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Posted to dev@aries.apache.org by zoe slattery <zo...@googlemail.com> on 2010/07/06 13:58:13 UTC
Re: Website navigation
Alasdair Nottingham wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm not sure of the right solution, but I do not like the current
> simplified navigation for the website. For me it feels more cumbersome
> when navigating around the site. It has added an extra level of
> indirection, and an extra mouse button click between the front page
> and the content. However I agree what we had before wasn't very good
> either. So I'm wondering if we could do something like:
>
> 1. Do something like the service mix website where the children of the
> top level headers are bunched up together more closely. I think we
> should be able to do this by updating the sites CSS.
> 2. Perhaps we could use a mouse over to expand the sub menu as you
> mouse over the heading in the navigation.
>
> I think the first option is probably easier than the second, but I do
> think we should look getting the key subpages back into the main
> navigation.
>
I spent some time yesterday experimenting with sub-menus in JavaScript
and with style sheets. I think that the easiest was to do it is with
modifications to the style sheet and some corresponding modifications to
the wiki layout. I didn't like the JavaScript solution was working out.
I have something on my local machine that creates a sub-menu on hover
which looks like this: http://imagebin.ca/view/qumyPsoz.html.
To get this I had to make changes to a local copy index.html - the next
step would be to make the corresponding changes on the the Wiki and
check that confluence exports something equivalent to my local changes.
If it does then I can check in a modified stylesheet that creates sub-menus.
wdyt?
Zoe
> What do you think?
> Thanks
> Alasdair
>
>
Re: Website navigation
Posted by zoe slattery <zo...@googlemail.com>.
Hi Graham
> Hi Zoe, I've just given it a go on IE, Firefox and Chrome. On IE and
> Chrome, the menus appeared expanded when I loaded, but a reload made
> them disappear.
I think that's expected, you will need to refresh the first time.
> They then did not expand on IE, so I think it's
> broken on IE (but no worse than previously).
>
That's problematic. Searching finds this:
"IE/Win only allows the :hover pseudo-class to be applied to a link — so
the li:hover that makes the sub-menus appear means nothing to IE"
The same article has some Javascript to work around the issue, a version
of this could be added to space.js. However, I don't have (MS don't
supply) a current version of IE for the Mac and so I have no way to test
it. I wouldn't know where to begin setting up a test website on Windows
either, ....any volunteers to fix for IE?
> One other observation is the submenu font is quite small. Would it be
> possible to make it a bit larger, and perhaps reduce the gaps between
> the menu items?
>
I can change the font easily - I'll look for ways to change line
spacing, shouldn't be hard :-)
Zoe
> Regards, Graham.
>
> On 7 July 2010 08:06, zoe slattery <zo...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> Lin Sun wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Zoe! What you are proposing is certainly much better than what
>>> we have now.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Thanks Lin.
>> The style sheet is checked in and appears to be working (thanks Guillaume)
>> as I intended it to. I still need to add sub-menus for most of the stuff on
>> the navigation pages and then refresh the navigation pages for the whole
>> site. While I'm doing that it would be really useful if people would just
>> check that this works with the browser that they are running - in particular
>> IE. Other comments/suggestions for improvement would also be welcome :-)
>>
>> Thanks, Zoe
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
Re: Website navigation
Posted by Graham Charters <gc...@gmail.com>.
Hi Zoe, I've just given it a go on IE, Firefox and Chrome. On IE and
Chrome, the menus appeared expanded when I loaded, but a reload made
them disappear. They then did not expand on IE, so I think it's
broken on IE (but no worse than previously).
One other observation is the submenu font is quite small. Would it be
possible to make it a bit larger, and perhaps reduce the gaps between
the menu items?
Regards, Graham.
On 7 July 2010 08:06, zoe slattery <zo...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Lin Sun wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Zoe! What you are proposing is certainly much better than what
>> we have now.
>>
>>
>>
>
> Thanks Lin.
> The style sheet is checked in and appears to be working (thanks Guillaume)
> as I intended it to. I still need to add sub-menus for most of the stuff on
> the navigation pages and then refresh the navigation pages for the whole
> site. While I'm doing that it would be really useful if people would just
> check that this works with the browser that they are running - in particular
> IE. Other comments/suggestions for improvement would also be welcome :-)
>
> Thanks, Zoe
>
>
>
Re: Website navigation
Posted by zoe slattery <zo...@googlemail.com>.
Lin Sun wrote:
> Thanks Zoe! What you are proposing is certainly much better than what
> we have now.
>
>
>
Thanks Lin.
The style sheet is checked in and appears to be working (thanks Guillaume) as I intended it to. I still need to add sub-menus for most of the stuff on the navigation pages and then refresh the navigation pages for the whole site. While I'm doing that it would be really useful if people would just check that this works with the browser that they are running - in particular IE. Other comments/suggestions for improvement would also be welcome :-)
Thanks, Zoe
Re: Website navigation
Posted by Lin Sun <li...@gmail.com>.
Thanks Zoe! What you are proposing is certainly much better than what
we have now.
Lin
On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 7:58 AM, zoe slattery
<zo...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Alasdair Nottingham wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm not sure of the right solution, but I do not like the current
>> simplified navigation for the website. For me it feels more cumbersome
>> when navigating around the site. It has added an extra level of
>> indirection, and an extra mouse button click between the front page
>> and the content. However I agree what we had before wasn't very good
>> either. So I'm wondering if we could do something like:
>>
>> 1. Do something like the service mix website where the children of the
>> top level headers are bunched up together more closely. I think we
>> should be able to do this by updating the sites CSS.
>> 2. Perhaps we could use a mouse over to expand the sub menu as you
>> mouse over the heading in the navigation.
>>
>> I think the first option is probably easier than the second, but I do
>> think we should look getting the key subpages back into the main
>> navigation.
>>
>
> I spent some time yesterday experimenting with sub-menus in JavaScript and
> with style sheets. I think that the easiest was to do it is with
> modifications to the style sheet and some corresponding modifications to the
> wiki layout. I didn't like the JavaScript solution was working out. I have
> something on my local machine that creates a sub-menu on hover which looks
> like this: http://imagebin.ca/view/qumyPsoz.html.
>
> To get this I had to make changes to a local copy index.html - the next step
> would be to make the corresponding changes on the the Wiki and check that
> confluence exports something equivalent to my local changes. If it does then
> I can check in a modified stylesheet that creates sub-menus.
>
> wdyt?
>
> Zoe
>
>
>
>
>> What do you think?
>> Thanks
>> Alasdair
>>
>>
>
>
Re: Website navigation
Posted by zoe slattery <zo...@googlemail.com>.
Lin Sun wrote:
> Hi Zoe
>
> Apologies if this has been mentioned by others.
>
> - I found if I click on something from the submenu say
> modules--blueprint, then the submenus are not available in the
> blueprint page (http://incubator.apache.org/aries/blueprint.html).
> In other words, the submenu is only avail in the landing page right
> now.
>
Yes - no-one mentioned it but I do know. I need to push the website out.
> - I found submenu for modules are a bit hard to navigate to, because
> there is a rather larger gap between modules and the submenu box for
> the modules. It is often that the submenu box disappears while my
> curser is in the gap, unless I move fast enough :)
>
Yes - I see what you mean. I'll see what I can do with this css that
would improve that. I'm beginning to wonder if the JavaScript option
wasn't better, I was put off by the squirrelly things I was having to do
to reach in and modify navigation pages. Maybe it's still worth
exploring. I could certainly accommodate Graham's request for a 'bleat'
in JavaScript more easliy than I could with css :-)
Z
> Lin
>
> On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 8:59 AM, Graham Charters <gc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Zoe,
>>
>> Looking good. I have just a few minor comments:
>>
>> 1. The text wrapping for "pointers to osgi specifications" causes the
>> words to overlap a little.
>> 2. If you move down the submenu items with the pointer over the main
>> menu, then it switches to the next main menu item (makes navigating
>> short submenu items like jpa very awkward).
>> 3. If you could get the submenu to play a bleating sound when they
>> come up, that would be so cool ;-)
>>
>> Thanks for doing this. I think it makes a really good impression when
>> people come to the project.
>>
>> Regards, Graham.
>>
>> On 8 July 2010 11:29, zoe slattery <zo...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Jeremy Hughes wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Zoe, I've looked at the changes. Would it be possible to have the
>>>> submenu appear to the right of the top level menu when there is a
>>>> 'mouseover' on the top level item. I think that would make it feel
>>>> smoother.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> OK - I had another look and changed my mind :-) I've checked in a modified
>>> css.
>>> Z
>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Jeremy
>>>>
>>>> On 6 July 2010 16:04, zoe slattery <zo...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> To get this I had to make changes to a local copy index.html - the next
>>>>>>> step
>>>>>>> would be to make the corresponding changes on the the Wiki and check
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> confluence exports something equivalent to my local changes. If it does
>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>> I can check in a modified stylesheet that creates sub-menus.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> wdyt?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Looks great to me. Go for it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Jeremy - I'll modify the navigation pages first, apologies in
>>>>> advance
>>>>> if the web site navigation looks odd for a day or so while the site
>>>>> catches
>>>>> up...
>>>>> Zoe
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Jeremy
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>
>
Re: Website navigation
Posted by zoe slattery <zo...@googlemail.com>.
Graham Charters wrote:
> On 8 July 2010 14:50, Lin Sun <li...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Zoe
>>
>> Apologies if this has been mentioned by others.
>>
>> - I found if I click on something from the submenu say
>> modules--blueprint, then the submenus are not available in the
>> blueprint page (http://incubator.apache.org/aries/blueprint.html).
>> In other words, the submenu is only avail in the landing page right
>> now.
>>
>> - I found submenu for modules are a bit hard to navigate to, because
>> there is a rather larger gap between modules and the submenu box for
>> the modules. It is often that the submenu box disappears while my
>> curser is in the gap, unless I move fast enough :)
>>
>>
>
> I think this is the same problem I described as 2 earlier. If you
> move down the submenu with your cursor at a position that overlaps
> with the main menu (i.e. the left side of the submenu), then the menu
> disappears. If you're further the right over the page, rather than
> the main menu, then it works fine.
>
Yes - you are right. I've moved the sub-menus 20px to the right, this
seems to me to make it better.
Z
>
>> Lin
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 8:59 AM, Graham Charters <gc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Zoe,
>>>
>>> Looking good. I have just a few minor comments:
>>>
>>> 1. The text wrapping for "pointers to osgi specifications" causes the
>>> words to overlap a little.
>>> 2. If you move down the submenu items with the pointer over the main
>>> menu, then it switches to the next main menu item (makes navigating
>>> short submenu items like jpa very awkward).
>>> 3. If you could get the submenu to play a bleating sound when they
>>> come up, that would be so cool ;-)
>>>
>>> Thanks for doing this. I think it makes a really good impression when
>>> people come to the project.
>>>
>>> Regards, Graham.
>>>
>>> On 8 July 2010 11:29, zoe slattery <zo...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Jeremy Hughes wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Zoe, I've looked at the changes. Would it be possible to have the
>>>>> submenu appear to the right of the top level menu when there is a
>>>>> 'mouseover' on the top level item. I think that would make it feel
>>>>> smoother.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> OK - I had another look and changed my mind :-) I've checked in a modified
>>>> css.
>>>> Z
>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Jeremy
>>>>>
>>>>> On 6 July 2010 16:04, zoe slattery <zo...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To get this I had to make changes to a local copy index.html - the next
>>>>>>>> step
>>>>>>>> would be to make the corresponding changes on the the Wiki and check
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> confluence exports something equivalent to my local changes. If it does
>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>> I can check in a modified stylesheet that creates sub-menus.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> wdyt?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Looks great to me. Go for it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks Jeremy - I'll modify the navigation pages first, apologies in
>>>>>> advance
>>>>>> if the web site navigation looks odd for a day or so while the site
>>>>>> catches
>>>>>> up...
>>>>>> Zoe
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Jeremy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>
>
Re: Website navigation
Posted by Lin Sun <li...@gmail.com>.
Hi Zoe
Yea it does look much better, thank you!
Lin
On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 3:44 PM, zoe slattery
<zo...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Hi Lin
>>>
>>> - I found submenu for modules are a bit hard to navigate to, because
>>> there is a rather larger gap between modules and the submenu box for
>>> the modules. It is often that the submenu box disappears while my
>>> curser is in the gap, unless I move fast enough :)
>>>
>>>
>
> I think what might have been happening was that the main navigation menu
> items we also a bit close together, so you might have been
> touching the top of the item below as you moved the mouse across, although
> your description of the problem is a bit different to Grahams I think it
> is the same thing. I've shifted the menu position and moved the main items
> further apart - it's not perfect but I think it's a slight improvement :-)
> Z
>
>
Re: Website navigation
Posted by zoe slattery <zo...@googlemail.com>.
Hi Lin
>>
>> - I found submenu for modules are a bit hard to navigate to, because
>> there is a rather larger gap between modules and the submenu box for
>> the modules. It is often that the submenu box disappears while my
>> curser is in the gap, unless I move fast enough :)
>>
>>
I think what might have been happening was that the main navigation menu
items we also a bit close together, so you might have been
touching the top of the item below as you moved the mouse across,
although your description of the problem is a bit different to Grahams I
think it
is the same thing. I've shifted the menu position and moved the main
items further apart - it's not perfect but I think it's a slight
improvement :-)
Z
Re: Website navigation
Posted by Graham Charters <gc...@gmail.com>.
On 8 July 2010 14:50, Lin Sun <li...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Zoe
>
> Apologies if this has been mentioned by others.
>
> - I found if I click on something from the submenu say
> modules--blueprint, then the submenus are not available in the
> blueprint page (http://incubator.apache.org/aries/blueprint.html).
> In other words, the submenu is only avail in the landing page right
> now.
>
> - I found submenu for modules are a bit hard to navigate to, because
> there is a rather larger gap between modules and the submenu box for
> the modules. It is often that the submenu box disappears while my
> curser is in the gap, unless I move fast enough :)
>
I think this is the same problem I described as 2 earlier. If you
move down the submenu with your cursor at a position that overlaps
with the main menu (i.e. the left side of the submenu), then the menu
disappears. If you're further the right over the page, rather than
the main menu, then it works fine.
> Lin
>
> On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 8:59 AM, Graham Charters <gc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Zoe,
>>
>> Looking good. I have just a few minor comments:
>>
>> 1. The text wrapping for "pointers to osgi specifications" causes the
>> words to overlap a little.
>> 2. If you move down the submenu items with the pointer over the main
>> menu, then it switches to the next main menu item (makes navigating
>> short submenu items like jpa very awkward).
>> 3. If you could get the submenu to play a bleating sound when they
>> come up, that would be so cool ;-)
>>
>> Thanks for doing this. I think it makes a really good impression when
>> people come to the project.
>>
>> Regards, Graham.
>>
>> On 8 July 2010 11:29, zoe slattery <zo...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>> Jeremy Hughes wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Zoe, I've looked at the changes. Would it be possible to have the
>>>> submenu appear to the right of the top level menu when there is a
>>>> 'mouseover' on the top level item. I think that would make it feel
>>>> smoother.
>>>>
>>>
>>> OK - I had another look and changed my mind :-) I've checked in a modified
>>> css.
>>> Z
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Jeremy
>>>>
>>>> On 6 July 2010 16:04, zoe slattery <zo...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To get this I had to make changes to a local copy index.html - the next
>>>>>>> step
>>>>>>> would be to make the corresponding changes on the the Wiki and check
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> confluence exports something equivalent to my local changes. If it does
>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>> I can check in a modified stylesheet that creates sub-menus.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> wdyt?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Looks great to me. Go for it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Jeremy - I'll modify the navigation pages first, apologies in
>>>>> advance
>>>>> if the web site navigation looks odd for a day or so while the site
>>>>> catches
>>>>> up...
>>>>> Zoe
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Jeremy
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: Website navigation
Posted by Lin Sun <li...@gmail.com>.
Hi Zoe
Apologies if this has been mentioned by others.
- I found if I click on something from the submenu say
modules--blueprint, then the submenus are not available in the
blueprint page (http://incubator.apache.org/aries/blueprint.html).
In other words, the submenu is only avail in the landing page right
now.
- I found submenu for modules are a bit hard to navigate to, because
there is a rather larger gap between modules and the submenu box for
the modules. It is often that the submenu box disappears while my
curser is in the gap, unless I move fast enough :)
Lin
On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 8:59 AM, Graham Charters <gc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Zoe,
>
> Looking good. I have just a few minor comments:
>
> 1. The text wrapping for "pointers to osgi specifications" causes the
> words to overlap a little.
> 2. If you move down the submenu items with the pointer over the main
> menu, then it switches to the next main menu item (makes navigating
> short submenu items like jpa very awkward).
> 3. If you could get the submenu to play a bleating sound when they
> come up, that would be so cool ;-)
>
> Thanks for doing this. I think it makes a really good impression when
> people come to the project.
>
> Regards, Graham.
>
> On 8 July 2010 11:29, zoe slattery <zo...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> Jeremy Hughes wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Zoe, I've looked at the changes. Would it be possible to have the
>>> submenu appear to the right of the top level menu when there is a
>>> 'mouseover' on the top level item. I think that would make it feel
>>> smoother.
>>>
>>
>> OK - I had another look and changed my mind :-) I've checked in a modified
>> css.
>> Z
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Jeremy
>>>
>>> On 6 July 2010 16:04, zoe slattery <zo...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To get this I had to make changes to a local copy index.html - the next
>>>>>> step
>>>>>> would be to make the corresponding changes on the the Wiki and check
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> confluence exports something equivalent to my local changes. If it does
>>>>>> then
>>>>>> I can check in a modified stylesheet that creates sub-menus.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> wdyt?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Looks great to me. Go for it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks Jeremy - I'll modify the navigation pages first, apologies in
>>>> advance
>>>> if the web site navigation looks odd for a day or so while the site
>>>> catches
>>>> up...
>>>> Zoe
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Jeremy
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
Re: Website navigation
Posted by Graham Charters <gc...@gmail.com>.
Hi Zoe,
Looking good. I have just a few minor comments:
1. The text wrapping for "pointers to osgi specifications" causes the
words to overlap a little.
2. If you move down the submenu items with the pointer over the main
menu, then it switches to the next main menu item (makes navigating
short submenu items like jpa very awkward).
3. If you could get the submenu to play a bleating sound when they
come up, that would be so cool ;-)
Thanks for doing this. I think it makes a really good impression when
people come to the project.
Regards, Graham.
On 8 July 2010 11:29, zoe slattery <zo...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Jeremy Hughes wrote:
>>
>> Hi Zoe, I've looked at the changes. Would it be possible to have the
>> submenu appear to the right of the top level menu when there is a
>> 'mouseover' on the top level item. I think that would make it feel
>> smoother.
>>
>
> OK - I had another look and changed my mind :-) I've checked in a modified
> css.
> Z
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Jeremy
>>
>> On 6 July 2010 16:04, zoe slattery <zo...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>>
>>>>> To get this I had to make changes to a local copy index.html - the next
>>>>> step
>>>>> would be to make the corresponding changes on the the Wiki and check
>>>>> that
>>>>> confluence exports something equivalent to my local changes. If it does
>>>>> then
>>>>> I can check in a modified stylesheet that creates sub-menus.
>>>>>
>>>>> wdyt?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Looks great to me. Go for it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks Jeremy - I'll modify the navigation pages first, apologies in
>>> advance
>>> if the web site navigation looks odd for a day or so while the site
>>> catches
>>> up...
>>> Zoe
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Jeremy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Re: Website navigation
Posted by zoe slattery <zo...@googlemail.com>.
Jeremy Hughes wrote:
> Hi Zoe, I've looked at the changes. Would it be possible to have the
> submenu appear to the right of the top level menu when there is a
> 'mouseover' on the top level item. I think that would make it feel
> smoother.
>
OK - I had another look and changed my mind :-) I've checked in a
modified css.
Z
> Cheers,
> Jeremy
>
> On 6 July 2010 16:04, zoe slattery <zo...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>>>> To get this I had to make changes to a local copy index.html - the next
>>>> step
>>>> would be to make the corresponding changes on the the Wiki and check that
>>>> confluence exports something equivalent to my local changes. If it does
>>>> then
>>>> I can check in a modified stylesheet that creates sub-menus.
>>>>
>>>> wdyt?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Looks great to me. Go for it.
>>>
>>>
>> Thanks Jeremy - I'll modify the navigation pages first, apologies in advance
>> if the web site navigation looks odd for a day or so while the site catches
>> up...
>> Zoe
>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Jeremy
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
Re: Website navigation
Posted by zoe slattery <zo...@googlemail.com>.
Jeremy Hughes wrote:
> Hi Zoe, I've looked at the changes. Would it be possible to have the
> submenu appear to the right of the top level menu when there is a
> 'mouseover' on the top level item. I think that would make it feel
> smoother.
>
It is possible - that's how I had it originally but I didn't think it
looked as good and it had the irritating side effect of covering the
main screen.
Z
> Cheers,
> Jeremy
>
> On 6 July 2010 16:04, zoe slattery <zo...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>>>> To get this I had to make changes to a local copy index.html - the next
>>>> step
>>>> would be to make the corresponding changes on the the Wiki and check that
>>>> confluence exports something equivalent to my local changes. If it does
>>>> then
>>>> I can check in a modified stylesheet that creates sub-menus.
>>>>
>>>> wdyt?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Looks great to me. Go for it.
>>>
>>>
>> Thanks Jeremy - I'll modify the navigation pages first, apologies in advance
>> if the web site navigation looks odd for a day or so while the site catches
>> up...
>> Zoe
>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Jeremy
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
Re: Website navigation
Posted by Jeremy Hughes <hu...@apache.org>.
Hi Zoe, I've looked at the changes. Would it be possible to have the
submenu appear to the right of the top level menu when there is a
'mouseover' on the top level item. I think that would make it feel
smoother.
Cheers,
Jeremy
On 6 July 2010 16:04, zoe slattery <zo...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>>>
>>> To get this I had to make changes to a local copy index.html - the next
>>> step
>>> would be to make the corresponding changes on the the Wiki and check that
>>> confluence exports something equivalent to my local changes. If it does
>>> then
>>> I can check in a modified stylesheet that creates sub-menus.
>>>
>>> wdyt?
>>>
>>
>> Looks great to me. Go for it.
>>
>
> Thanks Jeremy - I'll modify the navigation pages first, apologies in advance
> if the web site navigation looks odd for a day or so while the site catches
> up...
> Zoe
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Jeremy
>>
>>
>
>
Re: Website navigation
Posted by zoe slattery <zo...@googlemail.com>.
>>
>> To get this I had to make changes to a local copy index.html - the next step
>> would be to make the corresponding changes on the the Wiki and check that
>> confluence exports something equivalent to my local changes. If it does then
>> I can check in a modified stylesheet that creates sub-menus.
>>
>> wdyt?
>>
>
> Looks great to me. Go for it.
>
Thanks Jeremy - I'll modify the navigation pages first, apologies in
advance if the web site navigation looks odd for a day or so while the
site catches up...
Zoe
> Cheers,
> Jeremy
>
>
Re: Website navigation
Posted by Jeremy Hughes <hu...@apache.org>.
On 6 July 2010 12:58, zoe slattery <zo...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Alasdair Nottingham wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm not sure of the right solution, but I do not like the current
>> simplified navigation for the website. For me it feels more cumbersome
>> when navigating around the site. It has added an extra level of
>> indirection, and an extra mouse button click between the front page
>> and the content. However I agree what we had before wasn't very good
>> either. So I'm wondering if we could do something like:
>>
>> 1. Do something like the service mix website where the children of the
>> top level headers are bunched up together more closely. I think we
>> should be able to do this by updating the sites CSS.
>> 2. Perhaps we could use a mouse over to expand the sub menu as you
>> mouse over the heading in the navigation.
>>
>> I think the first option is probably easier than the second, but I do
>> think we should look getting the key subpages back into the main
>> navigation.
>>
>
> I spent some time yesterday experimenting with sub-menus in JavaScript and
> with style sheets. I think that the easiest was to do it is with
> modifications to the style sheet and some corresponding modifications to the
> wiki layout. I didn't like the JavaScript solution was working out. I have
> something on my local machine that creates a sub-menu on hover which looks
> like this: http://imagebin.ca/view/qumyPsoz.html.
>
> To get this I had to make changes to a local copy index.html - the next step
> would be to make the corresponding changes on the the Wiki and check that
> confluence exports something equivalent to my local changes. If it does then
> I can check in a modified stylesheet that creates sub-menus.
>
> wdyt?
Looks great to me. Go for it.
Cheers,
Jeremy