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Posted to dev@openoffice.apache.org by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> on 2012/05/25 02:58:23 UTC
"Some of our contributors" page
It would be great if we could keep this page up-to-date:
http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/people.html
New committers especially should add their info here. It is good
"first commit" you can make. You can do it via SVN or using the CMS
web interface:
http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/developer-faqs.html#how_do_i_edit_the_websites
Thanks!
-Rob
Re: "Some of our contributors" page
Posted by Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>.
On May 25, 2012, at 9:45 AM, Kay Schenk wrote:
> On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 7:29 PM, Kevin Grignon <ke...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On May 25, 2012, at 9:26 AM, Louis Suárez-Potts <lu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> On 2012-05-24, at 20:58 , Rob Weir wrote:
>>>
>>>> It would be great if we could keep this page up-to-date:
>>>>
>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/people.html
>>>>
>>>> New committers especially should add their info here. It is good
>>>> "first commit" you can make. You can do it via SVN or using the CMS
>>>> web interface:
>>>>
>>>>
>> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/developer-faqs.html#how_do_i_edit_the_websites
>>>
>>> Would it make sense to have a standardized reminder of things to do? I'm
>> thinking using Doodle or Taskforce (I think that requires money) or free
>> reminder services (even OpenProjity). The idea would be, say, to draft a
>> checklist of things to do and then be nagged by mindless electrons, all in
>> a good cause.
>>>
>>> -louis
>>>
>> Agreed. A get up and running package would be helpful. This package could
>> include task assignments.
>>
>> Kevin
>>
>>
> I don't know anything about TaskForce or Doodle, but, I'm wondering if
> having yet another app to deal with or place to go is really needed.
> Please, there is the added "maintenance" issue.
>
> Currently, even though the Project Planning area of the project wiki,
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Project+Planning
>
> lacks a bit of style I guess, I find it adequate and relatively easy to use
> for task assignments. In my opinion, we made good use of it in the 3.4
> roll-out, the release notes, and now, with enhancement to the download
> script.
>
> Some of my issues about what we have right now -- buildbot, and the pootle
> server come to mind -- involve even knowing about them and knowing how to
> use them.
>
> Given the number of folks already involved in this project, I think
> minimizing "stuff" we need to learn and where we need to go to get things
> done is important.
>
> So, I'm unconvinced that an additional mechanism would be an improvement to
> productivity.
I agree. Let's make sure that when we add tools, we add tools that are really needed.
We also need to remember that this is a volunteer project and communication about who is actively doing what needs to be co-ordinated and re-co-ordinated here on the ML.
What matters is what people actually do and not what they say what they will do.
As far as Infrastructure is concerned there are three kinds to consider (not a complete list)
(1) Systems like SVN, Confluence, JIRA, Bugzilla, CMS, Buildbots, and Pootle that the Apache Infrastructure supports.
(2) Systems like the MediaWiki and User Forums that the project must support with Infrastructure's help.
(3) Systems like the drupal based Extensions and Templates. Or large impact mirrors for Downloads where external parties like SourceForge are providing the service. There are still a few legacies that Oracle supports like the old Mercurial repos.
It's a blend and the AOO PPMC needs to have some view into these assets. Some require sysadmin support from the PPMC others don't.
For new services we need more than just the idea, we need the skill to administer the service. This expertise extends to security fixes. For example, if there are MediaWiki security issues then we need a volunteer to provide the upgrade.
Another example, the Apache blogs are currently unavailable for update because there is a security issue. Infrastructure is currently waiting for the Apache Roller project to make a supported fix - either a patch or a release.
Regards,
Dave
>
>
>
>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> -Rob
>>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> MzK
>
> "The reports of my death are greatly exaggerated."
> -- Mark Twain
Re: "Some of our contributors" page
Posted by Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>.
On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 7:29 PM, Kevin Grignon <ke...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>
> On May 25, 2012, at 9:26 AM, Louis Suárez-Potts <lu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> > On 2012-05-24, at 20:58 , Rob Weir wrote:
> >
> >> It would be great if we could keep this page up-to-date:
> >>
> >> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/people.html
> >>
> >> New committers especially should add their info here. It is good
> >> "first commit" you can make. You can do it via SVN or using the CMS
> >> web interface:
> >>
> >>
> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/developer-faqs.html#how_do_i_edit_the_websites
> >
> > Would it make sense to have a standardized reminder of things to do? I'm
> thinking using Doodle or Taskforce (I think that requires money) or free
> reminder services (even OpenProjity). The idea would be, say, to draft a
> checklist of things to do and then be nagged by mindless electrons, all in
> a good cause.
> >
> > -louis
> >
> Agreed. A get up and running package would be helpful. This package could
> include task assignments.
>
> Kevin
>
>
I don't know anything about TaskForce or Doodle, but, I'm wondering if
having yet another app to deal with or place to go is really needed.
Please, there is the added "maintenance" issue.
Currently, even though the Project Planning area of the project wiki,
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Project+Planning
lacks a bit of style I guess, I find it adequate and relatively easy to use
for task assignments. In my opinion, we made good use of it in the 3.4
roll-out, the release notes, and now, with enhancement to the download
script.
Some of my issues about what we have right now -- buildbot, and the pootle
server come to mind -- involve even knowing about them and knowing how to
use them.
Given the number of folks already involved in this project, I think
minimizing "stuff" we need to learn and where we need to go to get things
done is important.
So, I'm unconvinced that an additional mechanism would be an improvement to
productivity.
>
> >>
> >> Thanks!
> >>
> >> -Rob
> >
>
--
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
MzK
"The reports of my death are greatly exaggerated."
-- Mark Twain
Re: "Some of our contributors" page
Posted by Kevin Grignon <ke...@gmail.com>.
On May 25, 2012, at 9:26 AM, Louis Suárez-Potts <lu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
> On 2012-05-24, at 20:58 , Rob Weir wrote:
>
>> It would be great if we could keep this page up-to-date:
>>
>> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/people.html
>>
>> New committers especially should add their info here. It is good
>> "first commit" you can make. You can do it via SVN or using the CMS
>> web interface:
>>
>> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/developer-faqs.html#how_do_i_edit_the_websites
>
> Would it make sense to have a standardized reminder of things to do? I'm thinking using Doodle or Taskforce (I think that requires money) or free reminder services (even OpenProjity). The idea would be, say, to draft a checklist of things to do and then be nagged by mindless electrons, all in a good cause.
>
> -louis
>
Agreed. A get up and running package would be helpful. This package could include task assignments.
Kevin
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> -Rob
>
Re: "Some of our contributors" page
Posted by Louis Suárez-Potts <lu...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
On 2012-05-24, at 20:58 , Rob Weir wrote:
> It would be great if we could keep this page up-to-date:
>
> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/people.html
>
> New committers especially should add their info here. It is good
> "first commit" you can make. You can do it via SVN or using the CMS
> web interface:
>
> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/developer-faqs.html#how_do_i_edit_the_websites
Would it make sense to have a standardized reminder of things to do? I'm thinking using Doodle or Taskforce (I think that requires money) or free reminder services (even OpenProjity). The idea would be, say, to draft a checklist of things to do and then be nagged by mindless electrons, all in a good cause.
-louis
>
> Thanks!
>
> -Rob