RE: [bckoontz@qwestinternet.net: FW: The Power Of The Internet..]

[Matt Kettler <mk...@comcast.net>]

At 12:46 AM 7/13/04 -0400, Greg D - N V Host wrote:
>in my bayes filter with Plesk interface, which only shows who it's to and 
>the subject.  I marked this message as
>spam, because the subject looked to odd.  Anyone else having problems like 
>this with this list?  I have been on many
>developer lists before, but this is the first one that does not have a 
>consistent "Subject line" to advise of what list
>it belongs to.  eg... [spamassassin-users list]  subject here.
>
>Since this is a spam help list, and this is a problem, is there any 
>consideration to use a mailing list software that
>you can specify a "list subject" for to make this easier?
>
>I'm pretty surprised I haven't seen anyone else giving feedback on this.

RTFA (read the fine Archives)

This was debated, and voted on by the list subscribers shortly after the 
list converted to apache.org. Majority won.

further debate on the issue likely to be unwelcome, as it's unlikely to 
raise any points that were not raised in the original debate which 
consisted of hundreds of messages. If you've read the archives of it all 
and still feel you have a significant point not previously raised, it might 
be worth posting, but this is doubtful.

software with lousy user interfaces does not constitute a significant 
point, IMO.

If you need to hack subject lines, do it locally via procmail or some such 
thing. It's pretty simple to do and the list itself adds plenty of 
identifiable message headers that any worthwhile tool can filter on and 
trigger a subject-line tag insertion. 

RE: [bckoontz@qwestinternet.net: FW: The Power Of The Internet..]

[Nancy McGough <nm...@ii.deflexion.com>]

On 13 Jul 2004 Matt Kettler (mkettler_sa@comcast.net) wrote:
>> this with this list?  I have been on many
>> developer lists before, but this is the first one that does not have a 
>> consistent "Subject line" to advise of what list
>> it belongs to.  eg... [spamassassin-users list]  subject here.
>
> If you need to hack subject lines, do it locally via procmail or some such 
> thing. It's pretty simple to do and the list itself adds plenty of 
> identifiable message headers that any worthwhile tool can filter on and 
> trigger a subject-line tag insertion.


If you want to do this with procmail, I discuss this on my 
Procmail Quick Start, which is here:

  <http://www.ii.com/internet/robots/procmail/qs/>

An example of munging headers is in the Spamassassin section, 
which is here:

  <http://www.ii.com/internet/robots/procmail/qs/#SA>

But, what I do to read most mailing lists these days is just use 
the Gmane NNTP server. That way I don't have to do any filtering 
or header munging and it all just works. This list is available 
via NNTP here:

  <nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.mail.spam.spamassassin.general>

or via the web here:

  <http://news.gmane.org/gmane.mail.spam.spamassassin.general>

Hope this helps,
Nancy
Infinite Ink
www.ii.com