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Posted to dev@ofbiz.apache.org by Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com> on 2008/07/03 21:40:22 UTC
XUI is dead, long life to ARIA
Hi,
FYI, we agreed today with Luan, that he will try to increase ARIA community size before being a candidate for poddling. He will then
come back to us and we will then reallly begin to help them to get through the incubator process.
Jacques
From: "Jacques Le Roux" <ja...@les7arts.com>
> Typo
>> Should I ask for a Sponsor somewhere ? Is somebody interested to me a mentor for ARIA ?
> is
>> Should I ask for a Sponsor somewhere ? Is somebody interested to *be* a mentor for ARIA ?
>
> Jacques
>
> From: "Jacques Le Roux" <ja...@les7arts.com>
>> Hi PMC mermbers,
>>
>> You certainly know that ARIA will replace XUI. And Luan O'Carrol is willing to make ARIA a candidate for a TLP project through
>> Incubator.
>> I would like to help him on this way and I wonder if you may give me some help too :o)
>>
>> I already gave these links
>>> Asking officialy on incubator ML general@incubator.apache.org should help. Mentionning XUI (now ARIA) is used by OFBiz should
>>> help
>>> also. You may be interested by OFBiz experience : http://incubator.apache.org/projects/ofbiz.html notably
>>> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/ofbiz.html. But the main resource to begin with is certainly
>>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/index.html. This one is important too :
>>> http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html
>>
>> Should I ask for a Sponsor somewhere ? Is somebody interested to me a mentor for ARIA ?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>> From: "Jacques Le Roux" <ja...@les7arts.com>
>>> Hi Luan,
>>>
>>> I was pretty busy these last days, and I must confess I did nothing yet but asking some help on Dev ML. I will now ask more
>>> formerly
>>> on the private PMC list. If I get any responses, I will begin to dot it alone...
>>>
>>> Asking officialy on incubator ML general@incubator.apache.org should help. Mentionning XUI (now ARIA) is used by OFBiz should
>>> help
>>> also. You may be interested by OFBiz experience : http://incubator.apache.org/projects/ofbiz.html notably
>>> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/ofbiz.html. But the main resource to begin with is certainly
>>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/index.html. This one is important too :
>>> http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html
>>>
>>> Spring RCP make sense indeed, we will see what happens...
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Jacques
>>>
>>> From: "Luan O'Carroll" <lu...@gmail.com>
>>>> Hi Jacques,
>>>>
>>>> Is there anything I can do to support this or lobby in any way?
>>>>
>>>> The Spring RCP community is also interested in the project, although
>>>> they are quite slow to react. I don't know if they would be willing to
>>>> come on board an Apache project, although they do use lots of Apache
>>>> libraries.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> Luan
>>>>
>>>> 2008/6/27 Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I want to let you know that the XUI project is officially dead. XUI was
>>>>> licenced under the XPL licence which was a derivation from MPL, hence
>>>>> compatible with our licence. There is a new project which aims to replace
>>>>> XUI : ARIA http://sourceforge.net/projects/aria/. It was created by one of
>>>>> the XUI founders : Luan O'Carrol. Unfortunately there was a couple of issue
>>>>>
>>>>> Bad news
>>>>> 1. The licence has changed, it's now under a GPL/LGPL license (on
>>>>> SourceForge it's even less clear)
>>>>> 2. There will be some tools to migrate from XUI to ARIA but it is not
>>>>> directly compatible.
>>>>>
>>>>> Good news
>>>>> 1. As I have exchanged a bit with Luan before when working on the POS, I
>>>>> asked him about the licence. He said it should no be a big deal as his
>>>>> intention is to open ARIA more than XUI was. So in a 1st time he will change
>>>>> the licence to MPL (or MP like) has it was before for XUI.
>>>>> 2. I'm sure the ARIA team will help us if ever we need to migrate from XUI
>>>>> to ARIA.
>>>>>
>>>>> We discussed a bit more and it happens that Luan would like to have ARIA
>>>>> under the ASL2. And even that he would like to see ARIA becomes an Apache
>>>>> Project. I explained him roughly the procedure (Candidate, Champion,
>>>>> Sponsor, Mentor, Incubator, TLP). I think I qualify for being a Mentor. But
>>>>> I will need some help from our community (OFBiz) to find the Champion,
>>>>> Sponsor and at least another Mentor. I think that OFBiz can't be a Sponsor.
>>>>> Else ARIA will later (when hopefully out of incubator) become an OFBiz
>>>>> sub-project which makes not a lot of sense in my opinion. Note that Luan has
>>>>> previously contributed to the Batik Apache Project.
>>>>>
>>>>> Note also that there is no hurry on our side. We now use XUI 3.2rc2B without
>>>>> any known issues. But I think it's better to know that ARIA will be there
>>>>> for our future with the POS component.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for your attention
>>>>>
>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: XUI is dead, long life to ARIA
Posted by BJ Freeman <bj...@free-man.net>.
in doing research for my project I was tracing down XUI.
I found this thread but also see ARIA as not had much activity.
the project is to have a swing UI that will develop Widget code with a
WYSIWYG. it will generate ofbiz specific, java/groovy as well.
This is ofbiz Framework Specific though I will leave hooks for future
expansion.
So is there a library that would work in ofbiz?
Jacques Le Roux sent the following on 7/3/2008 2:58 PM:
> Thanks for advice Jacopo,
>
> I will relay
>
> Jacques
>
> From: "Jacopo Cappellato" <ja...@gmail.com>
>> In the meantime, they should really start to do the license switch to
>> ASL2.0
>> That will simplify everything... and it is much easier to do now that
>> the community is still small.
>>
>> Jacopo
>>
>> On Jul 3, 2008, at 9:40 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> FYI, we agreed today with Luan, that he will try to increase ARIA
>>> community size before being a candidate for poddling. He will then
>>> come back to us and we will then reallly begin to help them to get
>>> through the incubator process.
>>>
>>> Jacques
>>>
>>> From: "Jacques Le Roux" <ja...@les7arts.com>
>>>> Typo
>>>>> Should I ask for a Sponsor somewhere ? Is somebody interested to
>>>>> me a mentor for ARIA ?
>>>> is
>>>>> Should I ask for a Sponsor somewhere ? Is somebody interested to
>>>>> *be* a mentor for ARIA ?
>>>>
>>>> Jacques
>>>>
>>>> From: "Jacques Le Roux" <ja...@les7arts.com>
>>>>> Hi PMC mermbers,
>>>>>
>>>>> You certainly know that ARIA will replace XUI. And Luan O'Carrol
>>>>> is willing to make ARIA a candidate for a TLP project through
>>>>> Incubator.
>>>>> I would like to help him on this way and I wonder if you may give
>>>>> me some help too :o)
>>>>>
>>>>> I already gave these links
>>>>>> Asking officialy on incubator ML general@incubator.apache.org
>>>>>> should help. Mentionning XUI (now ARIA) is used by OFBiz should
>>>>>> help
>>>>>> also. You may be interested by OFBiz experience :
>>>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/ofbiz.html notably
>>>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/ofbiz.html. But the main
>>>>>> resource to begin with is certainly
>>>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/index.html. This one is
>>>>>> important too :
>>>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Should I ask for a Sponsor somewhere ? Is somebody interested to
>>>>> me a mentor for ARIA ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>
>>>>> From: "Jacques Le Roux" <ja...@les7arts.com>
>>>>>> Hi Luan,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was pretty busy these last days, and I must confess I did
>>>>>> nothing yet but asking some help on Dev ML. I will now ask more
>>>>>> formerly
>>>>>> on the private PMC list. If I get any responses, I will begin to
>>>>>> dot it alone...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Asking officialy on incubator ML general@incubator.apache.org
>>>>>> should help. Mentionning XUI (now ARIA) is used by OFBiz should
>>>>>> help
>>>>>> also. You may be interested by OFBiz experience :
>>>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/ofbiz.html notably
>>>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/ofbiz.html. But the main
>>>>>> resource to begin with is certainly
>>>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/index.html. This one is
>>>>>> important too :
>>>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Spring RCP make sense indeed, we will see what happens...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: "Luan O'Carroll" <lu...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> Hi Jacques,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is there anything I can do to support this or lobby in any way?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Spring RCP community is also interested in the project,
>>>>>>> although
>>>>>>> they are quite slow to react. I don't know if they would be
>>>>>>> willing to
>>>>>>> come on board an Apache project, although they do use lots of
>>>>>>> Apache
>>>>>>> libraries.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Luan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2008/6/27 Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>:
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I want to let you know that the XUI project is officially dead.
>>>>>>>> XUI was
>>>>>>>> licenced under the XPL licence which was a derivation from MPL,
>>>>>>>> hence
>>>>>>>> compatible with our licence. There is a new project which aims
>>>>>>>> to replace
>>>>>>>> XUI : ARIA http://sourceforge.net/projects/aria/. It was
>>>>>>>> created by one of
>>>>>>>> the XUI founders : Luan O'Carrol. Unfortunately there was a
>>>>>>>> couple of issue
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bad news
>>>>>>>> 1. The licence has changed, it's now under a GPL/LGPL license (on
>>>>>>>> SourceForge it's even less clear)
>>>>>>>> 2. There will be some tools to migrate from XUI to ARIA but it
>>>>>>>> is not
>>>>>>>> directly compatible.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Good news
>>>>>>>> 1. As I have exchanged a bit with Luan before when working on
>>>>>>>> the POS, I
>>>>>>>> asked him about the licence. He said it should no be a big deal
>>>>>>>> as his
>>>>>>>> intention is to open ARIA more than XUI was. So in a 1st time
>>>>>>>> he will change
>>>>>>>> the licence to MPL (or MP like) has it was before for XUI.
>>>>>>>> 2. I'm sure the ARIA team will help us if ever we need to
>>>>>>>> migrate from XUI
>>>>>>>> to ARIA.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We discussed a bit more and it happens that Luan would like to
>>>>>>>> have ARIA
>>>>>>>> under the ASL2. And even that he would like to see ARIA becomes
>>>>>>>> an Apache
>>>>>>>> Project. I explained him roughly the procedure (Candidate,
>>>>>>>> Champion,
>>>>>>>> Sponsor, Mentor, Incubator, TLP). I think I qualify for being a
>>>>>>>> Mentor. But
>>>>>>>> I will need some help from our community (OFBiz) to find the
>>>>>>>> Champion,
>>>>>>>> Sponsor and at least another Mentor. I think that OFBiz can't
>>>>>>>> be a Sponsor.
>>>>>>>> Else ARIA will later (when hopefully out of incubator) become
>>>>>>>> an OFBiz
>>>>>>>> sub-project which makes not a lot of sense in my opinion. Note
>>>>>>>> that Luan has
>>>>>>>> previously contributed to the Batik Apache Project.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Note also that there is no hurry on our side. We now use XUI
>>>>>>>> 3.2rc2B without
>>>>>>>> any known issues. But I think it's better to know that ARIA
>>>>>>>> will be there
>>>>>>>> for our future with the POS component.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks for your attention
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>
Re: XUI is dead, long life to ARIA
Posted by Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>.
Thanks for advice Jacopo,
I will relay
Jacques
From: "Jacopo Cappellato" <ja...@gmail.com>
> In the meantime, they should really start to do the license switch to
> ASL2.0
> That will simplify everything... and it is much easier to do now that
> the community is still small.
>
> Jacopo
>
> On Jul 3, 2008, at 9:40 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> FYI, we agreed today with Luan, that he will try to increase ARIA
>> community size before being a candidate for poddling. He will then
>> come back to us and we will then reallly begin to help them to get
>> through the incubator process.
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>> From: "Jacques Le Roux" <ja...@les7arts.com>
>>> Typo
>>>> Should I ask for a Sponsor somewhere ? Is somebody interested to
>>>> me a mentor for ARIA ?
>>> is
>>>> Should I ask for a Sponsor somewhere ? Is somebody interested to
>>>> *be* a mentor for ARIA ?
>>>
>>> Jacques
>>>
>>> From: "Jacques Le Roux" <ja...@les7arts.com>
>>>> Hi PMC mermbers,
>>>>
>>>> You certainly know that ARIA will replace XUI. And Luan O'Carrol
>>>> is willing to make ARIA a candidate for a TLP project through
>>>> Incubator.
>>>> I would like to help him on this way and I wonder if you may give
>>>> me some help too :o)
>>>>
>>>> I already gave these links
>>>>> Asking officialy on incubator ML general@incubator.apache.org
>>>>> should help. Mentionning XUI (now ARIA) is used by OFBiz should
>>>>> help
>>>>> also. You may be interested by OFBiz experience : http://incubator.apache.org/projects/ofbiz.html
>>>>> notably
>>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/ofbiz.html. But the main
>>>>> resource to begin with is certainly
>>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/index.html. This one is
>>>>> important too :
>>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html
>>>>
>>>> Should I ask for a Sponsor somewhere ? Is somebody interested to
>>>> me a mentor for ARIA ?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Jacques
>>>>
>>>> From: "Jacques Le Roux" <ja...@les7arts.com>
>>>>> Hi Luan,
>>>>>
>>>>> I was pretty busy these last days, and I must confess I did
>>>>> nothing yet but asking some help on Dev ML. I will now ask more
>>>>> formerly
>>>>> on the private PMC list. If I get any responses, I will begin to
>>>>> dot it alone...
>>>>>
>>>>> Asking officialy on incubator ML general@incubator.apache.org
>>>>> should help. Mentionning XUI (now ARIA) is used by OFBiz should
>>>>> help
>>>>> also. You may be interested by OFBiz experience : http://incubator.apache.org/projects/ofbiz.html
>>>>> notably
>>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/ofbiz.html. But the main
>>>>> resource to begin with is certainly
>>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/index.html. This one is
>>>>> important too :
>>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Spring RCP make sense indeed, we will see what happens...
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>
>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>
>>>>> From: "Luan O'Carroll" <lu...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> Hi Jacques,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there anything I can do to support this or lobby in any way?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Spring RCP community is also interested in the project,
>>>>>> although
>>>>>> they are quite slow to react. I don't know if they would be
>>>>>> willing to
>>>>>> come on board an Apache project, although they do use lots of
>>>>>> Apache
>>>>>> libraries.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Luan
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2008/6/27 Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>:
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I want to let you know that the XUI project is officially dead.
>>>>>>> XUI was
>>>>>>> licenced under the XPL licence which was a derivation from MPL,
>>>>>>> hence
>>>>>>> compatible with our licence. There is a new project which aims
>>>>>>> to replace
>>>>>>> XUI : ARIA http://sourceforge.net/projects/aria/. It was
>>>>>>> created by one of
>>>>>>> the XUI founders : Luan O'Carrol. Unfortunately there was a
>>>>>>> couple of issue
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bad news
>>>>>>> 1. The licence has changed, it's now under a GPL/LGPL license (on
>>>>>>> SourceForge it's even less clear)
>>>>>>> 2. There will be some tools to migrate from XUI to ARIA but it
>>>>>>> is not
>>>>>>> directly compatible.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Good news
>>>>>>> 1. As I have exchanged a bit with Luan before when working on
>>>>>>> the POS, I
>>>>>>> asked him about the licence. He said it should no be a big deal
>>>>>>> as his
>>>>>>> intention is to open ARIA more than XUI was. So in a 1st time
>>>>>>> he will change
>>>>>>> the licence to MPL (or MP like) has it was before for XUI.
>>>>>>> 2. I'm sure the ARIA team will help us if ever we need to
>>>>>>> migrate from XUI
>>>>>>> to ARIA.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We discussed a bit more and it happens that Luan would like to
>>>>>>> have ARIA
>>>>>>> under the ASL2. And even that he would like to see ARIA becomes
>>>>>>> an Apache
>>>>>>> Project. I explained him roughly the procedure (Candidate,
>>>>>>> Champion,
>>>>>>> Sponsor, Mentor, Incubator, TLP). I think I qualify for being a
>>>>>>> Mentor. But
>>>>>>> I will need some help from our community (OFBiz) to find the
>>>>>>> Champion,
>>>>>>> Sponsor and at least another Mentor. I think that OFBiz can't
>>>>>>> be a Sponsor.
>>>>>>> Else ARIA will later (when hopefully out of incubator) become
>>>>>>> an OFBiz
>>>>>>> sub-project which makes not a lot of sense in my opinion. Note
>>>>>>> that Luan has
>>>>>>> previously contributed to the Batik Apache Project.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Note also that there is no hurry on our side. We now use XUI
>>>>>>> 3.2rc2B without
>>>>>>> any known issues. But I think it's better to know that ARIA
>>>>>>> will be there
>>>>>>> for our future with the POS component.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for your attention
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
Re: XUI is dead, long life to ARIA
Posted by Jacopo Cappellato <ja...@gmail.com>.
In the meantime, they should really start to do the license switch to
ASL2.0
That will simplify everything... and it is much easier to do now that
the community is still small.
Jacopo
On Jul 3, 2008, at 9:40 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
> Hi,
>
> FYI, we agreed today with Luan, that he will try to increase ARIA
> community size before being a candidate for poddling. He will then
> come back to us and we will then reallly begin to help them to get
> through the incubator process.
>
> Jacques
>
> From: "Jacques Le Roux" <ja...@les7arts.com>
>> Typo
>>> Should I ask for a Sponsor somewhere ? Is somebody interested to
>>> me a mentor for ARIA ?
>> is
>>> Should I ask for a Sponsor somewhere ? Is somebody interested to
>>> *be* a mentor for ARIA ?
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>> From: "Jacques Le Roux" <ja...@les7arts.com>
>>> Hi PMC mermbers,
>>>
>>> You certainly know that ARIA will replace XUI. And Luan O'Carrol
>>> is willing to make ARIA a candidate for a TLP project through
>>> Incubator.
>>> I would like to help him on this way and I wonder if you may give
>>> me some help too :o)
>>>
>>> I already gave these links
>>>> Asking officialy on incubator ML general@incubator.apache.org
>>>> should help. Mentionning XUI (now ARIA) is used by OFBiz should
>>>> help
>>>> also. You may be interested by OFBiz experience : http://incubator.apache.org/projects/ofbiz.html
>>>> notably
>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/ofbiz.html. But the main
>>>> resource to begin with is certainly
>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/index.html. This one is
>>>> important too :
>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html
>>>
>>> Should I ask for a Sponsor somewhere ? Is somebody interested to
>>> me a mentor for ARIA ?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Jacques
>>>
>>> From: "Jacques Le Roux" <ja...@les7arts.com>
>>>> Hi Luan,
>>>>
>>>> I was pretty busy these last days, and I must confess I did
>>>> nothing yet but asking some help on Dev ML. I will now ask more
>>>> formerly
>>>> on the private PMC list. If I get any responses, I will begin to
>>>> dot it alone...
>>>>
>>>> Asking officialy on incubator ML general@incubator.apache.org
>>>> should help. Mentionning XUI (now ARIA) is used by OFBiz should
>>>> help
>>>> also. You may be interested by OFBiz experience : http://incubator.apache.org/projects/ofbiz.html
>>>> notably
>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/ofbiz.html. But the main
>>>> resource to begin with is certainly
>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/index.html. This one is
>>>> important too :
>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html
>>>>
>>>> Spring RCP make sense indeed, we will see what happens...
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>>
>>>> Jacques
>>>>
>>>> From: "Luan O'Carroll" <lu...@gmail.com>
>>>>> Hi Jacques,
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there anything I can do to support this or lobby in any way?
>>>>>
>>>>> The Spring RCP community is also interested in the project,
>>>>> although
>>>>> they are quite slow to react. I don't know if they would be
>>>>> willing to
>>>>> come on board an Apache project, although they do use lots of
>>>>> Apache
>>>>> libraries.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>>
>>>>> Luan
>>>>>
>>>>> 2008/6/27 Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I want to let you know that the XUI project is officially dead.
>>>>>> XUI was
>>>>>> licenced under the XPL licence which was a derivation from MPL,
>>>>>> hence
>>>>>> compatible with our licence. There is a new project which aims
>>>>>> to replace
>>>>>> XUI : ARIA http://sourceforge.net/projects/aria/. It was
>>>>>> created by one of
>>>>>> the XUI founders : Luan O'Carrol. Unfortunately there was a
>>>>>> couple of issue
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bad news
>>>>>> 1. The licence has changed, it's now under a GPL/LGPL license (on
>>>>>> SourceForge it's even less clear)
>>>>>> 2. There will be some tools to migrate from XUI to ARIA but it
>>>>>> is not
>>>>>> directly compatible.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good news
>>>>>> 1. As I have exchanged a bit with Luan before when working on
>>>>>> the POS, I
>>>>>> asked him about the licence. He said it should no be a big deal
>>>>>> as his
>>>>>> intention is to open ARIA more than XUI was. So in a 1st time
>>>>>> he will change
>>>>>> the licence to MPL (or MP like) has it was before for XUI.
>>>>>> 2. I'm sure the ARIA team will help us if ever we need to
>>>>>> migrate from XUI
>>>>>> to ARIA.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We discussed a bit more and it happens that Luan would like to
>>>>>> have ARIA
>>>>>> under the ASL2. And even that he would like to see ARIA becomes
>>>>>> an Apache
>>>>>> Project. I explained him roughly the procedure (Candidate,
>>>>>> Champion,
>>>>>> Sponsor, Mentor, Incubator, TLP). I think I qualify for being a
>>>>>> Mentor. But
>>>>>> I will need some help from our community (OFBiz) to find the
>>>>>> Champion,
>>>>>> Sponsor and at least another Mentor. I think that OFBiz can't
>>>>>> be a Sponsor.
>>>>>> Else ARIA will later (when hopefully out of incubator) become
>>>>>> an OFBiz
>>>>>> sub-project which makes not a lot of sense in my opinion. Note
>>>>>> that Luan has
>>>>>> previously contributed to the Batik Apache Project.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Note also that there is no hurry on our side. We now use XUI
>>>>>> 3.2rc2B without
>>>>>> any known issues. But I think it's better to know that ARIA
>>>>>> will be there
>>>>>> for our future with the POS component.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for your attention
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>