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Posted to users@openoffice.apache.org by don wonnell <do...@yahoo.com.INVALID> on 2016/07/16 17:51:31 UTC
Helping More People Access Open Office
It helped when I found out we need to contact APACHE, but this was hard to find out when OO 3.1 stopped working. Only saw it on Wikipedia after several weeks of no service with 3.1.
More communicating and marketing will help many people, and of course help your firm.
Don WonnellSylvania OH
RE: Helping More People Access Open Office
Posted by "Dennis E. Hamilton" <de...@acm.org>.
Dave hasn't spoken up so ...
I interpret his remark as being a casual observation about the ASF (and its AOO project) not being a for-profit, commercial operation.
Going all legalese about this is probably not useful. I doubt that the intended audience is confused.
There are different kinds of non-profits, by the way, and there is a wide range of different activities. (E.g., the ASF is neither trade association nor standards-development consortium.)
The ASF has declared itself as serving the public interest by providing free software as a public good. In doing so, the ASF puts meticulous attention on the intellectual-property cleanliness of the software released under its name. The also has standards of good open-source citizenship that it applies to the conduct of its projects. These are more strenuous conditions than the literal requirements for compliance with the Apache License. A relevant case for Apache OpenOffice is that projects incorporate license-compatible software from third parties only when it is explicitly allowed by someone with the authority to do so.
That is worth discussing on the main thrust of this message thread and related ones that have arisen lately.
- Dennis
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> On 19/07/2016 01:34, Dave Fisher wrote:
> > The Apache Software Foundation is a 501(c3) non-profit corporation
> registered in Delaware, USA.
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> That doesn't explain why Dave Barton said: "Just to make you aware the
> Apache Software Foundation (ASF) is not a firm, business or
> corporation."
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> jonathon
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Re: Helping More People Access Open Office
Posted by Dave <no...@tasit.net>.
-------- Original Message --------
From: toki <to...@gmail.com>
To: users@openoffice.apache.org
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 10:01:28 +0000
> On 19/07/2016 01:34, Dave Fisher wrote:
>> The Apache Software Foundation is a 501(c3) non-profit corporation registered in Delaware, USA.
>
> That doesn't explain why Dave Barton said: "Just to make you aware the
> Apache Software Foundation (ASF) is not a firm, business or corporation."
>
> jonathon
Jonathon,
Do you have nothing better to do with your life than play semantics, by
nit-picking at slightly inaccurate terminology?
Even though I don't have to explain myself to you and most other list
subscribers will have readily understood my original meaning, I will
make one last statement in this thread.
As an AOO committer since day one, I am fully aware that the ASF is a
501(c3) non-profit corporation registered in Delaware, USA.
The original (non-subscribed) poster said "More communicating and
marketing will help many people, and of course help your _*firm*_."
Which suggested to me that they did not appreciate they were
communicating with a FOSS project not a commercial operation. While that
tiny part of my answer was (technically) inaccurate, try to comprehend
the message I was attempting to convey to the OP.
Dave
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Re: Helping More People Access Open Office
Posted by toki <to...@gmail.com>.
On 19/07/2016 01:34, Dave Fisher wrote:
> The Apache Software Foundation is a 501(c3) non-profit corporation registered in Delaware, USA.
That doesn't explain why Dave Barton said: "Just to make you aware the
Apache Software Foundation (ASF) is not a firm, business or corporation."
jonathon
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Re: Helping More People Access Open Office
Posted by Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>.
The Apache Software Foundation is a 501(c3) non-profit corporation registered in Delaware, USA.
http://apache.org/foundation/records/
Regards,
Dave
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> On Jul 18, 2016, at 4:31 PM, toki <to...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> On 16/07/2016 18:47, Dave Barton wrote:
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>> Just to make you aware the Apache Software Foundation (ASF) is not a firm, business or corporation.
>
> When were the articles of incorporation for the Apache Software
> Foundation cancelled?
> Who cancelled them?
> Why were they cancelled?
>
> jonathon
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Re: Helping More People Access Open Office
Posted by toki <to...@gmail.com>.
On 16/07/2016 18:47, Dave Barton wrote:
> Just to make you aware the Apache Software Foundation (ASF) is not a firm, business or corporation.
When were the articles of incorporation for the Apache Software
Foundation cancelled?
Who cancelled them?
Why were they cancelled?
jonathon
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Re: Helping More People Access Open Office
Posted by Dave Barton <db...@tasit.net>.
-------- Original Message --------
From: don wonnell <do...@yahoo.com>
To: users@openoffice.apache.org <us...@openoffice.apache.org>
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2016 17:51:31 +0000 (UTC)
> It helped when I found out we need to contact APACHE, but this was > hard to find out when OO 3.1 stopped working. Only saw it on >
Wikipedia after several weeks of no service with 3.1. > > More
communicating and marketing will help many people, and of course > help
your firm.
> Don WonnellSylvania OH
Hi Don,
Just to make you aware the Apache Software Foundation (ASF) is not a
firm, business or corporation.
Apache OpenOffice is one of the many ASF FOSS (Free Open Source
Software) projects. See: https://projects.apache.org/projects.html
As such there is no "marketing" in the sense you mean.
Regarding communication, for a working program the in-built "Help"
facility provides full communication information, otherwise a web search
for "OpenOffice Help" the first hit returned by Yahoo and most other
search engines links to: http://www.openoffice.org/support/
Version 3.1 is very old (released before Apache OpenOffice was
established) and has known security vulnerabilities. If you haven't
already done so, an upgrade to version 4.1.2 would be advisable.
Note: I am just a user of the software and do not write for or on behalf
of the ASF or any of it's projects.
Regards
Dave
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