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Posted to users@cloudstack.apache.org by Nikolaos Tsinganos <ni...@dataways.gr.INVALID> on 2022/06/08 14:54:54 UTC

lift-and-shift tools/methods

Hi everybody, 

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Are there any recommended  “lilft-and-shift to cloudstack” tools/methods? … or maybe someone that wants to share his/her experience for an on-premises VMware to  Cloudstack migration? (Cloud migration).

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Regards,

Nikolaos

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Re: lift-and-shift tools/methods

Posted by Daan Hoogland <da...@gmail.com>.
Can´t say Iḿ an expert Nikolaos, but how about

   1.  stop the VM
   2. storage motion it to the ACS controlled cluster
   3. start it
   4. ingest vm

again, not the expert but hope it helps. Of course if there are a lot of
them it needs automation, and if no downtime is allowed, this won´t work.

On Thu, Jun 9, 2022 at 10:05 AM Nikolaos Tsinganos
<ni...@dataways.gr.invalid> wrote:

> Hi Daan,
>
> I guess I didn't give the appropriate description of the situation in the
> first place.
>
> VM ingestion is a great and useful feature, but what if the VMware VMs are
> on a remote site that I cannot directly  add as a cluster on ACS.
>
> I mean, if there is  a client that has on-prem VMware infrastructure and
> wants to move the VMs to our IaaS infrastructure (ACS + Xen), what would be
> the recommended way to proceed?
>
> Of course, there are multiple criteria to make such a decision but I
> wanted to ask if there are baseline guidelines.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daan Hoogland <da...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2022 10:08 AM
> To: users <us...@cloudstack.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: lift-and-shift tools/methods
>
> Nikolaos,
> There is an import feature for vmware vms. I think you need to have a look
> at that.
>
> On Wed, Jun 8, 2022 at 6:04 PM Nikolaos Tsinganos
> <ni...@dataways.gr.invalid>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi everybody,
> >
> >
> >
> > Are there any recommended  “lilft-and-shift to cloudstack” tools/methods?
> > … or maybe someone that wants to share his/her experience for an
> > on-premises VMware to  Cloudstack migration? (Cloud migration).
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Nikolaos
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> Daan
>
>

-- 
Daan

Re: lift-and-shift tools/methods

Posted by Nux <nu...@li.nux.ro>.
In the past people moved from Xen or VMware to KVM using libguestfs, but 
I am unsure whether libguestfs supports moving _to_ Xen.

If that doesn't work you could always do it by hand, the following would 
need to be accomplished:
1 - Make sure the source VM has xen drivers ready to load (ie add 
xenblk, xennet etc etc to the ramdisk, not sure how to Windows this)
2 - Download the VMDK and convert it to .vhd or whatever file format you 
are using.
3 - Create a new placeholder VM, maybe from iso, with a volume of the 
correct size, then drop the converted volume from step 2 over it on your 
storage.If the source VM has more than 1 volume, then just convert and 
copy over accordingly.
4. Alternatively - if dealing with a single disk source VM - you could 
always convert it to vhd, register it as a template and then deploy a VM 
from this template - but this way is quite a bit slower.

HTH

---
Nux
www.nux.ro

On 2022-06-09 09:05, Nikolaos Tsinganos wrote:
> Hi Daan,
> 
> I guess I didn't give the appropriate description of the situation in
> the first place.
> 
> VM ingestion is a great and useful feature, but what if the VMware VMs
> are on a remote site that I cannot directly  add as a cluster on ACS.
> 
> I mean, if there is  a client that has on-prem VMware infrastructure
> and wants to move the VMs to our IaaS infrastructure (ACS + Xen), what
> would be the recommended way to proceed?
> 
> Of course, there are multiple criteria to make such a decision but I
> wanted to ask if there are baseline guidelines.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daan Hoogland <da...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2022 10:08 AM
> To: users <us...@cloudstack.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: lift-and-shift tools/methods
> 
> Nikolaos,
> There is an import feature for vmware vms. I think you need to have a
> look at that.
> 
> On Wed, Jun 8, 2022 at 6:04 PM Nikolaos Tsinganos 
> <ni...@dataways.gr.invalid>
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi everybody,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Are there any recommended  “lilft-and-shift to cloudstack” 
>> tools/methods?
>> … or maybe someone that wants to share his/her experience for an
>> on-premises VMware to  Cloudstack migration? (Cloud migration).
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Nikolaos
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> --
> Daan

RE: lift-and-shift tools/methods

Posted by Nikolaos Tsinganos <ni...@dataways.gr.INVALID>.
Hi Daan, 

I guess I didn't give the appropriate description of the situation in the first place.

VM ingestion is a great and useful feature, but what if the VMware VMs are on a remote site that I cannot directly  add as a cluster on ACS.

I mean, if there is  a client that has on-prem VMware infrastructure and wants to move the VMs to our IaaS infrastructure (ACS + Xen), what would be the recommended way to proceed?  

Of course, there are multiple criteria to make such a decision but I wanted to ask if there are baseline guidelines.

-----Original Message-----
From: Daan Hoogland <da...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2022 10:08 AM
To: users <us...@cloudstack.apache.org>
Subject: Re: lift-and-shift tools/methods

Nikolaos,
There is an import feature for vmware vms. I think you need to have a look at that.

On Wed, Jun 8, 2022 at 6:04 PM Nikolaos Tsinganos <ni...@dataways.gr.invalid>
wrote:

> Hi everybody,
>
>   
>
> Are there any recommended  “lilft-and-shift to cloudstack” tools/methods?
> … or maybe someone that wants to share his/her experience for an 
> on-premises VMware to  Cloudstack migration? (Cloud migration).
>
>   
>
> Regards,
>
> Nikolaos
>
>   
>
>   
>
>   
>
>   
>
>   
>
>

--
Daan


Re: lift-and-shift tools/methods

Posted by Daan Hoogland <da...@gmail.com>.
Nikolaos,
There is an import feature for vmware vms. I think you need to have a look
at that.

On Wed, Jun 8, 2022 at 6:04 PM Nikolaos Tsinganos <ni...@dataways.gr.invalid>
wrote:

> Hi everybody,
>
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>
> Are there any recommended  “lilft-and-shift to cloudstack” tools/methods?
> … or maybe someone that wants to share his/her experience for an
> on-premises VMware to  Cloudstack migration? (Cloud migration).
>
>  �
>
> Regards,
>
> Nikolaos
>
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-- 
Daan