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[Bug 5285] New: remove NJABL DUL rule in favour of PBL
http://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=5285
Summary: remove NJABL DUL rule in favour of PBL
Product: Spamassassin
Version: SVN Trunk (Latest Devel Version)
Platform: Other
OS/Version: other
Status: NEW
Severity: minor
Priority: P5
Component: Rules
AssignedTo: dev@spamassassin.apache.org
ReportedBy: jm@jmason.org
apparently the PBL duplicates the NJABL DUL zone, and it's intended by
both maintainers that it'll take over (after a short handover period).
accordingly we'll need to remove RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL before perceptron run.
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[Bug 5285] remove NJABL DUL rule in favour of PBL
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http://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=5285
------- Additional Comments From jm@jmason.org 2007-01-19 09:05 -------
for the record --
'Subject: NJABL announcement: dynablock & Spamhaus PBL
From: help mail.njabl.org
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 11:37:29 -0500 (EST) (16:37 GMT)
To: list njabl.org
With the advent of Spamhaus's PBL (http://spamhaus.org/pbl/),
dynablock.njabl.org has become obsolete. Rather than maintain separate similar
DNSBL zones, NJABL will be working with Spamhaus on the PBL. Effective
immediately, dynablock.njabl.org exists as a copy of the Spamhaus PBL. After
dynablock users have had ample time to update their configurations, the
dynablock.njabl.org zone will be emptied.
Other NJABL zones (i.e. dnsbl, combined, bhnc, and the qw versions) will
continue, business as usual, except that combined will eventually lose its
dynablock component.
If you currently use dynablock.njabl.org we recommend you switch immediately to
pbl.spamhaus.org.
If you currently use combined.njabl.org, we recommend you add pbl.spamhaus.org
to the list of DNSBLs you use.
You may also want to consider using zen.spamhaus.org, which is a combination
zone consisting of Spamhaus's SBL, XBL, and PBL zones.'
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[Bug 5285] remove NJABL DUL rule in favour of PBL
Posted by bu...@bugzilla.spamassassin.org.
http://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=5285
jm@jmason.org changed:
What |Removed |Added
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Status|REOPENED |RESOLVED
Resolution| |FIXED
------- Additional Comments From jm@jmason.org 2007-02-08 06:28 -------
20.152 30.9970 0.1499 0.995 0.67 0.00 T_RCVD_IN_PBL_WITH_NJABL_DUL
1.312 2.0028 0.0372 0.982 0.73 0.00 RCVD_IN_PBL
: jm 40...; grep RCVD_IN_PBL ham.log | grep -v RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL | wc -l
648
: jm 41...; grep RCVD_IN_PBL ham.log | wc -l
877
: jm 42...; grep RCVD_IN_PBL spam.log | grep -v RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL | wc -l
14913
: jm 43...; grep RCVD_IN_PBL spam.log | wc -l
264044
the hit-rate is a lot higher on T_RCVD_IN_PBL_WITH_NJABL_DUL, and most of
the RCVD_IN_PBL hits (94.4%) also hit RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL. looks good enough
to me.
: jm 458...; svn commit -m "bug 5285: reuse NJABL_DUL Dynablock hits as input
for RCVD_IN_PBL during the perceptron run" rules/20_dnsbl_tests.cf
rulesrc/sandbox/jm/20_basic.cf
Sending rulesrc/sandbox/jm/20_basic.cf
Sending rules/20_dnsbl_tests.cf
Transmitting file data ..
Committed revision 504908.
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[Bug 5285] remove NJABL DUL rule in favour of PBL
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jm@jmason.org changed:
What |Removed |Added
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OtherBugsDependingO| |5270
nThis| |
Target Milestone|Undefined |3.2.0
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[Bug 5285] remove NJABL DUL rule in favour of PBL
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------- Additional Comments From parkerm@pobox.com 2007-01-09 05:51 -------
With --reuse we can rename a rule once, should we use the rename trick to move
the RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL hits over to the PBL rule? Or are we too worried about
additional FPs?
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http://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=5285
jm@jmason.org changed:
What |Removed |Added
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Priority|P5 |P4
Status Whiteboard|close before perceptron |pre-perceptron
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------- Additional Comments From shalligan@333tech.com 2007-01-09 09:36 -------
Is NJABL going to stop serving the DUL entirely? If so, bummer. If not, it
should be kept as a rule. NJABL is free for all, PBL is non-free for larger
commercial entities.
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------- Additional Comments From jm@jmason.org 2007-01-13 12:55 -------
freqs:
http://ruleqa.spamassassin.org/20070113-r495852-n/RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL/detail
0.00000 13.5293 1.2629 0.915 0.66 0.00 RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL
http://ruleqa.spamassassin.org/20070113-r495852-n/RCVD_IN_PBL/detail
0.00000 10.9582 1.2212 0.900 0.65 0.00 RCVD_IN_PBL
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jm@jmason.org changed:
What |Removed |Added
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Status|RESOLVED |REOPENED
Resolution|FIXED |
------- Additional Comments From jm@jmason.org 2007-02-05 09:11 -------
reopening -- from prelim results I think we might be better off reusing the
NJABL-DUL hits for PBL after all. let's see once all the results are in
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http://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=5285
------- Additional Comments From jm@jmason.org 2007-01-09 06:06 -------
I think I'd prefer not to, since the spamhaus guys expect that many ISPs will be
creating their PBL accounts in the next few weeks, and modifying their IP
ranges' data. Given that, I'd guess after a few months the data in PBL will
look pretty different from the original data in NJABL-DUL.
I think we'd be better off ignoring NJABL-DUL and doing the PBL mass-checks
using "fresh" results, no reuse at all...
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------- Additional Comments From jm@jmason.org 2007-01-09 09:40 -------
yeah, I think they plan to stop serving it.
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jm@jmason.org changed:
What |Removed |Added
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Status|NEW |RESOLVED
Resolution| |FIXED
------- Additional Comments From jm@jmason.org 2007-01-17 07:06 -------
: jm 1483...; svn commit -m "bug 5187: move RCVD_IN_PBL to main ruleset now that
it's been released; bug 5285: retire RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL in favour of RCVD_IN_PBL"
rules/20_dnsbl_tests.cf rulesrc/sandbox/jm/20_zen.cf
Deleting rulesrc/sandbox/jm/20_zen.cf
Sending rules/20_dnsbl_tests.cf
Transmitting file data .
Committed revision 497038.
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jm@jmason.org changed:
What |Removed |Added
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Status Whiteboard| |close before perceptron
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