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Posted to dev@myfaces.apache.org by Simon Kitching <si...@chello.at> on 2008/02/01 14:06:54 UTC
Tomahawk compatibility table
Hi,
I'm getting really annoyed with all the "why isn't the tomahawk compatibility table up to date" questions.
Unless someone vetos it, I'll just rip that page out of the site tonight, and put the existing info up on the wiki instead. Then users have only themselves to blame if it is not up-to-date.
Regards, Simon
Re: Tomahawk compatibility table
Posted by Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org>.
On Feb 1, 2008 2:06 PM, Simon Kitching <si...@chello.at> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm getting really annoyed with all the "why isn't the tomahawk compatibility table up to date" questions.
:-)
>
> Unless someone vetos it, I'll just rip that page out of the site tonight, and put the existing info up on the wiki instead. Then users have only themselves to blame if it is not up-to-date.
the recent question was about this:
http://wiki.apache.org/myfaces/CompatibilityMatrix
:)
>
> Regards, Simon
>
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Re: Tomahawk compatibility table
Posted by Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org>.
> IMO It's a bit much to ask a release manager to cross check against
> every other release. It takes a *lot* of work to get a release out
> the door.
+1
usually the folks that vote "+1" on a release have done some testing,
at least for their (special) env. Like I am checking against Trinidad;
>
> However, this is an excellent place for a company who is using MyFaces
> in their products to contribute back to the community. If you already
> have a QA department and are set up to handle a test matrix like this,
> what about donating an afternoon of work every month or so and
> reporting the results?
Yes, that would be very nice!
-M
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Re: Tomahawk compatibility table
Posted by Wendy Smoak <ws...@gmail.com>.
On Feb 1, 2008 1:01 PM, Barbalace, Richard <RB...@partners.org> wrote:
> Testing whether two related
> projects are compatible should be a basic part of the release process. It is
> simple QA.
IMO It's a bit much to ask a release manager to cross check against
every other release. It takes a *lot* of work to get a release out
the door.
However, this is an excellent place for a company who is using MyFaces
in their products to contribute back to the community. If you already
have a QA department and are set up to handle a test matrix like this,
what about donating an afternoon of work every month or so and
reporting the results?
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Re: Tomahawk compatibility table
Posted by Martin Marinschek <ma...@gmail.com>.
Hi Richard,
thanks for doubting our competence - you can be sure that we test the latest
release of myfaces-impl with the latest release of tomahawk, and IMHO, this
should be enough.
regards,
Martin
On 2/1/08, Barbalace, Richard <RB...@partners.org> wrote:
>
> I am disappointed by the attitude expressed here. Testing whether two
> related
> projects are compatible should be a basic part of the release process. It
> is
> simple QA. That so many releases have gone through without such an
> essential
> check raises questions about the competence of those involved in this
> project.
>
> Since Tomahawk 1.1.3 and Core 1.1.4, there have been several releases of
> each.
> Just finding a compatible pair of versions is a daunting task for anyone
> given
> the number of possible combinations, especially when trying to adjust for
> incompatible changes among the versions of each project. I have not yet
> found a
> single match of newer versions of Tomahawk and Core that are
> compatible. Having
> used MyFaces for three years now, I can safely say that leaving this
> important
> task to even less experienced users is ridiculous. The developers need to
> take
> responsibility for their work.
>
> Richard J. Barbalace
> Boston, MA, USA
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Simon Kitching [mailto:simon.kitching@chello.at]
> > Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 8:07 AM
> > To: dev@myfaces.apache.org
> > Subject: Tomahawk compatibility table
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm getting really annoyed with all the "why isn't the
> > tomahawk compatibility table up to date" questions.
> >
> > Unless someone vetos it, I'll just rip that page out of the
> > site tonight, and put the existing info up on the wiki
> > instead. Then users have only themselves to blame if it is
> > not up-to-date.
> >
> > Regards, Simon
> >
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RE: Tomahawk compatibility table
Posted by "Barbalace, Richard" <RB...@PARTNERS.ORG>.
I am disappointed by the attitude expressed here. Testing whether two related
projects are compatible should be a basic part of the release process. It is
simple QA. That so many releases have gone through without such an essential
check raises questions about the competence of those involved in this project.
Since Tomahawk 1.1.3 and Core 1.1.4, there have been several releases of each.
Just finding a compatible pair of versions is a daunting task for anyone given
the number of possible combinations, especially when trying to adjust for
incompatible changes among the versions of each project. I have not yet found a
single match of newer versions of Tomahawk and Core that are compatible. Having
used MyFaces for three years now, I can safely say that leaving this important
task to even less experienced users is ridiculous. The developers need to take
responsibility for their work.
Richard J. Barbalace
Boston, MA, USA
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Simon Kitching [mailto:simon.kitching@chello.at]
> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 8:07 AM
> To: dev@myfaces.apache.org
> Subject: Tomahawk compatibility table
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm getting really annoyed with all the "why isn't the
> tomahawk compatibility table up to date" questions.
>
> Unless someone vetos it, I'll just rip that page out of the
> site tonight, and put the existing info up on the wiki
> instead. Then users have only themselves to blame if it is
> not up-to-date.
>
> Regards, Simon
>
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