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Posted to dev@flex.apache.org by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> on 2013/10/08 18:42:30 UTC

Web Tier Compiler

In the BlazeDS audit, it was discovered that the Web Tier Compiler is not donated to Apache.  Is anybody actually using it?  If so, I will look into donating it, but don't reflexively say yes since working on that donation will delay some FlexJS work.

-Alex

RE: Web Tier Compiler

Posted by "Sharma, Pratyoosh" <pr...@jpmorgan.com>.
I highly suspect anyone would be using web-tier compiler anymore, in the remotest possibility that anyone is 
It can be easily replaced by a java wrapper script that invokes mxmlc 

Thanks,
Pratyoosh 
-----Original Message-----
From: Alex Harui [mailto:aharui@adobe.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2013 12:10 PM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: RE: Web Tier Compiler

To be clear, this is not about the source for the 1.1 compiler or any compiler that supports AS2.  Apparently there is a compiler that supports Flex 3 and AS3.  Is anyone using that?

-Alex
________________________________________
From: Nicholas Kwiatkowski [nicholas@spoon.as]
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2013 8:50 AM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: Web Tier Compiler

Because CF still uses the 1.1 Flex compiler...  Which didn't have a standalone compiler..

Better yet, there is now about 8 years of crazy as2 code out there built in CF that depends on this old version.

Sigh.


On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 4:06 AM, Tom Chiverton <tc...@extravision.com> wrote:

> On 09/10/2013 02:16, Nick Collins wrote:
>
>> I'm assuming the web tier compiler is the one where we can load an 
>> MXML file from the server much like one would load a JSP and it will 
>> compile the app on first request and return the SWF? I personally 
>> don't have a need for that, but others may. I'd rather push through 
>> the current BlazeDS then work on that portion later if there is a 
>> need for it.
>>
> Snap.
>
> If the web tier compiler vanished off the face of the earth, all the 
> affected people need to do is run the .mxml through mxmlc and make a 
> tiny change to the hosting HTML page, as far as I can tell.
> As soon as there was a standalone compiler, everyone I know stopped 
> using the compile-on-the-fly one. I have no idea why things like 
> ColdFusion still ship it !
>
> Tom
>

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Re: Web Tier Compiler

Posted by Nicholas Kwiatkowski <ni...@spoon.as>.
I was using it while I was a customer that purchased the BlazeDS product.
 I haven't since the 2.6.1 days....

-Nick


On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:

> To be clear, this is not about the source for the 1.1 compiler or any
> compiler that supports AS2.  Apparently there is a compiler that supports
> Flex 3 and AS3.  Is anyone using that?
>
> -Alex
> ________________________________________
> From: Nicholas Kwiatkowski [nicholas@spoon.as]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2013 8:50 AM
> To: dev@flex.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Web Tier Compiler
>
> Because CF still uses the 1.1 Flex compiler...  Which didn't have a
> standalone compiler..
>
> Better yet, there is now about 8 years of crazy as2 code out there built in
> CF that depends on this old version.
>
> Sigh.
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 4:06 AM, Tom Chiverton <tc...@extravision.com> wrote:
>
> > On 09/10/2013 02:16, Nick Collins wrote:
> >
> >> I'm assuming the web tier compiler is the one where we can load an MXML
> >> file from the server much like one would load a JSP and it will compile
> >> the
> >> app on first request and return the SWF? I personally don't have a need
> >> for
> >> that, but others may. I'd rather push through the current BlazeDS then
> >> work
> >> on that portion later if there is a need for it.
> >>
> > Snap.
> >
> > If the web tier compiler vanished off the face of the earth, all the
> > affected people need to do is run the .mxml through mxmlc and make a tiny
> > change to the hosting HTML page, as far as I can tell.
> > As soon as there was a standalone compiler, everyone I know stopped using
> > the compile-on-the-fly one. I have no idea why things like ColdFusion
> still
> > ship it !
> >
> > Tom
> >
>

RE: Web Tier Compiler

Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.
To be clear, this is not about the source for the 1.1 compiler or any compiler that supports AS2.  Apparently there is a compiler that supports Flex 3 and AS3.  Is anyone using that?

-Alex
________________________________________
From: Nicholas Kwiatkowski [nicholas@spoon.as]
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2013 8:50 AM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: Web Tier Compiler

Because CF still uses the 1.1 Flex compiler...  Which didn't have a
standalone compiler..

Better yet, there is now about 8 years of crazy as2 code out there built in
CF that depends on this old version.

Sigh.


On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 4:06 AM, Tom Chiverton <tc...@extravision.com> wrote:

> On 09/10/2013 02:16, Nick Collins wrote:
>
>> I'm assuming the web tier compiler is the one where we can load an MXML
>> file from the server much like one would load a JSP and it will compile
>> the
>> app on first request and return the SWF? I personally don't have a need
>> for
>> that, but others may. I'd rather push through the current BlazeDS then
>> work
>> on that portion later if there is a need for it.
>>
> Snap.
>
> If the web tier compiler vanished off the face of the earth, all the
> affected people need to do is run the .mxml through mxmlc and make a tiny
> change to the hosting HTML page, as far as I can tell.
> As soon as there was a standalone compiler, everyone I know stopped using
> the compile-on-the-fly one. I have no idea why things like ColdFusion still
> ship it !
>
> Tom
>

Re: Web Tier Compiler

Posted by Nicholas Kwiatkowski <ni...@spoon.as>.
Because CF still uses the 1.1 Flex compiler...  Which didn't have a
standalone compiler..

Better yet, there is now about 8 years of crazy as2 code out there built in
CF that depends on this old version.

Sigh.


On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 4:06 AM, Tom Chiverton <tc...@extravision.com> wrote:

> On 09/10/2013 02:16, Nick Collins wrote:
>
>> I'm assuming the web tier compiler is the one where we can load an MXML
>> file from the server much like one would load a JSP and it will compile
>> the
>> app on first request and return the SWF? I personally don't have a need
>> for
>> that, but others may. I'd rather push through the current BlazeDS then
>> work
>> on that portion later if there is a need for it.
>>
> Snap.
>
> If the web tier compiler vanished off the face of the earth, all the
> affected people need to do is run the .mxml through mxmlc and make a tiny
> change to the hosting HTML page, as far as I can tell.
> As soon as there was a standalone compiler, everyone I know stopped using
> the compile-on-the-fly one. I have no idea why things like ColdFusion still
> ship it !
>
> Tom
>

Re: Web Tier Compiler

Posted by Tom Chiverton <tc...@extravision.com>.
On 09/10/2013 13:17, Paul Hastings wrote:
> Well I enjoy backwards compatibility,

It's not like CFN just stops working when CFN+1 comes out, you can keep 
it around for as long as you like...

But we may be straying off topic ;-)

Tom

Re: Web Tier Compiler

Posted by Paul Hastings <pa...@gmail.com>.
Well I enjoy backwards compatibility, so I guess have to put up w/the
occasional 'blip'.

Re: Web Tier Compiler

Posted by Tom Chiverton <tc...@extravision.com>.
On 09/10/2013 12:13, Paul Hastings wrote:
> On 10/9/2013 3:06 PM, Tom Chiverton wrote:
>
>> using the compile-on-the-fly one. I have no idea why things like
>> ColdFusion still ship it !
>
> flash forms.
Like I said, I have no idea why ColdFusion ships these things :-)

Tom

Re: Web Tier Compiler

Posted by Paul Hastings <pa...@gmail.com>.
On 10/9/2013 3:06 PM, Tom Chiverton wrote:

> using the compile-on-the-fly one. I have no idea why things like
> ColdFusion still ship it !

flash forms.


Re: Web Tier Compiler

Posted by Tom Chiverton <tc...@extravision.com>.
On 09/10/2013 02:16, Nick Collins wrote:
> I'm assuming the web tier compiler is the one where we can load an MXML
> file from the server much like one would load a JSP and it will compile the
> app on first request and return the SWF? I personally don't have a need for
> that, but others may. I'd rather push through the current BlazeDS then work
> on that portion later if there is a need for it.
Snap.

If the web tier compiler vanished off the face of the earth, all the 
affected people need to do is run the .mxml through mxmlc and make a 
tiny change to the hosting HTML page, as far as I can tell.
As soon as there was a standalone compiler, everyone I know stopped 
using the compile-on-the-fly one. I have no idea why things like 
ColdFusion still ship it !

Tom

Re: Web Tier Compiler

Posted by Nick Collins <nd...@gmail.com>.
I'm assuming the web tier compiler is the one where we can load an MXML
file from the server much like one would load a JSP and it will compile the
app on first request and return the SWF? I personally don't have a need for
that, but others may. I'd rather push through the current BlazeDS then work
on that portion later if there is a need for it.


On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 12:15 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala
<bi...@gmail.com>wrote:

> On Oct 8, 2013 9:43 AM, "Alex Harui" <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
> >
> > In the BlazeDS audit, it was discovered that the Web Tier Compiler is not
> donated to Apache.  Is anybody actually using it?  If so, I will look into
> donating it, but don't reflexively say yes since working on that donation
> will delay some FlexJS work.
>
> +1 from my side.
>
> The web tier compiler would be very useful for a project I am working on
> right now.  I would rather use the Apache License than Adobe's license.
> But if you think you can put that somewhere in your queue in the next 6
> months, that would be fine as well.  I certainly don't want FlexJS to
> suffer because of this.
>
> Thanks,
> Om
>
> >
> > -Alex
>

Re: Web Tier Compiler

Posted by OmPrakash Muppirala <bi...@gmail.com>.
On Oct 8, 2013 9:43 AM, "Alex Harui" <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
>
> In the BlazeDS audit, it was discovered that the Web Tier Compiler is not
donated to Apache.  Is anybody actually using it?  If so, I will look into
donating it, but don't reflexively say yes since working on that donation
will delay some FlexJS work.

+1 from my side.

The web tier compiler would be very useful for a project I am working on
right now.  I would rather use the Apache License than Adobe's license.
But if you think you can put that somewhere in your queue in the next 6
months, that would be fine as well.  I certainly don't want FlexJS to
suffer because of this.

Thanks,
Om

>
> -Alex