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Posted to dev@qpid.apache.org by Carl Trieloff <cc...@redhat.com> on 2007/01/08 23:46:56 UTC
Web site
I have started to update the site based on the list discussion we had
end of last year. http://incubator.apache.org/qpid/ now redirects to the
cwiki. thanks to some help from Dan I have also added in left side
navigation, created some of the web site pages we need and fix the
navigation for the site export format. The wiki as 5:30 EST has been
exported to the static html pages.
Feedback on what is done so far is welcome. I should hopefully get art
from our design team soon and will try get most of the remaining move
around and basic pages in soon.
Enjoy.
Carl.
Re: Web site
Posted by Rupert Smith <ru...@googlemail.com>.
This is a great improvement. Being new to something can let you see things
in the way that other people who are also looking at it for the first time
will see it. My first impression of the old site was not good; enticing
links to documentation that turn out to be links to placeholder pages with
nothing in them. The sort of thing that instantly turns me off an open
source project. This actually looks like a live project with an up to date
site now.
A suggested improvement: Can there be a search box that searches just the
qpid wiki space? The google search applies accross all Apache cwikis.
Rupert
RE: Becoming a committer
Posted by Tomas Restrepo <to...@devdeo.com>.
Carl,
> There has been some discussion of the PPMC list to work out our policy
> for becoming a committer for Qpid, or what the bar is we want to use for
> Qpid moving forward. From the discussion so far we would like new
> committers to have provided meaningful contribution to the project.
>
> The key question is what do we consider to be meaningful contribution to
> be come a committer. Once we set that bar we need to use that for
> everyone moving forward. It is probably better to be more conservative
> in general with adding new committers.
>
> To this end we are thinking that we should see if someone consistently
> provides quality development through patches and interactions with the
> project over a period or 1 to 2 months. Based on that the PPMC will vote
> the new committers onto the project.
As an "outsider" and newcomer to the project, the proposal sounds very
reasonable to me...
Tomas Restrepo
tomas.restrepo@devdeo.com
http://www.winterdom.com/weblog/
Re: Becoming a committer
Posted by Carl Trieloff <cc...@redhat.com>.
Posted on getting involved page... please make sure I captured all the
comments in this thread correctly.
Carl.
Rajith Attapattu wrote:
> Lets explicitly mention documentation too.
> Apache is usually built around a "culture of code" and many projects
> are finding it that they need to vote in people purely based on their
> documentation skills.
> Documentation is very important for an open source project.
> So big +1 for it.
>
> Rajith
>
> On 1/11/07, *Carl Trieloff* <cctrieloff@redhat.com
> <ma...@redhat.com>> wrote:
>
>
> Cliff,
>
> I meant it to be inclusive as you say below. It might also be good to
> place this on the wiki so
> that it is easy to find at a later point and be explicit about those
> aspects you call out. I can do that
> when I get to work on the other wiki/ web aspects.
>
> Carl.
>
>
> Cliff Schmidt wrote:
> > On 1/10/07, Tomas Restrepo <tomas.restrepo@devdeo.com
> <ma...@devdeo.com>> wrote:
> >> Carl,
> >>
> >>
> >> > There has been some discussion of the PPMC list to work out
> our policy
> >> > for becoming a committer for Qpid, or what the bar is we want to
> >> use for
> >> > Qpid moving forward. From the discussion so far we would like new
> >> > committers to have provided meaningful contribution to the
> project.
> >> >
> >> > The key question is what do we consider to be meaningful
> >> contribution to
> >> > be come a committer. Once we set that bar we need to use that for
> >> > everyone moving forward. It is probably better to be more
> conservative
> >> > in general with adding new committers.
> >> >
> >> > To this end we are thinking that we should see if someone
> consistently
> >> > provides quality development through patches and interactions
> with the
> >> > project over a period or 1 to 2 months. Based on that the
> PPMC will
> >> vote
> >> > the new committers onto the project.
> >>
> >> As an "outsider" and newcomer to the project, the proposal
> sounds very
> >> reasonable to me...
> >
> > The "consistent" part and the "1 to 2 months" both seem
> reasonable to
> > me too. I'd like to suggest that there are other ways than
> > development to make quality contributions to the project worthy of
> > committership, such as documentation and release management.
> >
> > Unless you meant...
> > "consistently provides (quality development through patches) and
> > (interactions with the project)"
> >
> > with "interactions with the project" covering the non-dev stuff.
> >
> > Cliff
>
>
Re: Becoming a committer
Posted by Rajith Attapattu <ra...@gmail.com>.
Lets explicitly mention documentation too.
Apache is usually built around a "culture of code" and many projects are
finding it that they need to vote in people purely based on their
documentation skills.
Documentation is very important for an open source project.
So big +1 for it.
Rajith
On 1/11/07, Carl Trieloff <cc...@redhat.com> wrote:
>
>
> Cliff,
>
> I meant it to be inclusive as you say below. It might also be good to
> place this on the wiki so
> that it is easy to find at a later point and be explicit about those
> aspects you call out. I can do that
> when I get to work on the other wiki/ web aspects.
>
> Carl.
>
>
> Cliff Schmidt wrote:
> > On 1/10/07, Tomas Restrepo <to...@devdeo.com> wrote:
> >> Carl,
> >>
> >>
> >> > There has been some discussion of the PPMC list to work out our
> policy
> >> > for becoming a committer for Qpid, or what the bar is we want to
> >> use for
> >> > Qpid moving forward. From the discussion so far we would like new
> >> > committers to have provided meaningful contribution to the project.
> >> >
> >> > The key question is what do we consider to be meaningful
> >> contribution to
> >> > be come a committer. Once we set that bar we need to use that for
> >> > everyone moving forward. It is probably better to be more
> conservative
> >> > in general with adding new committers.
> >> >
> >> > To this end we are thinking that we should see if someone
> consistently
> >> > provides quality development through patches and interactions with
> the
> >> > project over a period or 1 to 2 months. Based on that the PPMC will
> >> vote
> >> > the new committers onto the project.
> >>
> >> As an "outsider" and newcomer to the project, the proposal sounds very
> >> reasonable to me...
> >
> > The "consistent" part and the "1 to 2 months" both seem reasonable to
> > me too. I'd like to suggest that there are other ways than
> > development to make quality contributions to the project worthy of
> > committership, such as documentation and release management.
> >
> > Unless you meant...
> > "consistently provides (quality development through patches) and
> > (interactions with the project)"
> >
> > with "interactions with the project" covering the non-dev stuff.
> >
> > Cliff
>
>
Re: Becoming a committer
Posted by Carl Trieloff <cc...@redhat.com>.
Cliff,
I meant it to be inclusive as you say below. It might also be good to
place this on the wiki so
that it is easy to find at a later point and be explicit about those
aspects you call out. I can do that
when I get to work on the other wiki/ web aspects.
Carl.
Cliff Schmidt wrote:
> On 1/10/07, Tomas Restrepo <to...@devdeo.com> wrote:
>> Carl,
>>
>>
>> > There has been some discussion of the PPMC list to work out our policy
>> > for becoming a committer for Qpid, or what the bar is we want to
>> use for
>> > Qpid moving forward. From the discussion so far we would like new
>> > committers to have provided meaningful contribution to the project.
>> >
>> > The key question is what do we consider to be meaningful
>> contribution to
>> > be come a committer. Once we set that bar we need to use that for
>> > everyone moving forward. It is probably better to be more conservative
>> > in general with adding new committers.
>> >
>> > To this end we are thinking that we should see if someone consistently
>> > provides quality development through patches and interactions with the
>> > project over a period or 1 to 2 months. Based on that the PPMC will
>> vote
>> > the new committers onto the project.
>>
>> As an "outsider" and newcomer to the project, the proposal sounds very
>> reasonable to me...
>
> The "consistent" part and the "1 to 2 months" both seem reasonable to
> me too. I'd like to suggest that there are other ways than
> development to make quality contributions to the project worthy of
> committership, such as documentation and release management.
>
> Unless you meant...
> "consistently provides (quality development through patches) and
> (interactions with the project)"
>
> with "interactions with the project" covering the non-dev stuff.
>
> Cliff
Re: Becoming a committer
Posted by Cliff Schmidt <cl...@gmail.com>.
On 1/10/07, Tomas Restrepo <to...@devdeo.com> wrote:
> Carl,
>
>
> > There has been some discussion of the PPMC list to work out our policy
> > for becoming a committer for Qpid, or what the bar is we want to use for
> > Qpid moving forward. From the discussion so far we would like new
> > committers to have provided meaningful contribution to the project.
> >
> > The key question is what do we consider to be meaningful contribution to
> > be come a committer. Once we set that bar we need to use that for
> > everyone moving forward. It is probably better to be more conservative
> > in general with adding new committers.
> >
> > To this end we are thinking that we should see if someone consistently
> > provides quality development through patches and interactions with the
> > project over a period or 1 to 2 months. Based on that the PPMC will vote
> > the new committers onto the project.
>
> As an "outsider" and newcomer to the project, the proposal sounds very
> reasonable to me...
The "consistent" part and the "1 to 2 months" both seem reasonable to
me too. I'd like to suggest that there are other ways than
development to make quality contributions to the project worthy of
committership, such as documentation and release management.
Unless you meant...
"consistently provides (quality development through patches) and
(interactions with the project)"
with "interactions with the project" covering the non-dev stuff.
Cliff
Becoming a committer
Posted by Carl Trieloff <cc...@redhat.com>.
There has been some discussion of the PPMC list to work out our policy
for becoming a committer for Qpid, or what the bar is we want to use for
Qpid moving forward. From the discussion so far we would like new
committers to have provided meaningful contribution to the project.
The key question is what do we consider to be meaningful contribution to
be come a committer. Once we set that bar we need to use that for
everyone moving forward. It is probably better to be more conservative
in general with adding new committers.
To this end we are thinking that we should see if someone consistently
provides quality development through patches and interactions with the
project over a period or 1 to 2 months. Based on that the PPMC will vote
the new committers onto the project.
Is there any additional feedback to what the PPMC has come up with, or
anything else that you think we should consider?
Regards
Carl.
Re: Web site
Posted by Carl Trieloff <cc...@redhat.com>.
> I strongly agree. Right now, a committer is a committer, regardless of
> their actual contribution. The problem with listing only those that
> you've personally deemed worthy to be listed is that you'd need to
> stay on top of that list and modify it accordingly on at least a
> weekly basis, and also I think any changes to it would require voting,
> to be fair, which is all way too much overhead. When Qpid graduates,
> my understanding is that the committer list will be pared down
> according to actual contribution, so let's leave it until then.
>
> --steve
Good point,
I will update based on Carma for the top table. I also do think it is
meaningful to have a table to list those that have contributed but not
committers. we could update that once a month or something like that.
Carl.
Re: Web site
Posted by Steve Vinoski <vi...@iona.com>.
On Jan 10, 2007, at 7:07 PM, Cliff Schmidt wrote:
> On 1/9/07, Carl Trieloff <cc...@redhat.com> wrote:
>
>> 3. I have created the people page. I used the Geronimo template and
>> modified a bit given our
>> incubator status. Please update your origination if you want it. I
>> got
>> the list of names by working though
>> the achieve to see who has substantial contributed (definition of
>> this
>> could be debated, but I just looked for
>> consistent list & code contributions). I also provided a section for
>> those that are contributing
>> but are not committers yet, or may chose not to become committers.
>> Names
>> are in alphabetical order by first
>> name - just copied format from Geronimo. An then of coarse list
>> our mentors.
>
> I realize that you are basing this on what Geronimo has done, but
> personally, I think it's a bad idea to list the organizations on the
> project's people page. Most people seem to want to know this on the
> proposal, but I think it might send the wrong message to someone who
> doesn't know much about Apache and is browsing the project's site.
I agree.
> It also seems to be a little tricky to me to decide which committers
> to list. Unless a committer says they are no longer active or don't
> want to be listed, I would think you should list them all. You could
> keep a separate list of PPMC members (which were elected based on
> their history as being the active committers).
I strongly agree. Right now, a committer is a committer, regardless
of their actual contribution. The problem with listing only those
that you've personally deemed worthy to be listed is that you'd need
to stay on top of that list and modify it accordingly on at least a
weekly basis, and also I think any changes to it would require
voting, to be fair, which is all way too much overhead. When Qpid
graduates, my understanding is that the committer list will be pared
down according to actual contribution, so let's leave it until then.
--steve
Re: Web site
Posted by Carl Trieloff <cc...@redhat.com>.
Thanks, I will try mess with that a bit later today when I get some time.
Carl.
Johnson, Eric wrote:
> Carl,
> One approach would to add the headers and footers to the autoexport
> template. This way they are consistent and do not necessarily need to be
> put in the live wiki.
> Cheers,
> Eric
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Carl Trieloff [mailto:cctrieloff@redhat.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 8:57 AM
>> To: qpid-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: Web site
>>
>> Cliff Schmidt wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/9/07, Carl Trieloff <cc...@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> 1. I have updated the home page to have the disclaimer
>>>>
>> line and link
>>
>>>> to status page
>>>>
>>> I just took a quick look at what other podling home pages have. It
>>> looks to me like most of them include the Incubator logo (see
>>> http://incubator.apache.org/images/apache-incubator-logo.png). I
>>> think you should definitely add this somewhere.
>>>
>>> Some of them also include the full disclaimer text on the home page
>>> like http://incubator.apache.org/ode/. Some of them
>>>
>> include both the
>>
>>> logo and the disclaimer text, like
>>>
>> http://incubator.apache.org/xap and
>>
>>> http://incubator.apache.org/uima/.
>>>
>> Thanks, I was trying to see if I could get the incubator logo
>> into the navigation bar so that it shows up on every page. I
>> need to play with that a bit. I also wanted to try create a
>> footer or header that had the incubator text.
>>
>> If I can't get that working in the next few days I will break
>> down and just paste it onto the home home.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>> 2. The license has been added to the project.
>>>>
>>> There seems to be an emoticon from the "(i)" in the license
>>>
>> text. You
>>
>>> could always link directly to
>>> http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0, although that
>>>
>> would leave
>>
>>> your site. And I don't think this is necessary right now; but, as I
>>> mentioned before, it would be nice to eventually link to something
>>> that includes all the relevant licenses, as is required in the
>>> distribution's LICENSE file.
>>>
>> Fixed on wiki - thanks, will publish in a bit.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>> 3. I have created the people page. I used the Geronimo template and
>>>> modified a bit given our
>>>> incubator status. Please update your origination if you
>>>>
>> want it. I got
>>
>>>> the list of names by working though
>>>> the achieve to see who has substantial contributed
>>>>
>> (definition of this
>>
>>>> could be debated, but I just looked for
>>>> consistent list & code contributions). I also provided a
>>>>
>> section for
>>
>>>> those that are contributing
>>>> but are not committers yet, or may chose not to become
>>>>
>> committers. Names
>>
>>>> are in alphabetical order by first
>>>> name - just copied format from Geronimo. An then of coarse
>>>>
>> list our
>>
>>>> mentors.
>>>>
>>> I realize that you are basing this on what Geronimo has done, but
>>> personally, I think it's a bad idea to list the organizations on the
>>> project's people page. Most people seem to want to know this on the
>>> proposal, but I think it might send the wrong message to someone who
>>> doesn't know much about Apache and is browsing the project's site.
>>>
>>> It also seems to be a little tricky to me to decide which committers
>>> to list. Unless a committer says they are no longer active or don't
>>> want to be listed, I would think you should list them all.
>>>
>> You could
>>
>>> keep a separate list of PPMC members (which were elected based on
>>> their history as being the active committers).
>>>
>>> Aside from getting the Incubator logo on the page (which I think
>>> really does need to be done), all of this is just my personal
>>> suggestion.
>>>
>>>
>> Thanks, on the last topic I was in two minds about how to do
>> that so I
>> will start a new
>> thread on the topic with some additional questions I have.
>> Glad to see
>> someone read my
>> note - I was hoping it would be discussed.
>>
>> Regards
>> Carl.
>>
>>
>>
Re: Web site
Posted by Marnie McCormack <ma...@googlemail.com>.
Hi Carl,
The new layout looks much better - thanks for all your efforts on this
front.
I hope to add some more starter/developer docs into the java space shortly
to help users onboard to Qpid.
Bfn,
Marnie
On 1/12/07, Carl Trieloff <cc...@redhat.com> wrote:
>
>
> Update,
>
> I have updated the people page to match the karma as listed on
> http://people.apache.org/~jim/projects.html#qpid, let me know if I have
> made any mistakes.
>
> Note that this is not all the people that are on the project proposal as
> some have not requested karma. If they do we should go ahead and add
> them as they do would be my perspective. Also, James stepped down as our
> mentor not having enough time to help this project also so he is not
> listed as a mentor on the people page.
>
> The last question would be, do we want to list your affiliation? If you
> do fill it in by your name -- some projects do and some don't. If the
> general feeling is not to then we should remove the column.
>
> Carl.
>
Web site
Posted by Carl Trieloff <cc...@redhat.com>.
Update,
I have updated the people page to match the karma as listed on
http://people.apache.org/~jim/projects.html#qpid, let me know if I have
made any mistakes.
Note that this is not all the people that are on the project proposal as
some have not requested karma. If they do we should go ahead and add
them as they do would be my perspective. Also, James stepped down as our
mentor not having enough time to help this project also so he is not
listed as a mentor on the people page.
The last question would be, do we want to list your affiliation? If you
do fill it in by your name -- some projects do and some don't. If the
general feeling is not to then we should remove the column.
Carl.
Re: Web site
Posted by David Blevins <da...@visi.com>.
On Jan 11, 2007, at 12:01 PM, Carl Trieloff wrote:
>
> I see that the exported site is correct with logo's - but the wiki
> pages don't have the logo's correctly.
>
> Usually export fixes this, but this time it did not. If anyone
> knows why please point me in the right direction...
>
> correct on public pages
> http://cwiki.apache.org/qpid/index.html
> no logo's on wiki pages
> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/qpid/Index
Don't know if this will help but for the OpenEJB autoexport based
site we've got the logo on every page and the disclaimer text as the
footer of every page. It's right in the template as adding it to
every confluence page would be a pretty arduous task.
The template is here for reference (for those that don't have cwiki
admin):
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openejb/trunk/website/
src/vm/openejb_autoexport.vm
It may or may not provide good hints. Excuse the html though, it
hasn't really been updated in seven years.
-David
> Carl.
>
>
>
>
> Carl Trieloff wrote:
>>
>> incubator logos done, next step is text.
>>
>> Johnson, Eric wrote:
>>> Carl,
>>> One approach would to add the headers and footers to the autoexport
>>> template. This way they are consistent and do not necessarily
>>> need to be
>>> put in the live wiki.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Eric
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Carl Trieloff [mailto:cctrieloff@redhat.com] Sent:
>>>> Thursday, January 11, 2007 8:57 AM
>>>> To: qpid-dev@incubator.apache.org
>>>> Subject: Re: Web site
>>>>
>>>> Cliff Schmidt wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 1/9/07, Carl Trieloff <cc...@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. I have updated the home page to have the disclaimer
>>>> line and link
>>>>>> to status page
>>>>>>
>>>>> I just took a quick look at what other podling home pages
>>>>> have. It looks to me like most of them include the Incubator
>>>>> logo (see http://incubator.apache.org/images/apache-incubator-
>>>>> logo.png). I think you should definitely add this somewhere.
>>>>>
>>>>> Some of them also include the full disclaimer text on the home
>>>>> page like http://incubator.apache.org/ode/. Some of them
>>>> include both the
>>>>> logo and the disclaimer text, like
>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/xap and
>>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/uima/.
>>>>>
>>>> Thanks, I was trying to see if I could get the incubator logo
>>>> into the navigation bar so that it shows up on every page. I
>>>> need to play with that a bit. I also wanted to try create a
>>>> footer or header that had the incubator text.
>>>>
>>>> If I can't get that working in the next few days I will break
>>>> down and just paste it onto the home home.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> 2. The license has been added to the project.
>>>>>>
>>>>> There seems to be an emoticon from the "(i)" in the license
>>>> text. You
>>>>
>>>>> could always link directly to
>>>>> http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0, although that
>>>> would leave
>>>>
>>>>> your site. And I don't think this is necessary right now; but,
>>>>> as I
>>>>> mentioned before, it would be nice to eventually link to something
>>>>> that includes all the relevant licenses, as is required in the
>>>>> distribution's LICENSE file.
>>>>>
>>>> Fixed on wiki - thanks, will publish in a bit.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> 3. I have created the people page. I used the Geronimo
>>>>>> template and
>>>>>> modified a bit given our
>>>>>> incubator status. Please update your origination if you
>>>> want it. I got
>>>>
>>>>>> the list of names by working though
>>>>>> the achieve to see who has substantial contributed
>>>> (definition of this
>>>>
>>>>>> could be debated, but I just looked for
>>>>>> consistent list & code contributions). I also provided a
>>>> section for
>>>>
>>>>>> those that are contributing
>>>>>> but are not committers yet, or may chose not to become
>>>> committers. Names
>>>>
>>>>>> are in alphabetical order by first
>>>>>> name - just copied format from Geronimo. An then of coarse
>>>> list our
>>>>>> mentors.
>>>>>>
>>>>> I realize that you are basing this on what Geronimo has done, but
>>>>> personally, I think it's a bad idea to list the organizations
>>>>> on the
>>>>> project's people page. Most people seem to want to know this
>>>>> on the
>>>>> proposal, but I think it might send the wrong message to
>>>>> someone who
>>>>> doesn't know much about Apache and is browsing the project's site.
>>>>>
>>>>> It also seems to be a little tricky to me to decide which
>>>>> committers
>>>>> to list. Unless a committer says they are no longer active or
>>>>> don't
>>>>> want to be listed, I would think you should list them all.
>>>> You could
>>>>
>>>>> keep a separate list of PPMC members (which were elected based on
>>>>> their history as being the active committers).
>>>>>
>>>>> Aside from getting the Incubator logo on the page (which I think
>>>>> really does need to be done), all of this is just my personal
>>>>> suggestion.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Thanks, on the last topic I was in two minds about how to do
>>>> that so I will start a new
>>>> thread on the topic with some additional questions I have. Glad
>>>> to see someone read my
>>>> note - I was hoping it would be discussed.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Carl.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>
Re: Web site
Posted by Carl Trieloff <cc...@redhat.com>.
Johnson, Eric wrote:
> If you added the logos using the autoexport feature they are added when
> the pages are exported.
yes done that.. and that worked
> They are never part of the content of the wiki.
>
well not that sure, the wiki did not have the nav bar and if I edited a
page or did export it would fix the wiki
pages also. I got it to work on one of two pages by "touching" them but
that is also to painful. There has to be
a way to do it as some of the other projects have got it right on the wiki.
Carl.
RE: Web site
Posted by "Johnson, Eric" <Er...@iona.com>.
If you added the logos using the autoexport feature they are added when
the pages are exported. They are never part of the content of the wiki.
If you want them on the wiki pages you will need to add them to every
page manually.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Carl Trieloff [mailto:cctrieloff@redhat.com]
> Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 3:02 PM
> To: qpid-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Web site
>
>
> I see that the exported site is correct with logo's - but the
> wiki pages don't have the logo's correctly.
>
> Usually export fixes this, but this time it did not. If
> anyone knows why please point me in the right direction...
>
> correct on public pages
> http://cwiki.apache.org/qpid/index.html
> no logo's on wiki pages
> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/qpid/Index
>
> Carl.
>
>
>
>
> Carl Trieloff wrote:
> >
> > incubator logos done, next step is text.
> >
> > Johnson, Eric wrote:
> >> Carl,
> >> One approach would to add the headers and footers to the
> autoexport
> >> template. This way they are consistent and do not
> necessarily need to
> >> be put in the live wiki.
> >> Cheers,
> >> Eric
> >>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Carl Trieloff [mailto:cctrieloff@redhat.com] Sent:
> Thursday,
> >>> January 11, 2007 8:57 AM
> >>> To: qpid-dev@incubator.apache.org
> >>> Subject: Re: Web site
> >>>
> >>> Cliff Schmidt wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 1/9/07, Carl Trieloff <cc...@redhat.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> 1. I have updated the home page to have the disclaimer
> >>> line and link
> >>>>> to status page
> >>>>>
> >>>> I just took a quick look at what other podling home
> pages have. It
> >>>> looks to me like most of them include the Incubator logo (see
> >>>>
> http://incubator.apache.org/images/apache-incubator-logo.png). I
> >>>> think you should definitely add this somewhere.
> >>>>
> >>>> Some of them also include the full disclaimer text on
> the home page
> >>>> like http://incubator.apache.org/ode/. Some of them
> >>> include both the
> >>>> logo and the disclaimer text, like
> >>> http://incubator.apache.org/xap and
> >>>> http://incubator.apache.org/uima/.
> >>>>
> >>> Thanks, I was trying to see if I could get the incubator
> logo into
> >>> the navigation bar so that it shows up on every page. I
> need to play
> >>> with that a bit. I also wanted to try create a footer or
> header that
> >>> had the incubator text.
> >>>
> >>> If I can't get that working in the next few days I will
> break down
> >>> and just paste it onto the home home.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>> 2. The license has been added to the project.
> >>>>>
> >>>> There seems to be an emoticon from the "(i)" in the
> license
> >>> text. You
> >>>
> >>>> could always link directly to
> >>>> http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0, although that
> >>> would leave
> >>>
> >>>> your site. And I don't think this is necessary right
> now; but, as
> >>>> I mentioned before, it would be nice to eventually link to
> >>>> something that includes all the relevant licenses, as is
> required
> >>>> in the distribution's LICENSE file.
> >>>>
> >>> Fixed on wiki - thanks, will publish in a bit.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>> 3. I have created the people page. I used the Geronimo template
> >>>>> and modified a bit given our
> >>>>> incubator status. Please update your origination if you
> >>> want it. I got
> >>>
> >>>>> the list of names by working though
> >>>>> the achieve to see who has substantial contributed
> >>> (definition of this
> >>>
> >>>>> could be debated, but I just looked for
> >>>>> consistent list & code contributions). I also provided
> a
> >>> section for
> >>>
> >>>>> those that are contributing
> >>>>> but are not committers yet, or may chose not to become
> >>> committers. Names
> >>>
> >>>>> are in alphabetical order by first
> >>>>> name - just copied format from Geronimo. An then of
> coarse
> >>> list our
> >>>>> mentors.
> >>>>>
> >>>> I realize that you are basing this on what Geronimo has
> done, but
> >>>> personally, I think it's a bad idea to list the organizations on
> >>>> the project's people page. Most people seem to want to
> know this
> >>>> on the proposal, but I think it might send the wrong message to
> >>>> someone who doesn't know much about Apache and is
> browsing the project's site.
> >>>>
> >>>> It also seems to be a little tricky to me to decide which
> >>>> committers to list. Unless a committer says they are no
> longer active or don't
> >>>> want to be listed, I would think you should list them
> all.
> >>> You could
> >>>
> >>>> keep a separate list of PPMC members (which were elected
> based on
> >>>> their history as being the active committers).
> >>>>
> >>>> Aside from getting the Incubator logo on the page (which I think
> >>>> really does need to be done), all of this is just my personal
> >>>> suggestion.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> Thanks, on the last topic I was in two minds about how to
> do that so
> >>> I will start a new thread on the topic with some additional
> >>> questions I have. Glad to see someone read my note - I
> was hoping it
> >>> would be discussed.
> >>>
> >>> Regards
> >>> Carl.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> >
>
>
Re: Web site
Posted by Carl Trieloff <cc...@redhat.com>.
I see that the exported site is correct with logo's - but the wiki pages
don't have the logo's correctly.
Usually export fixes this, but this time it did not. If anyone knows why
please point me in the right direction...
correct on public pages
http://cwiki.apache.org/qpid/index.html
no logo's on wiki pages
http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/qpid/Index
Carl.
Carl Trieloff wrote:
>
> incubator logos done, next step is text.
>
> Johnson, Eric wrote:
>> Carl,
>> One approach would to add the headers and footers to the autoexport
>> template. This way they are consistent and do not necessarily need to be
>> put in the live wiki.
>> Cheers,
>> Eric
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Carl Trieloff [mailto:cctrieloff@redhat.com] Sent: Thursday,
>>> January 11, 2007 8:57 AM
>>> To: qpid-dev@incubator.apache.org
>>> Subject: Re: Web site
>>>
>>> Cliff Schmidt wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 1/9/07, Carl Trieloff <cc...@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> 1. I have updated the home page to have the disclaimer
>>> line and link
>>>>> to status page
>>>>>
>>>> I just took a quick look at what other podling home pages have. It
>>>> looks to me like most of them include the Incubator logo (see
>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/images/apache-incubator-logo.png). I
>>>> think you should definitely add this somewhere.
>>>>
>>>> Some of them also include the full disclaimer text on the home page
>>>> like http://incubator.apache.org/ode/. Some of them
>>> include both the
>>>> logo and the disclaimer text, like
>>> http://incubator.apache.org/xap and
>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/uima/.
>>>>
>>> Thanks, I was trying to see if I could get the incubator logo into
>>> the navigation bar so that it shows up on every page. I need to play
>>> with that a bit. I also wanted to try create a footer or header that
>>> had the incubator text.
>>>
>>> If I can't get that working in the next few days I will break down
>>> and just paste it onto the home home.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>> 2. The license has been added to the project.
>>>>>
>>>> There seems to be an emoticon from the "(i)" in the license
>>> text. You
>>>
>>>> could always link directly to
>>>> http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0, although that
>>> would leave
>>>
>>>> your site. And I don't think this is necessary right now; but, as I
>>>> mentioned before, it would be nice to eventually link to something
>>>> that includes all the relevant licenses, as is required in the
>>>> distribution's LICENSE file.
>>>>
>>> Fixed on wiki - thanks, will publish in a bit.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>> 3. I have created the people page. I used the Geronimo template and
>>>>> modified a bit given our
>>>>> incubator status. Please update your origination if you
>>> want it. I got
>>>
>>>>> the list of names by working though
>>>>> the achieve to see who has substantial contributed
>>> (definition of this
>>>
>>>>> could be debated, but I just looked for
>>>>> consistent list & code contributions). I also provided a
>>> section for
>>>
>>>>> those that are contributing
>>>>> but are not committers yet, or may chose not to become
>>> committers. Names
>>>
>>>>> are in alphabetical order by first
>>>>> name - just copied format from Geronimo. An then of coarse
>>> list our
>>>>> mentors.
>>>>>
>>>> I realize that you are basing this on what Geronimo has done, but
>>>> personally, I think it's a bad idea to list the organizations on the
>>>> project's people page. Most people seem to want to know this on the
>>>> proposal, but I think it might send the wrong message to someone who
>>>> doesn't know much about Apache and is browsing the project's site.
>>>>
>>>> It also seems to be a little tricky to me to decide which committers
>>>> to list. Unless a committer says they are no longer active or don't
>>>> want to be listed, I would think you should list them all.
>>> You could
>>>
>>>> keep a separate list of PPMC members (which were elected based on
>>>> their history as being the active committers).
>>>>
>>>> Aside from getting the Incubator logo on the page (which I think
>>>> really does need to be done), all of this is just my personal
>>>> suggestion.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Thanks, on the last topic I was in two minds about how to do that so
>>> I will start a new
>>> thread on the topic with some additional questions I have. Glad to
>>> see someone read my
>>> note - I was hoping it would be discussed.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Carl.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
Re: Web site
Posted by Carl Trieloff <cc...@redhat.com>.
incubator logos done, next step is text.
Johnson, Eric wrote:
> Carl,
> One approach would to add the headers and footers to the autoexport
> template. This way they are consistent and do not necessarily need to be
> put in the live wiki.
> Cheers,
> Eric
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Carl Trieloff [mailto:cctrieloff@redhat.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 8:57 AM
>> To: qpid-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: Web site
>>
>> Cliff Schmidt wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/9/07, Carl Trieloff <cc...@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> 1. I have updated the home page to have the disclaimer
>>>>
>> line and link
>>
>>>> to status page
>>>>
>>> I just took a quick look at what other podling home pages have. It
>>> looks to me like most of them include the Incubator logo (see
>>> http://incubator.apache.org/images/apache-incubator-logo.png). I
>>> think you should definitely add this somewhere.
>>>
>>> Some of them also include the full disclaimer text on the home page
>>> like http://incubator.apache.org/ode/. Some of them
>>>
>> include both the
>>
>>> logo and the disclaimer text, like
>>>
>> http://incubator.apache.org/xap and
>>
>>> http://incubator.apache.org/uima/.
>>>
>> Thanks, I was trying to see if I could get the incubator logo
>> into the navigation bar so that it shows up on every page. I
>> need to play with that a bit. I also wanted to try create a
>> footer or header that had the incubator text.
>>
>> If I can't get that working in the next few days I will break
>> down and just paste it onto the home home.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>> 2. The license has been added to the project.
>>>>
>>> There seems to be an emoticon from the "(i)" in the license
>>>
>> text. You
>>
>>> could always link directly to
>>> http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0, although that
>>>
>> would leave
>>
>>> your site. And I don't think this is necessary right now; but, as I
>>> mentioned before, it would be nice to eventually link to something
>>> that includes all the relevant licenses, as is required in the
>>> distribution's LICENSE file.
>>>
>> Fixed on wiki - thanks, will publish in a bit.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>> 3. I have created the people page. I used the Geronimo template and
>>>> modified a bit given our
>>>> incubator status. Please update your origination if you
>>>>
>> want it. I got
>>
>>>> the list of names by working though
>>>> the achieve to see who has substantial contributed
>>>>
>> (definition of this
>>
>>>> could be debated, but I just looked for
>>>> consistent list & code contributions). I also provided a
>>>>
>> section for
>>
>>>> those that are contributing
>>>> but are not committers yet, or may chose not to become
>>>>
>> committers. Names
>>
>>>> are in alphabetical order by first
>>>> name - just copied format from Geronimo. An then of coarse
>>>>
>> list our
>>
>>>> mentors.
>>>>
>>> I realize that you are basing this on what Geronimo has done, but
>>> personally, I think it's a bad idea to list the organizations on the
>>> project's people page. Most people seem to want to know this on the
>>> proposal, but I think it might send the wrong message to someone who
>>> doesn't know much about Apache and is browsing the project's site.
>>>
>>> It also seems to be a little tricky to me to decide which committers
>>> to list. Unless a committer says they are no longer active or don't
>>> want to be listed, I would think you should list them all.
>>>
>> You could
>>
>>> keep a separate list of PPMC members (which were elected based on
>>> their history as being the active committers).
>>>
>>> Aside from getting the Incubator logo on the page (which I think
>>> really does need to be done), all of this is just my personal
>>> suggestion.
>>>
>>>
>> Thanks, on the last topic I was in two minds about how to do
>> that so I
>> will start a new
>> thread on the topic with some additional questions I have.
>> Glad to see
>> someone read my
>> note - I was hoping it would be discussed.
>>
>> Regards
>> Carl.
>>
>>
>>
RE: Web site
Posted by "Johnson, Eric" <Er...@iona.com>.
Carl,
One approach would to add the headers and footers to the autoexport
template. This way they are consistent and do not necessarily need to be
put in the live wiki.
Cheers,
Eric
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Carl Trieloff [mailto:cctrieloff@redhat.com]
> Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 8:57 AM
> To: qpid-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Web site
>
> Cliff Schmidt wrote:
> > On 1/9/07, Carl Trieloff <cc...@redhat.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> 1. I have updated the home page to have the disclaimer
> line and link
> >> to status page
> >
> > I just took a quick look at what other podling home pages have. It
> > looks to me like most of them include the Incubator logo (see
> > http://incubator.apache.org/images/apache-incubator-logo.png). I
> > think you should definitely add this somewhere.
> >
> > Some of them also include the full disclaimer text on the home page
> > like http://incubator.apache.org/ode/. Some of them
> include both the
> > logo and the disclaimer text, like
> http://incubator.apache.org/xap and
> > http://incubator.apache.org/uima/.
>
>
> Thanks, I was trying to see if I could get the incubator logo
> into the navigation bar so that it shows up on every page. I
> need to play with that a bit. I also wanted to try create a
> footer or header that had the incubator text.
>
> If I can't get that working in the next few days I will break
> down and just paste it onto the home home.
>
>
>
> >
> >> 2. The license has been added to the project.
> >
> > There seems to be an emoticon from the "(i)" in the license
> text. You
> > could always link directly to
> > http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0, although that
> would leave
> > your site. And I don't think this is necessary right now; but, as I
> > mentioned before, it would be nice to eventually link to something
> > that includes all the relevant licenses, as is required in the
> > distribution's LICENSE file.
>
>
> Fixed on wiki - thanks, will publish in a bit.
>
>
>
> >
> >> 3. I have created the people page. I used the Geronimo template and
> >> modified a bit given our
> >> incubator status. Please update your origination if you
> want it. I got
> >> the list of names by working though
> >> the achieve to see who has substantial contributed
> (definition of this
> >> could be debated, but I just looked for
> >> consistent list & code contributions). I also provided a
> section for
> >> those that are contributing
> >> but are not committers yet, or may chose not to become
> committers. Names
> >> are in alphabetical order by first
> >> name - just copied format from Geronimo. An then of coarse
> list our
> >> mentors.
> >
> > I realize that you are basing this on what Geronimo has done, but
> > personally, I think it's a bad idea to list the organizations on the
> > project's people page. Most people seem to want to know this on the
> > proposal, but I think it might send the wrong message to someone who
> > doesn't know much about Apache and is browsing the project's site.
> >
> > It also seems to be a little tricky to me to decide which committers
> > to list. Unless a committer says they are no longer active or don't
> > want to be listed, I would think you should list them all.
> You could
> > keep a separate list of PPMC members (which were elected based on
> > their history as being the active committers).
> >
> > Aside from getting the Incubator logo on the page (which I think
> > really does need to be done), all of this is just my personal
> > suggestion.
> >
>
>
> Thanks, on the last topic I was in two minds about how to do
> that so I
> will start a new
> thread on the topic with some additional questions I have.
> Glad to see
> someone read my
> note - I was hoping it would be discussed.
>
> Regards
> Carl.
>
>
Re: Web site
Posted by Carl Trieloff <cc...@redhat.com>.
Cliff Schmidt wrote:
> On 1/9/07, Carl Trieloff <cc...@redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>> 1. I have updated the home page to have the disclaimer line and link to
>> status page
>
> I just took a quick look at what other podling home pages have. It
> looks to me like most of them include the Incubator logo (see
> http://incubator.apache.org/images/apache-incubator-logo.png). I
> think you should definitely add this somewhere.
>
> Some of them also include the full disclaimer text on the home page
> like http://incubator.apache.org/ode/. Some of them include both the
> logo and the disclaimer text, like http://incubator.apache.org/xap and
> http://incubator.apache.org/uima/.
Thanks, I was trying to see if I could get the incubator logo into the
navigation bar so that it shows up on
every page. I need to play with that a bit. I also wanted to try create
a footer or header that had the incubator text.
If I can't get that working in the next few days I will break down and
just paste it onto the home home.
>
>> 2. The license has been added to the project.
>
> There seems to be an emoticon from the "(i)" in the license text. You
> could always link directly to
> http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0, although that would leave
> your site. And I don't think this is necessary right now; but, as I
> mentioned before, it would be nice to eventually link to something
> that includes all the relevant licenses, as is required in the
> distribution's LICENSE file.
Fixed on wiki - thanks, will publish in a bit.
>
>> 3. I have created the people page. I used the Geronimo template and
>> modified a bit given our
>> incubator status. Please update your origination if you want it. I got
>> the list of names by working though
>> the achieve to see who has substantial contributed (definition of this
>> could be debated, but I just looked for
>> consistent list & code contributions). I also provided a section for
>> those that are contributing
>> but are not committers yet, or may chose not to become committers. Names
>> are in alphabetical order by first
>> name - just copied format from Geronimo. An then of coarse list our
>> mentors.
>
> I realize that you are basing this on what Geronimo has done, but
> personally, I think it's a bad idea to list the organizations on the
> project's people page. Most people seem to want to know this on the
> proposal, but I think it might send the wrong message to someone who
> doesn't know much about Apache and is browsing the project's site.
>
> It also seems to be a little tricky to me to decide which committers
> to list. Unless a committer says they are no longer active or don't
> want to be listed, I would think you should list them all. You could
> keep a separate list of PPMC members (which were elected based on
> their history as being the active committers).
>
> Aside from getting the Incubator logo on the page (which I think
> really does need to be done), all of this is just my personal
> suggestion.
>
Thanks, on the last topic I was in two minds about how to do that so I
will start a new
thread on the topic with some additional questions I have. Glad to see
someone read my
note - I was hoping it would be discussed.
Regards
Carl.
Re: Web site
Posted by Cliff Schmidt <cl...@gmail.com>.
On 1/9/07, Carl Trieloff <cc...@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> 1. I have updated the home page to have the disclaimer line and link to
> status page
I just took a quick look at what other podling home pages have. It
looks to me like most of them include the Incubator logo (see
http://incubator.apache.org/images/apache-incubator-logo.png). I
think you should definitely add this somewhere.
Some of them also include the full disclaimer text on the home page
like http://incubator.apache.org/ode/. Some of them include both the
logo and the disclaimer text, like http://incubator.apache.org/xap and
http://incubator.apache.org/uima/.
> 2. The license has been added to the project.
There seems to be an emoticon from the "(i)" in the license text. You
could always link directly to
http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0, although that would leave
your site. And I don't think this is necessary right now; but, as I
mentioned before, it would be nice to eventually link to something
that includes all the relevant licenses, as is required in the
distribution's LICENSE file.
> 3. I have created the people page. I used the Geronimo template and
> modified a bit given our
> incubator status. Please update your origination if you want it. I got
> the list of names by working though
> the achieve to see who has substantial contributed (definition of this
> could be debated, but I just looked for
> consistent list & code contributions). I also provided a section for
> those that are contributing
> but are not committers yet, or may chose not to become committers. Names
> are in alphabetical order by first
> name - just copied format from Geronimo. An then of coarse list our mentors.
I realize that you are basing this on what Geronimo has done, but
personally, I think it's a bad idea to list the organizations on the
project's people page. Most people seem to want to know this on the
proposal, but I think it might send the wrong message to someone who
doesn't know much about Apache and is browsing the project's site.
It also seems to be a little tricky to me to decide which committers
to list. Unless a committer says they are no longer active or don't
want to be listed, I would think you should list them all. You could
keep a separate list of PPMC members (which were elected based on
their history as being the active committers).
Aside from getting the Incubator logo on the page (which I think
really does need to be done), all of this is just my personal
suggestion.
Cliff
> Carl Trieloff wrote:
> >
> > Cliff,
> >
> > Thanks, I will add the license page, I add that and maybe also link
> > the notices and readme. the one question that I
> > have is the disclaimer. I placed that on a page called status
> > http://cwiki.apache.org/qpid/project-status.html. Can I just
> > link this prominently from the home page?
> >
> > Carl.
> >
> >
> > Cliff Schmidt wrote:
> >> On 1/8/07, Carl Trieloff <cc...@redhat.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I have started to update the site based on the list discussion we had
> >>> end of last year. http://incubator.apache.org/qpid/ now redirects to
> >>> the
> >>> cwiki. thanks to some help from Dan I have also added in left side
> >>> navigation, created some of the web site pages we need and fix the
> >>> navigation for the site export format. The wiki as 5:30 EST has been
> >>> exported to the static html pages.
> >>>
> >>> Feedback on what is done so far is welcome. I should hopefully get art
> >>> from our design team soon and will try get most of the remaining move
> >>> around and basic pages in soon.
> >>
> >> Many podling sites include the standard incubation disclaimer on the
> >> home pages; however, I don't see that written as a requirement
> >> anywhere.
> >>
> >> BTW, there are a few guidelines at
> >> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html. One thing I noticed
> >> missing that you probably want to add is a link to the Apache License.
> >> Even better would be a link to a copy of you actual LICENSE file
> >> (with the mention of the other relevant licenses) maybe on the
> >> Download page.
> >>
> >> Cliff
> >
>
>
Re: Web site
Posted by Carl Trieloff <cc...@redhat.com>.
1. I have updated the home page to have the disclaimer line and link to
status page
2. The license has been added to the project.
3. I have created the people page. I used the Geronimo template and
modified a bit given our
incubator status. Please update your origination if you want it. I got
the list of names by working though
the achieve to see who has substantial contributed (definition of this
could be debated, but I just looked for
consistent list & code contributions). I also provided a section for
those that are contributing
but are not committers yet, or may chose not to become committers. Names
are in alphabetical order by first
name - just copied format from Geronimo. An then of coarse list our mentors.
I have not yet published these pages, so please go update you name if
needed. I will publish them latter
in the week
Enjoy
Carl.
Carl Trieloff wrote:
>
> Cliff,
>
> Thanks, I will add the license page, I add that and maybe also link
> the notices and readme. the one question that I
> have is the disclaimer. I placed that on a page called status
> http://cwiki.apache.org/qpid/project-status.html. Can I just
> link this prominently from the home page?
>
> Carl.
>
>
> Cliff Schmidt wrote:
>> On 1/8/07, Carl Trieloff <cc...@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I have started to update the site based on the list discussion we had
>>> end of last year. http://incubator.apache.org/qpid/ now redirects to
>>> the
>>> cwiki. thanks to some help from Dan I have also added in left side
>>> navigation, created some of the web site pages we need and fix the
>>> navigation for the site export format. The wiki as 5:30 EST has been
>>> exported to the static html pages.
>>>
>>> Feedback on what is done so far is welcome. I should hopefully get art
>>> from our design team soon and will try get most of the remaining move
>>> around and basic pages in soon.
>>
>> Many podling sites include the standard incubation disclaimer on the
>> home pages; however, I don't see that written as a requirement
>> anywhere.
>>
>> BTW, there are a few guidelines at
>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html. One thing I noticed
>> missing that you probably want to add is a link to the Apache License.
>> Even better would be a link to a copy of you actual LICENSE file
>> (with the mention of the other relevant licenses) maybe on the
>> Download page.
>>
>> Cliff
>
Re: Web site
Posted by Carl Trieloff <cc...@redhat.com>.
Cliff,
Thanks, I will add the license page, I add that and maybe also link the
notices and readme. the one question that I
have is the disclaimer. I placed that on a page called status
http://cwiki.apache.org/qpid/project-status.html. Can I just
link this prominently from the home page?
Carl.
Cliff Schmidt wrote:
> On 1/8/07, Carl Trieloff <cc...@redhat.com> wrote:
>>
>> I have started to update the site based on the list discussion we had
>> end of last year. http://incubator.apache.org/qpid/ now redirects to the
>> cwiki. thanks to some help from Dan I have also added in left side
>> navigation, created some of the web site pages we need and fix the
>> navigation for the site export format. The wiki as 5:30 EST has been
>> exported to the static html pages.
>>
>> Feedback on what is done so far is welcome. I should hopefully get art
>> from our design team soon and will try get most of the remaining move
>> around and basic pages in soon.
>
> Many podling sites include the standard incubation disclaimer on the
> home pages; however, I don't see that written as a requirement
> anywhere.
>
> BTW, there are a few guidelines at
> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html. One thing I noticed
> missing that you probably want to add is a link to the Apache License.
> Even better would be a link to a copy of you actual LICENSE file
> (with the mention of the other relevant licenses) maybe on the
> Download page.
>
> Cliff
Re: Web site
Posted by Cliff Schmidt <cl...@gmail.com>.
On 1/8/07, Carl Trieloff <cc...@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> I have started to update the site based on the list discussion we had
> end of last year. http://incubator.apache.org/qpid/ now redirects to the
> cwiki. thanks to some help from Dan I have also added in left side
> navigation, created some of the web site pages we need and fix the
> navigation for the site export format. The wiki as 5:30 EST has been
> exported to the static html pages.
>
> Feedback on what is done so far is welcome. I should hopefully get art
> from our design team soon and will try get most of the remaining move
> around and basic pages in soon.
Many podling sites include the standard incubation disclaimer on the
home pages; however, I don't see that written as a requirement
anywhere.
BTW, there are a few guidelines at
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/sites.html. One thing I noticed
missing that you probably want to add is a link to the Apache License.
Even better would be a link to a copy of you actual LICENSE file
(with the mention of the other relevant licenses) maybe on the
Download page.
Cliff