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[jira] Created: (INFRA-2109) EZMLM is messed up!
EZMLM is messed up!
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Key: INFRA-2109
URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-2109
Project: Infrastructure
Issue Type: Bug
Security Level: public (Regular issues)
Components: Mailing Lists
Reporter: Niclas Hedhman
I am using mail aliases, so that I can send email FROM:niclas@hedhman.org using the GMail client. This is a documented feature at GMail.
Now, when I am sending subscription emails to Apache MLs, I need to use the extended version (annoying but have been working often) as dev-subscribe-niclas=hedhman.org@abc.apache.org and emails will arrive.
However, whenever I send an email from the GMail client, EZMLM will use the "Return-Path:" header to determine if I am subscribed or not. So, for mailing lists with a moderator, they end up adding my GMail address to the allowed posters list, but for lists without moderator, I am just not allowed to post, message bounces and if I am at that point trying to subscribe again (like above) it will tell me that I am already subscribed.
I have no idea why the FROM field is not used, but I have reached the boiling point of what to tolerate. I don't know if this is a configuration of EZMLM or if it is hard coded into it, but whatever it is, I need to change this. I am cut out from posting to community@apache.org for this same reason (subscribed as niclas@apache.org as stipulated by instructions given) and now at least one other list is in the same situation.
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[jira] Commented: (INFRA-2109) EZMLM is messed up!
Posted by "Niclas Hedhman (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Niclas Hedhman commented on INFRA-2109:
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And the 'resubscription';
Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the
pivot-user@incubator.apache.org mailing list.
Acknowledgment: The address
niclas@hedhman.org
was already on the pivot-user mailing list when I received
your request, and remains a subscriber.
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> Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the
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>
> To confirm that you would like
>
> =A0 niclas@hedhman.org
>
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>
> Usually, this happens when you just hit the "reply" button.
> If this does not work, simply copy the address and paste it into
> the "To:" field of a new message.
>
> This confirmation serves two purposes. First, it verifies that I am able
> to get mail through to you. Second, it protects you in case someone
> forges a subscription request in your name.
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> Please note that ALL Apache dev- and user- mailing lists are publicly
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>
> To get an index with subject and author for messages 123-456 , mail:
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>
> They are always returned as sets of 100, max 2000 per request,
> so you'll actually get 100-499.
>
> To receive all messages with the same subject as message 12345,
> send a short message to:
> =A0 <pi...@incubator.apache.org>
>
> The messages should contain one line or word of text to avoid being
> treated as sp@m, but I will ignore their content.
> Only the ADDRESS you send to is important.
>
> You can start a subscription for an alternate address,
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> address (with '=3D' instead of '@') after the command word:
> <pi...@incubator.apache.org>
>
> To stop subscription for this address, mail:
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>
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>
> If despite following these instructions, you do not get the
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> EZMLM is messed up!
> -------------------
>
> Key: INFRA-2109
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-2109
> Project: Infrastructure
> Issue Type: Bug
> Security Level: public(Regular issues)
> Components: Mailing Lists
> Reporter: Niclas Hedhman
>
> I am using mail aliases, so that I can send email FROM:niclas@hedhman.org using the GMail client. This is a documented feature at GMail.
> Now, when I am sending subscription emails to Apache MLs, I need to use the extended version (annoying but have been working often) as dev-subscribe-niclas=hedhman.org@abc.apache.org and emails will arrive.
> However, whenever I send an email from the GMail client, EZMLM will use the "Return-Path:" header to determine if I am subscribed or not. So, for mailing lists with a moderator, they end up adding my GMail address to the allowed posters list, but for lists without moderator, I am just not allowed to post, message bounces and if I am at that point trying to subscribe again (like above) it will tell me that I am already subscribed.
> I have no idea why the FROM field is not used, but I have reached the boiling point of what to tolerate. I don't know if this is a configuration of EZMLM or if it is hard coded into it, but whatever it is, I need to change this. I am cut out from posting to community@apache.org for this same reason (subscribed as niclas@apache.org as stipulated by instructions given) and now at least one other list is in the same situation.
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[jira] Closed: (INFRA-2109) EZMLM is messed up!
Posted by "Joe Schaefer (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Joe Schaefer closed INFRA-2109.
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Resolution: Won't Fix
See INFRA-2171
> EZMLM is messed up!
> -------------------
>
> Key: INFRA-2109
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-2109
> Project: Infrastructure
> Issue Type: Bug
> Security Level: public(Regular issues)
> Components: Mailing Lists
> Reporter: Niclas Hedhman
>
> I am using mail aliases, so that I can send email FROM:niclas@hedhman.org using the GMail client. This is a documented feature at GMail.
> Now, when I am sending subscription emails to Apache MLs, I need to use the extended version (annoying but have been working often) as dev-subscribe-niclas=hedhman.org@abc.apache.org and emails will arrive.
> However, whenever I send an email from the GMail client, EZMLM will use the "Return-Path:" header to determine if I am subscribed or not. So, for mailing lists with a moderator, they end up adding my GMail address to the allowed posters list, but for lists without moderator, I am just not allowed to post, message bounces and if I am at that point trying to subscribe again (like above) it will tell me that I am already subscribed.
> I have no idea why the FROM field is not used, but I have reached the boiling point of what to tolerate. I don't know if this is a configuration of EZMLM or if it is hard coded into it, but whatever it is, I need to change this. I am cut out from posting to community@apache.org for this same reason (subscribed as niclas@apache.org as stipulated by instructions given) and now at least one other list is in the same situation.
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[jira] Commented: (INFRA-2109) EZMLM is messed up!
Posted by "Justin Mason (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Justin Mason commented on INFRA-2109:
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same thing here.
It's worth noting that ezmlm is increasingly out of step with how SMTP is used on the internet these days, where this issue is concerned. pretty much every MLM would treat the "From:" address as sender identity for purposes of mailing list membership determination.
> EZMLM is messed up!
> -------------------
>
> Key: INFRA-2109
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-2109
> Project: Infrastructure
> Issue Type: Bug
> Security Level: public(Regular issues)
> Components: Mailing Lists
> Reporter: Niclas Hedhman
>
> I am using mail aliases, so that I can send email FROM:niclas@hedhman.org using the GMail client. This is a documented feature at GMail.
> Now, when I am sending subscription emails to Apache MLs, I need to use the extended version (annoying but have been working often) as dev-subscribe-niclas=hedhman.org@abc.apache.org and emails will arrive.
> However, whenever I send an email from the GMail client, EZMLM will use the "Return-Path:" header to determine if I am subscribed or not. So, for mailing lists with a moderator, they end up adding my GMail address to the allowed posters list, but for lists without moderator, I am just not allowed to post, message bounces and if I am at that point trying to subscribe again (like above) it will tell me that I am already subscribed.
> I have no idea why the FROM field is not used, but I have reached the boiling point of what to tolerate. I don't know if this is a configuration of EZMLM or if it is hard coded into it, but whatever it is, I need to change this. I am cut out from posting to community@apache.org for this same reason (subscribed as niclas@apache.org as stipulated by instructions given) and now at least one other list is in the same situation.
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[jira] Commented: (INFRA-2109) EZMLM is messed up!
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<pquerna> We have discussed migrating to mlmmj from ezmlm, but it really lacks active volunters to undergo such a large change to the email infrastructure.
> EZMLM is messed up!
> -------------------
>
> Key: INFRA-2109
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-2109
> Project: Infrastructure
> Issue Type: Bug
> Security Level: public(Regular issues)
> Components: Mailing Lists
> Reporter: Niclas Hedhman
>
> I am using mail aliases, so that I can send email FROM:niclas@hedhman.org using the GMail client. This is a documented feature at GMail.
> Now, when I am sending subscription emails to Apache MLs, I need to use the extended version (annoying but have been working often) as dev-subscribe-niclas=hedhman.org@abc.apache.org and emails will arrive.
> However, whenever I send an email from the GMail client, EZMLM will use the "Return-Path:" header to determine if I am subscribed or not. So, for mailing lists with a moderator, they end up adding my GMail address to the allowed posters list, but for lists without moderator, I am just not allowed to post, message bounces and if I am at that point trying to subscribe again (like above) it will tell me that I am already subscribed.
> I have no idea why the FROM field is not used, but I have reached the boiling point of what to tolerate. I don't know if this is a configuration of EZMLM or if it is hard coded into it, but whatever it is, I need to change this. I am cut out from posting to community@apache.org for this same reason (subscribed as niclas@apache.org as stipulated by instructions given) and now at least one other list is in the same situation.
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[jira] Commented: (INFRA-2109) EZMLM is messed up!
Posted by "Niclas Hedhman (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Niclas Hedhman commented on INFRA-2109:
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The bounced message;
Hi. This is the qmail-send program at apache.org.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.
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Subject: Struggling with TablePane
From: Niclas Hedhman <ni...@hedhman.org>
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Guys,
I am struggling with TablePane, as it consistently refuse to work in a
fashion that I find "natural".
If I add() the ImageView instances to it, they all show up in cell
[0,0], and if I call setCellComponent() I get a
IndexOutOfBoundsException, even though I have added 2 columns and 1
row (in that order) before trying to set the cell.
But before starting on the real deal, I created an example where the
Rows were added before the Columns, and that worked.
How is it really intended to work?
Cheers
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> EZMLM is messed up!
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> Key: INFRA-2109
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-2109
> Project: Infrastructure
> Issue Type: Bug
> Security Level: public(Regular issues)
> Components: Mailing Lists
> Reporter: Niclas Hedhman
>
> I am using mail aliases, so that I can send email FROM:niclas@hedhman.org using the GMail client. This is a documented feature at GMail.
> Now, when I am sending subscription emails to Apache MLs, I need to use the extended version (annoying but have been working often) as dev-subscribe-niclas=hedhman.org@abc.apache.org and emails will arrive.
> However, whenever I send an email from the GMail client, EZMLM will use the "Return-Path:" header to determine if I am subscribed or not. So, for mailing lists with a moderator, they end up adding my GMail address to the allowed posters list, but for lists without moderator, I am just not allowed to post, message bounces and if I am at that point trying to subscribe again (like above) it will tell me that I am already subscribed.
> I have no idea why the FROM field is not used, but I have reached the boiling point of what to tolerate. I don't know if this is a configuration of EZMLM or if it is hard coded into it, but whatever it is, I need to change this. I am cut out from posting to community@apache.org for this same reason (subscribed as niclas@apache.org as stipulated by instructions given) and now at least one other list is in the same situation.
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