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Posted to user@lenya.apache.org by "Gregor J. Rothfuss" <gr...@apache.org> on 2004/05/12 21:17:20 UTC
Re: Fixing the menu.js
Antonio Gallardo wrote:
> The line that cause Mozilla to suddenly close all open windows is the line
> 104:
>
> event.cancelBubble=true
>
> Searching a little on the Net I think the problem is described here:
>
> http://www.cross-browser.com/x/examples/handleevent_test.html
>
> Seems like Lenya is too IE oriented, right? ;-)
hey thanks! yep lenya was originally written with an IE audience in
mind.. many years ago. imo the menu should be redone.
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Re: Fixing the menu.js
Posted by "Gregor J. Rothfuss" <gr...@apache.org>.
Andreas Hartmann wrote:
> Jan is already a XIndice committer and working with Lenya for some
> months now, contributing quite a lot of useful thoughts, I already
> applied some of his patches. But of course this depends on his
> opinion and the ones of the other committers :)
if he keeps sending patches i don't see why not :)
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Re: Fixing the menu.js
Posted by Andreas Hartmann <an...@apache.org>.
Antonio Gallardo wrote:
> Andreas Hartmann dijo:
[...]
>>
>>- ask Jan if he would like to maintain the XUL menu
>>- propose him as a committer if he agrees
>
>
> Hi:
>
> I think people can send bug fixes and enhancements to the apache projects.
> In that way, I don't see a reason to propose him as a committer.
OK, in this case I agree with you. But when it comes
to bigger components, e.g., the workflow engine, I wouldn't
like to apply a patch for every change to the code ...
> But I am
> newbie in Lenya and don't know much people here. I think you have more
> vision than me to tell if he can be proposed as an Apache committer or
> not.
Jan is already a XIndice committer and working with Lenya for some
months now, contributing quite a lot of useful thoughts, I already
applied some of his patches. But of course this depends on his
opinion and the ones of the other committers :)
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Re: Fixing the menu.js
Posted by Antonio Gallardo <ag...@agssa.net>.
Andreas Hartmann dijo:
> Antonio Gallardo wrote:
>
>> Thorsten Scherler dijo:
>>
>>>Hello Antonio,
>>>
>>>since you are using Mozilla download the xul menu and everything will be
>>>fine again ;-)
>>>http://metzner.org/projects/lenya/.
>>
>>
>> Thanks Thorsten.
>>
>> A question: Why this is not part of lenya?
>
> I think there were some contradictions regarding maintenance.
> But maybe it would make sense to
>
> - ask Jan if he would like to maintain the XUL menu
> - propose him as a committer if he agrees
Hi:
I think people can send bug fixes and enhancements to the apache projects.
In that way, I don't see a reason to propose him as a committer. But I am
newbie in Lenya and don't know much people here. I think you have more
vision than me to tell if he can be proposed as an Apache committer or
not.
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Re: Fixing the menu.js
Posted by Andreas Hartmann <an...@apache.org>.
Antonio Gallardo wrote:
> Thorsten Scherler dijo:
>
>>Hello Antonio,
>>
>>since you are using Mozilla download the xul menu and everything will be
>>fine again ;-)
>>http://metzner.org/projects/lenya/.
>
>
> Thanks Thorsten.
>
> A question: Why this is not part of lenya?
I think there were some contradictions regarding maintenance.
But maybe it would make sense to
- ask Jan if he would like to maintain the XUL menu
- propose him as a committer if he agrees
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Re: Fixing the menu.js
Posted by Rolf Kulemann <ro...@apache.org>.
On Thu, 2004-05-13 at 09:16, Antonio Gallardo wrote:
> Thorsten Scherler dijo:
> > Hello Antonio,
> >
> > since you are using Mozilla download the xul menu and everything will be
> > fine again ;-)
> > http://metzner.org/projects/lenya/.
>
> Thanks Thorsten.
>
> A question: Why this is not part of lenya?
I guess it is a "technology outlook" patch....
IIRC we agreed to do/integrate some XUL/XAML stuff for post 1.2.
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Re: Fixing the menu.js
Posted by Michael Wechner <mi...@wyona.com>.
Christian Stocker wrote:
>
>
>
> I think, that you shouldn't commit unfinished, not-really-tested stuff
> into a theoretically frozen branch.
I wouldn't switch it on (the regular user wouldn't know that it's there,
as long it's not really finished), but the
committers can work on it together. Right now it's hard to work on it
collaboratively.
>
> IM (not so and from an outsiders view) HO, you should branch 1.2 in
> CVS pretty soon, and go ahead with new features in HEAD. Otherwise you
> never get a stable product out. (I know about the pain of maintaining
> 2 branches..)
agreed, but I think we would want to have XUL within 1.2.x also.
But I hear what you are saying ;-)
Michi
>
> </rant> and just my 2 cents ;)
>
> chregu
>
>>
>> Michi
>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
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Re: Fixing the menu.js
Posted by Rolf Kulemann <ro...@apache.org>.
On Thu, 2004-05-13 at 09:36, Christian Stocker wrote:
> On 13.5.2004 9:22 Uhr, Michael Wechner wrote:
>
> > Antonio Gallardo wrote:
> >
> >> Thorsten Scherler dijo:
> >>
> >>
> >>> Hello Antonio,
> >>>
> >>> since you are using Mozilla download the xul menu and everything will be
> >>> fine again ;-)
> >>> http://metzner.org/projects/lenya/.
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks Thorsten.
> >>
> >> A question: Why this is not part of lenya?
> >>
> >>
> >
> > it's not finished yet (workflow, username, etc. are not being shown),
> > but I would
> > suggest that we include it nevertheless and tell people where to switch
> > between the current the XUL version.
> >
> > This would allow committers to help finish the XUL version ;-)
> >
> > WDTY?
>
> I think, that you shouldn't commit unfinished, not-really-tested stuff
> into a theoretically frozen branch.
>
> IM (not so and from an outsiders view) HO, you should branch 1.2 in CVS
> pretty soon, and go ahead with new features in HEAD. Otherwise you never
> get a stable product out. (I know about the pain of maintaining 2
> branches..)
>
> </rant> and just my 2 cents ;)
IMHO, u are absolutely right !
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Re: Fixing the menu.js
Posted by Thorsten Scherler <th...@juntadeandalucia.es>.
Christian Stocker wrote:
>
>
> On 13.5.2004 9:22 Uhr, Michael Wechner wrote:
>
>> Antonio Gallardo wrote:
>>
>>> Thorsten Scherler dijo:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hello Antonio,
>>>>
>>>> since you are using Mozilla download the xul menu and everything
>>>> will be
>>>> fine again ;-)
>>>> http://metzner.org/projects/lenya/.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks Thorsten.
>>>
>>> A question: Why this is not part of lenya?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> it's not finished yet (workflow, username, etc. are not being shown),
>> but I would
>> suggest that we include it nevertheless and tell people where to switch
>> between the current the XUL version.
>>
>> This would allow committers to help finish the XUL version ;-)
>>
>> WDTY?
>
>
> I think, that you shouldn't commit unfinished, not-really-tested stuff
> into a theoretically frozen branch.
>
I aggree on that we should wait to check that in after the weekend.
By there we could have done some testing. It don't fell right to check
that in right now!
This is why Jan has put that on the webpage!
Everybody who would like to test it please do so and report back.
If we have some feedback and experince we can include it!
my 2 cents
thorsten
> IM (not so and from an outsiders view) HO, you should branch 1.2 in
> CVS pretty soon, and go ahead with new features in HEAD. Otherwise you
> never get a stable product out. (I know about the pain of maintaining
> 2 branches..)
>
> </rant> and just my 2 cents ;)
>
> chregu
>
>>
>> Michi
>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>>> Antonio Gallardo
>>>
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Re: Fixing the menu.js
Posted by Christian Stocker <ch...@bitflux.ch>.
On 13.5.2004 9:22 Uhr, Michael Wechner wrote:
> Antonio Gallardo wrote:
>
>> Thorsten Scherler dijo:
>>
>>
>>> Hello Antonio,
>>>
>>> since you are using Mozilla download the xul menu and everything will be
>>> fine again ;-)
>>> http://metzner.org/projects/lenya/.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks Thorsten.
>>
>> A question: Why this is not part of lenya?
>>
>>
>
> it's not finished yet (workflow, username, etc. are not being shown),
> but I would
> suggest that we include it nevertheless and tell people where to switch
> between the current the XUL version.
>
> This would allow committers to help finish the XUL version ;-)
>
> WDTY?
I think, that you shouldn't commit unfinished, not-really-tested stuff
into a theoretically frozen branch.
IM (not so and from an outsiders view) HO, you should branch 1.2 in CVS
pretty soon, and go ahead with new features in HEAD. Otherwise you never
get a stable product out. (I know about the pain of maintaining 2
branches..)
</rant> and just my 2 cents ;)
chregu
>
> Michi
>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Antonio Gallardo
>>
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Re: Fixing the menu.js
Posted by Christian Stocker <ch...@bitflux.ch>.
On 13.5.2004 9:56 Uhr, Antonio Gallardo wrote:
> Gregor J. Rothfuss dijo:
>
>>Antonio Gallardo wrote:
>>
>>>Yep! It is better to see a part of Lenya using Mozilla than nothing. ;-)
>>
>>:) then again, have you seen bxe?
>
>
> Yep. But just from the bxe website. BTW the first 2 demo:
>
> http://cvsdemo.bitfluxeditor.org/
>
> don't work to me. Here is the link:
> http://cvsdemo.bitfluxeditor.org/examples/demo
> It return a Not Found error.
You obviously went to
http://cvsdemo.bitfluxeditor.org/examples/inlineXHTML/index.html ;)
there you have to click on "Edit this article" and not on "demo"
But I'll fix the links.. Thanks for the hint
chregu
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Antonio Gallardo
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Re: Fixing the menu.js
Posted by Antonio Gallardo <ag...@agssa.net>.
Gregor J. Rothfuss dijo:
> Antonio Gallardo wrote:
>> Yep! It is better to see a part of Lenya using Mozilla than nothing. ;-)
>
> :) then again, have you seen bxe?
Yep. But just from the bxe website. BTW the first 2 demo:
http://cvsdemo.bitfluxeditor.org/
don't work to me. Here is the link:
http://cvsdemo.bitfluxeditor.org/examples/demo
It return a Not Found error.
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Re: Fixing the menu.js
Posted by "Gregor J. Rothfuss" <gr...@apache.org>.
Antonio Gallardo wrote:
> Yep! It is better to see a part of Lenya using Mozilla than nothing. ;-)
:) then again, have you seen bxe?
> Anyway, XUL is getting hot recently and I am sure people will be able to
> contribute to the fix of it. In Cocoon there is Jörg Heinicke, he already
> worked with XUL and maybe he will be willing to help us here.
>
> BTW, We can also just fix the current menu in JS. Maybe this is easier
> than XUL. I know XUL is far more powerful, but we need to think about the
> problems that involve the mantain of to version:
>
> 1-JS for IE
> 2-XUL for Mozilla.
>
> (Under this schema Opera is out). I don't use Opera, but I think we need
> to support the most we can support.
we discussed that about a week ago. it would be good to figure out if we
can store the menu definitions in XUL and transform them for non-mozilla
browsers.
> Maybe is enough to fix JS for Mozilla and Opera. AFAIK, this is just some
> "if(){} else{}" away make it work. I nobody else, I will try to fix it on
> weekend.
that would be excellent.
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Re: Fixing the menu.js
Posted by Antonio Gallardo <ag...@agssa.net>.
Thorsten Scherler dijo:
> You are right, but the think in Opera and IE the menu is working fine it
> is the well known Mozilla & *nix bug. So fixing the *.js would not do
> any good. Our focus should be to finish that XUL menu for Mozilla!
+1
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Re: Fixing the menu.js
Posted by Thorsten Scherler <th...@juntadeandalucia.es>.
Antonio Gallardo wrote:
>Michael Wechner dijo:
>
>
>>Antonio Gallardo wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Thorsten Scherler dijo:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hello Antonio,
>>>>
>>>>since you are using Mozilla download the xul menu and everything will be
>>>>fine again ;-)
>>>>http://metzner.org/projects/lenya/.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>Thanks Thorsten.
>>>
>>>A question: Why this is not part of lenya?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>it's not finished yet (workflow, username, etc. are not being shown),
>>but I would
>>suggest that we include it nevertheless and tell people where to switch
>>between the current the XUL version.
>>
>>This would allow committers to help finish the XUL version ;-)
>>
>>
>
>Yep! It is better to see a part of Lenya using Mozilla than nothing. ;-)
>
>Anyway, XUL is getting hot recently and I am sure people will be able to
>contribute to the fix of it. In Cocoon there is Jörg Heinicke, he already
>worked with XUL and maybe he will be willing to help us here.
>
>BTW, We can also just fix the current menu in JS. Maybe this is easier
>than XUL.
>
You are right, but the think in Opera and IE the menu is working fine it
is the well known Mozilla & *nix bug. So fixing the *.js would not do
any good. Our focus should be to finish that XUL menu for Mozilla!
thorsten
>I know XUL is far more powerful, but we need to think about the
>problems that involve the mantain of to version:
>
>1-JS for IE
>2-XUL for Mozilla.
>
>(Under this schema Opera is out). I don't use Opera, but I think we need
>to support the most we can support.
>
>Maybe is enough to fix JS for Mozilla and Opera. AFAIK, this is just some
>"if(){} else{}" away make it work. I nobody else, I will try to fix it on
>weekend.
>
>Best Regards,
>
>Antonio Gallardo
>
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Re: Fixing the menu.js
Posted by Michael Wechner <mi...@wyona.com>.
Antonio Gallardo wrote:
>
>
>1-JS for IE
>2-XUL for Mozilla.
>
>
this is the beauty of XSLT and XML. We can do a nice migration path
by having two templates and working with different namespaces.
Michi
>(Under this schema Opera is out). I don't use Opera, but I think we need
>to support the most we can support.
>
>Maybe is enough to fix JS for Mozilla and Opera. AFAIK, this is just some
>"if(){} else{}" away make it work. I nobody else, I will try to fix it on
>weekend.
>
>Best Regards,
>
>Antonio Gallardo
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Re: Fixing the menu.js
Posted by Antonio Gallardo <ag...@agssa.net>.
Michael Wechner dijo:
> Antonio Gallardo wrote:
>
>>Thorsten Scherler dijo:
>>
>>
>>>Hello Antonio,
>>>
>>>since you are using Mozilla download the xul menu and everything will be
>>>fine again ;-)
>>>http://metzner.org/projects/lenya/.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Thanks Thorsten.
>>
>>A question: Why this is not part of lenya?
>>
>>
>
> it's not finished yet (workflow, username, etc. are not being shown),
> but I would
> suggest that we include it nevertheless and tell people where to switch
> between the current the XUL version.
>
> This would allow committers to help finish the XUL version ;-)
Yep! It is better to see a part of Lenya using Mozilla than nothing. ;-)
Anyway, XUL is getting hot recently and I am sure people will be able to
contribute to the fix of it. In Cocoon there is Jörg Heinicke, he already
worked with XUL and maybe he will be willing to help us here.
BTW, We can also just fix the current menu in JS. Maybe this is easier
than XUL. I know XUL is far more powerful, but we need to think about the
problems that involve the mantain of to version:
1-JS for IE
2-XUL for Mozilla.
(Under this schema Opera is out). I don't use Opera, but I think we need
to support the most we can support.
Maybe is enough to fix JS for Mozilla and Opera. AFAIK, this is just some
"if(){} else{}" away make it work. I nobody else, I will try to fix it on
weekend.
Best Regards,
Antonio Gallardo
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Re: Fixing the menu.js
Posted by Michael Wechner <mi...@wyona.com>.
Antonio Gallardo wrote:
>Thorsten Scherler dijo:
>
>
>>Hello Antonio,
>>
>>since you are using Mozilla download the xul menu and everything will be
>>fine again ;-)
>>http://metzner.org/projects/lenya/.
>>
>>
>
>Thanks Thorsten.
>
>A question: Why this is not part of lenya?
>
>
it's not finished yet (workflow, username, etc. are not being shown),
but I would
suggest that we include it nevertheless and tell people where to switch
between the current the XUL version.
This would allow committers to help finish the XUL version ;-)
WDTY?
Michi
>Best Regards,
>
>Antonio Gallardo
>
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Re: Fixing the menu.js
Posted by Antonio Gallardo <ag...@agssa.net>.
Thorsten Scherler dijo:
> Hello Antonio,
>
> since you are using Mozilla download the xul menu and everything will be
> fine again ;-)
> http://metzner.org/projects/lenya/.
Thanks Thorsten.
A question: Why this is not part of lenya?
Best Regards,
Antonio Gallardo
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Re: Fixing the menu.js
Posted by Thorsten Scherler <th...@juntadeandalucia.es>.
Hello Antonio,
since you are using Mozilla download the xul menu and everything will be
fine again ;-)
http://metzner.org/projects/lenya/.
HTH
Thorsten
Christian Stocker wrote:
>
>
> On 12.5.2004 21:17 Uhr, Gregor J. Rothfuss wrote:
>
>> Antonio Gallardo wrote:
>>
>>
>>> The line that cause Mozilla to suddenly close all open windows is
>>> the line
>>> 104:
>>>
>>> event.cancelBubble=true
>>>
>>> Searching a little on the Net I think the problem is described here:
>>>
>>> http://www.cross-browser.com/x/examples/handleevent_test.html
>>>
>>> Seems like Lenya is too IE oriented, right? ;-)
>>
>>
>>
>> hey thanks! yep lenya was originally written with an IE audience in
>> mind.. many years ago. imo the menu should be redone.
>
>
> I'd still call "closing all windows" (aka segfault ...) on
> event.cancelBubble=true a Mozilla Bug ;)
>
> And with the Mozilla only XML Editor BXE and the XUL Menus, I wouldn't
> call Lenya too IE oriented, either ;)
>
> chregu
>
>>
>>
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Re: Fixing the menu.js
Posted by Christian Stocker <ch...@bitflux.ch>.
On 12.5.2004 21:17 Uhr, Gregor J. Rothfuss wrote:
> Antonio Gallardo wrote:
>
>
>> The line that cause Mozilla to suddenly close all open windows is the
>> line
>> 104:
>>
>> event.cancelBubble=true
>>
>> Searching a little on the Net I think the problem is described here:
>>
>> http://www.cross-browser.com/x/examples/handleevent_test.html
>>
>> Seems like Lenya is too IE oriented, right? ;-)
>
>
> hey thanks! yep lenya was originally written with an IE audience in
> mind.. many years ago. imo the menu should be redone.
I'd still call "closing all windows" (aka segfault ...) on
event.cancelBubble=true a Mozilla Bug ;)
And with the Mozilla only XML Editor BXE and the XUL Menus, I wouldn't
call Lenya too IE oriented, either ;)
chregu
>
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