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Posted to dev@cocoon.apache.org by Carsten Ziegeler <cz...@s-und-n.de> on 2002/09/24 14:08:54 UTC
Need for a 2.0.4 release?
Hi Team,
what do you think about a 2.0.4 release? I think there were some issues
during the "holiday time" in 2.0.3 which is now fixed (something with a
component selector or so?).
So is this valid? Do we need a 2.0.4 release?
And if so, are there any open issues?
Carsten
Carsten Ziegeler Chief Architect Open Source Group, S&N AG
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Re: Need for a 2.0.4 release?
Posted by Ivelin Ivanov <iv...@apache.org>.
It's an OT question, but we never finished the thread of the 2.1 plan. How
long more do we plan to wait for new features?
When do we plan to announce features freeze and start stabilizing the code?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carsten Ziegeler" <cz...@s-und-n.de>
To: "Cocoon-Dev" <co...@xml.apache.org>
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 7:08 AM
Subject: Need for a 2.0.4 release?
> Hi Team,
>
> what do you think about a 2.0.4 release? I think there were some issues
> during the "holiday time" in 2.0.3 which is now fixed (something with a
> component selector or so?).
> So is this valid? Do we need a 2.0.4 release?
>
> And if so, are there any open issues?
>
> Carsten
>
>
> Carsten Ziegeler Chief Architect Open Source Group, S&N AG
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Re: Need for a 2.0.4 release?
Posted by Sylvain Wallez <sy...@anyware-tech.com>.
Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
>Hi Team,
>
>what do you think about a 2.0.4 release? I think there were some issues
>during the "holiday time" in 2.0.3 which is now fixed (something with a
>component selector or so?).
>So is this valid? Do we need a 2.0.4 release?
>
>
+1 for a release. Many bugs have been fixed since 2.0.3, even if there
are still some.
Sylvain
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Re: Need for a 2.0.4 release?
Posted by Conny Pemfors <co...@uarda.lu.se>.
good book you wrote about cocoon, if I have any questions about developing
applications in cocoon,
could I ask you then?
kind regards
Conny
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carsten Ziegeler" <cz...@s-und-n.de>
To: "Cocoon-Dev" <co...@xml.apache.org>
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 2:08 PM
Subject: Need for a 2.0.4 release?
> Hi Team,
>
> what do you think about a 2.0.4 release? I think there were some issues
> during the "holiday time" in 2.0.3 which is now fixed (something with a
> component selector or so?).
> So is this valid? Do we need a 2.0.4 release?
>
> And if so, are there any open issues?
>
> Carsten
>
>
> Carsten Ziegeler Chief Architect Open Source Group, S&N AG
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Re: Need for a 2.0.4 release?
Posted by Vadim Gritsenko <va...@verizon.net>.
Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
>Hi Team,
>
>what do you think about a 2.0.4 release? I think there were some issues
>during the "holiday time" in 2.0.3 which is now fixed (something with a
>component selector or so?).
>
I think that this is an understatement.
http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/xml-cocoon2/changes.xml.diff?r1=1.138.2.31&r2=1.138.2.56&diff_format=h
>So is this valid? Do we need a 2.0.4 release?
>
Of course we do.
>And if so, are there any open issues?
>
Of course we have, 65 of them last time I checked. Also, if you monitor
user's group, you can easily collect another 10 or 20. Unfortunately, I
do not have so much time to fix all of them, so it won't be before 2.0.7
or 2.0.8 when most important bugs are fixed... But 2.0.4 is sure huge
step forward.
There is one blocker for 2.0.4 though:
http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=11400
Can you help with it?
Vadim
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RE: Automated samples testing (Re: Need for a 2.0.4 release?)
Posted by Carsten Ziegeler <cz...@s-und-n.de>.
Jeff Turner wrote:
>
> On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 10:57:20AM -0400, Artur Bialecki wrote:
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Carsten Ziegeler [mailto:cziegeler@s-und-n.de]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 10:26 AM
> > > To: cocoon-dev@xml.apache.org
> > > Subject: RE: Need for a 2.0.4 release?
> >
> > <snipidy snip>
> >
> > > So a really great contribution to Cocoon would be test
> > > cases which can be run automatically.
> >
> > And if I wanted to write some of those where would they
> > go? Is there any infrastructure or preffered open-source
> > testing tool?
>
> Have a look at Anteater (http://aft.sourceforge.net/). In CVS,
> scripts/cocoon2.xml is a start at a Cocoon samples webapp regression
> test. Cocoon itself has some Anteater test scripts in src/test/anteater/.
>
You can use any open source tool with an apache licence, like junit,
anteater, latka ... There is a little work already done for anteater,
but I don't think that we are limited to this. For example some junit
tests with junit are also welcome.
>
> > Also what is the expected life for 2.0.x? And since
> > there are some major differences in 2.1.x does it
> > even make sens to do it for 2.0.x or at least parts
> > that will be deprecated.
> >
The expected life of 2.0.x is at least a year from now I would guess,
perhaps longer. If we have tests for 2.0.x, it should be easy to
migrate them to 2.1. So it really makes sense to add tests for
2.0.x.
Carsten
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Automated samples testing (Re: Need for a 2.0.4 release?)
Posted by Jeff Turner <je...@apache.org>.
On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 10:57:20AM -0400, Artur Bialecki wrote:
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Carsten Ziegeler [mailto:cziegeler@s-und-n.de]
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 10:26 AM
> > To: cocoon-dev@xml.apache.org
> > Subject: RE: Need for a 2.0.4 release?
>
> <snipidy snip>
>
> > So a really great contribution to Cocoon would be test
> > cases which can be run automatically.
>
> And if I wanted to write some of those where would they
> go? Is there any infrastructure or preffered open-source
> testing tool?
Have a look at Anteater (http://aft.sourceforge.net/). In CVS,
scripts/cocoon2.xml is a start at a Cocoon samples webapp regression
test. Cocoon itself has some Anteater test scripts in src/test/anteater/.
The problem historically has been that the samples keep getting
rearranged and renamed. If some sort of stability in 2.0.x has been
achieved, I'm keen help get a Gump-like, cron-driven samples testing
script going.
--Jeff
> Also what is the expected life for 2.0.x? And since
> there are some major differences in 2.1.x does it
> even make sens to do it for 2.0.x or at least parts
> that will be deprecated.
>
> Artur...
>
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RE: Need for a 2.0.4 release?
Posted by Per Kreipke <pe...@onclave.com>.
Artur wrote:
> Also what is the expected life for 2.0.x? And since
> there are some major differences in 2.1.x does it
> even make sens to do it for 2.0.x or at least parts
> that will be deprecated.
I hope the expected life is long since 2.1 doesn't seem to be on a release
schedule for the near future.
Vadim wrote:
> I think that this is an understatement.
Wow! That's a great list of fixes. Simply for some of the XSL, sitemap and
XSP bug fixes plus the InputModules, I'd use 2.0.4.
Per
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RE: Need for a 2.0.4 release?
Posted by Artur Bialecki <ar...@digitalfairway.com>.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Carsten Ziegeler [mailto:cziegeler@s-und-n.de]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 10:26 AM
> To: cocoon-dev@xml.apache.org
> Subject: RE: Need for a 2.0.4 release?
<snipidy snip>
> So a really great contribution to Cocoon would be test
> cases which can be run automatically.
And if I wanted to write some of those where would they
go? Is there any infrastructure or preffered open-source
testing tool?
Also what is the expected life for 2.0.x? And since
there are some major differences in 2.1.x does it
even make sens to do it for 2.0.x or at least parts
that will be deprecated.
Artur...
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RE: Need for a 2.0.4 release?
Posted by Carsten Ziegeler <cz...@s-und-n.de>.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Artur Bialecki [mailto:artur@digitalfairway.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 4:18 PM
> To: cocoon-dev@xml.apache.org
> Subject: RE: Need for a 2.0.4 release?
>
>
> Are there any regression test run before new release,
> or is it more like: check out the branch and let us know
> if anything is broken for you?
>
Exactly this way - we currently have no test cases (yet?),
and the only way is to test the samples if they still work.
So a really great contribution to Cocoon would be test
cases which can be run automatically.
But for the 2.0.3 release we asked all the users to test
the version which was a success - as some interesting bugs
where found this way which could be fixed before the release.
Carsten
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RE: Need for a 2.0.4 release?
Posted by Artur Bialecki <ar...@digitalfairway.com>.
Are there any regression test run before new release,
or is it more like: check out the branch and let us know
if anything is broken for you?
Artur...
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Carsten Ziegeler [mailto:cziegeler@s-und-n.de]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 8:09 AM
> To: Cocoon-Dev
> Subject: Need for a 2.0.4 release?
>
>
> Hi Team,
>
> what do you think about a 2.0.4 release? I think there were some issues
> during the "holiday time" in 2.0.3 which is now fixed (something with a
> component selector or so?).
> So is this valid? Do we need a 2.0.4 release?
>
> And if so, are there any open issues?
>
> Carsten
>
>
> Carsten Ziegeler Chief Architect Open Source Group, S&N AG
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