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Re: What's next?
At the very least the 3 remaining blockers need to be resolved in one way
or another:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?filter=12343308
Gj
On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 4:52 PM, Glenn Holmer <ce...@kolabnow.com> wrote:
> What are our next steps before 9.0 is released? The wiki says we will do
> a Community Acceptance survey starting 2018-04-13.
>
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Re: What's next?
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com>.
Changed its priority to blocker.
Thanks,
Gj
On Tue, May 1, 2018 at 1:22 PM, Glenn Holmer <ce...@kolabnow.com> wrote:
> On 05/01/2018 04:21 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> > At the very least the 3 remaining blockers need to be resolved in one way
> > or another:
> >
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?filter=12343308
>
> Wasn't 620 supposed to be a blocker?
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-620
>
> > On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 4:52 PM, Glenn Holmer <ce...@kolabnow.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> What are our next steps before 9.0 is released? The wiki says we will do
> >> a Community Acceptance survey starting 2018-04-13.
> --
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> "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe."
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Re: What's next?
Posted by Glenn Holmer <ce...@kolabnow.com>.
On 05/01/2018 04:21 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> At the very least the 3 remaining blockers need to be resolved in one way
> or another:
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/issues/?filter=12343308
Wasn't 620 supposed to be a blocker?
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-620
> On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 4:52 PM, Glenn Holmer <ce...@kolabnow.com> wrote:
>
>> What are our next steps before 9.0 is released? The wiki says we will do
>> a Community Acceptance survey starting 2018-04-13.
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Re: What's next?
Posted by Glenn Holmer <ce...@kolabnow.com>.
On 05/06/2018 10:38 AM, Efrem Mc wrote:
> Please advise the incubator build that will incorporate the fix.
It's incorporated in build 435 here:
https://builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-linux/
I closed the issue:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-620
> On Sun, May 6, 2018, 11:37 AM Glenn Holmer <cenbe@kolabnow.com
> <ma...@kolabnow.com>> wrote:
>
> On 05/06/2018 09:25 AM, Sven Reimers wrote:
> > SQLProfiler shows results if profiled process is run using JDK 10..
>
> Pulled PR locally, built and tested. I can confirm I get SQL profiling
> results under JDK 10 here as well.
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Re: What's next?
Posted by Efrem Mc <ef...@gmail.com>.
Please advise the incubator build that will incorporate the fix.
On Sun, May 6, 2018, 11:37 AM Glenn Holmer <ce...@kolabnow.com> wrote:
> On 05/06/2018 09:25 AM, Sven Reimers wrote:
> > SQLProfiler shows results if profiled process is run using JDK 10..
>
> Pulled PR locally, built and tested. I can confirm I get SQL profiling
> results under JDK 10 here as well.
>
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Re: What's next?
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com>.
Sure, I agree. They shouldn't be much work, most have been reviewed several
times.
Are there others in the list of PRs that we believe should absolutely be in
NB 9?
Thanks,
Gj
On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 9:28 PM, Sven Reimers <sv...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ok.
>
> So we should upgrade the issues to blocker, so they show up in the
> dashboard.
>
> Everybody ok with this?
>
> Sven
>
> Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com> schrieb am So., 6.
> Mai 2018, 21:10:
>
>> I think we at least need to include (after reviewing) all the PRs that
>> provide hints for converting to/from 'var' first:
>>
>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pull/533
>>
>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pull/521
>>
>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pull/519
>>
>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pull/509
>>
>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pull/468
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Gj
>>
>>
>> On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 7:24 PM, Sven Reimers <sv...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Since both or related to infrastructure and release process - should we
>>> try
>>> a first release candidate just for the features?
>>>
>>> Would this be a good point for branching?
>>>
>>> -Sven
>>>
>>> On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 7:22 PM Sven Reimers <sv...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > So with 620 out of the way - what about the two remaining blockers -
>>> they
>>> > are not assigned to anyone at the moment.
>>> >
>>> > I am under the impression that Jan was working on both of them - am I
>>> > wrong?
>>> >
>>> > Anything I could help with?
>>> >
>>> > -Sven
>>> >
>>> > On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 5:44 PM Sven Reimers <sv...@gmail.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Thanks for testing Glenn...
>>> >>
>>> >> Sven
>>> >>
>>> >> Glenn Holmer <ce...@kolabnow.com> schrieb am So., 6. Mai 2018, 17:37:
>>> >>
>>> >>> On 05/06/2018 09:25 AM, Sven Reimers wrote:
>>> >>> > SQLProfiler shows results if profiled process is run using JDK 10..
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Pulled PR locally, built and tested. I can confirm I get SQL
>>> profiling
>>> >>> results under JDK 10 here as well.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> --
>>> >>> Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682)
>>> >>> "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe."
>>> >>>
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>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >
>>> > --
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>>> >
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>>> > * Java Champion
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>>> > * Community Leader NetBeans: http://community.java.net/netbeans
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>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Sven Reimers
>>>
>>> * Senior Expert Software Architect
>>> * Java Champion
>>> * NetBeans Dream Team Member: http://dreamteam.netbeans.org
>>> * Community Leader NetBeans: http://community.java.net/netbeans
>>> Desktop Java:
>>> http://community.java.net/javadesktop
>>> * JUG Leader JUG Bodensee: http://www.jug-bodensee.de
>>> * Duke's Choice Award Winner 2009
>>>
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>>> * LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/svenreimers
>>>
>>
>>
Re: What's next?
Posted by Sven Reimers <sv...@gmail.com>.
Ok.
So we should upgrade the issues to blocker, so they show up in the
dashboard.
Everybody ok with this?
Sven
Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com> schrieb am So., 6. Mai
2018, 21:10:
> I think we at least need to include (after reviewing) all the PRs that
> provide hints for converting to/from 'var' first:
>
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pull/533
>
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pull/521
>
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pull/519
>
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pull/509
>
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pull/468
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gj
>
>
> On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 7:24 PM, Sven Reimers <sv...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Since both or related to infrastructure and release process - should we
>> try
>> a first release candidate just for the features?
>>
>> Would this be a good point for branching?
>>
>> -Sven
>>
>> On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 7:22 PM Sven Reimers <sv...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > So with 620 out of the way - what about the two remaining blockers -
>> they
>> > are not assigned to anyone at the moment.
>> >
>> > I am under the impression that Jan was working on both of them - am I
>> > wrong?
>> >
>> > Anything I could help with?
>> >
>> > -Sven
>> >
>> > On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 5:44 PM Sven Reimers <sv...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Thanks for testing Glenn...
>> >>
>> >> Sven
>> >>
>> >> Glenn Holmer <ce...@kolabnow.com> schrieb am So., 6. Mai 2018, 17:37:
>> >>
>> >>> On 05/06/2018 09:25 AM, Sven Reimers wrote:
>> >>> > SQLProfiler shows results if profiled process is run using JDK 10..
>> >>>
>> >>> Pulled PR locally, built and tested. I can confirm I get SQL profiling
>> >>> results under JDK 10 here as well.
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682)
>> >>> "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe."
>> >>>
>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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>> >>>
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>> >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >
>> > --
>> > Sven Reimers
>> >
>> > * Senior Expert Software Architect
>> > * Java Champion
>> > * NetBeans Dream Team Member: http://dreamteam.netbeans.org
>> > * Community Leader NetBeans: http://community.java.net/netbeans
>> > Desktop Java:
>> > http://community.java.net/javadesktop
>> > * JUG Leader JUG Bodensee: http://www.jug-bodensee.de
>> > * Duke's Choice Award Winner 2009
>> >
>> > * XING: https://www.xing.com/profile/Sven_Reimers8
>> > * LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/svenreimers
>> >
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sven Reimers
>>
>> * Senior Expert Software Architect
>> * Java Champion
>> * NetBeans Dream Team Member: http://dreamteam.netbeans.org
>> * Community Leader NetBeans: http://community.java.net/netbeans
>> Desktop Java:
>> http://community.java.net/javadesktop
>> * JUG Leader JUG Bodensee: http://www.jug-bodensee.de
>> * Duke's Choice Award Winner 2009
>>
>> * XING: https://www.xing.com/profile/Sven_Reimers8
>> * LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/svenreimers
>>
>
>
Re: What's next?
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com>.
I think we at least need to include (after reviewing) all the PRs that
provide hints for converting to/from 'var' first:
https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pull/533
https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pull/521
https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pull/519
https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pull/509
https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pull/468
Thanks,
Gj
On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 7:24 PM, Sven Reimers <sv...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Since both or related to infrastructure and release process - should we try
> a first release candidate just for the features?
>
> Would this be a good point for branching?
>
> -Sven
>
> On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 7:22 PM Sven Reimers <sv...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > So with 620 out of the way - what about the two remaining blockers - they
> > are not assigned to anyone at the moment.
> >
> > I am under the impression that Jan was working on both of them - am I
> > wrong?
> >
> > Anything I could help with?
> >
> > -Sven
> >
> > On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 5:44 PM Sven Reimers <sv...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks for testing Glenn...
> >>
> >> Sven
> >>
> >> Glenn Holmer <ce...@kolabnow.com> schrieb am So., 6. Mai 2018, 17:37:
> >>
> >>> On 05/06/2018 09:25 AM, Sven Reimers wrote:
> >>> > SQLProfiler shows results if profiled process is run using JDK 10..
> >>>
> >>> Pulled PR locally, built and tested. I can confirm I get SQL profiling
> >>> results under JDK 10 here as well.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682)
> >>> "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe."
> >>>
> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: netcat-unsubscribe@netbeans.apache.org
> >>> For additional commands, e-mail: netcat-help@netbeans.apache.org
> >>>
> >>> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit:
> >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> > --
> > Sven Reimers
> >
> > * Senior Expert Software Architect
> > * Java Champion
> > * NetBeans Dream Team Member: http://dreamteam.netbeans.org
> > * Community Leader NetBeans: http://community.java.net/netbeans
> > Desktop Java:
> > http://community.java.net/javadesktop
> > * JUG Leader JUG Bodensee: http://www.jug-bodensee.de
> > * Duke's Choice Award Winner 2009
> >
> > * XING: https://www.xing.com/profile/Sven_Reimers8
> > * LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/svenreimers
> >
>
>
> --
> Sven Reimers
>
> * Senior Expert Software Architect
> * Java Champion
> * NetBeans Dream Team Member: http://dreamteam.netbeans.org
> * Community Leader NetBeans: http://community.java.net/netbeans
> Desktop Java:
> http://community.java.net/javadesktop
> * JUG Leader JUG Bodensee: http://www.jug-bodensee.de
> * Duke's Choice Award Winner 2009
>
> * XING: https://www.xing.com/profile/Sven_Reimers8
> * LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/svenreimers
>
Re: What's next?
Posted by Sven Reimers <sv...@gmail.com>.
Since both or related to infrastructure and release process - should we try
a first release candidate just for the features?
Would this be a good point for branching?
-Sven
On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 7:22 PM Sven Reimers <sv...@gmail.com> wrote:
> So with 620 out of the way - what about the two remaining blockers - they
> are not assigned to anyone at the moment.
>
> I am under the impression that Jan was working on both of them - am I
> wrong?
>
> Anything I could help with?
>
> -Sven
>
> On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 5:44 PM Sven Reimers <sv...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for testing Glenn...
>>
>> Sven
>>
>> Glenn Holmer <ce...@kolabnow.com> schrieb am So., 6. Mai 2018, 17:37:
>>
>>> On 05/06/2018 09:25 AM, Sven Reimers wrote:
>>> > SQLProfiler shows results if profiled process is run using JDK 10..
>>>
>>> Pulled PR locally, built and tested. I can confirm I get SQL profiling
>>> results under JDK 10 here as well.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682)
>>> "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe."
>>>
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: netcat-unsubscribe@netbeans.apache.org
>>> For additional commands, e-mail: netcat-help@netbeans.apache.org
>>>
>>> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit:
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
>>>
>>>
>
> --
> Sven Reimers
>
> * Senior Expert Software Architect
> * Java Champion
> * NetBeans Dream Team Member: http://dreamteam.netbeans.org
> * Community Leader NetBeans: http://community.java.net/netbeans
> Desktop Java:
> http://community.java.net/javadesktop
> * JUG Leader JUG Bodensee: http://www.jug-bodensee.de
> * Duke's Choice Award Winner 2009
>
> * XING: https://www.xing.com/profile/Sven_Reimers8
> * LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/svenreimers
>
--
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* Senior Expert Software Architect
* Java Champion
* NetBeans Dream Team Member: http://dreamteam.netbeans.org
* Community Leader NetBeans: http://community.java.net/netbeans
Desktop Java:
http://community.java.net/javadesktop
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Re: What's next?
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com>.
Re Neil's comments, yes, makes sense, when there's a weekend, we should
consider taking a bit longer. Then again, still, we've had enough votes to
move on to the IPMC vote and there'll be a lot more voting to do, i.e., for
rc2, for the final release, and for all subsequent releases.
Gj
On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 11:06 AM, Geertjan Wielenga <
geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> Well, yes, under Apache the role of NetCAT is a bit different. I am sure
> there'll be an acceptance survey. However, under Apache, the only final and
> valid vote takes place on the Apache NetBeans dev mailing list. For sure,
> if the NetCAT acceptance survey fails, that will be noticed by those voting
> in the Apache NetBeans dev mailing list and they won't let the vote succeed
> without the NetCAT acceptance survey succeeding. But, yes, indeed, you need
> to sign up to the Apache NetBeans dev mailing list to participate in the
> official voting for Apache NetBeans releases.
>
> Also note that we're 'only' voting for the rc1 release. There'll probably
> be an rc2 release as well, before the final release -- all kinds of small
> things, e.g., splash screen, need to be done still.
>
> There's a lot of fun to be had, still, in other words. :-)
>
> Gj
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 11:01 AM, Luca Mambretti <
> luca.mambretti@bizeta.net> wrote:
>
>> if it's this bit that says, not relevant for voting purposes:
>>
>>
>> Included as a convenience binary, not relevant for the voting purposes
>> (unzip it, run it and you'll see Apache NetBeans):
>> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/in
>> cubating-netbeans-java/incubating-9.0-rc1-rc1/incubating-
>> netbeans-java-9.0-rc1-bin.zip
>>
>>
>> that is exactly why I asked, since in the previous NetCat there was only
>> a binary installation to vote on, while now it seems the only accepted way
>> is to build from sources and vote on the built bits.
>>
>>
>> Also and most importantly for my case the voting is going on on the dev
>> mailing list and I'm not subscribed there so is the dev voting mentioned
>> actually the Community Acceptance Survey, and in that case can I vote here
>> as part of NetCat or not??
>>
>> Thank you for your help,
>> Luca.
>> ----- Messaggio originale -----
>> Da: "Geertjan Wielenga" <ge...@googlemail.com>
>> A: "netcat" <ne...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
>> Inviato: Lunedì, 21 maggio 2018 9:57:24
>> Oggetto: Re: What's next?
>>
>> Can you read the link Glenn provided again? Just actually read it. You'll
>> find the binary mentioned there, just download it and start it up.
>>
>> Gj
>>
>> On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 9:41 AM, Luca Mambretti <
>> luca.mambretti@bizeta.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Does this mean that:
>> >
>> > 1 - There will be no binary RC candidate, the only one to vote on will
>> > have to be build from sources ??
>> > 2 - The Community Acceptance Survey is already going on but voting is
>> > only possible on the dev list (not on NetCat) ??
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Luca.
>> >
>> > ----- Messaggio originale -----
>> > Da: "Glenn Holmer" <ce...@kolabnow.com>
>> > A: "netcat" <ne...@netbeans.apache.org>
>> > Inviato: Domenica, 20 maggio 2018 4:51:47
>> > Oggetto: What's next?
>> >
>> > On 05/16/2018 04:41 PM, joe schmo wrote:
>> > > Is 9.0 coming soon?
>> > >
>> > > https://twitter.com/gholmer/status/996423776530259969
>> >
>> > You can build the first RC from source and vote on its release on the
>> > dev list:
>> >
>> > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/c2a06adc83e2819e6d96c7dff8d0e2
>> > 2a97001f99bfda12515d4d9609@%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E
>> >
>> > --
>> > Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682)
>> > "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe."
>> >
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>> >
>>
>
>
Re: What's next?
Posted by Jiří Kovalský <ji...@oracle.com>.
Yes, we plan to open Community Acceptance Survey once all the remaining
things are sorted out:
* update center is working and recording user requests
* splash and welcome screens are updated
* user and cache directories are changed to rc
* module specification versions are increased
-Jirka
Dne 21.5.2018 v 11:06 Geertjan Wielenga napsal(a):
> Well, yes, under Apache the role of NetCAT is a bit different. I am sure
> there'll be an acceptance survey. However, under Apache, the only final and
> valid vote takes place on the Apache NetBeans dev mailing list. For sure,
> if the NetCAT acceptance survey fails, that will be noticed by those voting
> in the Apache NetBeans dev mailing list and they won't let the vote succeed
> without the NetCAT acceptance survey succeeding. But, yes, indeed, you need
> to sign up to the Apache NetBeans dev mailing list to participate in the
> official voting for Apache NetBeans releases.
>
> Also note that we're 'only' voting for the rc1 release. There'll probably
> be an rc2 release as well, before the final release -- all kinds of small
> things, e.g., splash screen, need to be done still.
>
> There's a lot of fun to be had, still, in other words. :-)
>
> Gj
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 11:01 AM, Luca Mambretti <lu...@bizeta.net>
> wrote:
>
>> if it's this bit that says, not relevant for voting purposes:
>>
>>
>> Included as a convenience binary, not relevant for the voting purposes
>> (unzip it, run it and you'll see Apache NetBeans):
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__dist.apache.org_repos_dist_dev_incubator_netbeans_&d=DwIFaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=8_Pz0x0SKeT5e3IehhQKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4&m=CARBo12TwINAb_q2zIg4DtFjUC18X8wpxR17KsCviv8&s=IPA6fYAnfQ83fxcPN0xXf8iyasLJfZyf4BcOG-qPFto&e=
>> incubating-netbeans-java/incubating-9.0-rc1-rc1/
>> incubating-netbeans-java-9.0-rc1-bin.zip
>>
>>
>> that is exactly why I asked, since in the previous NetCat there was only a
>> binary installation to vote on, while now it seems the only accepted way is
>> to build from sources and vote on the built bits.
>>
>>
>> Also and most importantly for my case the voting is going on on the dev
>> mailing list and I'm not subscribed there so is the dev voting mentioned
>> actually the Community Acceptance Survey, and in that case can I vote here
>> as part of NetCat or not??
>>
>> Thank you for your help,
>> Luca.
>> ----- Messaggio originale -----
>> Da: "Geertjan Wielenga" <ge...@googlemail.com>
>> A: "netcat" <ne...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
>> Inviato: Lunedì, 21 maggio 2018 9:57:24
>> Oggetto: Re: What's next?
>>
>> Can you read the link Glenn provided again? Just actually read it. You'll
>> find the binary mentioned there, just download it and start it up.
>>
>> Gj
>>
>> On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 9:41 AM, Luca Mambretti <luca.mambretti@bizeta.net
>>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Does this mean that:
>>>
>>> 1 - There will be no binary RC candidate, the only one to vote on will
>>> have to be build from sources ??
>>> 2 - The Community Acceptance Survey is already going on but voting is
>>> only possible on the dev list (not on NetCat) ??
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Luca.
>>>
>>> ----- Messaggio originale -----
>>> Da: "Glenn Holmer" <ce...@kolabnow.com>
>>> A: "netcat" <ne...@netbeans.apache.org>
>>> Inviato: Domenica, 20 maggio 2018 4:51:47
>>> Oggetto: What's next?
>>>
>>> On 05/16/2018 04:41 PM, joe schmo wrote:
>>>> Is 9.0 coming soon?
>>>>
>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__twitter.com_gholmer_status_996423776530259969&d=DwIFaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=8_Pz0x0SKeT5e3IehhQKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4&m=CARBo12TwINAb_q2zIg4DtFjUC18X8wpxR17KsCviv8&s=mzeanzSiueNaq96ENhmN88pUjIG0PyFMYIPloSwDYRk&e=
>>>
>>> You can build the first RC from source and vote on its release on the
>>> dev list:
>>>
>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__lists.apache.org_thread.html_c2a06adc83e2819e6d96c7dff8d0e2&d=DwIFaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=8_Pz0x0SKeT5e3IehhQKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4&m=CARBo12TwINAb_q2zIg4DtFjUC18X8wpxR17KsCviv8&s=Eb0DnnBrujaZj9h7xHxmaoYxoRrk9h5weumxGcBF6MY&e=
>>> 2a97001f99bfda12515d4d9609@%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E
>>>
>>> --
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Re: What's next?
Posted by Glenn Holmer <ce...@kolabnow.com>.
On 05/21/2018 04:06 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> Well, yes, under Apache the role of NetCAT is a bit different. I am sure
> there'll be an acceptance survey. However, under Apache, the only final and
> valid vote takes place on the Apache NetBeans dev mailing list. For sure,
> if the NetCAT acceptance survey fails, that will be noticed by those voting
> in the Apache NetBeans dev mailing list and they won't let the vote succeed
> without the NetCAT acceptance survey succeeding. But, yes, indeed, you need
> to sign up to the Apache NetBeans dev mailing list to participate in the
> official voting for Apache NetBeans releases.
I didn't mean to cause any confusion. I've seen people asking about the
status of the release, so I posted about the vote thread. It's basically
just asking "is this one OK to release as RC1?". If so, then we
NetCATters get to pound on it and give an opinion. Right?
> There's a lot of fun to be had, still, in other words. :-)
Big fun, yes! Very exciting days for NetBeans!
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Re: What's next?
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com>.
Well, yes, under Apache the role of NetCAT is a bit different. I am sure
there'll be an acceptance survey. However, under Apache, the only final and
valid vote takes place on the Apache NetBeans dev mailing list. For sure,
if the NetCAT acceptance survey fails, that will be noticed by those voting
in the Apache NetBeans dev mailing list and they won't let the vote succeed
without the NetCAT acceptance survey succeeding. But, yes, indeed, you need
to sign up to the Apache NetBeans dev mailing list to participate in the
official voting for Apache NetBeans releases.
Also note that we're 'only' voting for the rc1 release. There'll probably
be an rc2 release as well, before the final release -- all kinds of small
things, e.g., splash screen, need to be done still.
There's a lot of fun to be had, still, in other words. :-)
Gj
On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 11:01 AM, Luca Mambretti <lu...@bizeta.net>
wrote:
> if it's this bit that says, not relevant for voting purposes:
>
>
> Included as a convenience binary, not relevant for the voting purposes
> (unzip it, run it and you'll see Apache NetBeans):
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/
> incubating-netbeans-java/incubating-9.0-rc1-rc1/
> incubating-netbeans-java-9.0-rc1-bin.zip
>
>
> that is exactly why I asked, since in the previous NetCat there was only a
> binary installation to vote on, while now it seems the only accepted way is
> to build from sources and vote on the built bits.
>
>
> Also and most importantly for my case the voting is going on on the dev
> mailing list and I'm not subscribed there so is the dev voting mentioned
> actually the Community Acceptance Survey, and in that case can I vote here
> as part of NetCat or not??
>
> Thank you for your help,
> Luca.
> ----- Messaggio originale -----
> Da: "Geertjan Wielenga" <ge...@googlemail.com>
> A: "netcat" <ne...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
> Inviato: Lunedì, 21 maggio 2018 9:57:24
> Oggetto: Re: What's next?
>
> Can you read the link Glenn provided again? Just actually read it. You'll
> find the binary mentioned there, just download it and start it up.
>
> Gj
>
> On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 9:41 AM, Luca Mambretti <luca.mambretti@bizeta.net
> >
> wrote:
>
> > Does this mean that:
> >
> > 1 - There will be no binary RC candidate, the only one to vote on will
> > have to be build from sources ??
> > 2 - The Community Acceptance Survey is already going on but voting is
> > only possible on the dev list (not on NetCat) ??
> >
> > Regards,
> > Luca.
> >
> > ----- Messaggio originale -----
> > Da: "Glenn Holmer" <ce...@kolabnow.com>
> > A: "netcat" <ne...@netbeans.apache.org>
> > Inviato: Domenica, 20 maggio 2018 4:51:47
> > Oggetto: What's next?
> >
> > On 05/16/2018 04:41 PM, joe schmo wrote:
> > > Is 9.0 coming soon?
> > >
> > > https://twitter.com/gholmer/status/996423776530259969
> >
> > You can build the first RC from source and vote on its release on the
> > dev list:
> >
> > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/c2a06adc83e2819e6d96c7dff8d0e2
> > 2a97001f99bfda12515d4d9609@%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E
> >
> > --
> > Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682)
> > "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe."
> >
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> >
> >
>
Re: What's next?
Posted by Luca Mambretti <lu...@bizeta.net>.
if it's this bit that says, not relevant for voting purposes:
Included as a convenience binary, not relevant for the voting purposes (unzip it, run it and you'll see Apache NetBeans):
https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/incubating-netbeans-java/incubating-9.0-rc1-rc1/incubating-netbeans-java-9.0-rc1-bin.zip
that is exactly why I asked, since in the previous NetCat there was only a binary installation to vote on, while now it seems the only accepted way is to build from sources and vote on the built bits.
Also and most importantly for my case the voting is going on on the dev mailing list and I'm not subscribed there so is the dev voting mentioned actually the Community Acceptance Survey, and in that case can I vote here as part of NetCat or not??
Thank you for your help,
Luca.
----- Messaggio originale -----
Da: "Geertjan Wielenga" <ge...@googlemail.com>
A: "netcat" <ne...@netbeans.incubator.apache.org>
Inviato: Lunedì, 21 maggio 2018 9:57:24
Oggetto: Re: What's next?
Can you read the link Glenn provided again? Just actually read it. You'll
find the binary mentioned there, just download it and start it up.
Gj
On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 9:41 AM, Luca Mambretti <lu...@bizeta.net>
wrote:
> Does this mean that:
>
> 1 - There will be no binary RC candidate, the only one to vote on will
> have to be build from sources ??
> 2 - The Community Acceptance Survey is already going on but voting is
> only possible on the dev list (not on NetCat) ??
>
> Regards,
> Luca.
>
> ----- Messaggio originale -----
> Da: "Glenn Holmer" <ce...@kolabnow.com>
> A: "netcat" <ne...@netbeans.apache.org>
> Inviato: Domenica, 20 maggio 2018 4:51:47
> Oggetto: What's next?
>
> On 05/16/2018 04:41 PM, joe schmo wrote:
> > Is 9.0 coming soon?
> >
> > https://twitter.com/gholmer/status/996423776530259969
>
> You can build the first RC from source and vote on its release on the
> dev list:
>
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/c2a06adc83e2819e6d96c7dff8d0e2
> 2a97001f99bfda12515d4d9609@%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E
>
> --
> Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682)
> "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe."
>
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Re: What's next?
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com>.
Can you read the link Glenn provided again? Just actually read it. You'll
find the binary mentioned there, just download it and start it up.
Gj
On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 9:41 AM, Luca Mambretti <lu...@bizeta.net>
wrote:
> Does this mean that:
>
> 1 - There will be no binary RC candidate, the only one to vote on will
> have to be build from sources ??
> 2 - The Community Acceptance Survey is already going on but voting is
> only possible on the dev list (not on NetCat) ??
>
> Regards,
> Luca.
>
> ----- Messaggio originale -----
> Da: "Glenn Holmer" <ce...@kolabnow.com>
> A: "netcat" <ne...@netbeans.apache.org>
> Inviato: Domenica, 20 maggio 2018 4:51:47
> Oggetto: What's next?
>
> On 05/16/2018 04:41 PM, joe schmo wrote:
> > Is 9.0 coming soon?
> >
> > https://twitter.com/gholmer/status/996423776530259969
>
> You can build the first RC from source and vote on its release on the
> dev list:
>
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/c2a06adc83e2819e6d96c7dff8d0e2
> 2a97001f99bfda12515d4d9609@%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E
>
> --
> Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682)
> "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe."
>
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Re: What's next?
Posted by Neil C Smith <ne...@apache.org>.
On Mon, 21 May 2018 at 08:41 Luca Mambretti <lu...@bizeta.net>
wrote:
> 1 - There will be no binary RC candidate, the only one to vote on will
> have to be build from sources ??
>
>
Yes! Note the procedure linked at
http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html#release-approval The steps
to actually vote on a release are included there, and include building from
source.
This, incidentally, is why I haven't voted yet as I haven't had a chance to
do that yet. Maybe we should think about the min 72hrs in future if that
coincides with a weekend?! Not sure who might have intended to vote but
hasn't been able to run all steps yet?
Best wishes,
Neil
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Re: What's next?
Posted by Luca Mambretti <lu...@bizeta.net>.
Does this mean that:
1 - There will be no binary RC candidate, the only one to vote on will have to be build from sources ??
2 - The Community Acceptance Survey is already going on but voting is only possible on the dev list (not on NetCat) ??
Regards,
Luca.
----- Messaggio originale -----
Da: "Glenn Holmer" <ce...@kolabnow.com>
A: "netcat" <ne...@netbeans.apache.org>
Inviato: Domenica, 20 maggio 2018 4:51:47
Oggetto: What's next?
On 05/16/2018 04:41 PM, joe schmo wrote:
> Is 9.0 coming soon?
>
> https://twitter.com/gholmer/status/996423776530259969
You can build the first RC from source and vote on its release on the
dev list:
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/c2a06adc83e2819e6d96c7dff8d0e22a97001f99bfda12515d4d9609@%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E
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Re: What's next?
Posted by Sven Reimers <sv...@gmail.com>.
+1
Sven
Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com> schrieb am Mo., 7. Mai
2018, 17:21:
> To me, this sounds good.
>
> Gj
>
> On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 5:03 PM, Jan Lahoda <la...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 3:46 PM, Jiří Kovalský <ji...@oracle.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Dne 6.5.2018 v 21:34 Sven Reimers napsal(a):
> > >
> > > Hi Jan,
> > >>
> > >> thanks for clarifying.
> > >>
> > >> So for NETBEANS-330 building a release candidate would be a good
> idea. I
> > >> aggree.
> > >>
> > >
> > > Yes, so should I simply publish the latest module catalog [1] on our
> > > NetBeans VM for example as [2] that will be used in 9.0 branding module
> > > when 9.0 branch will be created?
> > >
> > > [1] https://builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-linux/lastS
> > > uccessfulBuild/artifact/nbbuild/nbms/updates.xml.gz
> > > [2] http://netbeans-vm.apache.org/uc/9.0/updates.xml.gz
> > >
> > > This way we will find out if:
> > >
> > > * we are able to collect the usage tracking data and update the parsing
> > > script if it works
> > > * forwarding to the mirror network works
> > >
> > > Opinions?
> > >
> >
> > A small tweak to the plan I'd like to propose: I think it would be good
> to
> > use a nice scheme for the update URLs, something like:
> > http(s)://netbeans.apache.org/updates/9.0/updates.xml.gz
> >
> > This then would redirect to netbeans-vm. I hope we could keep this URL
> > stable for a long time, even if we need to change the underlying server
> or
> > something else.
> >
> > Any opinions on the URL scheme? Should I send a PR to setup such a
> redirect
> > (pointing to the location on netbeans-vm Jiri proposed)?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jan
> >
> >
> > >
> > > -Jirka
> > >
> > > Regarding the NETBEANS-467, why do we need all external binaries in the
> > >> Apache repository? I thought we wil just publish our build result?
> > >>
> > >> Seems there is still some work left before we get a release..
> > >>
> > >> -Sven
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Jan Lahoda <la...@gmail.com> schrieb am So., 6. Mai 2018, 21:16:
> > >>
> > >> Regarding NETBEANS-330
> > >>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__
> > >>> issues.apache.org_jira_browse_NETBEANS-2D330&d=DwIBaQ&c=RoP1
> > >>> YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=8_Pz0x0SKeT5e3Iehh
> > >>> QKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4&m=zHWSbFaUuKirwQ8vRavUO00Ffo7WB-Uk
> > >>> vN7OGiTAVsg&s=6hXkF4GOvPA8lwUFHGR55su9OFxV47OlRWEp3pgHTvk&e=>, we can
> > >>> build the
> > >>> update center now, and if/when we setup a location for the update
> > center
> > >>> (presumably redirecting somewhere), we can set that to the IDE, and
> see
> > >>> what happens. But to test this fully, a release would be good, so
> that
> > we
> > >>> can redirect to mirrors and see what happens (and I suspect it may
> not
> > >>> work
> > >>> on the first try).
> > >>>
> > >>> Regarding NETBEANS-467
> > >>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__
> > >>> issues.apache.org_jira_browse_NETBEANS-2D467&d=DwIBaQ&c=RoP1
> > >>> YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=8_Pz0x0SKeT5e3Iehh
> > >>> QKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4&m=zHWSbFaUuKirwQ8vRavUO00Ffo7WB-Uk
> > >>> vN7OGiTAVsg&s=rakhRk2-d4uQ7VrfIGAWcrAhjoMJOtHZ8upXusEVfZA&e=>, I
> think
> > >>> the
> > >>>
> > >>> situation is much less clear. At very least, it seems we will need
> > >>> INFRA-16435 to be resolved, and ensure all external binaries used by
> > (at
> > >>> least) platform are on Maven central. I guess it would be ideal if
> > >>> someone
> > >>> using Maven and NB platform (and hence knowing the end goal) would
> > drive
> > >>> this.
> > >>>
> > >>> Jan
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 7:22 PM, Sven Reimers <sven.reimers@gmail.com
> >
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> So with 620 out of the way - what about the two remaining blockers -
> > they
> > >>>> are not assigned to anyone at the moment.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I am under the impression that Jan was working on both of them - am
> I
> > >>>> wrong?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Anything I could help with?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> -Sven
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 5:44 PM Sven Reimers <sven.reimers@gmail.com
> >
> > >>>> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thanks for testing Glenn...
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Sven
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Glenn Holmer <ce...@kolabnow.com> schrieb am So., 6. Mai 2018,
> > 17:37:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On 05/06/2018 09:25 AM, Sven Reimers wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> SQLProfiler shows results if profiled process is run using JDK
> 10..
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Pulled PR locally, built and tested. I can confirm I get SQL
> > profiling
> > >>>>>> results under JDK 10 here as well.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> --
> > >>>>>> Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682)
> > >>>>>> "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe."
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------
> > ---------
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> > >>>>>> aQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=8_Pz0x0SK
> > >>>>>> eT5e3IehhQKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4&m=zHWSbFaUuKirwQ8vRavUO00
> > >>>>>> Ffo7WB-UkvN7OGiTAVsg&s=Ej7hwtLqmgDkAacEw8HUFMzcw8JYap
> > 1tKHzUKnovIT8&e=
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>> --
> > >>>> Sven Reimers
> > >>>>
> > >>>> * Senior Expert Software Architect
> > >>>> * Java Champion
> > >>>> * NetBeans Dream Team Member: https://urldefense.proofpoint.
> > >>>> com/v2/url?u=http-3A__dreamteam.netbeans.org&d=DwIBaQ&c=RoP1
> > >>>> YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=8_Pz0x0SKeT5e3Iehh
> > >>>> QKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4&m=zHWSbFaUuKirwQ8vRavUO00Ffo7WB-Uk
> > >>>> vN7OGiTAVsg&s=yALfOqoY4wD1i3d3tuko3fT5FFkbMPXNopzJAqTypsg&e=
> > >>>> * Community Leader NetBeans: https://urldefense.proofpoint.
> > >>>> com/v2/url?u=http-3A__community.java.net_netbeans&d=DwIBaQ&
> > >>>> c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=8_Pz0x0SKeT5
> > >>>> e3IehhQKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4&m=zHWSbFaUuKirwQ8vRavUO00Ffo
> > >>>> 7WB-UkvN7OGiTAVsg&s=KKiK59UU5fLAkDyYuIgMC6RDyCialKJ-tcPb8NxIbho&e=
> > >>>> Desktop Java:
> > >>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__communit
> > >>>> y.java.net_javadesktop&d=DwIBaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8P
> > >>>> Zh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=8_Pz0x0SKeT5e3IehhQKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU
> > >>>> 133NrdP4&m=zHWSbFaUuKirwQ8vRavUO00Ffo7WB-UkvN7OGiTAVsg&s=UzK
> > >>>> HGz2UVDVSL7EWIpK4Ojn9wlGldGXhnFyH4l9vwmM&e=
> > >>>> * JUG Leader JUG Bodensee: https://urldefense.proofpoint.
> > >>>> com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.jug-2Dbodensee.de&d=DwIBaQ&c=RoP1Y
> > >>>> umCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=8_Pz0x0SKeT5e3IehhQ
> > >>>> KCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4&m=zHWSbFaUuKirwQ8vRavUO00Ffo7WB-Ukv
> > >>>> N7OGiTAVsg&s=Sg241RPz30uNaVTCeQH6SHmxcMZI9R-cBuqXfx2VV8U&e=
> > >>>> * Duke's Choice Award Winner 2009
> > >>>>
> > >>>> * XING:
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.xin
> > >>>> g.com_profile_Sven-5FReimers8&d=DwIBaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR
> > >>>> 8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=8_Pz0x0SKeT5e3IehhQKCbQ2xl3tz40jn
> > >>>> CU133NrdP4&m=zHWSbFaUuKirwQ8vRavUO00Ffo7WB-UkvN7OGiTAVsg&s=O
> > >>>> l2vCJuWvCaGGtZ037iNX6Bg_1rfmYzHF6WmxzcEdhc&e=
> > >>>> * LinkedIn: https://urldefense.proofpoint.
> > >>>> com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.linkedin.com_in_svenreimers&d=DwIB
> > >>>> aQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=8_Pz0x0SK
> > >>>> eT5e3IehhQKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4&m=zHWSbFaUuKirwQ8vRavUO00
> > >>>>
> Ffo7WB-UkvN7OGiTAVsg&s=ccuz-wEBFs2ZNUOheS1KW2dEsXYT8_s2xBt9BQltK3w&e=
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
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Re: What's next?
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com>.
To me, this sounds good.
Gj
On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 5:03 PM, Jan Lahoda <la...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 3:46 PM, Jiří Kovalský <ji...@oracle.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Dne 6.5.2018 v 21:34 Sven Reimers napsal(a):
> >
> > Hi Jan,
> >>
> >> thanks for clarifying.
> >>
> >> So for NETBEANS-330 building a release candidate would be a good idea. I
> >> aggree.
> >>
> >
> > Yes, so should I simply publish the latest module catalog [1] on our
> > NetBeans VM for example as [2] that will be used in 9.0 branding module
> > when 9.0 branch will be created?
> >
> > [1] https://builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-linux/lastS
> > uccessfulBuild/artifact/nbbuild/nbms/updates.xml.gz
> > [2] http://netbeans-vm.apache.org/uc/9.0/updates.xml.gz
> >
> > This way we will find out if:
> >
> > * we are able to collect the usage tracking data and update the parsing
> > script if it works
> > * forwarding to the mirror network works
> >
> > Opinions?
> >
>
> A small tweak to the plan I'd like to propose: I think it would be good to
> use a nice scheme for the update URLs, something like:
> http(s)://netbeans.apache.org/updates/9.0/updates.xml.gz
>
> This then would redirect to netbeans-vm. I hope we could keep this URL
> stable for a long time, even if we need to change the underlying server or
> something else.
>
> Any opinions on the URL scheme? Should I send a PR to setup such a redirect
> (pointing to the location on netbeans-vm Jiri proposed)?
>
> Thanks,
> Jan
>
>
> >
> > -Jirka
> >
> > Regarding the NETBEANS-467, why do we need all external binaries in the
> >> Apache repository? I thought we wil just publish our build result?
> >>
> >> Seems there is still some work left before we get a release..
> >>
> >> -Sven
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Jan Lahoda <la...@gmail.com> schrieb am So., 6. Mai 2018, 21:16:
> >>
> >> Regarding NETBEANS-330
> >>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__
> >>> issues.apache.org_jira_browse_NETBEANS-2D330&d=DwIBaQ&c=RoP1
> >>> YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=8_Pz0x0SKeT5e3Iehh
> >>> QKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4&m=zHWSbFaUuKirwQ8vRavUO00Ffo7WB-Uk
> >>> vN7OGiTAVsg&s=6hXkF4GOvPA8lwUFHGR55su9OFxV47OlRWEp3pgHTvk&e=>, we can
> >>> build the
> >>> update center now, and if/when we setup a location for the update
> center
> >>> (presumably redirecting somewhere), we can set that to the IDE, and see
> >>> what happens. But to test this fully, a release would be good, so that
> we
> >>> can redirect to mirrors and see what happens (and I suspect it may not
> >>> work
> >>> on the first try).
> >>>
> >>> Regarding NETBEANS-467
> >>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__
> >>> issues.apache.org_jira_browse_NETBEANS-2D467&d=DwIBaQ&c=RoP1
> >>> YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=8_Pz0x0SKeT5e3Iehh
> >>> QKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4&m=zHWSbFaUuKirwQ8vRavUO00Ffo7WB-Uk
> >>> vN7OGiTAVsg&s=rakhRk2-d4uQ7VrfIGAWcrAhjoMJOtHZ8upXusEVfZA&e=>, I think
> >>> the
> >>>
> >>> situation is much less clear. At very least, it seems we will need
> >>> INFRA-16435 to be resolved, and ensure all external binaries used by
> (at
> >>> least) platform are on Maven central. I guess it would be ideal if
> >>> someone
> >>> using Maven and NB platform (and hence knowing the end goal) would
> drive
> >>> this.
> >>>
> >>> Jan
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 7:22 PM, Sven Reimers <sv...@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> So with 620 out of the way - what about the two remaining blockers -
> they
> >>>> are not assigned to anyone at the moment.
> >>>>
> >>>> I am under the impression that Jan was working on both of them - am I
> >>>> wrong?
> >>>>
> >>>> Anything I could help with?
> >>>>
> >>>> -Sven
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 5:44 PM Sven Reimers <sv...@gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks for testing Glenn...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sven
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Glenn Holmer <ce...@kolabnow.com> schrieb am So., 6. Mai 2018,
> 17:37:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 05/06/2018 09:25 AM, Sven Reimers wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> SQLProfiler shows results if profiled process is run using JDK 10..
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Pulled PR locally, built and tested. I can confirm I get SQL
> profiling
> >>>>>> results under JDK 10 here as well.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682)
> >>>>>> "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe."
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------
> ---------
> >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: netcat-unsubscribe@netbeans.apache.org
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> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit:
> >>>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__cwiki.a
> >>>>>> pache.org_confluence_display_NETBEANS_Mailing-2Blists&d=DwIB
> >>>>>> aQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=8_Pz0x0SK
> >>>>>> eT5e3IehhQKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4&m=zHWSbFaUuKirwQ8vRavUO00
> >>>>>> Ffo7WB-UkvN7OGiTAVsg&s=Ej7hwtLqmgDkAacEw8HUFMzcw8JYap
> 1tKHzUKnovIT8&e=
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Sven Reimers
> >>>>
> >>>> * Senior Expert Software Architect
> >>>> * Java Champion
> >>>> * NetBeans Dream Team Member: https://urldefense.proofpoint.
> >>>> com/v2/url?u=http-3A__dreamteam.netbeans.org&d=DwIBaQ&c=RoP1
> >>>> YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=8_Pz0x0SKeT5e3Iehh
> >>>> QKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4&m=zHWSbFaUuKirwQ8vRavUO00Ffo7WB-Uk
> >>>> vN7OGiTAVsg&s=yALfOqoY4wD1i3d3tuko3fT5FFkbMPXNopzJAqTypsg&e=
> >>>> * Community Leader NetBeans: https://urldefense.proofpoint.
> >>>> com/v2/url?u=http-3A__community.java.net_netbeans&d=DwIBaQ&
> >>>> c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=8_Pz0x0SKeT5
> >>>> e3IehhQKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4&m=zHWSbFaUuKirwQ8vRavUO00Ffo
> >>>> 7WB-UkvN7OGiTAVsg&s=KKiK59UU5fLAkDyYuIgMC6RDyCialKJ-tcPb8NxIbho&e=
> >>>> Desktop Java:
> >>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__communit
> >>>> y.java.net_javadesktop&d=DwIBaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8P
> >>>> Zh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=8_Pz0x0SKeT5e3IehhQKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU
> >>>> 133NrdP4&m=zHWSbFaUuKirwQ8vRavUO00Ffo7WB-UkvN7OGiTAVsg&s=UzK
> >>>> HGz2UVDVSL7EWIpK4Ojn9wlGldGXhnFyH4l9vwmM&e=
> >>>> * JUG Leader JUG Bodensee: https://urldefense.proofpoint.
> >>>> com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.jug-2Dbodensee.de&d=DwIBaQ&c=RoP1Y
> >>>> umCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=8_Pz0x0SKeT5e3IehhQ
> >>>> KCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4&m=zHWSbFaUuKirwQ8vRavUO00Ffo7WB-Ukv
> >>>> N7OGiTAVsg&s=Sg241RPz30uNaVTCeQH6SHmxcMZI9R-cBuqXfx2VV8U&e=
> >>>> * Duke's Choice Award Winner 2009
> >>>>
> >>>> * XING: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.xin
> >>>> g.com_profile_Sven-5FReimers8&d=DwIBaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR
> >>>> 8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=8_Pz0x0SKeT5e3IehhQKCbQ2xl3tz40jn
> >>>> CU133NrdP4&m=zHWSbFaUuKirwQ8vRavUO00Ffo7WB-UkvN7OGiTAVsg&s=O
> >>>> l2vCJuWvCaGGtZ037iNX6Bg_1rfmYzHF6WmxzcEdhc&e=
> >>>> * LinkedIn: https://urldefense.proofpoint.
> >>>> com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.linkedin.com_in_svenreimers&d=DwIB
> >>>> aQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=8_Pz0x0SK
> >>>> eT5e3IehhQKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4&m=zHWSbFaUuKirwQ8vRavUO00
> >>>> Ffo7WB-UkvN7OGiTAVsg&s=ccuz-wEBFs2ZNUOheS1KW2dEsXYT8_s2xBt9BQltK3w&e=
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
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Re: What's next?
Posted by Glenn Holmer <ce...@kolabnow.com>.
On 05/16/2018 04:41 PM, joe schmo wrote:
> Is 9.0 coming soon?
>
> https://twitter.com/gholmer/status/996423776530259969
Yes.
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Re: What's next?
Posted by Glenn Holmer <ce...@kolabnow.com>.
On 05/16/2018 04:41 PM, joe schmo wrote:
> Is 9.0 coming soon?
https://blogs.apache.org/netbeans/entry/announce-apache-netbeans-incubating-91
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What's next?
Posted by Glenn Holmer <ce...@kolabnow.com>.
On 05/16/2018 04:41 PM, joe schmo wrote:
> Is 9.0 coming soon?
>
> https://twitter.com/gholmer/status/996423776530259969
You can build the first RC from source and vote on its release on the
dev list:
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/c2a06adc83e2819e6d96c7dff8d0e22a97001f99bfda12515d4d9609@%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E
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Re: What's next?
Posted by joe schmo <ge...@hotmail.com>.
Is 9.0 coming soon?
https://twitter.com/gholmer/status/996423776530259969
________________________________
From: Jiří Kovalský <ji...@oracle.com>
Sent: May 9, 2018 8:09:56 PM
To: netcat@netbeans.apache.org
Subject: Re: What's next?
And the https://netbeans-vm.apache.org/uc/9.0/updates.xml.gz now exists.
Let's merge Jan's pull request #40 [1].
[1] https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans-website/pull/40
-Jirka
Dne 9.5.2018 v 23:51 Jan Lahoda napsal(a):
> Thanks Neil. I've submitted:
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_apache_incubator-2Dnetbeans-2Dwebsite_pull_40&d=DwIBaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=8_Pz0x0SKeT5e3IehhQKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4&m=DCDzDtm5MQ7ZRcf5PBwahm41N8r4L9sEbDChyJuHkvM&s=36ZLr9UN3BVmizl6n7wPvTbJKh12riqQfoTEs_u9TfM&e=
>
> Not really sure if I did it correctly, though. The target of the redirect
> does not exist yet. I added "updates" to the URL as well, so the path is:
> /nb/updates/9.0/
> (e.g. /nb/updates/9.0/updates.xml.gz ->
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__netbeans-2Dvm.apache.org_uc_9.0_updates.xml.gz&d=DwIBaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=8_Pz0x0SKeT5e3IehhQKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4&m=DCDzDtm5MQ7ZRcf5PBwahm41N8r4L9sEbDChyJuHkvM&s=Jrz3gv10Ff6POCpSTMr3DIMZ47c_g5oU5O1PJTlOrSo&e=)
>
> Jan
>
>
> On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 4:18 PM, Neil C Smith <ne...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Mon, 7 May 2018 at 16:03 Jan Lahoda <la...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> A small tweak to the plan I'd like to propose: I think it would be good to
>>> use a nice scheme for the update URLs, something like:
>>> http(s)://netbeans.apache.org/updates/9.0/updates.xml.gz
>>>
>>> This then would redirect to netbeans-vm. I hope we could keep this URL
>>> stable for a long time, even if we need to change the underlying server or
>>> something else.
>>>
>>> Any opinions on the URL scheme? Should I send a PR to setup such a
>>> redirect
>>> (pointing to the location on netbeans-vm Jiri proposed)?
>>>
>>>
>> Yes! Can we put this at https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__netbeans.apache.org_nb_9.0_updates.xml.gz&d=DwIBaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=8_Pz0x0SKeT5e3IehhQKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4&m=DCDzDtm5MQ7ZRcf5PBwahm41N8r4L9sEbDChyJuHkvM&s=RYwr11LXF_LaizQS3fKbLsUkinVap9ep8UuDIB3jMbI&e=
>> ?
>>
>> As per discussion around issues link, I was suggesting getting everything
>> inbound from the IDE under a common base path (eg /nb at the moment, but
>> this can change). Gives us a bit more flexibility around routing /
>> redirecting, etc. later.
>>
>> Also, IMO https should not be optional.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Neil
>>
>>
>> --
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Re: What's next?
Posted by Jiří Kovalský <ji...@oracle.com>.
And the https://netbeans-vm.apache.org/uc/9.0/updates.xml.gz now exists.
Let's merge Jan's pull request #40 [1].
[1] https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans-website/pull/40
-Jirka
Dne 9.5.2018 v 23:51 Jan Lahoda napsal(a):
> Thanks Neil. I've submitted:
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_apache_incubator-2Dnetbeans-2Dwebsite_pull_40&d=DwIBaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=8_Pz0x0SKeT5e3IehhQKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4&m=DCDzDtm5MQ7ZRcf5PBwahm41N8r4L9sEbDChyJuHkvM&s=36ZLr9UN3BVmizl6n7wPvTbJKh12riqQfoTEs_u9TfM&e=
>
> Not really sure if I did it correctly, though. The target of the redirect
> does not exist yet. I added "updates" to the URL as well, so the path is:
> /nb/updates/9.0/
> (e.g. /nb/updates/9.0/updates.xml.gz ->
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__netbeans-2Dvm.apache.org_uc_9.0_updates.xml.gz&d=DwIBaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=8_Pz0x0SKeT5e3IehhQKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4&m=DCDzDtm5MQ7ZRcf5PBwahm41N8r4L9sEbDChyJuHkvM&s=Jrz3gv10Ff6POCpSTMr3DIMZ47c_g5oU5O1PJTlOrSo&e=)
>
> Jan
>
>
> On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 4:18 PM, Neil C Smith <ne...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Mon, 7 May 2018 at 16:03 Jan Lahoda <la...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> A small tweak to the plan I'd like to propose: I think it would be good to
>>> use a nice scheme for the update URLs, something like:
>>> http(s)://netbeans.apache.org/updates/9.0/updates.xml.gz
>>>
>>> This then would redirect to netbeans-vm. I hope we could keep this URL
>>> stable for a long time, even if we need to change the underlying server or
>>> something else.
>>>
>>> Any opinions on the URL scheme? Should I send a PR to setup such a
>>> redirect
>>> (pointing to the location on netbeans-vm Jiri proposed)?
>>>
>>>
>> Yes! Can we put this at https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__netbeans.apache.org_nb_9.0_updates.xml.gz&d=DwIBaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=8_Pz0x0SKeT5e3IehhQKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4&m=DCDzDtm5MQ7ZRcf5PBwahm41N8r4L9sEbDChyJuHkvM&s=RYwr11LXF_LaizQS3fKbLsUkinVap9ep8UuDIB3jMbI&e=
>> ?
>>
>> As per discussion around issues link, I was suggesting getting everything
>> inbound from the IDE under a common base path (eg /nb at the moment, but
>> this can change). Gives us a bit more flexibility around routing /
>> redirecting, etc. later.
>>
>> Also, IMO https should not be optional.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Neil
>>
>>
>> --
>> Neil C Smith
>> Artist & Technologist
>> www.neilcsmith.net
>>
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Re: What's next?
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com>.
Ah, great.
Gj
On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 10:28 AM, Neil C Smith <ne...@apache.org>
wrote:
> On Thu, 10 May 2018 at 09:16 Geertjan Wielenga <
> geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> Fine from my point of view and sorry for merging too fast, let's also wait
>> to see what others say here.
>>
>
> You didn't merge it! ;-)
>
> As long as the link that goes in the IDE release is correct, we can fix
> everything else in post-production!
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Neil
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Re: What's next?
Posted by Neil C Smith <ne...@apache.org>.
On Thu, 10 May 2018 at 09:16 Geertjan Wielenga <
geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Fine from my point of view and sorry for merging too fast, let's also wait
> to see what others say here.
>
You didn't merge it! ;-)
As long as the link that goes in the IDE release is correct, we can fix
everything else in post-production!
Best wishes,
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Re: What's next?
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com>.
Fine from my point of view and sorry for merging too fast, let's also wait
to see what others say here.
Gj
On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 10:10 AM, Neil C Smith <ne...@apache.org>
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, 9 May 2018 at 22:51 Jan Lahoda <la...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Thanks Neil. I've submitted:
> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans-website/pull/40
> >
> > Not really sure if I did it correctly, though. The target of the redirect
> > does not exist yet. I added "updates" to the URL as well, so the path is:
> > /nb/updates/9.0/
> > (e.g. /nb/updates/9.0/updates.xml.gz ->
> > http://netbeans-vm.apache.org/uc/9.0/updates.xml.gz)
> >
>
> Thanks! Just made a comment on the (already merged) PR, but that redirect
> should be to https I believe?
>
> Also, I'd personally prefer nb/9.0/updates to try and keep all version
> specific links under a common root too.
>
> I can edit either / both now if agreed?
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Neil
> --
> Neil C Smith
> Artist & Technologist
> www.neilcsmith.net
>
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>
Re: What's next?
Posted by Neil C Smith <ne...@apache.org>.
On Thu, 10 May 2018 at 10:47 Neil C Smith <ne...@apache.org> wrote:
> I'll just put in a PR to change the link path for now then, and we can
> look at https later.
>
Actually, was just about to do this, but if we're not revising the http
link now, maybe let's keep it as you put it? There are pros and cons to
both options, but perhaps it's more likely we'd look to blanket redirect
/nb/updates/* in future anyway.
Sorry for the noise! :-)
Best wishes,
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Re: What's next?
Posted by Neil C Smith <ne...@apache.org>.
On Thu, 10 May 2018 at 10:32 Jan Lahoda <la...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 10:10 AM, Neil C Smith <ne...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > Thanks! Just made a comment on the (already merged) PR, but that
> redirect
> > should be to https I believe?
> >
>
> Eventually, probably yes. But http is better for now IMO: at least some of
> the Apache mirrors use http, and we may need to redirect to them. So we
> need to test if everything works correctly (quite possibly not) when going
> from https to http. Unless we can convince Apache that all mirrors should
> run on https, of course.
>
Well, we probably should try! ;-) But OK fair enough, let's keep it as is
for now. This came up a few times on the list IIRC around the nb-javac
install, although that was also to do with the self-signed certificate I
think?
Alongside signing do we have support for checking checksums in the update
process? This might also be useful in future if third-party modules need
to be hosted elsewhere?
I'll just put in a PR to change the link path for now then, and we can look
at https later.
Best wishes,
Neil
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Re: What's next?
Posted by Jan Lahoda <la...@gmail.com>.
On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 10:10 AM, Neil C Smith <ne...@apache.org>
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, 9 May 2018 at 22:51 Jan Lahoda <la...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Thanks Neil. I've submitted:
> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans-website/pull/40
> >
> > Not really sure if I did it correctly, though. The target of the redirect
> > does not exist yet. I added "updates" to the URL as well, so the path is:
> > /nb/updates/9.0/
> > (e.g. /nb/updates/9.0/updates.xml.gz ->
> > http://netbeans-vm.apache.org/uc/9.0/updates.xml.gz)
> >
>
> Thanks! Just made a comment on the (already merged) PR, but that redirect
> should be to https I believe?
>
Eventually, probably yes. But http is better for now IMO: at least some of
the Apache mirrors use http, and we may need to redirect to them. So we
need to test if everything works correctly (quite possibly not) when going
from https to http. Unless we can convince Apache that all mirrors should
run on https, of course.
>
> Also, I'd personally prefer nb/9.0/updates to try and keep all version
> specific links under a common root too.
>
Ok with me.
> I can edit either / both now if agreed?
>
Thanks,
Jan
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Neil
> --
> Neil C Smith
> Artist & Technologist
> www.neilcsmith.net
>
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>
Re: What's next?
Posted by Neil C Smith <ne...@apache.org>.
Hi,
On Wed, 9 May 2018 at 22:51 Jan Lahoda <la...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks Neil. I've submitted:
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans-website/pull/40
>
> Not really sure if I did it correctly, though. The target of the redirect
> does not exist yet. I added "updates" to the URL as well, so the path is:
> /nb/updates/9.0/
> (e.g. /nb/updates/9.0/updates.xml.gz ->
> http://netbeans-vm.apache.org/uc/9.0/updates.xml.gz)
>
Thanks! Just made a comment on the (already merged) PR, but that redirect
should be to https I believe?
Also, I'd personally prefer nb/9.0/updates to try and keep all version
specific links under a common root too.
I can edit either / both now if agreed?
Best wishes,
Neil
--
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Artist & Technologist
www.neilcsmith.net
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Re: What's next?
Posted by Jan Lahoda <la...@gmail.com>.
Thanks Neil. I've submitted:
https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans-website/pull/40
Not really sure if I did it correctly, though. The target of the redirect
does not exist yet. I added "updates" to the URL as well, so the path is:
/nb/updates/9.0/
(e.g. /nb/updates/9.0/updates.xml.gz ->
http://netbeans-vm.apache.org/uc/9.0/updates.xml.gz)
Jan
On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 4:18 PM, Neil C Smith <ne...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Mon, 7 May 2018 at 16:03 Jan Lahoda <la...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> A small tweak to the plan I'd like to propose: I think it would be good to
>> use a nice scheme for the update URLs, something like:
>> http(s)://netbeans.apache.org/updates/9.0/updates.xml.gz
>>
>> This then would redirect to netbeans-vm. I hope we could keep this URL
>> stable for a long time, even if we need to change the underlying server or
>> something else.
>>
>> Any opinions on the URL scheme? Should I send a PR to setup such a
>> redirect
>> (pointing to the location on netbeans-vm Jiri proposed)?
>>
>>
> Yes! Can we put this at https://netbeans.apache.org/nb/9.0/updates.xml.gz
> ?
>
> As per discussion around issues link, I was suggesting getting everything
> inbound from the IDE under a common base path (eg /nb at the moment, but
> this can change). Gives us a bit more flexibility around routing /
> redirecting, etc. later.
>
> Also, IMO https should not be optional.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Neil
>
>
> --
> Neil C Smith
> Artist & Technologist
> www.neilcsmith.net
>
> Praxis LIVE - hybrid visual IDE for creative coding - www.praxislive.org
>
Re: What's next?
Posted by Neil C Smith <ne...@apache.org>.
Hi,
On Mon, 7 May 2018 at 16:03 Jan Lahoda <la...@gmail.com> wrote:
> A small tweak to the plan I'd like to propose: I think it would be good to
> use a nice scheme for the update URLs, something like:
> http(s)://netbeans.apache.org/updates/9.0/updates.xml.gz
>
> This then would redirect to netbeans-vm. I hope we could keep this URL
> stable for a long time, even if we need to change the underlying server or
> something else.
>
> Any opinions on the URL scheme? Should I send a PR to setup such a redirect
> (pointing to the location on netbeans-vm Jiri proposed)?
>
>
Yes! Can we put this at https://netbeans.apache.org/nb/9.0/updates.xml.gz ?
As per discussion around issues link, I was suggesting getting everything
inbound from the IDE under a common base path (eg /nb at the moment, but
this can change). Gives us a bit more flexibility around routing /
redirecting, etc. later.
Also, IMO https should not be optional.
Best wishes,
Neil
--
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Artist & Technologist
www.neilcsmith.net
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Re: What's next?
Posted by Jan Lahoda <la...@gmail.com>.
On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 3:46 PM, Jiří Kovalský <ji...@oracle.com>
wrote:
> Dne 6.5.2018 v 21:34 Sven Reimers napsal(a):
>
> Hi Jan,
>>
>> thanks for clarifying.
>>
>> So for NETBEANS-330 building a release candidate would be a good idea. I
>> aggree.
>>
>
> Yes, so should I simply publish the latest module catalog [1] on our
> NetBeans VM for example as [2] that will be used in 9.0 branding module
> when 9.0 branch will be created?
>
> [1] https://builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-linux/lastS
> uccessfulBuild/artifact/nbbuild/nbms/updates.xml.gz
> [2] http://netbeans-vm.apache.org/uc/9.0/updates.xml.gz
>
> This way we will find out if:
>
> * we are able to collect the usage tracking data and update the parsing
> script if it works
> * forwarding to the mirror network works
>
> Opinions?
>
A small tweak to the plan I'd like to propose: I think it would be good to
use a nice scheme for the update URLs, something like:
http(s)://netbeans.apache.org/updates/9.0/updates.xml.gz
This then would redirect to netbeans-vm. I hope we could keep this URL
stable for a long time, even if we need to change the underlying server or
something else.
Any opinions on the URL scheme? Should I send a PR to setup such a redirect
(pointing to the location on netbeans-vm Jiri proposed)?
Thanks,
Jan
>
> -Jirka
>
> Regarding the NETBEANS-467, why do we need all external binaries in the
>> Apache repository? I thought we wil just publish our build result?
>>
>> Seems there is still some work left before we get a release..
>>
>> -Sven
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Jan Lahoda <la...@gmail.com> schrieb am So., 6. Mai 2018, 21:16:
>>
>> Regarding NETBEANS-330
>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__
>>> issues.apache.org_jira_browse_NETBEANS-2D330&d=DwIBaQ&c=RoP1
>>> YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=8_Pz0x0SKeT5e3Iehh
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>>> vN7OGiTAVsg&s=6hXkF4GOvPA8lwUFHGR55su9OFxV47OlRWEp3pgHTvk&e=>, we can
>>> build the
>>> update center now, and if/when we setup a location for the update center
>>> (presumably redirecting somewhere), we can set that to the IDE, and see
>>> what happens. But to test this fully, a release would be good, so that we
>>> can redirect to mirrors and see what happens (and I suspect it may not
>>> work
>>> on the first try).
>>>
>>> Regarding NETBEANS-467
>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__
>>> issues.apache.org_jira_browse_NETBEANS-2D467&d=DwIBaQ&c=RoP1
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>>> vN7OGiTAVsg&s=rakhRk2-d4uQ7VrfIGAWcrAhjoMJOtHZ8upXusEVfZA&e=>, I think
>>> the
>>>
>>> situation is much less clear. At very least, it seems we will need
>>> INFRA-16435 to be resolved, and ensure all external binaries used by (at
>>> least) platform are on Maven central. I guess it would be ideal if
>>> someone
>>> using Maven and NB platform (and hence knowing the end goal) would drive
>>> this.
>>>
>>> Jan
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 7:22 PM, Sven Reimers <sv...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> So with 620 out of the way - what about the two remaining blockers - they
>>>> are not assigned to anyone at the moment.
>>>>
>>>> I am under the impression that Jan was working on both of them - am I
>>>> wrong?
>>>>
>>>> Anything I could help with?
>>>>
>>>> -Sven
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 5:44 PM Sven Reimers <sv...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for testing Glenn...
>>>>>
>>>>> Sven
>>>>>
>>>>> Glenn Holmer <ce...@kolabnow.com> schrieb am So., 6. Mai 2018, 17:37:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 05/06/2018 09:25 AM, Sven Reimers wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> SQLProfiler shows results if profiled process is run using JDK 10..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pulled PR locally, built and tested. I can confirm I get SQL profiling
>>>>>> results under JDK 10 here as well.
>>>>>>
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Re: What's next?
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com>.
Makes sense to me and very curious if that will work, would be a great
solution.
Gj
On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 3:46 PM, Jiří Kovalský <ji...@oracle.com>
wrote:
> Dne 6.5.2018 v 21:34 Sven Reimers napsal(a):
>
> Hi Jan,
>>
>> thanks for clarifying.
>>
>> So for NETBEANS-330 building a release candidate would be a good idea. I
>> aggree.
>>
>
> Yes, so should I simply publish the latest module catalog [1] on our
> NetBeans VM for example as [2] that will be used in 9.0 branding module
> when 9.0 branch will be created?
>
> [1] https://builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-linux/lastS
> uccessfulBuild/artifact/nbbuild/nbms/updates.xml.gz
> [2] http://netbeans-vm.apache.org/uc/9.0/updates.xml.gz
>
> This way we will find out if:
>
> * we are able to collect the usage tracking data and update the parsing
> script if it works
> * forwarding to the mirror network works
>
> Opinions?
>
> -Jirka
>
> Regarding the NETBEANS-467, why do we need all external binaries in the
>> Apache repository? I thought we wil just publish our build result?
>>
>> Seems there is still some work left before we get a release..
>>
>> -Sven
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Jan Lahoda <la...@gmail.com> schrieb am So., 6. Mai 2018, 21:16:
>>
>> Regarding NETBEANS-330
>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__
>>> issues.apache.org_jira_browse_NETBEANS-2D330&d=DwIBaQ&c=RoP1
>>> YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=8_Pz0x0SKeT5e3Iehh
>>> QKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4&m=zHWSbFaUuKirwQ8vRavUO00Ffo7WB-Uk
>>> vN7OGiTAVsg&s=6hXkF4GOvPA8lwUFHGR55su9OFxV47OlRWEp3pgHTvk&e=>, we can
>>> build the
>>> update center now, and if/when we setup a location for the update center
>>> (presumably redirecting somewhere), we can set that to the IDE, and see
>>> what happens. But to test this fully, a release would be good, so that we
>>> can redirect to mirrors and see what happens (and I suspect it may not
>>> work
>>> on the first try).
>>>
>>> Regarding NETBEANS-467
>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__
>>> issues.apache.org_jira_browse_NETBEANS-2D467&d=DwIBaQ&c=RoP1
>>> YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=8_Pz0x0SKeT5e3Iehh
>>> QKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4&m=zHWSbFaUuKirwQ8vRavUO00Ffo7WB-Uk
>>> vN7OGiTAVsg&s=rakhRk2-d4uQ7VrfIGAWcrAhjoMJOtHZ8upXusEVfZA&e=>, I think
>>> the
>>>
>>> situation is much less clear. At very least, it seems we will need
>>> INFRA-16435 to be resolved, and ensure all external binaries used by (at
>>> least) platform are on Maven central. I guess it would be ideal if
>>> someone
>>> using Maven and NB platform (and hence knowing the end goal) would drive
>>> this.
>>>
>>> Jan
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 7:22 PM, Sven Reimers <sv...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> So with 620 out of the way - what about the two remaining blockers - they
>>>> are not assigned to anyone at the moment.
>>>>
>>>> I am under the impression that Jan was working on both of them - am I
>>>> wrong?
>>>>
>>>> Anything I could help with?
>>>>
>>>> -Sven
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 5:44 PM Sven Reimers <sv...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for testing Glenn...
>>>>>
>>>>> Sven
>>>>>
>>>>> Glenn Holmer <ce...@kolabnow.com> schrieb am So., 6. Mai 2018, 17:37:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 05/06/2018 09:25 AM, Sven Reimers wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> SQLProfiler shows results if profiled process is run using JDK 10..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pulled PR locally, built and tested. I can confirm I get SQL profiling
>>>>>> results under JDK 10 here as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682)
>>>>>> "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: netcat-unsubscribe@netbeans.apache.org
>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: netcat-help@netbeans.apache.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit:
>>>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__cwiki.a
>>>>>> pache.org_confluence_display_NETBEANS_Mailing-2Blists&d=DwIB
>>>>>> aQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=8_Pz0x0SK
>>>>>> eT5e3IehhQKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4&m=zHWSbFaUuKirwQ8vRavUO00
>>>>>> Ffo7WB-UkvN7OGiTAVsg&s=Ej7hwtLqmgDkAacEw8HUFMzcw8JYap1tKHzUKnovIT8&e=
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Sven Reimers
>>>>
>>>> * Senior Expert Software Architect
>>>> * Java Champion
>>>> * NetBeans Dream Team Member: https://urldefense.proofpoint.
>>>> com/v2/url?u=http-3A__dreamteam.netbeans.org&d=DwIBaQ&c=RoP1
>>>> YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=8_Pz0x0SKeT5e3Iehh
>>>> QKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4&m=zHWSbFaUuKirwQ8vRavUO00Ffo7WB-Uk
>>>> vN7OGiTAVsg&s=yALfOqoY4wD1i3d3tuko3fT5FFkbMPXNopzJAqTypsg&e=
>>>> * Community Leader NetBeans: https://urldefense.proofpoint.
>>>> com/v2/url?u=http-3A__community.java.net_netbeans&d=DwIBaQ&
>>>> c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=8_Pz0x0SKeT5
>>>> e3IehhQKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4&m=zHWSbFaUuKirwQ8vRavUO00Ffo
>>>> 7WB-UkvN7OGiTAVsg&s=KKiK59UU5fLAkDyYuIgMC6RDyCialKJ-tcPb8NxIbho&e=
>>>> Desktop Java:
>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__communit
>>>> y.java.net_javadesktop&d=DwIBaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8P
>>>> Zh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=8_Pz0x0SKeT5e3IehhQKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU
>>>> 133NrdP4&m=zHWSbFaUuKirwQ8vRavUO00Ffo7WB-UkvN7OGiTAVsg&s=UzK
>>>> HGz2UVDVSL7EWIpK4Ojn9wlGldGXhnFyH4l9vwmM&e=
>>>> * JUG Leader JUG Bodensee: https://urldefense.proofpoint.
>>>> com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.jug-2Dbodensee.de&d=DwIBaQ&c=RoP1Y
>>>> umCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=8_Pz0x0SKeT5e3IehhQ
>>>> KCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4&m=zHWSbFaUuKirwQ8vRavUO00Ffo7WB-Ukv
>>>> N7OGiTAVsg&s=Sg241RPz30uNaVTCeQH6SHmxcMZI9R-cBuqXfx2VV8U&e=
>>>> * Duke's Choice Award Winner 2009
>>>>
>>>> * XING: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.xin
>>>> g.com_profile_Sven-5FReimers8&d=DwIBaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR
>>>> 8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=8_Pz0x0SKeT5e3IehhQKCbQ2xl3tz40jn
>>>> CU133NrdP4&m=zHWSbFaUuKirwQ8vRavUO00Ffo7WB-UkvN7OGiTAVsg&s=O
>>>> l2vCJuWvCaGGtZ037iNX6Bg_1rfmYzHF6WmxzcEdhc&e=
>>>> * LinkedIn: https://urldefense.proofpoint.
>>>> com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.linkedin.com_in_svenreimers&d=DwIB
>>>> aQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=8_Pz0x0SK
>>>> eT5e3IehhQKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4&m=zHWSbFaUuKirwQ8vRavUO00
>>>> Ffo7WB-UkvN7OGiTAVsg&s=ccuz-wEBFs2ZNUOheS1KW2dEsXYT8_s2xBt9BQltK3w&e=
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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Re: What's next?
Posted by Jiří Kovalský <ji...@oracle.com>.
Dne 6.5.2018 v 21:34 Sven Reimers napsal(a):
> Hi Jan,
>
> thanks for clarifying.
>
> So for NETBEANS-330 building a release candidate would be a good idea. I
> aggree.
Yes, so should I simply publish the latest module catalog [1] on our
NetBeans VM for example as [2] that will be used in 9.0 branding module
when 9.0 branch will be created?
[1]
https://builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-linux/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/nbbuild/nbms/updates.xml.gz
[2] http://netbeans-vm.apache.org/uc/9.0/updates.xml.gz
This way we will find out if:
* we are able to collect the usage tracking data and update the parsing
script if it works
* forwarding to the mirror network works
Opinions?
-Jirka
> Regarding the NETBEANS-467, why do we need all external binaries in the
> Apache repository? I thought we wil just publish our build result?
>
> Seems there is still some work left before we get a release..
>
> -Sven
>
>
>
>
> Jan Lahoda <la...@gmail.com> schrieb am So., 6. Mai 2018, 21:16:
>
>> Regarding NETBEANS-330
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__issues.apache.org_jira_browse_NETBEANS-2D330&d=DwIBaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=8_Pz0x0SKeT5e3IehhQKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4&m=zHWSbFaUuKirwQ8vRavUO00Ffo7WB-UkvN7OGiTAVsg&s=6hXkF4GOvPA8lwUFHGR55su9OFxV47OlRWEp3pgHTvk&e=>, we can build the
>> update center now, and if/when we setup a location for the update center
>> (presumably redirecting somewhere), we can set that to the IDE, and see
>> what happens. But to test this fully, a release would be good, so that we
>> can redirect to mirrors and see what happens (and I suspect it may not work
>> on the first try).
>>
>> Regarding NETBEANS-467
>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__issues.apache.org_jira_browse_NETBEANS-2D467&d=DwIBaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=8_Pz0x0SKeT5e3IehhQKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4&m=zHWSbFaUuKirwQ8vRavUO00Ffo7WB-UkvN7OGiTAVsg&s=rakhRk2-d4uQ7VrfIGAWcrAhjoMJOtHZ8upXusEVfZA&e=>, I think the
>> situation is much less clear. At very least, it seems we will need
>> INFRA-16435 to be resolved, and ensure all external binaries used by (at
>> least) platform are on Maven central. I guess it would be ideal if someone
>> using Maven and NB platform (and hence knowing the end goal) would drive
>> this.
>>
>> Jan
>>
>>
>> On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 7:22 PM, Sven Reimers <sv...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> So with 620 out of the way - what about the two remaining blockers - they
>>> are not assigned to anyone at the moment.
>>>
>>> I am under the impression that Jan was working on both of them - am I
>>> wrong?
>>>
>>> Anything I could help with?
>>>
>>> -Sven
>>>
>>> On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 5:44 PM Sven Reimers <sv...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks for testing Glenn...
>>>>
>>>> Sven
>>>>
>>>> Glenn Holmer <ce...@kolabnow.com> schrieb am So., 6. Mai 2018, 17:37:
>>>>
>>>>> On 05/06/2018 09:25 AM, Sven Reimers wrote:
>>>>>> SQLProfiler shows results if profiled process is run using JDK 10..
>>>>>
>>>>> Pulled PR locally, built and tested. I can confirm I get SQL profiling
>>>>> results under JDK 10 here as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682)
>>>>> "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe."
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: netcat-unsubscribe@netbeans.apache.org
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Sven Reimers
>>>
>>> * Senior Expert Software Architect
>>> * Java Champion
>>> * NetBeans Dream Team Member: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__dreamteam.netbeans.org&d=DwIBaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=8_Pz0x0SKeT5e3IehhQKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4&m=zHWSbFaUuKirwQ8vRavUO00Ffo7WB-UkvN7OGiTAVsg&s=yALfOqoY4wD1i3d3tuko3fT5FFkbMPXNopzJAqTypsg&e=
>>> * Community Leader NetBeans: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__community.java.net_netbeans&d=DwIBaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=8_Pz0x0SKeT5e3IehhQKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4&m=zHWSbFaUuKirwQ8vRavUO00Ffo7WB-UkvN7OGiTAVsg&s=KKiK59UU5fLAkDyYuIgMC6RDyCialKJ-tcPb8NxIbho&e=
>>> Desktop Java:
>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__community.java.net_javadesktop&d=DwIBaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=8_Pz0x0SKeT5e3IehhQKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4&m=zHWSbFaUuKirwQ8vRavUO00Ffo7WB-UkvN7OGiTAVsg&s=UzKHGz2UVDVSL7EWIpK4Ojn9wlGldGXhnFyH4l9vwmM&e=
>>> * JUG Leader JUG Bodensee: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.jug-2Dbodensee.de&d=DwIBaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=8_Pz0x0SKeT5e3IehhQKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4&m=zHWSbFaUuKirwQ8vRavUO00Ffo7WB-UkvN7OGiTAVsg&s=Sg241RPz30uNaVTCeQH6SHmxcMZI9R-cBuqXfx2VV8U&e=
>>> * Duke's Choice Award Winner 2009
>>>
>>> * XING: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.xing.com_profile_Sven-5FReimers8&d=DwIBaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=8_Pz0x0SKeT5e3IehhQKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4&m=zHWSbFaUuKirwQ8vRavUO00Ffo7WB-UkvN7OGiTAVsg&s=Ol2vCJuWvCaGGtZ037iNX6Bg_1rfmYzHF6WmxzcEdhc&e=
>>> * LinkedIn: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.linkedin.com_in_svenreimers&d=DwIBaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=8_Pz0x0SKeT5e3IehhQKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4&m=zHWSbFaUuKirwQ8vRavUO00Ffo7WB-UkvN7OGiTAVsg&s=ccuz-wEBFs2ZNUOheS1KW2dEsXYT8_s2xBt9BQltK3w&e=
>>>
>>
>>
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Re: What's next?
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com>.
Well, it's about being able to generate Mavenized NetBeans Platform
archetypes, i.e., for creating a new application and module.
Gj
On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 9:34 PM, Sven Reimers <sv...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Jan,
>
> thanks for clarifying.
>
> So for NETBEANS-330 building a release candidate would be a good idea. I
> aggree.
>
> Regarding the NETBEANS-467, why do we need all external binaries in the
> Apache repository? I thought we wil just publish our build result?
>
> Seems there is still some work left before we get a release..
>
> -Sven
>
>
>
>
> Jan Lahoda <la...@gmail.com> schrieb am So., 6. Mai 2018, 21:16:
>
> > Regarding NETBEANS-330
> > <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-330>, we can build the
> > update center now, and if/when we setup a location for the update center
> > (presumably redirecting somewhere), we can set that to the IDE, and see
> > what happens. But to test this fully, a release would be good, so that we
> > can redirect to mirrors and see what happens (and I suspect it may not
> work
> > on the first try).
> >
> > Regarding NETBEANS-467
> > <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-467>, I think the
> > situation is much less clear. At very least, it seems we will need
> > INFRA-16435 to be resolved, and ensure all external binaries used by (at
> > least) platform are on Maven central. I guess it would be ideal if
> someone
> > using Maven and NB platform (and hence knowing the end goal) would drive
> > this.
> >
> > Jan
> >
> >
> > On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 7:22 PM, Sven Reimers <sv...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> So with 620 out of the way - what about the two remaining blockers -
> they
> >> are not assigned to anyone at the moment.
> >>
> >> I am under the impression that Jan was working on both of them - am I
> >> wrong?
> >>
> >> Anything I could help with?
> >>
> >> -Sven
> >>
> >> On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 5:44 PM Sven Reimers <sv...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Thanks for testing Glenn...
> >> >
> >> > Sven
> >> >
> >> > Glenn Holmer <ce...@kolabnow.com> schrieb am So., 6. Mai 2018, 17:37:
> >> >
> >> >> On 05/06/2018 09:25 AM, Sven Reimers wrote:
> >> >> > SQLProfiler shows results if profiled process is run using JDK 10..
> >> >>
> >> >> Pulled PR locally, built and tested. I can confirm I get SQL
> profiling
> >> >> results under JDK 10 here as well.
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682)
> >> >> "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe."
> >> >>
> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------
> ---------
> >> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: netcat-unsubscribe@netbeans.apache.org
> >> >> For additional commands, e-mail: netcat-help@netbeans.apache.org
> >> >>
> >> >> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit:
> >> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Sven Reimers
> >>
> >> * Senior Expert Software Architect
> >> * Java Champion
> >> * NetBeans Dream Team Member: http://dreamteam.netbeans.org
> >> * Community Leader NetBeans: http://community.java.net/netbeans
> >> Desktop Java:
> >> http://community.java.net/javadesktop
> >> * JUG Leader JUG Bodensee: http://www.jug-bodensee.de
> >> * Duke's Choice Award Winner 2009
> >>
> >> * XING: https://www.xing.com/profile/Sven_Reimers8
> >> * LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/svenreimers
> >>
> >
> >
>
Re: What's next?
Posted by Jan Lahoda <la...@gmail.com>.
On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 9:34 PM, Sven Reimers <sv...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Jan,
>
> thanks for clarifying.
>
> So for NETBEANS-330 building a release candidate would be a good idea. I
> aggree.
>
> Regarding the NETBEANS-467, why do we need all external binaries in the
> Apache repository? I thought we wil just publish our build result?
>
This:
https://www.apache.org/dev/repository-faq.html#thirdparty
Says:
---
Can we put third party files in the repositories?
You can with the snapshot repositories, but you cannot with the release
repositories. [snip]
---
So, from that, it seems to me external dependencies should not(?) be in our
part of the Maven repository.
Jan
>
> Seems there is still some work left before we get a release..
>
> -Sven
>
>
>
>
> Jan Lahoda <la...@gmail.com> schrieb am So., 6. Mai 2018, 21:16:
>
>> Regarding NETBEANS-330
>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-330>, we can build the
>> update center now, and if/when we setup a location for the update center
>> (presumably redirecting somewhere), we can set that to the IDE, and see
>> what happens. But to test this fully, a release would be good, so that we
>> can redirect to mirrors and see what happens (and I suspect it may not work
>> on the first try).
>>
>> Regarding NETBEANS-467
>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-467>, I think the
>> situation is much less clear. At very least, it seems we will need
>> INFRA-16435 to be resolved, and ensure all external binaries used by (at
>> least) platform are on Maven central. I guess it would be ideal if someone
>> using Maven and NB platform (and hence knowing the end goal) would drive
>> this.
>>
>> Jan
>>
>>
>> On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 7:22 PM, Sven Reimers <sv...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> So with 620 out of the way - what about the two remaining blockers - they
>>> are not assigned to anyone at the moment.
>>>
>>> I am under the impression that Jan was working on both of them - am I
>>> wrong?
>>>
>>> Anything I could help with?
>>>
>>> -Sven
>>>
>>> On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 5:44 PM Sven Reimers <sv...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Thanks for testing Glenn...
>>> >
>>> > Sven
>>> >
>>> > Glenn Holmer <ce...@kolabnow.com> schrieb am So., 6. Mai 2018, 17:37:
>>> >
>>> >> On 05/06/2018 09:25 AM, Sven Reimers wrote:
>>> >> > SQLProfiler shows results if profiled process is run using JDK 10..
>>> >>
>>> >> Pulled PR locally, built and tested. I can confirm I get SQL profiling
>>> >> results under JDK 10 here as well.
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >> Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682)
>>> >> "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe."
>>> >>
>>> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: netcat-unsubscribe@netbeans.apache.org
>>> >> For additional commands, e-mail: netcat-help@netbeans.apache.org
>>> >>
>>> >> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit:
>>> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Sven Reimers
>>>
>>> * Senior Expert Software Architect
>>> * Java Champion
>>> * NetBeans Dream Team Member: http://dreamteam.netbeans.org
>>> * Community Leader NetBeans: http://community.java.net/netbeans
>>> Desktop Java:
>>> http://community.java.net/javadesktop
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>>
>>
Re: What's next?
Posted by Sven Reimers <sv...@gmail.com>.
Hi Jan,
thanks for clarifying.
So for NETBEANS-330 building a release candidate would be a good idea. I
aggree.
Regarding the NETBEANS-467, why do we need all external binaries in the
Apache repository? I thought we wil just publish our build result?
Seems there is still some work left before we get a release..
-Sven
Jan Lahoda <la...@gmail.com> schrieb am So., 6. Mai 2018, 21:16:
> Regarding NETBEANS-330
> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-330>, we can build the
> update center now, and if/when we setup a location for the update center
> (presumably redirecting somewhere), we can set that to the IDE, and see
> what happens. But to test this fully, a release would be good, so that we
> can redirect to mirrors and see what happens (and I suspect it may not work
> on the first try).
>
> Regarding NETBEANS-467
> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-467>, I think the
> situation is much less clear. At very least, it seems we will need
> INFRA-16435 to be resolved, and ensure all external binaries used by (at
> least) platform are on Maven central. I guess it would be ideal if someone
> using Maven and NB platform (and hence knowing the end goal) would drive
> this.
>
> Jan
>
>
> On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 7:22 PM, Sven Reimers <sv...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> So with 620 out of the way - what about the two remaining blockers - they
>> are not assigned to anyone at the moment.
>>
>> I am under the impression that Jan was working on both of them - am I
>> wrong?
>>
>> Anything I could help with?
>>
>> -Sven
>>
>> On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 5:44 PM Sven Reimers <sv...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Thanks for testing Glenn...
>> >
>> > Sven
>> >
>> > Glenn Holmer <ce...@kolabnow.com> schrieb am So., 6. Mai 2018, 17:37:
>> >
>> >> On 05/06/2018 09:25 AM, Sven Reimers wrote:
>> >> > SQLProfiler shows results if profiled process is run using JDK 10..
>> >>
>> >> Pulled PR locally, built and tested. I can confirm I get SQL profiling
>> >> results under JDK 10 here as well.
>> >>
>> >> --
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>> >> "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe."
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>
Re: What's next?
Posted by Jan Lahoda <la...@gmail.com>.
Regarding NETBEANS-330 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-330>,
we can build the update center now, and if/when we setup a location for the
update center (presumably redirecting somewhere), we can set that to the
IDE, and see what happens. But to test this fully, a release would be good,
so that we can redirect to mirrors and see what happens (and I suspect it
may not work on the first try).
Regarding NETBEANS-467 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-467>,
I think the situation is much less clear. At very least, it seems we will
need INFRA-16435 to be resolved, and ensure all external binaries used by
(at least) platform are on Maven central. I guess it would be ideal if
someone using Maven and NB platform (and hence knowing the end goal) would
drive this.
Jan
On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 7:22 PM, Sven Reimers <sv...@gmail.com> wrote:
> So with 620 out of the way - what about the two remaining blockers - they
> are not assigned to anyone at the moment.
>
> I am under the impression that Jan was working on both of them - am I
> wrong?
>
> Anything I could help with?
>
> -Sven
>
> On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 5:44 PM Sven Reimers <sv...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Thanks for testing Glenn...
> >
> > Sven
> >
> > Glenn Holmer <ce...@kolabnow.com> schrieb am So., 6. Mai 2018, 17:37:
> >
> >> On 05/06/2018 09:25 AM, Sven Reimers wrote:
> >> > SQLProfiler shows results if profiled process is run using JDK 10..
> >>
> >> Pulled PR locally, built and tested. I can confirm I get SQL profiling
> >> results under JDK 10 here as well.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682)
> >> "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe."
> >>
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> >>
> >>
>
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Re: What's next?
Posted by Sven Reimers <sv...@gmail.com>.
So with 620 out of the way - what about the two remaining blockers - they
are not assigned to anyone at the moment.
I am under the impression that Jan was working on both of them - am I wrong?
Anything I could help with?
-Sven
On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 5:44 PM Sven Reimers <sv...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks for testing Glenn...
>
> Sven
>
> Glenn Holmer <ce...@kolabnow.com> schrieb am So., 6. Mai 2018, 17:37:
>
>> On 05/06/2018 09:25 AM, Sven Reimers wrote:
>> > SQLProfiler shows results if profiled process is run using JDK 10..
>>
>> Pulled PR locally, built and tested. I can confirm I get SQL profiling
>> results under JDK 10 here as well.
>>
>> --
>> Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682)
>> "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe."
>>
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Re: What's next?
Posted by Sven Reimers <sv...@gmail.com>.
Thanks for testing Glenn...
Sven
Glenn Holmer <ce...@kolabnow.com> schrieb am So., 6. Mai 2018, 17:37:
> On 05/06/2018 09:25 AM, Sven Reimers wrote:
> > SQLProfiler shows results if profiled process is run using JDK 10..
>
> Pulled PR locally, built and tested. I can confirm I get SQL profiling
> results under JDK 10 here as well.
>
> --
> Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682)
> "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe."
>
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Re: What's next?
Posted by Glenn Holmer <ce...@kolabnow.com>.
On 05/06/2018 09:25 AM, Sven Reimers wrote:
> SQLProfiler shows results if profiled process is run using JDK 10..
Pulled PR locally, built and tested. I can confirm I get SQL profiling
results under JDK 10 here as well.
--
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"After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe."
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Re: What's next?
Posted by Sven Reimers <sv...@gmail.com>.
Yes I fixed the symptom (least invasive fix I could come up with).
We should investigate the multiple classloader stuff further for the next
release.
It may make sense to split jfluid library into core things and stuff on
top, like the sql profiling. This would enhance visibility for API's needed
and provided so you know what and when you break stuff.
But SQLProfiler shows results if profiled process is run using JDK 10..
Sven
Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com> schrieb am So., 6. Mai
2018, 16:13:
> Wow, so you fixed the problem?
>
> Gj
>
> On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 3:52 PM, Sven Reimers <sv...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > PR for NETBEANS-620 is available. Please try / review.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Sven
> >
> > On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 9:21 AM Jiří Kovalský <ji...@oracle.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Yes, exactly. Once we resolve the blockers, we will build RC1 and open
> > > the Community Acceptance survey together with Apache release voting
> > > poll. If community says Go, we will release 9.0 GA.
> > >
> > > -Jirka
> > >
> > > Dne 1.5.2018 v 11:21 Geertjan Wielenga napsal(a):
> > >
> > > > At the very least the 3 remaining blockers need to be resolved in one
> > way
> > > > or another:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__issues.
> > apache.org_jira_issues_-3Ffilter-3D12343308&d=DwIBaQ&c=
> > RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=8_
> >
> Pz0x0SKeT5e3IehhQKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4&m=3SXISZDh6VRGmUoN2G6V0RsQMOWA1k
> > 9E2bCNnGn6G7A&s=ckrfBxuCrk4R42RTu9MvuCfzZQUZ4Tq-_ddS3dkr-oc&e=
> > > >
> > > > Gj
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 4:52 PM, Glenn Holmer <ce...@kolabnow.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> What are our next steps before 9.0 is released? The wiki says we
> will
> > do
> > > >> a Community Acceptance survey starting 2018-04-13.
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682)
> > > >> "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe."
> > > >>
> > > >>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > > >>
> > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__cwiki.
> > apache.org_confluence_display_NETBEANS_Mailing-2Blists&d=DwIBaQ&c=
> > RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=8_
> >
> Pz0x0SKeT5e3IehhQKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4&m=3SXISZDh6VRGmUoN2G6V0RsQMOWA1k
> > 9E2bCNnGn6G7A&s=0BhKNHOADcEwOYNnlkxSqAEIo5XuNg7Lt4tssZ4iF5g&e=
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
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> >
> > * Senior Expert Software Architect
> > * Java Champion
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> > * Community Leader NetBeans: http://community.java.net/netbeans
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> > http://community.java.net/javadesktop
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> > * Duke's Choice Award Winner 2009
> >
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> >
>
Re: What's next?
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com>.
Wow, so you fixed the problem?
Gj
On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 3:52 PM, Sven Reimers <sv...@gmail.com> wrote:
> PR for NETBEANS-620 is available. Please try / review.
>
> Thanks
>
> Sven
>
> On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 9:21 AM Jiří Kovalský <ji...@oracle.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Yes, exactly. Once we resolve the blockers, we will build RC1 and open
> > the Community Acceptance survey together with Apache release voting
> > poll. If community says Go, we will release 9.0 GA.
> >
> > -Jirka
> >
> > Dne 1.5.2018 v 11:21 Geertjan Wielenga napsal(a):
> >
> > > At the very least the 3 remaining blockers need to be resolved in one
> way
> > > or another:
> > >
> > >
> > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__issues.
> apache.org_jira_issues_-3Ffilter-3D12343308&d=DwIBaQ&c=
> RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=8_
> Pz0x0SKeT5e3IehhQKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4&m=3SXISZDh6VRGmUoN2G6V0RsQMOWA1k
> 9E2bCNnGn6G7A&s=ckrfBxuCrk4R42RTu9MvuCfzZQUZ4Tq-_ddS3dkr-oc&e=
> > >
> > > Gj
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 4:52 PM, Glenn Holmer <ce...@kolabnow.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> What are our next steps before 9.0 is released? The wiki says we will
> do
> > >> a Community Acceptance survey starting 2018-04-13.
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682)
> > >> "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe."
> > >>
> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > >>
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> > >>
> > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__cwiki.
> apache.org_confluence_display_NETBEANS_Mailing-2Blists&d=DwIBaQ&c=
> RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=8_
> Pz0x0SKeT5e3IehhQKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4&m=3SXISZDh6VRGmUoN2G6V0RsQMOWA1k
> 9E2bCNnGn6G7A&s=0BhKNHOADcEwOYNnlkxSqAEIo5XuNg7Lt4tssZ4iF5g&e=
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> >
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> >
>
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>
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>
Re: What's next?
Posted by Sven Reimers <sv...@gmail.com>.
PR for NETBEANS-620 is available. Please try / review.
Thanks
Sven
On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 9:21 AM Jiří Kovalský <ji...@oracle.com>
wrote:
> Yes, exactly. Once we resolve the blockers, we will build RC1 and open
> the Community Acceptance survey together with Apache release voting
> poll. If community says Go, we will release 9.0 GA.
>
> -Jirka
>
> Dne 1.5.2018 v 11:21 Geertjan Wielenga napsal(a):
>
> > At the very least the 3 remaining blockers need to be resolved in one way
> > or another:
> >
> >
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__issues.apache.org_jira_issues_-3Ffilter-3D12343308&d=DwIBaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=8_Pz0x0SKeT5e3IehhQKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4&m=3SXISZDh6VRGmUoN2G6V0RsQMOWA1k9E2bCNnGn6G7A&s=ckrfBxuCrk4R42RTu9MvuCfzZQUZ4Tq-_ddS3dkr-oc&e=
> >
> > Gj
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 4:52 PM, Glenn Holmer <ce...@kolabnow.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> What are our next steps before 9.0 is released? The wiki says we will do
> >> a Community Acceptance survey starting 2018-04-13.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682)
> >> "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe."
> >>
> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> >>
> >>
> >
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Re: What's next?
Posted by Jiří Kovalský <ji...@oracle.com>.
Yes, exactly. Once we resolve the blockers, we will build RC1 and open
the Community Acceptance survey together with Apache release voting
poll. If community says Go, we will release 9.0 GA.
-Jirka
Dne 1.5.2018 v 11:21 Geertjan Wielenga napsal(a):
> At the very least the 3 remaining blockers need to be resolved in one way
> or another:
>
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__issues.apache.org_jira_issues_-3Ffilter-3D12343308&d=DwIBaQ&c=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=8_Pz0x0SKeT5e3IehhQKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4&m=3SXISZDh6VRGmUoN2G6V0RsQMOWA1k9E2bCNnGn6G7A&s=ckrfBxuCrk4R42RTu9MvuCfzZQUZ4Tq-_ddS3dkr-oc&e=
>
> Gj
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 4:52 PM, Glenn Holmer <ce...@kolabnow.com> wrote:
>
>> What are our next steps before 9.0 is released? The wiki says we will do
>> a Community Acceptance survey starting 2018-04-13.
>>
>> --
>> Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682)
>> "After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe."
>>
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>>
>>
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