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NNTP Product [WAS Re: Removing Cornerstone sockets in favor of MINA]
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Stefano Bagnara <ap...@bago.org> wrote:
> 2010/1/17 Norman Maurer <no...@googlemail.com>:
>> Ok, I have now every implementation in place except one for
>> nntpserver. To be hornest I would be +1 for just remove the whole
>> nntpserver stuff. IMHO, its just a left over from the "old days" and
>> not maintained anyway. I don't think anyone is using it anyway. So
>> what about just remove the whole nntpserver stuff . If we really find
>> some usecase we can "merge" it back later.
>
> +1 nntp has always been very basic and its storage was not compatible
> with pop3, so it is mainly some protocol code. It doesn't support most
> stuff one would expect from an nntp server, so it is ok to remove it
> and if anyone will ever need that he will help reintegrating the
> protocol back.
i'm starting to factor out an NNTP product. if anyone wants me to
leave NNTP in trunk, shout very soon.
- robert
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Re: NNTP Product [WAS Re: Removing Cornerstone sockets in favor of
MINA]
Posted by Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com>.
On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Norman Maurer
<no...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Thx again,
>
> do you plan to work on imap and james mailrepository too ?
not today
- robert
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Re: NNTP Product [WAS Re: Removing Cornerstone sockets in favor of
MINA]
Posted by Norman Maurer <no...@googlemail.com>.
Thx again,
do you plan to work on imap and james mailrepository too ?
Bye,
Norman
2010/1/23 Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com>:
> On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin
> <ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Norman Maurer
>> <no...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>> Just go ahead...
>>
>> done
>>
>>> btw, you can rip off the avalon-socket-library in james trunk because
>>> we don't need it anymore without nntpserver..
>>
>> working on this now. want a separate commit for historic clarity.
>
> done
>
> i plan to start bashing the forked NNTP into shape now
>
> - robert
>
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Re: NNTP Product [WAS Re: Removing Cornerstone sockets in favor of
MINA]
Posted by Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com>.
On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin
<ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Norman Maurer
> <no...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> Just go ahead...
>
> done
>
>> btw, you can rip off the avalon-socket-library in james trunk because
>> we don't need it anymore without nntpserver..
>
> working on this now. want a separate commit for historic clarity.
done
i plan to start bashing the forked NNTP into shape now
- robert
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Re: NNTP Product [WAS Re: Removing Cornerstone sockets in favor of
MINA]
Posted by Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com>.
On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Norman Maurer
<no...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Just go ahead...
done
> btw, you can rip off the avalon-socket-library in james trunk because
> we don't need it anymore without nntpserver..
working on this now. want a separate commit for historic clarity.
- robert
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Re: NNTP Product [WAS Re: Removing Cornerstone sockets in favor of
MINA]
Posted by Norman Maurer <no...@googlemail.com>.
Just go ahead...
btw, you can rip off the avalon-socket-library in james trunk because
we don't need it anymore without nntpserver..
Bye,
Norman
2010/1/23 Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com>:
> On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 9:55 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin
> <ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Stefano Bagnara <ap...@bago.org> wrote:
>>> 2010/1/17 Norman Maurer <no...@googlemail.com>:
>>>> Ok, I have now every implementation in place except one for
>>>> nntpserver. To be hornest I would be +1 for just remove the whole
>>>> nntpserver stuff. IMHO, its just a left over from the "old days" and
>>>> not maintained anyway. I don't think anyone is using it anyway. So
>>>> what about just remove the whole nntpserver stuff . If we really find
>>>> some usecase we can "merge" it back later.
>>>
>>> +1 nntp has always been very basic and its storage was not compatible
>>> with pop3, so it is mainly some protocol code. It doesn't support most
>>> stuff one would expect from an nntp server, so it is ok to remove it
>>> and if anyone will ever need that he will help reintegrating the
>>> protocol back.
>>
>> i'm starting to factor out an NNTP product. if anyone wants me to
>> leave NNTP in trunk, shout very soon.
>
> to give norman space to continue with the mina work on trunk, i'm
> starting work on removal now but will commit no earlier than 11:00UT
>
> so jump in with objections now or forever cry into your coffee ;-)
>
> - robert
>
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Re: NNTP Product [WAS Re: Removing Cornerstone sockets in favor of
MINA]
Posted by Robert Burrell Donkin <ro...@gmail.com>.
On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 9:55 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin
<ro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Stefano Bagnara <ap...@bago.org> wrote:
>> 2010/1/17 Norman Maurer <no...@googlemail.com>:
>>> Ok, I have now every implementation in place except one for
>>> nntpserver. To be hornest I would be +1 for just remove the whole
>>> nntpserver stuff. IMHO, its just a left over from the "old days" and
>>> not maintained anyway. I don't think anyone is using it anyway. So
>>> what about just remove the whole nntpserver stuff . If we really find
>>> some usecase we can "merge" it back later.
>>
>> +1 nntp has always been very basic and its storage was not compatible
>> with pop3, so it is mainly some protocol code. It doesn't support most
>> stuff one would expect from an nntp server, so it is ok to remove it
>> and if anyone will ever need that he will help reintegrating the
>> protocol back.
>
> i'm starting to factor out an NNTP product. if anyone wants me to
> leave NNTP in trunk, shout very soon.
to give norman space to continue with the mina work on trunk, i'm
starting work on removal now but will commit no earlier than 11:00UT
so jump in with objections now or forever cry into your coffee ;-)
- robert
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