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Posted to apps-dev@avalon.apache.org by Berin Loritsch <bl...@citi-us.com> on 2002/12/04 16:54:07 UTC
[VOTE] RE: gump entry for containerkit
Include GUMP descriptor in Avalon-Sandbox. It is reasonable
to assume that the sandbox area will change more often than
the Alexandria folks can keep up with. The released stuff
should remain fairly static in its dependencies so if the
Alexandria folks want to keep up control of it let them.
> From: Stefan Bodewig [mailto:bodewig@apache.org]
>
> On 04 Dec 2002, Leo Simons <le...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Just can't figure out what file to change into what.
>
> I've added a new file avalon-sandbox.xml with a module for
> avalon-sandbox (those file vaguely correspond to CVS modules and as
> there hasn't been obe for avalon-sandbox, you need a new one).
>
> I moved the excalibur-containerkit <project> to the new file and added
> the new file to the project.
>
> See it in action with the next Gump build.
>
> Stefan
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Re: [VOTE] RE: gump entry for containerkit
Posted by Stefan Bodewig <bo...@apache.org>.
On Wed, 4 Dec 2002, Berin Loritsch <bl...@citi-us.com> wrote:
> Include GUMP descriptor in Avalon-Sandbox. It is reasonable
> to assume that the sandbox area will change more often than
> the Alexandria folks can keep up with.
Feel free to add
<http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/jakarta-alexandria/proposal/gump/project/avalon-sandbox.xml>
to avalon-sandbox and tell me where you've put it.
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Re: [VOTE] RE: gump entry for containerkit
Posted by Stefan Bodewig <bo...@apache.org>.
On Wed, 4 Dec 2002, Berin Loritsch <bl...@citi-us.com> wrote:
> Include GUMP descriptor in Avalon-Sandbox. It is reasonable
> to assume that the sandbox area will change more often than
> the Alexandria folks can keep up with.
Feel free to add
<http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/jakarta-alexandria/proposal/gump/project/avalon-sandbox.xml>
to avalon-sandbox and tell me where you've put it.
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Re: [VOTE] RE: gump entry for containerkit
Posted by Sam Ruby <ru...@apache.org>.
Berin Loritsch wrote:
>>From: Leo Simons [mailto:leosimons@apache.org]
>>
>>I'll throw the same link at you I got from Steve:
>>
>>http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=103789608600004&r=1&w=2
>>
>>essentially the descriptors were moved to avalon from
>>alexandria and we
>>did a lousy job maintaining them, so they were moved back. If you want
>>access to the descriptors all you have to do is ask :D
>
> There was no real education either. What does the thing look like?
> How to edit it? that sort of thing.
I'll let you in on a secret, if you promise not to tell. :-P
Go to any gump generated page and click on the bench icon thingie on the
top right corner.
Cool links to click on from there are the "Source", "Usage", and pretty
much any of the "Data Definitions" ones.
Just between us, of course.
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Re: [VOTE] RE: gump entry for containerkit
Posted by Sam Ruby <ru...@apache.org>.
Leo Simons wrote:
> I'll throw the same link at you I got from Steve:
>
> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=103789608600004&r=1&w=2
>
> essentially the descriptors were moved to avalon from alexandria and we
> did a lousy job maintaining them, so they were moved back. If you want
> access to the descriptors all you have to do is ask :D
+1
If descriptors exist in local cvses that are better maintained than the
ones in the alexandria's cvs, then they will simply be pointed to.
If existing committers want to access to the descriptors in alexandria's
cvs, all one needs to do is demonstrate an ability to execute a simple
build.xml which only depends on Ant, Xerces, and Xalan. I seriously
doubt that this is beyond the reach of most of the readers of this e-mail.
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Re: [VOTE] RE: gump entry for containerkit
Posted by Sam Ruby <ru...@apache.org>.
Leo Simons wrote:
> I'll throw the same link at you I got from Steve:
>
> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=103789608600004&r=1&w=2
>
> essentially the descriptors were moved to avalon from alexandria and we
> did a lousy job maintaining them, so they were moved back. If you want
> access to the descriptors all you have to do is ask :D
+1
If descriptors exist in local cvses that are better maintained than the
ones in the alexandria's cvs, then they will simply be pointed to.
If existing committers want to access to the descriptors in alexandria's
cvs, all one needs to do is demonstrate an ability to execute a simple
build.xml which only depends on Ant, Xerces, and Xalan. I seriously
doubt that this is beyond the reach of most of the readers of this e-mail.
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Re: [VOTE] RE: gump entry for containerkit
Posted by Stephen McConnell <mc...@apache.org>.
I think it makes much more sense to have the gump descriptor locally in
avalon-sandbox. All of the stuff I've been working on in excalibur was
actively maintained until it wass pulled of the excalibur site. Putting
it on avalon-sandbox makes it so much easier to maintain.
Cheers, Steve.
Leo Simons wrote:
>I'll throw the same link at you I got from Steve:
>
>http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=103789608600004&r=1&w=2
>
>essentially the descriptors were moved to avalon from alexandria and we
>did a lousy job maintaining them, so they were moved back. If you want
>access to the descriptors all you have to do is ask :D
>
>the only thing in sandbox referenced by gump atm is containerkit. The
>rest can change as often as it wants without gump noticing.
>
>cheers,
>
>- Leo
>
>On Wed, 2002-12-04 at 16:54, Berin Loritsch wrote:
>
>
>>Include GUMP descriptor in Avalon-Sandbox. It is reasonable
>>to assume that the sandbox area will change more often than
>>the Alexandria folks can keep up with. The released stuff
>>should remain fairly static in its dependencies so if the
>>Alexandria folks want to keep up control of it let them.
>>
>>
>
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Re: [VOTE] RE: gump entry for containerkit
Posted by Stephen McConnell <mc...@apache.org>.
I think it makes much more sense to have the gump descriptor locally in
avalon-sandbox. All of the stuff I've been working on in excalibur was
actively maintained until it wass pulled of the excalibur site. Putting
it on avalon-sandbox makes it so much easier to maintain.
Cheers, Steve.
Leo Simons wrote:
>I'll throw the same link at you I got from Steve:
>
>http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=103789608600004&r=1&w=2
>
>essentially the descriptors were moved to avalon from alexandria and we
>did a lousy job maintaining them, so they were moved back. If you want
>access to the descriptors all you have to do is ask :D
>
>the only thing in sandbox referenced by gump atm is containerkit. The
>rest can change as often as it wants without gump noticing.
>
>cheers,
>
>- Leo
>
>On Wed, 2002-12-04 at 16:54, Berin Loritsch wrote:
>
>
>>Include GUMP descriptor in Avalon-Sandbox. It is reasonable
>>to assume that the sandbox area will change more often than
>>the Alexandria folks can keep up with. The released stuff
>>should remain fairly static in its dependencies so if the
>>Alexandria folks want to keep up control of it let them.
>>
>>
>
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Re: [VOTE] RE: gump entry for containerkit
Posted by Sam Ruby <ru...@apache.org>.
Berin Loritsch wrote:
>>From: Leo Simons [mailto:leosimons@apache.org]
>>
>>I'll throw the same link at you I got from Steve:
>>
>>http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=103789608600004&r=1&w=2
>>
>>essentially the descriptors were moved to avalon from
>>alexandria and we
>>did a lousy job maintaining them, so they were moved back. If you want
>>access to the descriptors all you have to do is ask :D
>
> There was no real education either. What does the thing look like?
> How to edit it? that sort of thing.
I'll let you in on a secret, if you promise not to tell. :-P
Go to any gump generated page and click on the bench icon thingie on the
top right corner.
Cool links to click on from there are the "Source", "Usage", and pretty
much any of the "Data Definitions" ones.
Just between us, of course.
- Sam Ruby
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Re: [VOTE] RE: gump entry for containerkit
Posted by Sam Ruby <ru...@apache.org>.
Leo Simons wrote:
> I'll throw the same link at you I got from Steve:
>
> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=103789608600004&r=1&w=2
>
> essentially the descriptors were moved to avalon from alexandria and we
> did a lousy job maintaining them, so they were moved back. If you want
> access to the descriptors all you have to do is ask :D
+1
If descriptors exist in local cvses that are better maintained than the
ones in the alexandria's cvs, then they will simply be pointed to.
If existing committers want to access to the descriptors in alexandria's
cvs, all one needs to do is demonstrate an ability to execute a simple
build.xml which only depends on Ant, Xerces, and Xalan. I seriously
doubt that this is beyond the reach of most of the readers of this e-mail.
- Sam Ruby
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Re: [VOTE] RE: gump entry for containerkit
Posted by Sam Ruby <ru...@apache.org>.
Berin Loritsch wrote:
>>From: Leo Simons [mailto:leosimons@apache.org]
>>
>>I'll throw the same link at you I got from Steve:
>>
>>http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=103789608600004&r=1&w=2
>>
>>essentially the descriptors were moved to avalon from
>>alexandria and we
>>did a lousy job maintaining them, so they were moved back. If you want
>>access to the descriptors all you have to do is ask :D
>
> There was no real education either. What does the thing look like?
> How to edit it? that sort of thing.
I'll let you in on a secret, if you promise not to tell. :-P
Go to any gump generated page and click on the bench icon thingie on the
top right corner.
Cool links to click on from there are the "Source", "Usage", and pretty
much any of the "Data Definitions" ones.
Just between us, of course.
- Sam Ruby
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Re: [VOTE] RE: gump entry for containerkit
Posted by Stephen McConnell <mc...@apache.org>.
I think it makes much more sense to have the gump descriptor locally in
avalon-sandbox. All of the stuff I've been working on in excalibur was
actively maintained until it wass pulled of the excalibur site. Putting
it on avalon-sandbox makes it so much easier to maintain.
Cheers, Steve.
Leo Simons wrote:
>I'll throw the same link at you I got from Steve:
>
>http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=103789608600004&r=1&w=2
>
>essentially the descriptors were moved to avalon from alexandria and we
>did a lousy job maintaining them, so they were moved back. If you want
>access to the descriptors all you have to do is ask :D
>
>the only thing in sandbox referenced by gump atm is containerkit. The
>rest can change as often as it wants without gump noticing.
>
>cheers,
>
>- Leo
>
>On Wed, 2002-12-04 at 16:54, Berin Loritsch wrote:
>
>
>>Include GUMP descriptor in Avalon-Sandbox. It is reasonable
>>to assume that the sandbox area will change more often than
>>the Alexandria folks can keep up with. The released stuff
>>should remain fairly static in its dependencies so if the
>>Alexandria folks want to keep up control of it let them.
>>
>>
>
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RE: [VOTE] RE: gump entry for containerkit
Posted by Berin Loritsch <bl...@citi-us.com>.
> From: Leo Simons [mailto:leosimons@apache.org]
>
> I'll throw the same link at you I got from Steve:
>
> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=103789608600004&r=1&w=2
>
> essentially the descriptors were moved to avalon from
> alexandria and we
> did a lousy job maintaining them, so they were moved back. If you want
> access to the descriptors all you have to do is ask :D
There was no real education either. What does the thing look like?
How to edit it? that sort of thing.
> the only thing in sandbox referenced by gump atm is containerkit. The
> rest can change as often as it wants without gump noticing.
All our code needs to be continuously integrated. If a sanbox project
depends on outside code, we need to know about changes.
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RE: [VOTE] RE: gump entry for containerkit
Posted by Berin Loritsch <bl...@citi-us.com>.
> From: Leo Simons [mailto:leosimons@apache.org]
>
> I'll throw the same link at you I got from Steve:
>
> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=103789608600004&r=1&w=2
>
> essentially the descriptors were moved to avalon from
> alexandria and we
> did a lousy job maintaining them, so they were moved back. If you want
> access to the descriptors all you have to do is ask :D
There was no real education either. What does the thing look like?
How to edit it? that sort of thing.
> the only thing in sandbox referenced by gump atm is containerkit. The
> rest can change as often as it wants without gump noticing.
All our code needs to be continuously integrated. If a sanbox project
depends on outside code, we need to know about changes.
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RE: [VOTE] RE: gump entry for containerkit
Posted by Berin Loritsch <bl...@citi-us.com>.
> From: Leo Simons [mailto:leosimons@apache.org]
>
> I'll throw the same link at you I got from Steve:
>
> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=103789608600004&r=1&w=2
>
> essentially the descriptors were moved to avalon from
> alexandria and we
> did a lousy job maintaining them, so they were moved back. If you want
> access to the descriptors all you have to do is ask :D
There was no real education either. What does the thing look like?
How to edit it? that sort of thing.
> the only thing in sandbox referenced by gump atm is containerkit. The
> rest can change as often as it wants without gump noticing.
All our code needs to be continuously integrated. If a sanbox project
depends on outside code, we need to know about changes.
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Re: [VOTE] RE: gump entry for containerkit
Posted by Leo Simons <le...@apache.org>.
I'll throw the same link at you I got from Steve:
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=103789608600004&r=1&w=2
essentially the descriptors were moved to avalon from alexandria and we
did a lousy job maintaining them, so they were moved back. If you want
access to the descriptors all you have to do is ask :D
the only thing in sandbox referenced by gump atm is containerkit. The
rest can change as often as it wants without gump noticing.
cheers,
- Leo
On Wed, 2002-12-04 at 16:54, Berin Loritsch wrote:
> Include GUMP descriptor in Avalon-Sandbox. It is reasonable
> to assume that the sandbox area will change more often than
> the Alexandria folks can keep up with. The released stuff
> should remain fairly static in its dependencies so if the
> Alexandria folks want to keep up control of it let them.
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Re: [VOTE] RE: gump entry for containerkit
Posted by Stefan Bodewig <bo...@apache.org>.
On Wed, 4 Dec 2002, Berin Loritsch <bl...@citi-us.com> wrote:
> Include GUMP descriptor in Avalon-Sandbox. It is reasonable
> to assume that the sandbox area will change more often than
> the Alexandria folks can keep up with.
Feel free to add
<http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/jakarta-alexandria/proposal/gump/project/avalon-sandbox.xml>
to avalon-sandbox and tell me where you've put it.
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Re: [VOTE] RE: gump entry for containerkit
Posted by Leo Simons <le...@apache.org>.
I'll throw the same link at you I got from Steve:
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=103789608600004&r=1&w=2
essentially the descriptors were moved to avalon from alexandria and we
did a lousy job maintaining them, so they were moved back. If you want
access to the descriptors all you have to do is ask :D
the only thing in sandbox referenced by gump atm is containerkit. The
rest can change as often as it wants without gump noticing.
cheers,
- Leo
On Wed, 2002-12-04 at 16:54, Berin Loritsch wrote:
> Include GUMP descriptor in Avalon-Sandbox. It is reasonable
> to assume that the sandbox area will change more often than
> the Alexandria folks can keep up with. The released stuff
> should remain fairly static in its dependencies so if the
> Alexandria folks want to keep up control of it let them.
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Re: [VOTE] RE: gump entry for containerkit
Posted by Leo Simons <le...@apache.org>.
I'll throw the same link at you I got from Steve:
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=103789608600004&r=1&w=2
essentially the descriptors were moved to avalon from alexandria and we
did a lousy job maintaining them, so they were moved back. If you want
access to the descriptors all you have to do is ask :D
the only thing in sandbox referenced by gump atm is containerkit. The
rest can change as often as it wants without gump noticing.
cheers,
- Leo
On Wed, 2002-12-04 at 16:54, Berin Loritsch wrote:
> Include GUMP descriptor in Avalon-Sandbox. It is reasonable
> to assume that the sandbox area will change more often than
> the Alexandria folks can keep up with. The released stuff
> should remain fairly static in its dependencies so if the
> Alexandria folks want to keep up control of it let them.
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