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[VOTE] Remove MatcherFactories, SelectorFactories
All,
Matcher and selector factories are deprecated as of 2.0rc2. Please cast
your votes:
Shall we remove them from 2.0.3?
Shall we remove them from 2.1?
Vadim
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Re: [VOTE] Remove MatcherFactories, SelectorFactories
Posted by Nicola Ken Barozzi <ni...@apache.org>.
From: "Peter Royal" <pr...@apache.org>
> On Thursday 06 June 2002 02:48 pm, Vadim Gritsenko wrote:
> > Matcher and selector factories are deprecated as of 2.0rc2. Please cast
> > your votes:
> >
> > Shall we remove them from 2.0.3?
>
> -1, since that is still a point-release from the original 2.0
-1 same reason.
Every problem has a solution.
But every solution has it's problems ;-)
> > Shall we remove them from 2.1?
>
> +1, thar be lots of changes in 2.1!
+1
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RE: [VOTE] Remove MatcherFactories, SelectorFactories
Posted by Vadim Gritsenko <va...@verizon.net>.
> From: Christian Haul [mailto:haul@dvs1.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de]
>
> On 06.Jun.2002 -- 04:26 PM, Vadim Gritsenko wrote:
>
> > > BTW, when are we releasing?
> >
> > ASAP if we will have 2.0.4. Later if not - there are some issues to
> > address...
>
> C'mon, how many times have we agreed to come back to the "release
> often" maxime? Shouldn't we try to release (bi-) monthly bugfixes?
We should.
> > > > > > > Shall we remove them from 2.1?
>
> +1
Ok.
Vadim
> Chris.
>
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Re: [VOTE] Remove MatcherFactories, SelectorFactories
Posted by Christian Haul <ha...@dvs1.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de>.
On 06.Jun.2002 -- 04:26 PM, Vadim Gritsenko wrote:
> > > On Thursday 06 June 2002 03:19 pm, Vadim Gritsenko wrote:
> > > > > > your votes:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Shall we remove them from 2.0.3?
-0
> > BTW, when are we releasing?
>
> ASAP if we will have 2.0.4. Later if not - there are some issues to
> address...
C'mon, how many times have we agreed to come back to the "release
often" maxime? Shouldn't we try to release (bi-) monthly bugfixes?
> > > > > > Shall we remove them from 2.1?
+1
Chris.
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RE: [VOTE] Remove MatcherFactories, SelectorFactories
Posted by Vadim Gritsenko <va...@verizon.net>.
> From: Nicola Ken Barozzi [mailto:nicolaken@apache.org]
>
> From: "Peter Royal" <pr...@apache.org>
>
> > On Thursday 06 June 2002 03:19 pm, Vadim Gritsenko wrote:
> > > > > your votes:
> > > > >
> > > > > Shall we remove them from 2.0.3?
> > > >
> > > > -1, since that is still a point-release from the original 2.0
> > >
> > > IIRC, the deprecation -> removal cycle was defined on this list as
> > > "deprecate, wait 3-4-5-6 month, remove", but was not tied to the
version
> > > numbering.
> > >
> > > Am I wrong?
> >
> > No, you're right.
> >
> > My logic was thus:
> >
> > 2.0.2 -> 2.0.3
> > should be a relatively painless upgrade, mainly bugfixes, few new
> > features.
> >
> > 2.0.x -> 2.1
> > will require some effort to adapt to new changes.
> >
> > Why not lump in with the 2.1 changes and remove one less (potential)
> > hurdle
> > in a 2.0.x -> 2.0.3 upgrade.
> >
> > I guess I'm more -0. The change won't impact me, but why not wait
for 2.1
> > to impact those that will be.
>
> 2.0.3 means third bugfix release of 2.0.
Ahem... Scroll through 2.0 -> 2.0.1 changes... Or 2.0.1 -> 2.0.2... I
don't feel that this could be called *bug fix* release :)
> The more we touch it, the more it can gain the problems of 2.1 along
with
> the fixes.
>
> BTW, when are we releasing?
ASAP if we will have 2.0.4. Later if not - there are some issues to
address...
Vadim
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Re: [VOTE] Remove MatcherFactories, SelectorFactories
Posted by Nicola Ken Barozzi <ni...@apache.org>.
From: "Peter Royal" <pr...@apache.org>
> On Thursday 06 June 2002 03:19 pm, Vadim Gritsenko wrote:
> > > > your votes:
> > > >
> > > > Shall we remove them from 2.0.3?
> > >
> > > -1, since that is still a point-release from the original 2.0
> >
> > IIRC, the deprecation -> removal cycle was defined on this list as
> > "deprecate, wait 3-4-5-6 month, remove", but was not tied to the version
> > numbering.
> >
> > Am I wrong?
>
> No, you're right.
>
> My logic was thus:
>
> 2.0.2 -> 2.0.3
> should be a relatively painless upgrade, mainly bugfixes, few new
features.
>
> 2.0.x -> 2.1
> will require some effort to adapt to new changes.
>
> Why not lump in with the 2.1 changes and remove one less (potential)
hurdle
> in a 2.0.x -> 2.0.3 upgrade.
>
> I guess I'm more -0. The change won't impact me, but why not wait for 2.1
to
> impact those that will be.
2.0.3 means third bugfix release of 2.0.
The more we touch it, the more it can gain the problems of 2.1 along with
the fixes.
BTW, when are we releasing?
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Re: [VOTE] Remove MatcherFactories, SelectorFactories
Posted by Peter Royal <pr...@apache.org>.
On Thursday 06 June 2002 03:19 pm, Vadim Gritsenko wrote:
> > > your votes:
> > >
> > > Shall we remove them from 2.0.3?
> >
> > -1, since that is still a point-release from the original 2.0
>
> IIRC, the deprecation -> removal cycle was defined on this list as
> "deprecate, wait 3-4-5-6 month, remove", but was not tied to the version
> numbering.
>
> Am I wrong?
No, you're right.
My logic was thus:
2.0.2 -> 2.0.3
should be a relatively painless upgrade, mainly bugfixes, few new features.
2.0.x -> 2.1
will require some effort to adapt to new changes.
Why not lump in with the 2.1 changes and remove one less (potential) hurdle
in a 2.0.x -> 2.0.3 upgrade.
I guess I'm more -0. The change won't impact me, but why not wait for 2.1 to
impact those that will be.
-pete
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RE: [VOTE] Remove MatcherFactories, SelectorFactories
Posted by Vadim Gritsenko <va...@verizon.net>.
> From: Peter Royal [mailto:proyal@apache.org]
>
> On Thursday 06 June 2002 02:48 pm, Vadim Gritsenko wrote:
> > Matcher and selector factories are deprecated as of 2.0rc2. Please
cast
> > your votes:
> >
> > Shall we remove them from 2.0.3?
>
> -1, since that is still a point-release from the original 2.0
IIRC, the deprecation -> removal cycle was defined on this list as
"deprecate, wait 3-4-5-6 month, remove", but was not tied to the version
numbering.
Am I wrong?
Vadim
>
> > Shall we remove them from 2.1?
>
> +1, thar be lots of changes in 2.1!
> -pete
>
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Re: [VOTE] Remove MatcherFactories, SelectorFactories
Posted by Peter Royal <pr...@apache.org>.
On Thursday 06 June 2002 02:48 pm, Vadim Gritsenko wrote:
> Matcher and selector factories are deprecated as of 2.0rc2. Please cast
> your votes:
>
> Shall we remove them from 2.0.3?
-1, since that is still a point-release from the original 2.0
> Shall we remove them from 2.1?
+1, thar be lots of changes in 2.1!
-pete
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Re: [VOTE] Remove MatcherFactories, SelectorFactories
Posted by Stefano Mazzocchi <st...@apache.org>.
Vadim Gritsenko wrote:
>
> All,
>
> Matcher and selector factories are deprecated as of 2.0rc2. Please cast
> your votes:
>
> Shall we remove them from 2.0.3?
>
> Shall we remove them from 2.1?
Let's remove them for 2.1
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able to give birth to a dancing star.
<st...@apache.org> Friedrich Nietzsche
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RE: [VOTE] Remove MatcherFactories, SelectorFactories
Posted by Stephan Michels <st...@vern.chem.tu-berlin.de>.
On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Vadim Gritsenko [mailto:vadim.gritsenko@verizon.net]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 8:49 PM
> > To: cocoon-dev@xml.apache.org
> > Subject: [VOTE] Remove MatcherFactories, SelectorFactories
> >
> >
> > All,
> >
> > Matcher and selector factories are deprecated as of 2.0rc2. Please cast
> > your votes:
> >
> > Shall we remove them from 2.0.3?
>
> -1
-1
> Let's make as less changes as possible
>
> >
> > Shall we remove them from 2.1?
> >
> +1
+1
Deprecated classes should be as fast as possible be removed, because
these classes confuses the user, including me.
Stephan Michels.
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RE: [VOTE] Remove MatcherFactories, SelectorFactories
Posted by Carsten Ziegeler <cz...@s-und-n.de>.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vadim Gritsenko [mailto:vadim.gritsenko@verizon.net]
> Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 8:49 PM
> To: cocoon-dev@xml.apache.org
> Subject: [VOTE] Remove MatcherFactories, SelectorFactories
>
>
> All,
>
> Matcher and selector factories are deprecated as of 2.0rc2. Please cast
> your votes:
>
> Shall we remove them from 2.0.3?
-1
Let's make as less changes as possible
>
> Shall we remove them from 2.1?
>
+1
Carsten
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