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[shale] status
What's going on with Shale?
I tried "ant dist" and I got a bunch of compile errors. This is on a
clean slate.
Is anyone else seeing this?
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Re: [shale] status
Posted by "Frank W. Zammetti" <fz...@omnytex.com>.
Craig McClanahan wrote:
> Thanks for the pointer ... I wasn't aware of that. That being said, it's not
> clear that a lot of effort should be devoted to the Shale Ant scripts, since
> Wendy has volunteered to Mavenize them (as long as she can deal with the
> either-JSF-RI-or-MyFaces requirements -- boy can she be a glutton for
> punishment sometimes :-).
Yep, I knew that, both that she was Mavenizing it *and* that she can be
a glutton for punishment :)
I was hoping you'd continue the Ant scripts... as I said to Wendy a few
days ago, it seems like many people are switching to Maven, and I liked
being able to point to you and say "hey, Craig isn't using it, I can't
be completely wrong in sticking with Ant!" :)
At the end of the day though, it's just like Struts... Whatever my
feelings about Maven, if the build works and I don't have to maintain
the script, not really a big deal either way.
> Even if that weren't the case, though, I'm not positive that, in an Ant-only
> world, defining external dependencies separately (rather than explicitly in
> <get> targets as Shale does now) is necessarily a better thing -- but that
> might also be my long time antipathy to Maven showing through :-).
I know the feeling, I haven't been overly excited about Maven
personally. This particular feature though is one that I didn't have an
immediate aversion to, and I was happy to find this analogy for Ant...
especially for JWP as an example, it cut out over 1MB of download size
from the source distro; I definitely appreciate that.
> Craig
Frank
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Re: [shale] status
Posted by Craig McClanahan <cr...@gmail.com>.
On 8/30/05, Frank W. Zammetti <fz...@omnytex.com> wrote:
>
> Craig,
>
> I don't know if it's something you were aware of or not, or if it would
> help at all, but I've recently started using this:
>
> http://www.httpunit.org/doc/dependencies.html
>
> ...for dealing with dependencies. The build script for Java Web Parts
> for example uses it. In short, it's an add-on task for Ant to mimic the
> Maven dependency download capabilities. Ironically, by default it uses
> the Maven repository at iBiblio :) But you can use alternate (and
> multiple I believe) repositories too.
>
> Thought it might be helpful to deal with these new dependencies in the
> Shale build.
Thanks for the pointer ... I wasn't aware of that. That being said, it's not
clear that a lot of effort should be devoted to the Shale Ant scripts, since
Wendy has volunteered to Mavenize them (as long as she can deal with the
either-JSF-RI-or-MyFaces requirements -- boy can she be a glutton for
punishment sometimes :-).
Even if that weren't the case, though, I'm not positive that, in an Ant-only
world, defining external dependencies separately (rather than explicitly in
<get> targets as Shale does now) is necessarily a better thing -- but that
might also be my long time antipathy to Maven showing through :-).
Frank
Craig
James Mitchell wrote:
> > Doh! No, but I did notice that I had to download PR5 of spring webflow.
> >
> > Ok, sorry for the noise.
> >
> > --
> > James Mitchell
> > Software Engineer / Open Source Evangelist
> > Consulting / Mentoring / Freelance
> > EdgeTech, Inc.
> > http://www.edgetechservices.net/
> > 678.910.8017
> > AIM: jmitchtx
> > Yahoo: jmitchtx
> > MSN: jmitchell@apache.org
> > Skype: callto://jmitchtx
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Aug 30, 2005, at 11:07 PM, Craig McClanahan wrote:
> >
> >> On 8/30/05, James Mitchell <jm...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> What's going on with Shale?
> >>>
> >>> I tried "ant dist" and I got a bunch of compile errors. This is on a
> >>> clean slate.
> >>>
> >>> Is anyone else seeing this?
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> No ... but have you read the "Building Shale" notes in the
> >> release-notes-1.0.0.html file? There have been some recent changes that
> >> you'll need to adapt to ... in particular some new dependencies that
> >> need to
> >> be downloaded.
> >>
> >> Craig
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >>> James Mitchell
> >>> Software Engineer / Open Source Evangelist
> >>> Consulting / Mentoring / Freelance
> >>> EdgeTech, Inc.
> >>> http://www.edgetechservices.net/
> >>> 678.910.8017
> >>> AIM: jmitchtx
> >>> Yahoo: jmitchtx
> >>> MSN: jmitchell@apache.org
> >>> Skype: callto://jmitchtx
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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Re: [shale] status
Posted by "Frank W. Zammetti" <fz...@omnytex.com>.
Craig,
I don't know if it's something you were aware of or not, or if it would
help at all, but I've recently started using this:
http://www.httpunit.org/doc/dependencies.html
...for dealing with dependencies. The build script for Java Web Parts
for example uses it. In short, it's an add-on task for Ant to mimic the
Maven dependency download capabilities. Ironically, by default it uses
the Maven repository at iBiblio :) But you can use alternate (and
multiple I believe) repositories too.
Thought it might be helpful to deal with these new dependencies in the
Shale build.
Frank
James Mitchell wrote:
> Doh! No, but I did notice that I had to download PR5 of spring webflow.
>
> Ok, sorry for the noise.
>
> --
> James Mitchell
> Software Engineer / Open Source Evangelist
> Consulting / Mentoring / Freelance
> EdgeTech, Inc.
> http://www.edgetechservices.net/
> 678.910.8017
> AIM: jmitchtx
> Yahoo: jmitchtx
> MSN: jmitchell@apache.org
> Skype: callto://jmitchtx
>
>
>
>
> On Aug 30, 2005, at 11:07 PM, Craig McClanahan wrote:
>
>> On 8/30/05, James Mitchell <jm...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> What's going on with Shale?
>>>
>>> I tried "ant dist" and I got a bunch of compile errors. This is on a
>>> clean slate.
>>>
>>> Is anyone else seeing this?
>>>
>>
>>
>> No ... but have you read the "Building Shale" notes in the
>> release-notes-1.0.0.html file? There have been some recent changes that
>> you'll need to adapt to ... in particular some new dependencies that
>> need to
>> be downloaded.
>>
>> Craig
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>> James Mitchell
>>> Software Engineer / Open Source Evangelist
>>> Consulting / Mentoring / Freelance
>>> EdgeTech, Inc.
>>> http://www.edgetechservices.net/
>>> 678.910.8017
>>> AIM: jmitchtx
>>> Yahoo: jmitchtx
>>> MSN: jmitchell@apache.org
>>> Skype: callto://jmitchtx
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
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Re: [shale] status
Posted by James Mitchell <ja...@mac.com>.
Doh! No, but I did notice that I had to download PR5 of spring webflow.
Ok, sorry for the noise.
--
James Mitchell
Software Engineer / Open Source Evangelist
Consulting / Mentoring / Freelance
EdgeTech, Inc.
http://www.edgetechservices.net/
678.910.8017
AIM: jmitchtx
Yahoo: jmitchtx
MSN: jmitchell@apache.org
Skype: callto://jmitchtx
On Aug 30, 2005, at 11:07 PM, Craig McClanahan wrote:
> On 8/30/05, James Mitchell <jm...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>>
>> What's going on with Shale?
>>
>> I tried "ant dist" and I got a bunch of compile errors. This is on a
>> clean slate.
>>
>> Is anyone else seeing this?
>>
>
>
> No ... but have you read the "Building Shale" notes in the
> release-notes-1.0.0.html file? There have been some recent changes
> that
> you'll need to adapt to ... in particular some new dependencies
> that need to
> be downloaded.
>
> Craig
>
>
> --
>
>> James Mitchell
>> Software Engineer / Open Source Evangelist
>> Consulting / Mentoring / Freelance
>> EdgeTech, Inc.
>> http://www.edgetechservices.net/
>> 678.910.8017
>> AIM: jmitchtx
>> Yahoo: jmitchtx
>> MSN: jmitchell@apache.org
>> Skype: callto://jmitchtx
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [shale] status
Posted by Craig McClanahan <cr...@gmail.com>.
On 8/30/05, James Mitchell <jm...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> What's going on with Shale?
>
> I tried "ant dist" and I got a bunch of compile errors. This is on a
> clean slate.
>
> Is anyone else seeing this?
No ... but have you read the "Building Shale" notes in the
release-notes-1.0.0.html file? There have been some recent changes that
you'll need to adapt to ... in particular some new dependencies that need to
be downloaded.
Craig
--
> James Mitchell
> Software Engineer / Open Source Evangelist
> Consulting / Mentoring / Freelance
> EdgeTech, Inc.
> http://www.edgetechservices.net/
> 678.910.8017
> AIM: jmitchtx
> Yahoo: jmitchtx
> MSN: jmitchell@apache.org
> Skype: callto://jmitchtx
>
>
>
>
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