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Posted to user@juddi.apache.org by Dave Thau <le...@learningsite.com> on 2003/06/23 16:41:19 UTC
[juddi-Users] Re: defining taxonomies
Thanks for the quick reply!
I like a client I'm writing to use the JAXR findConcepts() and
getDescendantConcepts() methods to navigate the taxonomy in the registry.
The basic story is I'm creating a registry for species information. I'd
like people to register their data providers as containing things like
mammals, or if they're more specific, squirrels. Say someone registers
their data provider as containing squirrels. A web service looking for
mammals should be told about the squirrel site (but someone looking for
squirrels shouldn't know about all the mammal sites).
The taxonomy doesn't need to be well known (though that would be nice),
but the clients should be able to grab the taxonomy from the registry so
that they can automatically reflect the frequent changes to the taxonomy.
Can I create the whole taxonomy, parent/child relations and all, using
save_tModel?
Dave
>i'm not absolutely certain, but wouldn't this just be a 'save_tModel'
> message? do you want this taxonomy to be 'well known' or this just
> something for your registry?
>
> cheers,
> andy
On Mon, 23 Jun 2003, Dave Thau wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> Sorry if this is a silly question, I'm a bit new to the UDDI world. I'm
> having a hard time figuring out how to publish a new taxonomy in jUDDI.
> I added one to Sun's JWSDP registry by messing around with their
> jaxr-ri.jar file. Is there anything similar in jUDDI?
>
> I saw the posts earlier this month about adding the UDDI Type Taxonomy
> tModel to the database, but I don't think that helps publish the
> contents of the taxonomy, right?
>
> Dave Thau
>
>
Re: [juddi-Users] Re: defining taxonomies
Posted by Andy Cutright <ac...@borland.com>.
hi,
i'm downloading the JWSDP currently so i can look at the UDDI messages
these calls are generating. if you don't mind can you tell me exactly
what you added to the file? are you running the tomcat that came with
the JWSDP? have you used the registry implementation that came with
JWSDP in addition to juddi? or are you using the public registry servers
at IBM, etc?
cheers,
andy
Dave Thau wrote:
>Hi Daniel,
>
>With Sun's JWSDP, I've been using the JAXR ClassificationScheme
>getDescendantConcepts() and the Concept getParentConcept() methods
>to navigate the taxonomy and it's working pretty well.
>
>I'm a bit foggy on what jwsdp is actually doing. These methods probably
>ARE communicating out of band because the file I have to tweak to add my
>taxonomy (jaxr-ri.jar) sits in their JAXR directory, and is called jaxr-ri
>after all.
>
>So it sounds like I need to publish the tModel of the classification in
>juddi and then use the JAXR stuff for the taxonomy work.
>
>Now... if I can just figure out how to get around that darned juddi/jwsdp
>problem with castor....
>
>Dave
>
>p.s. by tweaking the jax-ri.jar file, I mean I unpacked it, added my
>taxonomy information, and then repacked it. works like a charm!
>
>
>
RE: [juddi-Users] Re: defining taxonomies
Posted by Dave Thau <le...@learningsite.com>.
Hi Daniel,
With Sun's JWSDP, I've been using the JAXR ClassificationScheme
getDescendantConcepts() and the Concept getParentConcept() methods
to navigate the taxonomy and it's working pretty well.
I'm a bit foggy on what jwsdp is actually doing. These methods probably
ARE communicating out of band because the file I have to tweak to add my
taxonomy (jaxr-ri.jar) sits in their JAXR directory, and is called jaxr-ri
after all.
So it sounds like I need to publish the tModel of the classification in
juddi and then use the JAXR stuff for the taxonomy work.
Now... if I can just figure out how to get around that darned juddi/jwsdp
problem with castor....
Dave
p.s. by tweaking the jax-ri.jar file, I mean I unpacked it, added my
taxonomy information, and then repacked it. works like a charm!
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003, Daniel Feygin wrote:
> Dave,
>
> You cannot use JAXR to navigate a taxonomy published to a UDDI registry as a
> categorization tModel, because currently there is no standard taxonomy
> schema or API. Taxonomy structure and values have to be communicated out of
> band to any information system that needs to interpret them.
>
> Daniel
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: juddi-users-admin@lists.sourceforge.net
> > [mailto:juddi-users-admin@lists.sourceforge.net] On Behalf Of
> > Dave Thau
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 12:41 AM
> > To: juddi-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> > Subject: [juddi-Users] Re: defining taxonomies
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks for the quick reply!
> >
> > I like a client I'm writing to use the JAXR findConcepts() and
> > getDescendantConcepts() methods to navigate the taxonomy in
> > the registry.
> >
> > The basic story is I'm creating a registry for species
> > information. I'd like people to register their data
> > providers as containing things like mammals, or if they're
> > more specific, squirrels. Say someone registers their data
> > provider as containing squirrels. A web service looking for
> > mammals should be told about the squirrel site (but someone
> > looking for squirrels shouldn't know about all the mammal sites).
> >
> > The taxonomy doesn't need to be well known (though that would
> > be nice), but the clients should be able to grab the taxonomy
> > from the registry so that they can automatically reflect the
> > frequent changes to the taxonomy.
> >
> > Can I create the whole taxonomy, parent/child relations and
> > all, using save_tModel?
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > >i'm not absolutely certain, but wouldn't this just be a 'save_tModel'
> > > message? do you want this taxonomy to be 'well known' or this just
> > > something for your registry?
> > >
> > > cheers,
> > > andy
> >
> > On Mon, 23 Jun 2003, Dave Thau wrote:
> >
> > > Hello everyone,
> > >
> > > Sorry if this is a silly question, I'm a bit new to the
> > UDDI world.
> > > I'm having a hard time figuring out how to publish a new
> > taxonomy in jUDDI.
> > > I added one to Sun's JWSDP registry by messing around with their
> > > jaxr-ri.jar file. Is there anything similar in jUDDI?
> > >
> > > I saw the posts earlier this month about adding the UDDI
> > Type Taxonomy
> > > tModel to the database, but I don't think that helps publish the
> > > contents of the taxonomy, right?
> > >
> > > Dave Thau
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
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RE: [juddi-Users] Re: defining taxonomies
Posted by Daniel Feygin <fe...@unitspace.com>.
Dave,
You cannot use JAXR to navigate a taxonomy published to a UDDI registry as a
categorization tModel, because currently there is no standard taxonomy
schema or API. Taxonomy structure and values have to be communicated out of
band to any information system that needs to interpret them.
Daniel
> -----Original Message-----
> From: juddi-users-admin@lists.sourceforge.net
> [mailto:juddi-users-admin@lists.sourceforge.net] On Behalf Of
> Dave Thau
> Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 12:41 AM
> To: juddi-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: [juddi-Users] Re: defining taxonomies
>
>
>
> Thanks for the quick reply!
>
> I like a client I'm writing to use the JAXR findConcepts() and
> getDescendantConcepts() methods to navigate the taxonomy in
> the registry.
>
> The basic story is I'm creating a registry for species
> information. I'd like people to register their data
> providers as containing things like mammals, or if they're
> more specific, squirrels. Say someone registers their data
> provider as containing squirrels. A web service looking for
> mammals should be told about the squirrel site (but someone
> looking for squirrels shouldn't know about all the mammal sites).
>
> The taxonomy doesn't need to be well known (though that would
> be nice), but the clients should be able to grab the taxonomy
> from the registry so that they can automatically reflect the
> frequent changes to the taxonomy.
>
> Can I create the whole taxonomy, parent/child relations and
> all, using save_tModel?
>
> Dave
>
> >i'm not absolutely certain, but wouldn't this just be a 'save_tModel'
> > message? do you want this taxonomy to be 'well known' or this just
> > something for your registry?
> >
> > cheers,
> > andy
>
> On Mon, 23 Jun 2003, Dave Thau wrote:
>
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > Sorry if this is a silly question, I'm a bit new to the
> UDDI world.
> > I'm having a hard time figuring out how to publish a new
> taxonomy in jUDDI.
> > I added one to Sun's JWSDP registry by messing around with their
> > jaxr-ri.jar file. Is there anything similar in jUDDI?
> >
> > I saw the posts earlier this month about adding the UDDI
> Type Taxonomy
> > tModel to the database, but I don't think that helps publish the
> > contents of the taxonomy, right?
> >
> > Dave Thau
> >
> >
>
>
>
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