Re: [PROPOSAL] close poi-users

[Avik Sengupta <av...@apache.org>]

I do agree that poi users are usually developers, so a separate user and dev
lists for discussion does not make sense, so closing poi-user and moving all
discussion to poi-dev would be a good idea. 

I however think  that there probably should be a separate list for the default
bugzilla and cvs mails. 

While i personally am and would continue to be subscribed to all POI lists, i
have found from experience of many of the dev lists here at apache when you just
want to follow along with the progress of development, a high volume of
automated mails distract from that. A case in point, i have been a lurker on the
ant dev lists for about three years (ie, since its inception), but decided to
unsubscribe recently (even after trying gmane) since the barrage of bugzilla
emails made is impossible for me to keep track of any development conversation. 

I can appreciate why one would want to have bugzilla/cvs emails mailed to a
single list, but i am not too sure if its risk free. 

only my 0.02
-
Avik


Quoting Danny Mui <da...@muibros.com>:

> Sometimes the bugzilla reports have 5+ entries that can bury messages on 
> the list.  It may introduce excess "noise" to users but I see your 
> point.  POI users are diferent, they're developers.  They should read 
> that stuff in the event they have insight on issues/bugs and pitch in.
> 
> Ok sold, switched my mail reader to sort - threaded.  Go mozilla!
> 
> danny
> 
> Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
> 
> > Cool, as far as automated messages...
> >
> > AFAIK we only have
> > 1. Gump reports
> > 2. Commit messages
> > 3. Bug reports
> >
> > I read all three of those when they appear on the list...
> > -Andy
> >
> 
> 
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Re: Swap to JIRA? (Was: Re: [PROPOSAL] close poi-users)

["Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org>]

>
> I wouldn't mind bugzilla so much if it just had a reasonable subject 
> line.  The do not reply with a bug number really don't give you a lot 
> to go on.  Any way we can swap to Jira?


A. Is it opensource
B. Worth the effort?  (cost/benefit)
C. Are you volunteering to:
     1> install it
     2> configure it
     3> maintain it
?

if ( varA && varB && varC.get(1) && varC.get(2) && varC.get(3)) {
 answer(YES);
} else {
 answer(NO);
}

-Andy

>
> -- Glen
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Swap to JIRA? (Was: Re: [PROPOSAL] close poi-users)

[Glen Stampoultzis <gs...@iinet.net.au>]

At 01:52 PM 25/03/2003, you wrote:
>I do agree that poi users are usually developers, so a separate user and dev
>lists for discussion does not make sense, so closing poi-user and moving all
>discussion to poi-dev would be a good idea.
>
>I however think  that there probably should be a separate list for the default
>bugzilla and cvs mails.
>
>While i personally am and would continue to be subscribed to all POI lists, i
>have found from experience of many of the dev lists here at apache when 
>you just
>want to follow along with the progress of development, a high volume of
>automated mails distract from that. A case in point, i have been a lurker 
>on the
>ant dev lists for about three years (ie, since its inception), but decided to
>unsubscribe recently (even after trying gmane) since the barrage of bugzilla
>emails made is impossible for me to keep track of any development 
>conversation.
>
>I can appreciate why one would want to have bugzilla/cvs emails mailed to a
>single list, but i am not too sure if its risk free.

I wouldn't mind bugzilla so much if it just had a reasonable subject 
line.  The do not reply with a bug number really don't give you a lot to go 
on.  Any way we can swap to Jira?

-- Glen