Re: Moving to Maven?

[Steven J Schroeder <sj...@apache.org>]

+1 for Gradle. We already have it and it already works. In addition, it’s
Groovy DSL is often more concise than Maven. Also it’s daemon is a nice
feature that can reduce build time quite nicely during development.

I will concede, though, that Maven has more support and a bigger following.

—
Steven Schroeder

On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 09:59 Oleg Tikhonov <ol...@apache.org> wrote:

> I also do not have a vote, however +1 for gradle. Why go back?
>
> On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 5:26 PM Pierre Smits <pi...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> > +1 for moving away from Gradle.
> >
> > Having experienced it first-hand for a number of years in the Apache
> OFBiz
> > project (there the powers that be decided to migrate from Apache Ant to
> > Gradle), I was confronted with undesirable side effects in production
> > environments that required quite some additional considerations and
> effort
> > to mitigate.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Pierre Smits
> >
> > *Apache Trafodion <https://trafodion.apache.org>, Vice President*
> > *Apache Directory <https://directory.apache.org>, PMC Member*
> > Apache Incubator <https://incubator.apache.org>, committer
> > *Apache OFBiz <https://ofbiz.apache.org>, contributor (without
> privileges)
> > since 2008*
> > Apache Steve <https://steve.apache.org>, committer
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 5:17 PM Kenneth Knowles <ke...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > -0
> > >
> > > I haven't started coding on Tuweni, so I don't deserve a vote. But Beam
> > > moved from Maven to Gradle and it was a huge win. I think many of the
> > > reasons apply here:
> > >
> > >  - Maven doesn't do dependency-driven builds at the task level
> > (--also-make
> > > is not this; it is at the module level)
> > >  - Maven doesn't skip tasks that don't need rerunning
> > >  - You can't write custom tasks easily
> > >
> > > There are workarounds, generally a `mvn install` up front followed by
> > > repeated `mvn --pl path/to/subproject task@id`. It isn't that great.
> > Maven
> > > is still just fine for individual modules, but for a multi-module
> > project I
> > > wouldn't choose it. Since you have a working multi-module gradle
> build, I
> > > wouldn't change.
> > >
> > > Kenn
> > >
> > > On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 7:34 AM Michael Wall <mj...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I am +0.  I know maven much better, but gradle has some nice features
> > > like
> > > > the daemon and the application plugin.  Is there something specific
> you
> > > are
> > > > stuck on?  Would it be worth evaluating making gradle better before
> > > > switching?  Happy to help either way.
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 10:21 AM larry mccay <lm...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > They both have a sufficient level of black magic to make debugging
> > hard
> > > > but
> > > > > I am more familiar with the pain associated with maven so here is
> my
> > > +1.
> > > > > :)
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 6:11 AM Vinayakumar B <
> > vinayakumarb@apache.org
> > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Haven't used gradle, cant say anything particular about that..
> But
> > > > maven
> > > > > > will be easy to work with.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So +1 for moving to maven builds.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Vinay
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Fri, 26 Apr 2019, 1:28 pm Antoine Toulme, <
> antoine@toulme.name>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hey folks,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I am wondering if it might be worth moving to Maven. I’m saying
> > > this
> > > > > > after
> > > > > > > spending the best part of 2 hours fixing the gradle build yet
> > > again.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Maven has a few advantages I wouldn’t mind:
> > > > > > > -Better metadata
> > > > > > > -Better support in Java space
> > > > > > > -Gives us the ability to do OSGi artifacts too pretty easily
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > There is nothing special in our build at this time.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Anyone particularly interested to keep the Gradle build for any
> > > > reason?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Antoine
> > > > > > >
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