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Posted to dev@bigtop.apache.org by Jason Wen <zh...@workday.com.INVALID> on 2021/06/09 02:19:06 UTC
Re: [External Sender] Re: The Future of Ambari
It is a good move.
However I am wondering if ambari community dead. I subscribed the user and developer mail list but don't see any discussion. Also when looking at https://github.com/apache/ambari, there is no any activity on it in recent 12 months.
Thanks,
Jason
On 4/20/21, 8:45 PM, "Roman Shaposhnik" <ro...@shaposhnik.org> wrote:
A few years in the making indeed!
Thanks,
Roman.
On Sun, Apr 18, 2021 at 9:10 PM Evans Ye <ev...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Great news. I think it's a good move to have deeper integration with
> ambari, and making Bigtop the 1st class offering out of box in Ambari.
>
> Ganesh Raju <ga...@linaro.org> 於 2021年4月19日 週一 上午10:13寫道：
>
> > Just forwarding email from ambari mailing list.
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> > From: Szabolcs Beki <sz...@apache.org>
> > Date: Sun, Apr 18, 2021 at 11:20 AM
> > Subject: Re: The Future of Ambari
> > To: <us...@ambari.apache.org>
> >
> >
> > Hi Raed,
> >
> > Yes, indeed. HDP and CDH are merging into CDP (Cloudera Data Platform).
> > While most of the HDP stack is carried over, Ambari is being replaced by
> > Cloudera Manager. Additionally all the HDP (and CDP) distributions are
> > behind paywall.
> >
> > As most of the users were starting with HDP, they are often considered to
> > be coupled, however Ambari is, at its core, a generic cluster
> > management tool where you can create your own stack definitions
> > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__cwiki.apache.org_confluence_display_AMBARI_Stacks-2Band-2BServices&d=DwIFaQ&c=DS6PUFBBr_KiLo7Sjt3ljp5jaW5k2i9ijVXllEdOozc&r=UflFQf1BWcrVtfjfN1LUqWWh-UBP5XtRGMdcDC-0P7o&m=k0xW0aH3xO6xFsvtAc-5w2_2fftTVhevbKHwp5ggCkQ&s=Wh4_5sUMQbqE6wA_pZsVEwEDY6507VcE3_qCS_bYivA&e= >.
> > Bigtop <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__bigtop.apache.org_&d=DwIFaQ&c=DS6PUFBBr_KiLo7Sjt3ljp5jaW5k2i9ijVXllEdOozc&r=UflFQf1BWcrVtfjfN1LUqWWh-UBP5XtRGMdcDC-0P7o&m=k0xW0aH3xO6xFsvtAc-5w2_2fftTVhevbKHwp5ggCkQ&s=nJWQbiVIZpLIFjh2FLXjCLEzDLeZwAUylFc-mom5Lwg&e= > is also using Ambari, although an
> > older
> > version.
> >
> > The approach we are studying is the possibility of Ambari interoperating
> > with the latest Bigtop version
> > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__cwiki.apache.org_confluence_display_BIGTOP_Bigtop-2B1.5.0-2BRelease&d=DwIFaQ&c=DS6PUFBBr_KiLo7Sjt3ljp5jaW5k2i9ijVXllEdOozc&r=UflFQf1BWcrVtfjfN1LUqWWh-UBP5XtRGMdcDC-0P7o&m=k0xW0aH3xO6xFsvtAc-5w2_2fftTVhevbKHwp5ggCkQ&s=wefwDQb9WloDzsIgoPMkon20gh49SnIkWBGFJnafdM8&e= >
> > (as of now Ambari 2.6.1 is used instead of 2.7.5).
> >
> > Szabi
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 18, 2021 at 1:28 PM AL HAZME, RAED <AL...@ngha.med.sa>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > With the merge of Hortonworks and Cloudera, and the obvious end of the
> > > road for HDP. Is there any future for Ambari? Do we use it to manage our
> > > newly acquired big data cluster, or shall we look somewhere else? Is
> > there
> > > another open source solution that could be considered as a replacement
> > for
> > > Ambari?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > *Best regards,*
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > *Raed*
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
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> > > purchase advice or legal commitment is only valid once backed by the
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> > > hardcopy by the authorized person from NGHA.
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
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> >
Re: [External Sender] Re: The Future of Ambari
Posted by Jason Wen <zh...@workday.com.INVALID>.
Hi Martin,
Thanks for sharing the info. I see latest commit is on Apr 28. Not that bad.
Do you know if there is a roadmap for Ambari? What's next after the latest 2.7.5 release? I think the biggest concern of current/potential Ambari user is whether this project will be kept active and moving forward in the future.
Thanks,
Jason
On 6/9/21, 4:47 AM, "Martin Tzvetanov Grigorov" <mg...@apache.org> wrote:
Hi,
On 2021/06/09 02:19:06, Jason Wen <zh...@workday.com.INVALID> wrote:
> It is a good move.
> However I am wondering if ambari community dead. I subscribed the user and developer mail list but don't see any discussion. Also when looking at https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_apache_ambari&d=DwIBaQ&c=DS6PUFBBr_KiLo7Sjt3ljp5jaW5k2i9ijVXllEdOozc&r=UflFQf1BWcrVtfjfN1LUqWWh-UBP5XtRGMdcDC-0P7o&m=6uUfpEZYpQlYJmx7g3japNMcBR5h3DTakm-dw8LDUlQ&s=sdM-yprdjMBZs8KzD1I24hZtAT2U7o9D94Q58wQBhD8&e= , there is no any activity on it in recent 12 months.
The activity is in branch-2.7.
'trunk' branch (the main branch in GitBox/GitHub) is about 3.x but it is abandoned.
>
> Thanks,
> Jason
>
> On 4/20/21, 8:45 PM, "Roman Shaposhnik" <ro...@shaposhnik.org> wrote:
>
> A few years in the making indeed!
>
> Thanks,
> Roman.
>
> On Sun, Apr 18, 2021 at 9:10 PM Evans Ye <ev...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > Great news. I think it's a good move to have deeper integration with
> > ambari, and making Bigtop the 1st class offering out of box in Ambari.
> >
> > Ganesh Raju <ga...@linaro.org> 於 2021年4月19日 週一 上午10:13寫道：
> >
> > > Just forwarding email from ambari mailing list.
> > >
> > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> > > From: Szabolcs Beki <sz...@apache.org>
> > > Date: Sun, Apr 18, 2021 at 11:20 AM
> > > Subject: Re: The Future of Ambari
> > > To: <us...@ambari.apache.org>
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Raed,
> > >
> > > Yes, indeed. HDP and CDH are merging into CDP (Cloudera Data Platform).
> > > While most of the HDP stack is carried over, Ambari is being replaced by
> > > Cloudera Manager. Additionally all the HDP (and CDP) distributions are
> > > behind paywall.
> > >
> > > As most of the users were starting with HDP, they are often considered to
> > > be coupled, however Ambari is, at its core, a generic cluster
> > > management tool where you can create your own stack definitions
> > > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__cwiki.apache.org_confluence_display_AMBARI_Stacks-2Band-2BServices&d=DwIFaQ&c=DS6PUFBBr_KiLo7Sjt3ljp5jaW5k2i9ijVXllEdOozc&r=UflFQf1BWcrVtfjfN1LUqWWh-UBP5XtRGMdcDC-0P7o&m=k0xW0aH3xO6xFsvtAc-5w2_2fftTVhevbKHwp5ggCkQ&s=Wh4_5sUMQbqE6wA_pZsVEwEDY6507VcE3_qCS_bYivA&e= >.
> > > Bigtop <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__bigtop.apache.org_&d=DwIFaQ&c=DS6PUFBBr_KiLo7Sjt3ljp5jaW5k2i9ijVXllEdOozc&r=UflFQf1BWcrVtfjfN1LUqWWh-UBP5XtRGMdcDC-0P7o&m=k0xW0aH3xO6xFsvtAc-5w2_2fftTVhevbKHwp5ggCkQ&s=nJWQbiVIZpLIFjh2FLXjCLEzDLeZwAUylFc-mom5Lwg&e= > is also using Ambari, although an
> > > older
> > > version.
> > >
> > > The approach we are studying is the possibility of Ambari interoperating
> > > with the latest Bigtop version
> > > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__cwiki.apache.org_confluence_display_BIGTOP_Bigtop-2B1.5.0-2BRelease&d=DwIFaQ&c=DS6PUFBBr_KiLo7Sjt3ljp5jaW5k2i9ijVXllEdOozc&r=UflFQf1BWcrVtfjfN1LUqWWh-UBP5XtRGMdcDC-0P7o&m=k0xW0aH3xO6xFsvtAc-5w2_2fftTVhevbKHwp5ggCkQ&s=wefwDQb9WloDzsIgoPMkon20gh49SnIkWBGFJnafdM8&e= >
> > > (as of now Ambari 2.6.1 is used instead of 2.7.5).
> > >
> > > Szabi
> > >
> > > On Sun, Apr 18, 2021 at 1:28 PM AL HAZME, RAED <AL...@ngha.med.sa>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > With the merge of Hortonworks and Cloudera, and the obvious end of the
> > > > road for HDP. Is there any future for Ambari? Do we use it to manage our
> > > > newly acquired big data cluster, or shall we look somewhere else? Is
> > > there
> > > > another open source solution that could be considered as a replacement
> > > for
> > > > Ambari?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > *Best regards,*
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > *Raed*
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > This Email and any files transmitted may contain confidential and/or
> > > > privileged information and is intended solely for the addressee(s) named.
> > > > If you have received this information in error, or are being posted by
> > > > accident, please notify the sender by return Email, do not redistribute
> > > > this email message, delete it immediately and keep no copies of it. All
> > > > opinions and/or views expressed in this email are solely those of the
> > > > author and do not necessarily represent those of NGHA. Any purchase
> > > order,
> > > > purchase advice or legal commitment is only valid once backed by the
> > > signed
> > > > hardcopy by the authorized person from NGHA.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > IRC: ganeshraju@#linaro on irc.freenode.ne <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__irc.freenode.net_&d=DwIFaQ&c=DS6PUFBBr_KiLo7Sjt3ljp5jaW5k2i9ijVXllEdOozc&r=UflFQf1BWcrVtfjfN1LUqWWh-UBP5XtRGMdcDC-0P7o&m=k0xW0aH3xO6xFsvtAc-5w2_2fftTVhevbKHwp5ggCkQ&s=F94rEx7uRSI7WkbtmKGkGeAB7dOsfkIYVKNo1FJrv_0&e= >t
> > >
>
>
Re: [External Sender] Re: The Future of Ambari
Posted by Martin Tzvetanov Grigorov <mg...@apache.org>.
Hi,
On 2021/06/09 02:19:06, Jason Wen <zh...@workday.com.INVALID> wrote:
> It is a good move.
> However I am wondering if ambari community dead. I subscribed the user and developer mail list but don't see any discussion. Also when looking at https://github.com/apache/ambari, there is no any activity on it in recent 12 months.
The activity is in branch-2.7.
'trunk' branch (the main branch in GitBox/GitHub) is about 3.x but it is abandoned.
>
> Thanks,
> Jason
>
> On 4/20/21, 8:45 PM, "Roman Shaposhnik" <ro...@shaposhnik.org> wrote:
>
> A few years in the making indeed!
>
> Thanks,
> Roman.
>
> On Sun, Apr 18, 2021 at 9:10 PM Evans Ye <ev...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > Great news. I think it's a good move to have deeper integration with
> > ambari, and making Bigtop the 1st class offering out of box in Ambari.
> >
> > Ganesh Raju <ga...@linaro.org> 於 2021年4月19日 週一 上午10:13寫道：
> >
> > > Just forwarding email from ambari mailing list.
> > >
> > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> > > From: Szabolcs Beki <sz...@apache.org>
> > > Date: Sun, Apr 18, 2021 at 11:20 AM
> > > Subject: Re: The Future of Ambari
> > > To: <us...@ambari.apache.org>
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Raed,
> > >
> > > Yes, indeed. HDP and CDH are merging into CDP (Cloudera Data Platform).
> > > While most of the HDP stack is carried over, Ambari is being replaced by
> > > Cloudera Manager. Additionally all the HDP (and CDP) distributions are
> > > behind paywall.
> > >
> > > As most of the users were starting with HDP, they are often considered to
> > > be coupled, however Ambari is, at its core, a generic cluster
> > > management tool where you can create your own stack definitions
> > > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__cwiki.apache.org_confluence_display_AMBARI_Stacks-2Band-2BServices&d=DwIFaQ&c=DS6PUFBBr_KiLo7Sjt3ljp5jaW5k2i9ijVXllEdOozc&r=UflFQf1BWcrVtfjfN1LUqWWh-UBP5XtRGMdcDC-0P7o&m=k0xW0aH3xO6xFsvtAc-5w2_2fftTVhevbKHwp5ggCkQ&s=Wh4_5sUMQbqE6wA_pZsVEwEDY6507VcE3_qCS_bYivA&e= >.
> > > Bigtop <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__bigtop.apache.org_&d=DwIFaQ&c=DS6PUFBBr_KiLo7Sjt3ljp5jaW5k2i9ijVXllEdOozc&r=UflFQf1BWcrVtfjfN1LUqWWh-UBP5XtRGMdcDC-0P7o&m=k0xW0aH3xO6xFsvtAc-5w2_2fftTVhevbKHwp5ggCkQ&s=nJWQbiVIZpLIFjh2FLXjCLEzDLeZwAUylFc-mom5Lwg&e= > is also using Ambari, although an
> > > older
> > > version.
> > >
> > > The approach we are studying is the possibility of Ambari interoperating
> > > with the latest Bigtop version
> > > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__cwiki.apache.org_confluence_display_BIGTOP_Bigtop-2B1.5.0-2BRelease&d=DwIFaQ&c=DS6PUFBBr_KiLo7Sjt3ljp5jaW5k2i9ijVXllEdOozc&r=UflFQf1BWcrVtfjfN1LUqWWh-UBP5XtRGMdcDC-0P7o&m=k0xW0aH3xO6xFsvtAc-5w2_2fftTVhevbKHwp5ggCkQ&s=wefwDQb9WloDzsIgoPMkon20gh49SnIkWBGFJnafdM8&e= >
> > > (as of now Ambari 2.6.1 is used instead of 2.7.5).
> > >
> > > Szabi
> > >
> > > On Sun, Apr 18, 2021 at 1:28 PM AL HAZME, RAED <AL...@ngha.med.sa>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > With the merge of Hortonworks and Cloudera, and the obvious end of the
> > > > road for HDP. Is there any future for Ambari? Do we use it to manage our
> > > > newly acquired big data cluster, or shall we look somewhere else? Is
> > > there
> > > > another open source solution that could be considered as a replacement
> > > for
> > > > Ambari?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > *Best regards,*
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > *Raed*
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------
> > > >
> > > > This Email and any files transmitted may contain confidential and/or
> > > > privileged information and is intended solely for the addressee(s) named.
> > > > If you have received this information in error, or are being posted by
> > > > accident, please notify the sender by return Email, do not redistribute
> > > > this email message, delete it immediately and keep no copies of it. All
> > > > opinions and/or views expressed in this email are solely those of the
> > > > author and do not necessarily represent those of NGHA. Any purchase
> > > order,
> > > > purchase advice or legal commitment is only valid once backed by the
> > > signed
> > > > hardcopy by the authorized person from NGHA.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > IRC: ganeshraju@#linaro on irc.freenode.ne <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__irc.freenode.net_&d=DwIFaQ&c=DS6PUFBBr_KiLo7Sjt3ljp5jaW5k2i9ijVXllEdOozc&r=UflFQf1BWcrVtfjfN1LUqWWh-UBP5XtRGMdcDC-0P7o&m=k0xW0aH3xO6xFsvtAc-5w2_2fftTVhevbKHwp5ggCkQ&s=F94rEx7uRSI7WkbtmKGkGeAB7dOsfkIYVKNo1FJrv_0&e= >t
> > >
>
>