RE: How does Shale affect my Struts development

["Garner, Shawn" <sh...@pearson.com>]

If you've developed apps in the past with struts I'd just stay with struts.
My company is starting to do some projects with JSF so it is inevitable that
I will need to learn it so I'm trying to investigate shale.

Shawn

-----Original Message-----
From: Alexandre Poitras [mailto:alexandre.poitras@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 9:01 AM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: Re: How does Shale affect my Struts development

Bernhard is totally right. The choice you are facing is wheter you
want to go for now on with components-based frameworks (JSF/Shale,
Tapestry) or a typical action-based framework (Struts/Webwork). Struts
is supporting the two choices for the moment and I think it's great!

But don't ask for the pro and cons of each approach here or you'll
start a holy war! Just kidding ;)

On 12/29/05, Bernhard Slominski <be...@zooplus.com> wrote:
> Hi Jim,
>
> don't make the following mistake:
> "I use Struts but I want to move on, so I have to use Shale!"
>
> Shale is build ON TOP of JSF, so to understand the benefit of Shale you
have
> to know JSF.
> So the first question to ask yourself:
> "Do I want to move to JSF or is Struts just fine for me?"
> When you decided to move to JSF or to at least take a closer look at it
then
> after being familiar with JSF you can look at Shale and see if that's the
> right technology for you.
> I guess in your case you seem to be fine with Struts, so just stay with
it!
>
> Bernhard
>
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: Jim Reynolds [mailto:jim.jreynold@gmail.com]
> > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 29. Dezember 2005 15:10
> > An: user@struts.apache.org
> > Betreff: How does Shale affect my Struts development
> >
> >
> > First off, a little background. I have started using the 'Struts'
> > framework about 1 year ago. I have created three apps, and all is
> > moving along pretty well with the Struts and model 2 approach. I am
> > just starting to use more design patterns for my business logic, etc.
> >
> > Anyway, as you may be aware I frequent this list, and try to keep up
> > with what is going on with the Struts project.
> >
> > I am noticing a lot of 'Shale' discussion, and I have just finished
> > reading the link here <http://struts.apache.org/struts-shale/> and
> > franky, I am not sure what Shale brings to the table that is not
> > already included with Struts?
> >
> > I guess, the reason for this post is, I was hoping possibly there are
> > people out there who understand this Struts/Shale and could tell me
> > how to get started, and what the gain is. Whether the best approach is
> > to build a simple Struts app and convert it, or what steps I need to
> > take in order to be prepared and keep my skill set where it needs to
> > be.
> >
> > Regards
> >
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Alexandre Poitras
Québec, Canada

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