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Posted to general@jakarta.apache.org by Avi Cherry <al...@cafe.net> on 1999/11/10 12:17:55 UTC

Where are things?

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	It seems the status on the jakarta has not been updated 
recently and I am wondering where things are.  Is there an ETA for a 
release?  How about a Milestone?  I've been hoping to be able to use 
Jakarta in a consulting project that has a deadline of about 3 months 
from now.  Would it be realistic to expect a moderately 
stable/complete version up and running by then?  Is development at a 
point where me trying to build something 'real' with Jakarta (and 
rooting out bugs that way) would be a help to the main development 
team, or are there too many missing pieces to even bother?

Answers to any of these questions would be helpful.

Thank you.
Avi Cherry

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Re: Changes FAQ

Posted by "Anil K. Vijendran" <An...@eng.sun.com>.
I agree it would be good to have a Changes document. That would make a lot
more sense once we start having releases (happening soon). I don't think the
Changes document should list all specification changes. There is a place for
that and that is in the specification. It should be enough for us to say in
the Changes document for example that a new release implements Servlet 2.2.

We should checkin a Changes file into the repository after the first milestone
build. After that people can start editing it everytime someone adds a new
feature or fixes a bug.

Luc Saint-Elie wrote:

> Hello
>
> Tomcat grows pretty quickly (and to answer a previous question is pretty
> usable in its current form, we here use it in an intranet without problem)
> but 2.2 API has some changes from 2.1
>
> For example expresso from www.javacorporate.com compiles with 2.1 but not
> with 2.2 because a getServletName( problem
>
> (com\javacorporate\common\servlet\StdServlet.java:111: The method
> java.lang.String getServletName() declared in class
> com.javacorporate.common.servlet.StdServlet cannot override the method of
> the same signature declared in class javax.servlet.GenericServlet.  The
> access modifier is made more restrictive.)
>
> If there are several other point that could break things it would be great
> to maintain a porting FAQ (I'm volunteer to maintain it)
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Peace, Anil +<:-)



Changes FAQ

Posted by Luc Saint-Elie <ls...@imaginet.fr>.
Hello

Tomcat grows pretty quickly (and to answer a previous question is pretty 
usable in its current form, we here use it in an intranet without problem) 
but 2.2 API has some changes from 2.1

For example expresso from www.javacorporate.com compiles with 2.1 but not 
with 2.2 because a getServletName( problem

(com\javacorporate\common\servlet\StdServlet.java:111: The method 
java.lang.String getServletName() declared in class 
com.javacorporate.common.servlet.StdServlet cannot override the method of 
the same signature declared in class javax.servlet.GenericServlet.  The 
access modifier is made more restrictive.)

If there are several other point that could break things it would be great 
to maintain a porting FAQ (I'm volunteer to maintain it)
+------------------------------------------------+
| Luc Saint-Elie                                 |
| 53, rue Caulaincourt                           |
| 75018  Paris France                            |
| Tel: 01 42 52 09 62 / 06 12 90 19 65           |
| email : team@interpasnet.com                   |
+------------------------------------------------+
|  Java Server Side  Open Source technologies    |
|       http://www.interpasnet.com/JSS           |
+------------------------------------------------+


Re: Where are things?

Posted by James Davidson <du...@x180.com>.
> I've got an NT box that I'll be setting up tommorrow with the required
> peices to do the nightly builds and tests on NT (in a similar manner to
> what's happening on Solaris).

Just as a status update -- the NT box is installed and in the lab, but not
talking to the network. Apparently Compaq decided to put a network card into
the machine that's not supported out of the box by NT Server. Phppt! Maybe
tommorrow. If things go well, NT builds will be coming on line sometime this
weekend.

.duncan


Re: Where are things?

Posted by James Davidson <du...@x180.com>.
> Once we have a few nightly builds / results
> under our belts on both Solaris and NT I'd like to pop an M1. I'm aiming
for
> Sunday or Monday on this.

Since we've got some test failures in the product tests for Tomcat, we
probably should hold till those are fixed before the M1. Right now the
product tests are passing with flying colors on the J2EE FCS branch, so
there's something related to the merge from that branch to the trunk that
needs to be looked at.

Once we have a clean bill of health on the product tests, then we should pop
the M1.

.duncan


Re: Where are things?

Posted by James Davidson <du...@x180.com>.
> Of course not all/any of these need to be done for milestone builds.
They'll
> happen soon as Duncan sez.

I've got an NT box that I'll be setting up tommorrow with the required
peices to do the nightly builds and tests on NT (in a similar manner to
what's happening on Solaris). Once we have a few nightly builds / results
under our belts on both Solaris and NT I'd like to pop an M1. I'm aiming for
Sunday or Monday on this.

Any objections?

.duncan


Re: Where are things?

Posted by "Anil K. Vijendran" <An...@eng.sun.com>.
James Davidson wrote:

> > It seems the status on the jakarta has not been updated
> > recently and I am wondering where things are.  Is there an ETA for a
> > release?
>
> There's a release plan that was discussed on tomcat-dev. It hasn't yet
> crystallized out which is why it's not yet posted.

There's a few things that need to be done before we can have a release.
Tentatively in my mind (and a few others at Sun I've discussed this with) we
were planning to have a major release in January. Tomcat Y2K :-)

Some TODO items off the top of my head are:

  1. Get automated builds for Tomcat standalone and Apache atleast on 3
     platforms we care about (Solaris, Linux, mainly and NT if we get around to
     automate building that, if not someone can manually build and put
     milestone/nightly builds there)
  2. There's quite a few bugs that some of us know exist in Tomcat. Fix most of
     them.
  3. Get Watchdog up and running well (a review+feedback on those tests would
     also be good) so that we can actually start using it on a daily basis.
  4. Some performance improvements on Tomcat.
  5. Some rearchitecting to better integrate with Apache etc... (Costin can tell
     you about some ideas he has.)
  6. I'm sure Craig has a few items he'd be interested in.

In general, get the base system (servlet/jsp support and apache connectors)
rocking :-)

Of course not all/any of these need to be done for milestone builds. They'll
happen soon as Duncan sez.

--
Peace, Anil +<:-)



Re: Where are things?

Posted by James Davidson <du...@x180.com>.
> It seems the status on the jakarta has not been updated
> recently and I am wondering where things are.  Is there an ETA for a
> release?

There's a release plan that was discussed on tomcat-dev. It hasn't yet
crystallized out which is why it's not yet posted.

> How about a Milestone?

I was going to propose putting a M1 out as soon as the nightly builds on
Solaris and NT are up and running smoothly. We're in the process of making
that happen right now.

> I've been hoping to be able to use
> Jakarta in a consulting project that has a deadline of about 3 months
> from now.  Would it be realistic to expect a moderately
> stable/complete version up and running by then?  Is development at a
> point where me trying to build something 'real' with Jakarta (and
> rooting out bugs that way) would be a help to the main development
> team, or are there too many missing pieces to even bother?

It's definitly usable. Things are changing, but the core functionality is
there and ready to be used. As to whether it's in good enough shape for you
to use in your project, that's something that only you can answer by pulling
it down and seeing if it works for you in your situtation.

.duncan