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Posted to users@spamassassin.apache.org by Julio Sun Tours <ju...@suntourshawaii.com> on 2004/04/17 03:10:48 UTC
Bouncing emails
Greetings all.
I recently installed spamassasin with postfix, clamav, amavis & squirrelmail
and I'm already getting some errors when trying to send email thru squirrel
mail, this is the message that I get bounced:
Reporting-MTA: dns; web.example.com
X-Postfix-Queue-ID: 6F40833239A
X-Postfix-Sender: rfc822; user@example.com
Arrival-Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 14:19:56 -1000 (HST)
Final-Recipient: rfc822; julio@hawaii.rr.com
Action: failed
Status: 5.0.0
Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; Command died with status 1: "/usr/bin/spamc"
Any ideas why this is happening?
Thanks for your help
Julio
Julio at Sun Tours
IT Sun Tours & Travel Inc.
98-1247 Kaahumanu St.
<http://maps.yahoo.com/py/maps.py?Pyt=Tmap&addr=98-1247+Kaahumanu+St.&csz=Ai
ea%2C+HI+96701&country=us>
Suite 114
Aiea, HI 96701
julio@suntourshawaii.com
tel:
fax: 808-488-7676
808-488-5553
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RE: [inbox] Re: Bouncing emails
Posted by Evan Platt <ev...@espphotography.com>.
At 07:47 PM 4/19/2004, you wrote:
>
>I was going to reply to this with something nasty but I just changed my mind
>and I'll just swallow it and go elsewhere for help or like I said before
>I'll read the manual when I get the time...
>Anyways thank you for your help and education, I'll be sure not to ask for
>anymore help around here...
I think you missed my point - Feel free to ask for help. But don't ask for
people to do your work for you, and expect people to be willing to help.
Your question is covered in the manual, and has even been asked here - heck
it's probably asked once every other week. Just the regulars here get kind
of annoyed as you can imagine when the same question - one that's covered
in the manual.
I also noticed this post was your first post here. The general nettiquite
is to lurk for a bit to see if your question isn't covered or a FAQ is
posted on a daily / weekly basis. This is kind of like walking into a open
forum in the middle of it and blurting out your question.
The quick answer is SpamAssassin doesn't scan incoming our outgoing
messages - it scans what you tell it to do.
Evan
Re: [inbox] Re: Bouncing emails
Posted by Mark <ad...@asarian-host.net>.
Julio Sun Tours wrote:
> I was going to reply to this with something nasty but I just changed
> my mind and I'll just swallow it and go elsewhere for help or like I
> said before I'll read the manual when I get the time...
> Anyways thank you for your help and education, I'll be sure not to
> ask for anymore help around here...
Sorry to see you go. SpamAssassin is really an excellent product.
As for the reason of your departure, I would myself probably have worded
things differently. But when your hurt subsides, I'm sure you will agree
that coming on a list, defiantly introducing yourself with, "I'm a noob and
hardly read any of the documentation," was, in all honesty, not your most
tactical approach. :)
People are actually quite helpful here -- even when, strictly speaking, the
answer to a question is on some FAQ of sorts. In practice, though, I have
rarely seen people play hard-ball that way. I guess people, in general, need
to feel you made at least a minimal effort to solve the problem yourself;
and with your comment, I suppose you slipped under that requirement.
Let me suggest you just stay. Chalk off your earlier comment as an
unfortunate expression of your desire for help, smile a bit upon yourself in
the process, and find, as have I, that this is actually quite a decent
community. Really. :)
Cheers!
- Mark
System Administrator Asarian-host.org
---
"If you were supposed to understand it,
we wouldn't call it code." - FedEx
RE: [inbox] Re: Bouncing emails
Posted by Julio Sun Tours <ju...@suntourshawaii.com>.
I was going to reply to this with something nasty but I just changed my mind
and I'll just swallow it and go elsewhere for help or like I said before
I'll read the manual when I get the time...
Anyways thank you for your help and education, I'll be sure not to ask for
anymore help around here...
Julio
At 06:23 PM 4/19/2004, you wrote:
>
>Thank you for the enlightening Steve.
>I'll try to read it if I ever get the time....
Guessing based on the fact that you're posting from a company-ish account, I
can only assume your an IT person at Sun Tours Hawaii. Continuing on that
assumption, I'm guessing your job (i.e. the source of your income) is as an
IT person at Sun Tours Hawaii. Continuing on that assumption, part of your
JOB is to install SpamAssassin. To take on this task, and take the attitude
of "I'm a noob, and I refuse to read the manual, someone do my work for me"
will NOT get you any help. I think you'll notice all of the posts that get
help start out with "I read the documentation, and I still can't find an
answer...". You'll then notice either someone will reply with "The answer IS
in the manual, read chapter 4" or "Oh wow, you're right, that isn't in the
manual. To do this, do the following:"
If you don't have the time to read a manual for software you're being paid
to install, you may want to go to your boss and tell them this. Perhaps they
need to hire someone else to do your job, or hire on additional help.
<HINT 1:> To ask "How do I get spamassassin not to scan outgoing e-mails"
shows you've missed a fundamental part of spamassassin: <HINT
2:>SpamAssassin only does what it's told.
Those two hints should help you.
Evan
RE: [inbox] Re: Bouncing emails
Posted by Evan Platt <ev...@espphotography.com>.
At 06:23 PM 4/19/2004, you wrote:
>
>Thank you for the enlightening Steve.
>I'll try to read it if I ever get the time....
Guessing based on the fact that you're posting from a company-ish account,
I can only assume your an IT person at Sun Tours Hawaii. Continuing on that
assumption, I'm guessing your job (i.e. the source of your income) is as an
IT person at Sun Tours Hawaii. Continuing on that assumption, part of your
JOB is to install SpamAssassin. To take on this task, and take the attitude
of "I'm a noob, and I refuse to read the manual, someone do my work for me"
will NOT get you any help. I think you'll notice all of the posts that get
help start out with "I read the documentation, and I still can't find an
answer...". You'll then notice either someone will reply with "The answer
IS in the manual, read chapter 4" or "Oh wow, you're right, that isn't in
the manual. To do this, do the following:"
If you don't have the time to read a manual for software you're being paid
to install, you may want to go to your boss and tell them this. Perhaps
they need to hire someone else to do your job, or hire on additional help.
<HINT 1:> To ask "How do I get spamassassin not to scan outgoing e-mails"
shows you've missed a fundamental part of spamassassin: <HINT
2:>SpamAssassin only does what it's told.
Those two hints should help you.
Evan
RE: [inbox] Re: [Spam] Bouncing emails
Posted by Julio Sun Tours <ju...@suntourshawaii.com>.
Thank you for the enlightening Steve.
I'll try to read it if I ever get the time....
Julio
----Original Message-----
From: Steven Dickenson [mailto:steven@mrchuckles.net]
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 3:18 PM
To: julio@suntourshawaii.com
Cc: spamassassin-users@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: [inbox] Re: [Spam] Bouncing emails
Julio Sun Tours wrote:
> Correct, this is a default install, also I'm a noob and hardly read
> any of the documentation, How do you tell SA to not scan outgoing
> email.
You don't. You tell Amavis not to run SpamAssassin on your outgoing mail.
For that, I'd suggest your break your pattern and RTFM.
Steven
--
Steven Dickenson <st...@mrchuckles.net> http://www.mrchuckles.net
Re: [inbox] Re: [Spam] Bouncing emails
Posted by Steven Dickenson <st...@mrchuckles.net>.
Julio Sun Tours wrote:
> Correct, this is a default install, also I'm a noob and hardly read any of
> the documentation,
> How do you tell SA to not scan outgoing email.
You don't. You tell Amavis not to run SpamAssassin on your outgoing
mail. For that, I'd suggest your break your pattern and RTFM.
Steven
--
Steven Dickenson <st...@mrchuckles.net>
http://www.mrchuckles.net
RE: [inbox] Re: [Spam] Bouncing emails
Posted by Julio Sun Tours <ju...@suntourshawaii.com>.
Correct, this is a default install, also I'm a noob and hardly read any of
the documentation,
How do you tell SA to not scan outgoing email.
Sorry for the late reply...
TIA
Julio
-----Original Message-----
From: Marco Maske [mailto:maskemarco@netcologne.de]
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 11:35 PM
To: spamassassin-users@incubator.apache.org
Subject: [inbox] Re: [Spam] Bouncing emails
Am Samstag, 17. April 2004 07:47 wrote Evan Platt:
> Why are you scanning outgoing e-mail?
You did this. OK. That's default with amavis-new and SA. But it's your
choise for scanning mail in or out for spam, virus or attachment.
One reason to scanning outgoing e-mail for spam is, train bayes.
--
Ciao Marco, registered GNU/Linux-User 313353
Re: [Spam] Bouncing emails
Posted by Marco Maske <ma...@netcologne.de>.
Am Samstag, 17. April 2004 07:47 wrote Evan Platt:
> Why are you scanning outgoing e-mail?
You did this. OK. That's default with amavis-new and SA. But it's your
choise for scanning mail in or out for spam, virus or attachment.
One reason to scanning outgoing e-mail for spam is, train bayes.
--
Ciao Marco, registered GNU/Linux-User 313353
Re: [Spam] Bouncing emails
Posted by Evan Platt <ev...@espphotography.com>.
At 06:10 PM 4/16/2004, you wrote:
>Greetings all.
>
>I recently installed spamassasin with postfix, clamav, amavis &
>squirrelmail and I'm already getting some errors when trying to send email
>thru squirrel mail, this is the message that I get bounced:
<SNIP>
>Diagnostic-Code: X-Postfix; Command died with status 1: "/usr/bin/spamc"
Why are you scanning outgoing e-mail?
Evan