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Posted to log4j-dev@logging.apache.org by Isuru Suriarachchi <is...@gmail.com> on 2007/03/20 12:53:34 UTC
Tailing capability for VFS log Receiver in Chainsaw
Hi Paul and Scott,
I'm was talking about implementing tailing capability in the VFS log
Receiver as a GSoC project. I went through the documentations and tried the
samples in Chainsaw. And also I looked at the implementation in
VFSLogFilePatternReceiver using commons-vfs.
Currently I'm working on writing the proposal for the project. It should
contain the following topics.
Synopsis
Deliverables
Project Details
Project Plan
and some details about my self
I have come up with some doubts. Can you tell me the exact scope of the
project with all the functionality required from this tailing capability, as
I should mention it in the proposal. I wonder whether this is enough for
GSoC. (This can be due to my less understanding on the project. correct me
if it is the case) Because the time period is about 2-3 months.
If you can send me some sort of a detailed description with the exact scope
of the project considering the time period of the project it will help me a
lot to write the proposal clearly. Please consider the above topics which
should be included in the proposal.
thanks,
~Isuru
Re: Tailing capability for VFS log Receiver in Chainsaw
Posted by Isuru Suriarachchi <is...@gmail.com>.
Hi Scott,
I submitted the proposal with all the new changes...
On 3/22/07, Scott Deboy <sd...@comotivsystems.com> wrote:
>
> Added to the wiki and applied as a mentor.
Thanks a lot,
~Isuru
Scott Deboy
> COMOTIV SYSTEMS
> 111 SW Columbia Street Ste. 950
> Portland, OR 97201
>
> Telephone: 503.224.7496
> Cell: 503.997.1367
> Fax: 503.222.0185
>
> sdeboy@comotivsystems.com
>
> www.comotivsystems.com
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Isuru Suriarachchi [mailto:isurues@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wed 3/21/2007 11:11 PM
> To: Log4J Developers List
> Subject: Re: Tailing capability for VFS log Receiver in Chainsaw
>
> Hi Scott and Paul,
>
> Please put this project on the apache wiki at...
>
> http://wiki.apache.org/general/SummerOfCode2007
>
> Because I think it should be there before the deadline (26th of March) to
> be
> considered in the vote.
>
> Thanks,
> ~Isuru
>
> On 3/22/07, Isuru Suriarachchi <is...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Scott,
> >
> > I changed the proposal according to your suggestions and now I feel lot
> > more comfortable as it is exactly under your recommendation. :-)
> >
> > On 3/22/07, Scott Deboy <sd...@comotivsystems.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Looks good.here are some changes I'd suggest (requesting new features
> > > along the way):
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I'd suggest you work on things in this order:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > - Implement tailing capability in the VFS log viewer
> > >
> > > 2 weeks
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > - Add ability to remember filter expressions and search expressions
> > > between Chainsaw restarts
> > >
> > > 2 weeks
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > - (NEW) add goto-line feature with keyboard shortcut
> > >
> > > 5 days
> > >
> >
> > - got a week
> >
> > - (NEW) add ability to hide/show welcome and drag & drop tabs and
> remember
> > > that setting between restarts
> > >
> > > 5 days
> > >
> >
> > - got a week
> >
> > - (NEW) maintain selected line when applying a filter if the selected
> line
> > > passes the filter expression
> > >
> > > 5 days
> > >
> >
> > - got a week
> >
> > - Improve the receiver creation panel and ability to change receiver
> > > configurations in runtime
> > >
> > > 2 weeks
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > - Improve the Chainsaw documentation and tutorials according to the
> new
> > > features and improvements
> > >
> > > 1 week
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The expression mechanism could be a time sink. I'd suggest making it
> > > one of those 'try to fit it in' tasks, unless you're really interested
> in
> > > it. I'd say the same for changing how colors are persisted, since
> it's not
> > > been an issue up to this point.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I'd also suggest changing the description of 'main goal' of the
> project
> > > to something about 'adding functionality and usability improvements to
> > > Chainsaw'.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hope this helps - let me know what you think.
> > >
> >
> > Yes why not, as you are the main designers of Chainsaw. Thanks a lot...
> >
> > One more thing.. I think the mentors also have to register and there is
> > some sort of a voting going on when selecting the proposals in Apache,
> isn't
> > it? So please pay your attention on that..
> >
> > Thanks,
> > ~Isuru
> >
> > Scott Deboy
> > > *Principal Engineer**
> > > COMOTIV** SYSTEMS**
> > > **111 SW Columbia Street Ste. 950**
> > > Portland, OR 97201
> > > Office: 503.224.7496
> > > Direct Line: 503.821.6482
> > > Cell: 503.997.1367
> > > Fax: 503.222.0185
> > > sdeboy@comotivsystems.com
> > > ** www.comotivsystems.com*
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > *From:* Isuru Suriarachchi [mailto:isurues@gmail.com]
> > > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 21, 2007 4:49 AM
> > > *To:* Log4J Developers List
> > > *Subject:* Re: Tailing capability for VFS log Receiver in Chainsaw
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Paul and Scott,
> > >
> > > I have completed the proposal and posted it at,
> > >
> > >
> http://wiki.apache.org/general/IsuruSuriarachchi/2007GSoCProposal/EnhancingChainsaw
> > >
> > >
> > > Please go through the proposal and check whether it is clear and
> > > complete. If there are any issues, please tell me. Then I can edit it
> as I
> > > haven't submitted the proposal yet.
> > >
> > > GSoC program time line is available at,
> > >
> > > http://code.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=60325&topic=10729
> > >
> > > Check whether my project plan is OK with the above time line. If the
> > > tasks I have specified will take more time or if there is any other
> issue,
> > > please tell. Then I can reduce the tasks in the proposal and
> concentrate on
> > > them if I will have enough time at the end. Think the schedule can be
> > > negotiated and adjusted accordingly as the project goes on. ;-)
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > ~Isuru
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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Re: Tailing capability for VFS log Receiver in Chainsaw
Posted by Paul Smith <ps...@aconex.com>.
Well I'm really glad someone has taken an interest in Chainsaw. The
VFS tailing feature of ssh is personally one I'd love, because we
could really use it here at Aconex.
Along that note, and to get you thinking (and planning for our
Logging setup here at Aconex), that the VFS receiver with tailing
capability should be able to be given a "last X Mb" feature. Some of
our log files are large, so if I want to attach Chainsaw to it, I'm
really only generally interested in some time period close to the
period I connect, so grabbing the last X Mbytes into Chainsaw and
then tailing is a nice feature without having to swallow the entire log.
On 23/03/2007, at 2:26 PM, Isuru Suriarachchi wrote:
> Hi paul,
>
> It seems like you are really busy these days, anyway thank you very
> much for your interest...
>
> ~Isuru
>
Re: Tailing capability for VFS log Receiver in Chainsaw
Posted by Isuru Suriarachchi <is...@gmail.com>.
Hi paul,
Yes. The projects are in an approval stage and the mentors are voting
for the proposals. So the proposals with highest points will be
approved and announced on 11th of April 2007.
I think you have already assigned yourself as my mentor. Thanks very
much for your interest in this. And also some others have given me
some points.
Actually there is nothing left which you haven't done. :-) But I think
I'll need some more points and hopefully some other mentors will vote
for me.
Thanks,
~Isuru
On 3/30/07, Paul Smith <ps...@aconex.com> wrote:
>
> On 23/03/2007, at 2:26 PM, Isuru Suriarachchi wrote:
>
> > Hi paul,
> >
> > It seems like you are really busy these days, anyway thank you very
> > much for your interest...
> >
> > ~Isuru
> >
>
> Hi Again, not sure exactly about the process from here, I see the
> GSOC projects are still going through an approval stage, is that
> right? Please let me know if there's something we haven't done yet
> that is needed for your project.
>
> cheers,
>
> Paul Smith
>
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Re: Tailing capability for VFS log Receiver in Chainsaw
Posted by Paul Smith <ps...@aconex.com>.
On 23/03/2007, at 2:26 PM, Isuru Suriarachchi wrote:
> Hi paul,
>
> It seems like you are really busy these days, anyway thank you very
> much for your interest...
>
> ~Isuru
>
Hi Again, not sure exactly about the process from here, I see the
GSOC projects are still going through an approval stage, is that
right? Please let me know if there's something we haven't done yet
that is needed for your project.
cheers,
Paul Smith
Re: Tailing capability for VFS log Receiver in Chainsaw
Posted by Isuru Suriarachchi <is...@gmail.com>.
Hi paul,
It seems like you are really busy these days, anyway thank you very much for
your interest...
~Isuru
On 3/23/07, Paul Smith <ps...@aconex.com> wrote:
>
> I've applied to be a mentor as well. Not sure if an Apache org admin
> needs to 'bless' us.
>
> Scott, thanks for updating the Wiki. I swear the hours in a day are being
> consumed faster these days.....
>
> On 22/03/2007, at 5:38 PM, Scott Deboy wrote:
>
> Added to the wiki and applied as a mentor.
>
>
>
>
> Scott Deboy
> COMOTIV SYSTEMS
> 111 SW Columbia Street Ste. 950
> Portland, OR 97201
>
>
> Telephone: 503.224.7496
> Cell: 503.997.1367
> Fax: 503.222.0185
>
>
> sdeboy@comotivsystems.com
>
>
> www.comotivsystems.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Isuru Suriarachchi [mailto:isurues@gmail.com <is...@gmail.com>]
> Sent: Wed 3/21/2007 11:11 PM
> To: Log4J Developers List
> Subject: Re: Tailing capability for VFS log Receiver in Chainsaw
>
>
> Hi Scott and Paul,
>
>
> Please put this project on the apache wiki at...
>
>
> http://wiki.apache.org/general/SummerOfCode2007
>
>
> Because I think it should be there before the deadline (26th of March) to
> be
> considered in the vote.
>
>
> Thanks,
> ~Isuru
>
>
> On 3/22/07, Isuru Suriarachchi <is...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi Scott,
>
>
> I changed the proposal according to your suggestions and now I feel lot
> more comfortable as it is exactly under your recommendation. :-)
>
>
> On 3/22/07, Scott Deboy <sd...@comotivsystems.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Looks good.here are some changes I'd suggest (requesting new features
> along the way):
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I'd suggest you work on things in this order:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> - Implement tailing capability in the VFS log viewer
>
>
> 2 weeks
>
>
>
>
>
>
> - Add ability to remember filter expressions and search expressions
> between Chainsaw restarts
>
>
> 2 weeks
>
>
>
>
>
>
> - (NEW) add goto-line feature with keyboard shortcut
>
>
> 5 days
>
>
>
>
>
> - got a week
>
>
> - (NEW) add ability to hide/show welcome and drag & drop tabs and remember
>
> that setting between restarts
>
>
> 5 days
>
>
>
>
>
> - got a week
>
>
> - (NEW) maintain selected line when applying a filter if the selected line
>
> passes the filter expression
>
>
> 5 days
>
>
>
>
>
> - got a week
>
>
> - Improve the receiver creation panel and ability to change receiver
>
> configurations in runtime
>
>
> 2 weeks
>
>
>
>
>
>
> - Improve the Chainsaw documentation and tutorials according to the new
> features and improvements
>
>
> 1 week
>
>
>
>
>
>
> The expression mechanism could be a time sink. I'd suggest making it
> one of those 'try to fit it in' tasks, unless you're really interested in
> it. I'd say the same for changing how colors are persisted, since it's
> not
> been an issue up to this point.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I'd also suggest changing the description of 'main goal' of the project
> to something about 'adding functionality and usability improvements to
> Chainsaw'.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hope this helps - let me know what you think.
>
>
>
>
>
> Yes why not, as you are the main designers of Chainsaw. Thanks a lot...
>
>
> One more thing.. I think the mentors also have to register and there is
> some sort of a voting going on when selecting the proposals in Apache,
> isn't
> it? So please pay your attention on that..
>
>
> Thanks,
> ~Isuru
>
>
> Scott Deboy
>
> *Principal Engineer**
> COMOTIV** SYSTEMS**
> **111 SW Columbia Street Ste. 950**
> Portland, OR 97201
> Office: 503.224.7496
> Direct Line: 503.821.6482
> Cell: 503.997.1367
> Fax: 503.222.0185
> sdeboy@comotivsystems.com
> ** www.comotivsystems.com*
> ------------------------------
>
>
> *From:* Isuru Suriarachchi [mailto:isurues@gmail.com <is...@gmail.com>]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 21, 2007 4:49 AM
> *To:* Log4J Developers List
> *Subject:* Re: Tailing capability for VFS log Receiver in Chainsaw
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi Paul and Scott,
>
>
> I have completed the proposal and posted it at,
>
>
>
> http://wiki.apache.org/general/IsuruSuriarachchi/2007GSoCProposal/EnhancingChainsaw
>
>
>
>
> Please go through the proposal and check whether it is clear and
> complete. If there are any issues, please tell me. Then I can edit it as I
> haven't submitted the proposal yet.
>
>
> GSoC program time line is available at,
>
>
> http://code.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=60325&topic=10729
>
>
> Check whether my project plan is OK with the above time line. If the
> tasks I have specified will take more time or if there is any other issue,
> please tell. Then I can reduce the tasks in the proposal and concentrate
> on
> them if I will have enough time at the end. Think the schedule can be
> negotiated and adjusted accordingly as the project goes on. ;-)
>
>
> Thanks,
> ~Isuru
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Tailing capability for VFS log Receiver in Chainsaw
Posted by Paul Smith <ps...@aconex.com>.
I've applied to be a mentor as well. Not sure if an Apache org admin
needs to 'bless' us.
Scott, thanks for updating the Wiki. I swear the hours in a day are
being consumed faster these days.....
On 22/03/2007, at 5:38 PM, Scott Deboy wrote:
> Added to the wiki and applied as a mentor.
>
>
> Scott Deboy
> COMOTIV SYSTEMS
> 111 SW Columbia Street Ste. 950
> Portland, OR 97201
>
> Telephone: 503.224.7496
> Cell: 503.997.1367
> Fax: 503.222.0185
>
> sdeboy@comotivsystems.com
>
> www.comotivsystems.com
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Isuru Suriarachchi [mailto:isurues@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wed 3/21/2007 11:11 PM
> To: Log4J Developers List
> Subject: Re: Tailing capability for VFS log Receiver in Chainsaw
>
> Hi Scott and Paul,
>
> Please put this project on the apache wiki at...
>
> http://wiki.apache.org/general/SummerOfCode2007
>
> Because I think it should be there before the deadline (26th of
> March) to be
> considered in the vote.
>
> Thanks,
> ~Isuru
>
> On 3/22/07, Isuru Suriarachchi <is...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Scott,
>>
>> I changed the proposal according to your suggestions and now I
>> feel lot
>> more comfortable as it is exactly under your recommendation. :-)
>>
>> On 3/22/07, Scott Deboy <sd...@comotivsystems.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Looks good.here are some changes I'd suggest (requesting new
>>> features
>>> along the way):
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'd suggest you work on things in this order:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> - Implement tailing capability in the VFS log viewer
>>>
>>> 2 weeks
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> - Add ability to remember filter expressions and search expressions
>>> between Chainsaw restarts
>>>
>>> 2 weeks
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> - (NEW) add goto-line feature with keyboard shortcut
>>>
>>> 5 days
>>>
>>
>> - got a week
>>
>> - (NEW) add ability to hide/show welcome and drag & drop tabs and
>> remember
>>> that setting between restarts
>>>
>>> 5 days
>>>
>>
>> - got a week
>>
>> - (NEW) maintain selected line when applying a filter if the
>> selected line
>>> passes the filter expression
>>>
>>> 5 days
>>>
>>
>> - got a week
>>
>> - Improve the receiver creation panel and ability to change receiver
>>> configurations in runtime
>>>
>>> 2 weeks
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> - Improve the Chainsaw documentation and tutorials according to
>>> the new
>>> features and improvements
>>>
>>> 1 week
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The expression mechanism could be a time sink. I'd suggest
>>> making it
>>> one of those 'try to fit it in' tasks, unless you're really
>>> interested in
>>> it. I'd say the same for changing how colors are persisted,
>>> since it's not
>>> been an issue up to this point.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'd also suggest changing the description of 'main goal' of the
>>> project
>>> to something about 'adding functionality and usability
>>> improvements to
>>> Chainsaw'.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hope this helps - let me know what you think.
>>>
>>
>> Yes why not, as you are the main designers of Chainsaw. Thanks a
>> lot...
>>
>> One more thing.. I think the mentors also have to register and
>> there is
>> some sort of a voting going on when selecting the proposals in
>> Apache, isn't
>> it? So please pay your attention on that..
>>
>> Thanks,
>> ~Isuru
>>
>> Scott Deboy
>>> *Principal Engineer**
>>> COMOTIV** SYSTEMS**
>>> **111 SW Columbia Street Ste. 950**
>>> Portland, OR 97201
>>> Office: 503.224.7496
>>> Direct Line: 503.821.6482
>>> Cell: 503.997.1367
>>> Fax: 503.222.0185
>>> sdeboy@comotivsystems.com
>>> ** www.comotivsystems.com*
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> *From:* Isuru Suriarachchi [mailto:isurues@gmail.com]
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 21, 2007 4:49 AM
>>> *To:* Log4J Developers List
>>> *Subject:* Re: Tailing capability for VFS log Receiver in Chainsaw
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Paul and Scott,
>>>
>>> I have completed the proposal and posted it at,
>>>
>>> http://wiki.apache.org/general/IsuruSuriarachchi/2007GSoCProposal/
>>> EnhancingChainsaw
>>>
>>>
>>> Please go through the proposal and check whether it is clear and
>>> complete. If there are any issues, please tell me. Then I can
>>> edit it as I
>>> haven't submitted the proposal yet.
>>>
>>> GSoC program time line is available at,
>>>
>>> http://code.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?
>>> answer=60325&topic=10729
>>>
>>> Check whether my project plan is OK with the above time line. If the
>>> tasks I have specified will take more time or if there is any
>>> other issue,
>>> please tell. Then I can reduce the tasks in the proposal and
>>> concentrate on
>>> them if I will have enough time at the end. Think the schedule
>>> can be
>>> negotiated and adjusted accordingly as the project goes on. ;-)
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> ~Isuru
>>>
>>
>>
>
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RE: Tailing capability for VFS log Receiver in Chainsaw
Posted by Scott Deboy <sd...@comotivsystems.com>.
Added to the wiki and applied as a mentor.
Scott Deboy
COMOTIV SYSTEMS
111 SW Columbia Street Ste. 950
Portland, OR 97201
Telephone: 503.224.7496
Cell: 503.997.1367
Fax: 503.222.0185
sdeboy@comotivsystems.com
www.comotivsystems.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Isuru Suriarachchi [mailto:isurues@gmail.com]
Sent: Wed 3/21/2007 11:11 PM
To: Log4J Developers List
Subject: Re: Tailing capability for VFS log Receiver in Chainsaw
Hi Scott and Paul,
Please put this project on the apache wiki at...
http://wiki.apache.org/general/SummerOfCode2007
Because I think it should be there before the deadline (26th of March) to be
considered in the vote.
Thanks,
~Isuru
On 3/22/07, Isuru Suriarachchi <is...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Scott,
>
> I changed the proposal according to your suggestions and now I feel lot
> more comfortable as it is exactly under your recommendation. :-)
>
> On 3/22/07, Scott Deboy <sd...@comotivsystems.com> wrote:
> >
> > Looks good.here are some changes I'd suggest (requesting new features
> > along the way):
> >
> >
> >
> > I'd suggest you work on things in this order:
> >
> >
> >
> > - Implement tailing capability in the VFS log viewer
> >
> > 2 weeks
> >
> >
> >
> > - Add ability to remember filter expressions and search expressions
> > between Chainsaw restarts
> >
> > 2 weeks
> >
> >
> >
> > - (NEW) add goto-line feature with keyboard shortcut
> >
> > 5 days
> >
>
> - got a week
>
> - (NEW) add ability to hide/show welcome and drag & drop tabs and remember
> > that setting between restarts
> >
> > 5 days
> >
>
> - got a week
>
> - (NEW) maintain selected line when applying a filter if the selected line
> > passes the filter expression
> >
> > 5 days
> >
>
> - got a week
>
> - Improve the receiver creation panel and ability to change receiver
> > configurations in runtime
> >
> > 2 weeks
> >
> >
> >
> > - Improve the Chainsaw documentation and tutorials according to the new
> > features and improvements
> >
> > 1 week
> >
> >
> >
> > The expression mechanism could be a time sink. I'd suggest making it
> > one of those 'try to fit it in' tasks, unless you're really interested in
> > it. I'd say the same for changing how colors are persisted, since it's not
> > been an issue up to this point.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I'd also suggest changing the description of 'main goal' of the project
> > to something about 'adding functionality and usability improvements to
> > Chainsaw'.
> >
> >
> >
> > Hope this helps - let me know what you think.
> >
>
> Yes why not, as you are the main designers of Chainsaw. Thanks a lot...
>
> One more thing.. I think the mentors also have to register and there is
> some sort of a voting going on when selecting the proposals in Apache, isn't
> it? So please pay your attention on that..
>
> Thanks,
> ~Isuru
>
> Scott Deboy
> > *Principal Engineer**
> > COMOTIV** SYSTEMS**
> > **111 SW Columbia Street Ste. 950**
> > Portland, OR 97201
> > Office: 503.224.7496
> > Direct Line: 503.821.6482
> > Cell: 503.997.1367
> > Fax: 503.222.0185
> > sdeboy@comotivsystems.com
> > ** www.comotivsystems.com*
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > *From:* Isuru Suriarachchi [mailto:isurues@gmail.com]
> > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 21, 2007 4:49 AM
> > *To:* Log4J Developers List
> > *Subject:* Re: Tailing capability for VFS log Receiver in Chainsaw
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Paul and Scott,
> >
> > I have completed the proposal and posted it at,
> >
> > http://wiki.apache.org/general/IsuruSuriarachchi/2007GSoCProposal/EnhancingChainsaw
> >
> >
> > Please go through the proposal and check whether it is clear and
> > complete. If there are any issues, please tell me. Then I can edit it as I
> > haven't submitted the proposal yet.
> >
> > GSoC program time line is available at,
> >
> > http://code.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=60325&topic=10729
> >
> > Check whether my project plan is OK with the above time line. If the
> > tasks I have specified will take more time or if there is any other issue,
> > please tell. Then I can reduce the tasks in the proposal and concentrate on
> > them if I will have enough time at the end. Think the schedule can be
> > negotiated and adjusted accordingly as the project goes on. ;-)
> >
> > Thanks,
> > ~Isuru
> >
>
>
Re: Tailing capability for VFS log Receiver in Chainsaw
Posted by Isuru Suriarachchi <is...@gmail.com>.
Hi Scott and Paul,
Please put this project on the apache wiki at...
http://wiki.apache.org/general/SummerOfCode2007
Because I think it should be there before the deadline (26th of March) to be
considered in the vote.
Thanks,
~Isuru
On 3/22/07, Isuru Suriarachchi <is...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Scott,
>
> I changed the proposal according to your suggestions and now I feel lot
> more comfortable as it is exactly under your recommendation. :-)
>
> On 3/22/07, Scott Deboy <sd...@comotivsystems.com> wrote:
> >
> > Looks good…here are some changes I'd suggest (requesting new features
> > along the way):
> >
> >
> >
> > I'd suggest you work on things in this order:
> >
> >
> >
> > - Implement tailing capability in the VFS log viewer
> >
> > 2 weeks
> >
> >
> >
> > - Add ability to remember filter expressions and search expressions
> > between Chainsaw restarts
> >
> > 2 weeks
> >
> >
> >
> > - (NEW) add goto-line feature with keyboard shortcut
> >
> > 5 days
> >
>
> - got a week
>
> - (NEW) add ability to hide/show welcome and drag & drop tabs and remember
> > that setting between restarts
> >
> > 5 days
> >
>
> - got a week
>
> - (NEW) maintain selected line when applying a filter if the selected line
> > passes the filter expression
> >
> > 5 days
> >
>
> - got a week
>
> - Improve the receiver creation panel and ability to change receiver
> > configurations in runtime
> >
> > 2 weeks
> >
> >
> >
> > - Improve the Chainsaw documentation and tutorials according to the new
> > features and improvements
> >
> > 1 week
> >
> >
> >
> > The expression mechanism could be a time sink. I'd suggest making it
> > one of those 'try to fit it in' tasks, unless you're really interested in
> > it. I'd say the same for changing how colors are persisted, since it's not
> > been an issue up to this point.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I'd also suggest changing the description of 'main goal' of the project
> > to something about 'adding functionality and usability improvements to
> > Chainsaw'.
> >
> >
> >
> > Hope this helps – let me know what you think.
> >
>
> Yes why not, as you are the main designers of Chainsaw. Thanks a lot...
>
> One more thing.. I think the mentors also have to register and there is
> some sort of a voting going on when selecting the proposals in Apache, isn't
> it? So please pay your attention on that..
>
> Thanks,
> ~Isuru
>
> Scott Deboy
> > *Principal Engineer**
> > COMOTIV** SYSTEMS**
> > **111 SW Columbia Street Ste. 950**
> > Portland, OR 97201
> > Office: 503.224.7496
> > Direct Line: 503.821.6482
> > Cell: 503.997.1367
> > Fax: 503.222.0185
> > sdeboy@comotivsystems.com
> > ** www.comotivsystems.com*
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > *From:* Isuru Suriarachchi [mailto:isurues@gmail.com]
> > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 21, 2007 4:49 AM
> > *To:* Log4J Developers List
> > *Subject:* Re: Tailing capability for VFS log Receiver in Chainsaw
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Paul and Scott,
> >
> > I have completed the proposal and posted it at,
> >
> > http://wiki.apache.org/general/IsuruSuriarachchi/2007GSoCProposal/EnhancingChainsaw
> >
> >
> > Please go through the proposal and check whether it is clear and
> > complete. If there are any issues, please tell me. Then I can edit it as I
> > haven't submitted the proposal yet.
> >
> > GSoC program time line is available at,
> >
> > http://code.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=60325&topic=10729
> >
> > Check whether my project plan is OK with the above time line. If the
> > tasks I have specified will take more time or if there is any other issue,
> > please tell. Then I can reduce the tasks in the proposal and concentrate on
> > them if I will have enough time at the end. Think the schedule can be
> > negotiated and adjusted accordingly as the project goes on. ;-)
> >
> > Thanks,
> > ~Isuru
> >
>
>
Re: Tailing capability for VFS log Receiver in Chainsaw
Posted by Isuru Suriarachchi <is...@gmail.com>.
Hi Scott,
I changed the proposal according to your suggestions and now I feel lot more
comfortable as it is exactly under your recommendation. :-)
On 3/22/07, Scott Deboy <sd...@comotivsystems.com> wrote:
>
> Looks good…here are some changes I'd suggest (requesting new features
> along the way):
>
>
>
> I'd suggest you work on things in this order:
>
>
>
> - Implement tailing capability in the VFS log viewer
>
> 2 weeks
>
>
>
> - Add ability to remember filter expressions and search expressions
> between Chainsaw restarts
>
> 2 weeks
>
>
>
> - (NEW) add goto-line feature with keyboard shortcut
>
> 5 days
>
- got a week
- (NEW) add ability to hide/show welcome and drag & drop tabs and remember
> that setting between restarts
>
> 5 days
>
- got a week
- (NEW) maintain selected line when applying a filter if the selected line
> passes the filter expression
>
> 5 days
>
- got a week
- Improve the receiver creation panel and ability to change receiver
> configurations in runtime
>
> 2 weeks
>
>
>
> - Improve the Chainsaw documentation and tutorials according to the new
> features and improvements
>
> 1 week
>
>
>
> The expression mechanism could be a time sink. I'd suggest making it one
> of those 'try to fit it in' tasks, unless you're really interested in it.
> I'd say the same for changing how colors are persisted, since it's not been
> an issue up to this point.
>
>
>
>
>
> I'd also suggest changing the description of 'main goal' of the project to
> something about 'adding functionality and usability improvements to
> Chainsaw'.
>
>
>
> Hope this helps – let me know what you think.
>
Yes why not, as you are the main designers of Chainsaw. Thanks a lot...
One more thing.. I think the mentors also have to register and there is some
sort of a voting going on when selecting the proposals in Apache, isn't it?
So please pay your attention on that..
Thanks,
~Isuru
Scott Deboy
> *Principal Engineer**
> COMOTIV** SYSTEMS**
> **111 SW Columbia Street Ste. 950**
> Portland, OR 97201
> Office: 503.224.7496
> Direct Line: 503.821.6482
> Cell: 503.997.1367
> Fax: 503.222.0185
> sdeboy@comotivsystems.com
> **www.comotivsystems.com*
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* Isuru Suriarachchi [mailto:isurues@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 21, 2007 4:49 AM
> *To:* Log4J Developers List
> *Subject:* Re: Tailing capability for VFS log Receiver in Chainsaw
>
>
>
> Hi Paul and Scott,
>
> I have completed the proposal and posted it at,
>
>
> http://wiki.apache.org/general/IsuruSuriarachchi/2007GSoCProposal/EnhancingChainsaw
>
> Please go through the proposal and check whether it is clear and complete.
> If there are any issues, please tell me. Then I can edit it as I haven't
> submitted the proposal yet.
>
> GSoC program time line is available at,
>
> http://code.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=60325&topic=10729
>
> Check whether my project plan is OK with the above time line. If the tasks
> I have specified will take more time or if there is any other issue, please
> tell. Then I can reduce the tasks in the proposal and concentrate on them if
> I will have enough time at the end. Think the schedule can be negotiated and
> adjusted accordingly as the project goes on. ;-)
>
> Thanks,
> ~Isuru
>
RE: Tailing capability for VFS log Receiver in Chainsaw
Posted by Scott Deboy <sd...@comotivsystems.com>.
Looks good...here are some changes I'd suggest (requesting new features
along the way):
I'd suggest you work on things in this order:
- Implement tailing capability in the VFS log viewer
2 weeks
- Add ability to remember filter expressions and search expressions
between Chainsaw restarts
2 weeks
- (NEW) add goto-line feature with keyboard shortcut
5 days
- (NEW) add ability to hide/show welcome and drag & drop tabs and
remember that setting between restarts
5 days
- (NEW) maintain selected line when applying a filter if the selected
line passes the filter expression
5 days
- Improve the receiver creation panel and ability to change receiver
configurations in runtime
2 weeks
- Improve the Chainsaw documentation and tutorials according to the new
features and improvements
1 week
The expression mechanism could be a time sink. I'd suggest making it
one of those 'try to fit it in' tasks, unless you're really interested
in it. I'd say the same for changing how colors are persisted, since
it's not been an issue up to this point.
I'd also suggest changing the description of 'main goal' of the project
to something about 'adding functionality and usability improvements to
Chainsaw'.
Hope this helps - let me know what you think.
Scott Deboy
Principal Engineer
COMOTIV SYSTEMS
111 SW Columbia Street Ste. 950
Portland, OR 97201
Office: 503.224.7496
Direct Line: 503.821.6482
Cell: 503.997.1367
Fax: 503.222.0185
sdeboy@comotivsystems.com
www.comotivsystems.com <http://www.comotivsystems.com/>
________________________________
From: Isuru Suriarachchi [mailto:isurues@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 4:49 AM
To: Log4J Developers List
Subject: Re: Tailing capability for VFS log Receiver in Chainsaw
Hi Paul and Scott,
I have completed the proposal and posted it at,
http://wiki.apache.org/general/IsuruSuriarachchi/2007GSoCProposal/Enhanc
ingChainsaw
Please go through the proposal and check whether it is clear and
complete. If there are any issues, please tell me. Then I can edit it as
I haven't submitted the proposal yet.
GSoC program time line is available at,
http://code.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=60325&topic=10729
Check whether my project plan is OK with the above time line. If the
tasks I have specified will take more time or if there is any other
issue, please tell. Then I can reduce the tasks in the proposal and
concentrate on them if I will have enough time at the end. Think the
schedule can be negotiated and adjusted accordingly as the project goes
on. ;-)
Thanks,
~Isuru
Re: Tailing capability for VFS log Receiver in Chainsaw
Posted by Isuru Suriarachchi <is...@gmail.com>.
Hi Paul and Scott,
I have completed the proposal and posted it at,
http://wiki.apache.org/general/IsuruSuriarachchi/2007GSoCProposal/EnhancingChainsaw
Please go through the proposal and check whether it is clear and complete.
If there are any issues, please tell me. Then I can edit it as I haven't
submitted the proposal yet.
GSoC program time line is available at,
http://code.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=60325&topic=10729
Check whether my project plan is OK with the above time line. If the tasks I
have specified will take more time or if there is any other issue, please
tell. Then I can reduce the tasks in the proposal and concentrate on them if
I will have enough time at the end. Think the schedule can be negotiated and
adjusted accordingly as the project goes on. ;-)
Thanks,
~Isuru
RE: Tailing capability for VFS log Receiver in Chainsaw
Posted by Scott Deboy <sd...@comotivsystems.com>.
Re: receiver creation panel:
- You can't save a configuration created by the receiver creation
panel
- A name should be required (otherwise you can't manage it)
- The UI is a bit awkward to use
Also, functionality is king, but making it look a little better would be
nice (that goes for the whole app, not just the receiver panel).
Also, the ability to hide or show (and remember on restart) zeroconf,
drag & drop and welcome tabs would be nice (we can hide & show the
welcome tab now, but I don't think it's remembered on restart).
Scott Deboy
Principal Engineer
COMOTIV SYSTEMS
111 SW Columbia Street Ste. 950
Portland, OR 97201
Office: 503.224.7496
Direct Line: 503.821.6482
Cell: 503.997.1367
Fax: 503.222.0185
sdeboy@comotivsystems.com <ma...@comotivsystems.com>
www.comotivsystems.com <http://www.comotivsystems.com/>
________________________________
From: Isuru Suriarachchi [mailto:isurues@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 5:45 AM
To: Log4J Developers List
Subject: Re: Tailing capability for VFS log Receiver in Chainsaw
Hi Scott,
First of all thanks for your ideas. I was having this question for a
while..
On 3/20/07, Scott Deboy < sdeboy@comotivsystems.com
<ma...@comotivsystems.com> > wrote:
Hi Isuru,
You're right, it definitely wouldn't take 2 to 3 months to implement
tailing in the receiver.
If you'd like to work on Chainsaw itself, I can think of a number of
enhancements which would improve its usefulness. Here are a few (not
in any order):
Yes I don't mind working on Chainsaw itself. Then I can use the project
topic as "Enhancing Chainsaw" and include all the improvements in the
proposal.
- Add ability to change receiver configurations while Chainsaw
is running
- Improve the receiver creation panel
Can you mention the improvements in the receiver creation panel?
- Add ability to define custom expression logpanels which are
always created when Chainsaw is started
- Add ability to remember (and clear) filter expressions and
search expressions between Chainsaw restarts (for each logpanel)
- Improve Chainsaw performance (memory use)
- Improve the expression mechanism (used in search, colorizing
and filtering) to not require spaces between operators and operands
- Change the color preference persistence to use XStream insted
of storing serialized Java objects
I'll write my proposal with all these improvements and send you a link.
Then you can propose any changes needed or extra points to add..
Thanks,
~Isuru
Scott Deboy
COMOTIV SYSTEMS
111 SW Columbia Street Ste. 950
Portland, OR 97201
Telephone: 503.224.7496
Cell: 503.997.1367
Fax: 503.222.0185
sdeboy@comotivsystems.com
www.comotivsystems.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Isuru Suriarachchi [mailto:isurues@gmail.com ]
Sent: Tue 3/20/2007 4:53 AM
To: Log4J Developers List
Subject: Tailing capability for VFS log Receiver in Chainsaw
Hi Paul and Scott,
I'm was talking about implementing tailing capability in the VFS
log
Receiver as a GSoC project. I went through the documentations
and tried the
samples in Chainsaw. And also I looked at the implementation in
VFSLogFilePatternReceiver using commons-vfs.
Currently I'm working on writing the proposal for the project.
It should
contain the following topics.
Synopsis
Deliverables
Project Details
Project Plan
and some details about my self
I have come up with some doubts. Can you tell me the exact scope
of the
project with all the functionality required from this tailing
capability, as
I should mention it in the proposal. I wonder whether this is
enough for
GSoC. (This can be due to my less understanding on the project.
correct me
if it is the case) Because the time period is about 2-3 months.
If you can send me some sort of a detailed description with the
exact scope
of the project considering the time period of the project it
will help me a
lot to write the proposal clearly. Please consider the above
topics which
should be included in the proposal.
thanks,
~Isuru
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Re: Tailing capability for VFS log Receiver in Chainsaw
Posted by Isuru Suriarachchi <is...@gmail.com>.
Hi Scott,
First of all thanks for your ideas. I was having this question for a while..
On 3/20/07, Scott Deboy <sd...@comotivsystems.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Isuru,
>
> You're right, it definitely wouldn't take 2 to 3 months to implement
> tailing in the receiver.
>
> If you'd like to work on Chainsaw itself, I can think of a number of
> enhancements which would improve its usefulness. Here are a few (not in
> any order):
Yes I don't mind working on Chainsaw itself. Then I can use the project
topic as "Enhancing Chainsaw" and include all the improvements in the
proposal.
- Add ability to change receiver configurations while Chainsaw is running
> - Improve the receiver creation panel
Can you mention the improvements in the receiver creation panel?
- Add ability to define custom expression logpanels which are always created
> when Chainsaw is started
> - Add ability to remember (and clear) filter expressions and search
> expressions between Chainsaw restarts (for each logpanel)
> - Improve Chainsaw performance (memory use)
> - Improve the expression mechanism (used in search, colorizing and
> filtering) to not require spaces between operators and operands
> - Change the color preference persistence to use XStream insted of storing
> serialized Java objects
I'll write my proposal with all these improvements and send you a link.
Then you can propose any changes needed or extra points to add..
Thanks,
~Isuru
Scott Deboy
> COMOTIV SYSTEMS
> 111 SW Columbia Street Ste. 950
> Portland, OR 97201
>
> Telephone: 503.224.7496
> Cell: 503.997.1367
> Fax: 503.222.0185
>
> sdeboy@comotivsystems.com
>
> www.comotivsystems.com
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Isuru Suriarachchi [mailto:isurues@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tue 3/20/2007 4:53 AM
> To: Log4J Developers List
> Subject: Tailing capability for VFS log Receiver in Chainsaw
>
> Hi Paul and Scott,
>
> I'm was talking about implementing tailing capability in the VFS log
> Receiver as a GSoC project. I went through the documentations and tried
> the
> samples in Chainsaw. And also I looked at the implementation in
> VFSLogFilePatternReceiver using commons-vfs.
>
> Currently I'm working on writing the proposal for the project. It should
> contain the following topics.
>
> Synopsis
> Deliverables
> Project Details
> Project Plan
> and some details about my self
>
> I have come up with some doubts. Can you tell me the exact scope of the
> project with all the functionality required from this tailing capability,
> as
> I should mention it in the proposal. I wonder whether this is enough for
> GSoC. (This can be due to my less understanding on the project. correct me
> if it is the case) Because the time period is about 2-3 months.
>
> If you can send me some sort of a detailed description with the exact
> scope
> of the project considering the time period of the project it will help me
> a
> lot to write the proposal clearly. Please consider the above topics which
> should be included in the proposal.
>
> thanks,
> ~Isuru
>
>
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RE: Tailing capability for VFS log Receiver in Chainsaw
Posted by Scott Deboy <sd...@comotivsystems.com>.
Hi Isuru,
You're right, it definitely wouldn't take 2 to 3 months to implement tailing in the receiver.
If you'd like to work on Chainsaw itself, I can think of a number of enhancements which would improve its usefulness. Here are a few (not in any order):
- Add ability to change receiver configurations while Chainsaw is running
- Improve the receiver creation panel
- Add ability to define custom expression logpanels which are always created when Chainsaw is started
- Add ability to remember (and clear) filter expressions and search expressions between Chainsaw restarts (for each logpanel)
- Improve Chainsaw performance (memory use)
- Improve the expression mechanism (used in search, colorizing and filtering) to not require spaces between operators and operands
- Change the color preference persistence to use XStream insted of storing serialized Java objects
Scott Deboy
COMOTIV SYSTEMS
111 SW Columbia Street Ste. 950
Portland, OR 97201
Telephone: 503.224.7496
Cell: 503.997.1367
Fax: 503.222.0185
sdeboy@comotivsystems.com
www.comotivsystems.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Isuru Suriarachchi [mailto:isurues@gmail.com]
Sent: Tue 3/20/2007 4:53 AM
To: Log4J Developers List
Subject: Tailing capability for VFS log Receiver in Chainsaw
Hi Paul and Scott,
I'm was talking about implementing tailing capability in the VFS log
Receiver as a GSoC project. I went through the documentations and tried the
samples in Chainsaw. And also I looked at the implementation in
VFSLogFilePatternReceiver using commons-vfs.
Currently I'm working on writing the proposal for the project. It should
contain the following topics.
Synopsis
Deliverables
Project Details
Project Plan
and some details about my self
I have come up with some doubts. Can you tell me the exact scope of the
project with all the functionality required from this tailing capability, as
I should mention it in the proposal. I wonder whether this is enough for
GSoC. (This can be due to my less understanding on the project. correct me
if it is the case) Because the time period is about 2-3 months.
If you can send me some sort of a detailed description with the exact scope
of the project considering the time period of the project it will help me a
lot to write the proposal clearly. Please consider the above topics which
should be included in the proposal.
thanks,
~Isuru