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Posted to user@velocity.apache.org by Emyr James <em...@OrbisUK.com> on 2002/10/24 16:59:39 UTC
Challenge to J.R
I challenge J.R to post a message to the velocity-USERS list that describes
a useful, positive way of using the velocity template engine, and that does
not mention Freemaker at all.
I really resent receiving posts to this mailing list that have nothing
whatsoever to do with using velocity, but are about a mysterious thing
called Freemaker that I really couldn't give a f*ck for.
If you want to go on about how much better Freemaker is than velocity
please do it elsewhere.
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Re: Challenge to J.R
Posted by "Geir Magnusson Jr." <ge...@optonline.net>.
Can we please just stop this? This whole thing has gone on long enough. I
think we have exhausted this subject far beyond even my most cynical
expectations.
Please.
geir
On 10/24/02 11:05 AM, "Emyr James" <em...@OrbisUK.com> wrote:
> Incidentally, a few months ago JR was off on one when someone accused him
> of not writing Freewanker. He agreed to never bother the velocity-users
> list if he received an apology. That apology was posted and he promised to
> go away.
> WHY ARE YOU BACK?????
> ARGGHHHHHH!!!!!!
>
> At 15:59 24/10/2002 +0100, you wrote:
>> I challenge J.R to post a message to the velocity-USERS list that
>> describes a useful, positive way of using the velocity template engine,
>> and that does not mention Freemaker at all.
>> I really resent receiving posts to this mailing list that have nothing
>> whatsoever to do with using velocity, but are about a mysterious thing
>> called Freemaker that I really couldn't give a f*ck for.
>> If you want to go on about how much better Freemaker is than velocity
>> please do it elsewhere.
>>
>>
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Re: Challenge to J.R
Posted by Emyr James <em...@OrbisUK.com>.
Incidentally, a few months ago JR was off on one when someone accused him
of not writing Freewanker. He agreed to never bother the velocity-users
list if he received an apology. That apology was posted and he promised to
go away.
WHY ARE YOU BACK?????
ARGGHHHHHH!!!!!!
At 15:59 24/10/2002 +0100, you wrote:
>I challenge J.R to post a message to the velocity-USERS list that
>describes a useful, positive way of using the velocity template engine,
>and that does not mention Freemaker at all.
>I really resent receiving posts to this mailing list that have nothing
>whatsoever to do with using velocity, but are about a mysterious thing
>called Freemaker that I really couldn't give a f*ck for.
>If you want to go on about how much better Freemaker is than velocity
>please do it elsewhere.
>
>
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#End thread(s).
Posted by Matthew Chapman <mc...@franchise.com>.
I am a Velocity user, hence I am on the "Velocity Users List".
I am not a contributer of code, and I rarely use the service - HOWEVER I
do read the emails as many legitimate questions I have, are answered in
the forum. If you want to have non-technical and flaming discussions about
anything, please take them offline.
If this idiotic thread is to continue, you will find yourself with one
less user on this list - not a big deal perhaps, but it leaves a bitter
taste in my mouth, and all those I will talk to.
Let us refrain from slapping each other around, all the while measuring
you manhood by how childish you can make an argument.
let us now _please_ move on.
regards
Matthew Chapman
eMail: mchapman@franchise.com
Phone: 760-943-0080 x 1159
ICQ #: 5428662
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Re: Challenge to J.R
Posted by Emyr James <em...@OrbisUK.com>.
I'm a user.
If I wanted to contribute code or discuss the merits of the engine itself
I'd post on the velocity developers list.
At 17:38 24/10/2002 +0200, you wrote:
>Emyr James wrote:
>
>>I challenge J.R to post a message to the velocity-USERS list that
>>describes a useful, positive way of using the velocity template engine,
>>and that does not mention Freemaker at all.
>
>
>Emyr,
>
>It's easy to challenge other people. Why don't you challenge yourself
>first? Why don't you write something that is useful to other people?
>
>I have quickly scanned all the messages from the last couple of weeks and
>I can't find any useful contribution that you have made.
>
>>
>>I really resent receiving posts to this mailing list that have nothing
>>whatsoever to do with using velocity, but are about a mysterious thing
>>called Freemaker that I really couldn't give a f*ck for.
>
>
>Any given thing that I write, whether it mentions Freemarker or not, will
>be of interest to some people and not to others.
>
>>
>>If you want to go on about how much better Freemaker is than velocity
>>please do it elsewhere.
>
>
>Why don't you guys respond proactively by making Velocity better? I bet
>that you, Emyr, have never contributed a single line of code to the project.
>
>
>Jonathan Revusky
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RE: Challenge to J.R
Posted by Paulo Gaspar <pa...@krankikom.de>.
+1
Please move this discussions with J.R. to private mail if you
really need to add something. This is going for too long.
Have fun,
Paulo Gaspar
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:geirm@optonline.net]
> Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 9:40 PM
> To: velocity-user@jakarta.apache.org; jon@revusky.com
> Subject: Re: Challenge to J.R
>
>
> On 10/24/02 3:36 PM, "Guido Sohne" <gu...@sohne.net> wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 05:38:31PM +0200, Jonathan Revusky wrote:
> >> It's easy to challenge other people. Why don't you challenge yourself
> >> first? Why don't you write something that is useful to other people?
> >
> > Umm, why don't you go and find something more productive
> > to do than sending junk to this list and causing so much
> > off topic garbage ? I'm tired of reading your stuff because
> > there's nothing about Velocity in it and that's what I
> > read this list for.
> >
> > As I see it, the present challenge is how to get rid of
> > messages from you ...
> >
> >> I have quickly scanned all the messages from the last couple of weeks
> >> and I can't find any useful contribution that you have made.
> >
> > As if you have made any useful contributions yourself in
> > the last few weeks. Quite the contrary, things have gone
> > from interesting threads to bozo land.
> >
> > This is no longer a thread, it is a flame war and a waste
> > of time. I think it's time to put mailing list filters in
> > place.
> >
>
> Please stop this thread. It will just continue on and on and on.
> Jonathan
> should be allowed to respond as I think that's fair, but I hope
> he will also
> not and just let this stop.
>
> So please - everyone. Lets just stop this and get back to discussion of
> Velocity.
>
> geir
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Re: Challenge to J.R
Posted by "Geir Magnusson Jr." <ge...@optonline.net>.
On 10/24/02 3:36 PM, "Guido Sohne" <gu...@sohne.net> wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 05:38:31PM +0200, Jonathan Revusky wrote:
>> It's easy to challenge other people. Why don't you challenge yourself
>> first? Why don't you write something that is useful to other people?
>
> Umm, why don't you go and find something more productive
> to do than sending junk to this list and causing so much
> off topic garbage ? I'm tired of reading your stuff because
> there's nothing about Velocity in it and that's what I
> read this list for.
>
> As I see it, the present challenge is how to get rid of
> messages from you ...
>
>> I have quickly scanned all the messages from the last couple of weeks
>> and I can't find any useful contribution that you have made.
>
> As if you have made any useful contributions yourself in
> the last few weeks. Quite the contrary, things have gone
> from interesting threads to bozo land.
>
> This is no longer a thread, it is a flame war and a waste
> of time. I think it's time to put mailing list filters in
> place.
>
Please stop this thread. It will just continue on and on and on. Jonathan
should be allowed to respond as I think that's fair, but I hope he will also
not and just let this stop.
So please - everyone. Lets just stop this and get back to discussion of
Velocity.
geir
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Re: Challenge to J.R
Posted by Guido Sohne <gu...@sohne.net>.
On Thu, Oct 24, 2002 at 05:38:31PM +0200, Jonathan Revusky wrote:
> It's easy to challenge other people. Why don't you challenge yourself
> first? Why don't you write something that is useful to other people?
Umm, why don't you go and find something more productive
to do than sending junk to this list and causing so much
off topic garbage ? I'm tired of reading your stuff because
there's nothing about Velocity in it and that's what I
read this list for.
As I see it, the present challenge is how to get rid of
messages from you ...
> I have quickly scanned all the messages from the last couple of weeks
> and I can't find any useful contribution that you have made.
As if you have made any useful contributions yourself in
the last few weeks. Quite the contrary, things have gone
from interesting threads to bozo land.
This is no longer a thread, it is a flame war and a waste
of time. I think it's time to put mailing list filters in
place.
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translated as `all life is suffering,' is more accurately
rendered `life is filled with a sense of pervasive
unsatisfactoriness.'
-- M.D. Epstein
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Re: Challenge to J.R
Posted by Jonathan Revusky <jr...@terra.es>.
Emyr James wrote:
> I challenge J.R to post a message to the velocity-USERS list that
> describes a useful, positive way of using the velocity template
> engine, and that does not mention Freemaker at all.
Emyr,
It's easy to challenge other people. Why don't you challenge yourself
first? Why don't you write something that is useful to other people?
I have quickly scanned all the messages from the last couple of weeks
and I can't find any useful contribution that you have made.
>
> I really resent receiving posts to this mailing list that have nothing
> whatsoever to do with using velocity, but are about a mysterious thing
> called Freemaker that I really couldn't give a f*ck for.
Any given thing that I write, whether it mentions Freemarker or not,
will be of interest to some people and not to others.
>
> If you want to go on about how much better Freemaker is than velocity
> please do it elsewhere.
Why don't you guys respond proactively by making Velocity better? I bet
that you, Emyr, have never contributed a single line of code to the project.
Jonathan Revusky
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FreeMarker 2.1 is out! http://freemarker.sourceforge.net/
FreeMarker-Velocity comparison doc
http://freemarker.sourceforge.net/fmVsVel.html
Velocity->FreeMarker template conversion utility
http://freemarker.sourceforge.net/usCavalry.html
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