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Posted to users@spamassassin.apache.org by Antonio Leding <de...@leding.net> on 2012/02/03 20:53:12 UTC
ACL vs. TRANSPORT styles
Hello SpamAssassin users,
Does anyone out there have any information regarding two purported "styles" for SpamAssassin operation - ACL and TRANSPORT?
I was recently made aware of this distinction but after searching for a couple days, I am unable to find any further details nor any documentation discussing this topic let alone these two different styles.
Thanks in advance for any feedback...
Re: ACL vs. TRANSPORT styles
Posted by Michael Scheidell <mi...@secnap.com>.
On 2/3/12 2:53 PM, Antonio Leding wrote:
> Does anyone out there have any information regarding two purported "styles" for SpamAssassin operation - ACL and TRANSPORT?
>
> I was recently made aware of this distinction but after searching for a couple days, I am unable to find any further details nor any documentation discussing this topic let alone these two different styles.
>
You did not get any information via searcher, most likely because
someone made those "styles" up for their own marketing purposes.
There is a third style, and it is actually the most accurate style.. it
is the MIB style (no, not snmp, MIB, MIKE IN a BOX).
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Re: ACL vs. TRANSPORT styles
Posted by Antonio Leding <de...@leding.net>.
Folks - please disregard my earlier message re: Exim vs. SA doing the scanning - I read a bit further and found my answers…
On Feb 3, 2012, at 6:44 PM, Antonio Leding wrote:
> Hi Mark,
>
> GREAT FIND - thx man. So let me ask, based on reading about Exim just now, it seems that Exim and SpamAssassin work in tandem. The former is the actual email engine and then SpamAssassin does what it does best - flag messages that are determined to be SPAM. So if that is true, I would think that SpamAssassin could do the scanning rather than having Exim of that piece. Maybe I'm wrong but I'm sure one of your experts will know for sure.
>
>
>
>
> On Feb 3, 2012, at 6:24 PM, Mark Martinec wrote:
>
>> Antonio,
>>
>>> Hi Mark - you guessed…
>>> So SpamAssassin was working great - still does actually - except that for
>>> some reason, about 2 weeks ago, the subject line rewrite stopped working.
>>> I then embarked on a journey to figure out why. Here's what I've
>>> learned\been told thus far:
>>>
>>> 1) This change was made by the cPanel folks - the hosting guys had no role
>>> in this 2) cPanel says it was done to implement the "faster" ACL-style
>>> SpamAssassin 3) While the subject-line rewrite feature still exists and
>>> works fine, it is not compatible with cPanel's mgmt of the ACL-style
>>> SpamAssassin 4) No other technical reasoning has been given as to why,
>>> how, etc…
>>>
>>> So I now I am here trying to figure out the real-deal. Does ACL and \or
>>> TRANSPORT really exists? Seems no based on what Michael said earlier.
>>> And then Mark, you've found the same cPanel documentation I found
>>> yesterday outlining at least part of what I state above.
>>>
>>> Anyone got any further thoughts on this? Is this all just BS?
>>
>>
>>> Does ACL and or TRANSPORT really exists?
>>
>> Looks like Exim terminology:
>>
>> http://www.exim.org/exim-html-current/doc/html/spec_html/ch41.html
>>
>>
>> Mark
>
Re: ACL vs. TRANSPORT styles
Posted by Antonio Leding <de...@leding.net>.
Hi Mark,
GREAT FIND - thx man. So let me ask, based on reading about Exim just now, it seems that Exim and SpamAssassin work in tandem. The former is the actual email engine and then SpamAssassin does what it does best - flag messages that are determined to be SPAM. So if that is true, I would think that SpamAssassin could do the scanning rather than having Exim of that piece. Maybe I'm wrong but I'm sure one of your experts will know for sure.
On Feb 3, 2012, at 6:24 PM, Mark Martinec wrote:
> Antonio,
>
>> Hi Mark - you guessed…
>> So SpamAssassin was working great - still does actually - except that for
>> some reason, about 2 weeks ago, the subject line rewrite stopped working.
>> I then embarked on a journey to figure out why. Here's what I've
>> learned\been told thus far:
>>
>> 1) This change was made by the cPanel folks - the hosting guys had no role
>> in this 2) cPanel says it was done to implement the "faster" ACL-style
>> SpamAssassin 3) While the subject-line rewrite feature still exists and
>> works fine, it is not compatible with cPanel's mgmt of the ACL-style
>> SpamAssassin 4) No other technical reasoning has been given as to why,
>> how, etc…
>>
>> So I now I am here trying to figure out the real-deal. Does ACL and \or
>> TRANSPORT really exists? Seems no based on what Michael said earlier.
>> And then Mark, you've found the same cPanel documentation I found
>> yesterday outlining at least part of what I state above.
>>
>> Anyone got any further thoughts on this? Is this all just BS?
>
>
>> Does ACL and or TRANSPORT really exists?
>
> Looks like Exim terminology:
>
> http://www.exim.org/exim-html-current/doc/html/spec_html/ch41.html
>
>
> Mark
Re: ACL vs. TRANSPORT styles
Posted by Mark Martinec <Ma...@ijs.si>.
Antonio,
> Hi Mark - you guessed…
> So SpamAssassin was working great - still does actually - except that for
> some reason, about 2 weeks ago, the subject line rewrite stopped working.
> I then embarked on a journey to figure out why. Here's what I've
> learned\been told thus far:
>
> 1) This change was made by the cPanel folks - the hosting guys had no role
> in this 2) cPanel says it was done to implement the "faster" ACL-style
> SpamAssassin 3) While the subject-line rewrite feature still exists and
> works fine, it is not compatible with cPanel's mgmt of the ACL-style
> SpamAssassin 4) No other technical reasoning has been given as to why,
> how, etc…
>
> So I now I am here trying to figure out the real-deal. Does ACL and \or
> TRANSPORT really exists? Seems no based on what Michael said earlier.
> And then Mark, you've found the same cPanel documentation I found
> yesterday outlining at least part of what I state above.
>
> Anyone got any further thoughts on this? Is this all just BS?
> Does ACL and or TRANSPORT really exists?
Looks like Exim terminology:
http://www.exim.org/exim-html-current/doc/html/spec_html/ch41.html
Mark
Re: ACL vs. TRANSPORT styles
Posted by Antonio Leding <de...@leding.net>.
Hi Mark - you guessed…
So SpamAssassin was working great - still does actually - except that for some reason, about 2 weeks ago, the subject line rewrite stopped working. I then embarked on a journey to figure out why. Here's what I've learned\been told thus far:
1) This change was made by the cPanel folks - the hosting guys had no role in this
2) cPanel says it was done to implement the "faster" ACL-style SpamAssassin
3) While the subject-line rewrite feature still exists and works fine, it is not compatible with cPanel's mgmt of the ACL-style SpamAssassin
4) No other technical reasoning has been given as to why, how, etc…
So I now I am here trying to figure out the real-deal. Does ACL and \or TRANSPORT really exists? Seems no based on what Michael said earlier. And then Mark, you've found the same cPanel documentation I found yesterday outlining at least part of what I state above.
Anyone got any further thoughts on this? Is this all just BS?
On Feb 3, 2012, at 12:12 PM, Mark Martinec wrote:
>> Hello SpamAssassin users,
>>
>> Does anyone out there have any information regarding two purported "styles"
>> for SpamAssassin operation - ACL and TRANSPORT?
>>
>> I was recently made aware of this distinction but after searching for a
>> couple days, I am unable to find any further details nor any documentation
>> discussing this topic let alone these two different styles.
>
> Is this referring to cPanel & WHM, or Exim, or what?
> See:
> http://docs.cpanel.net/twiki/bin/view/AllDocumentation/WHMDocs/SpamAssassin
>
>
> Mark
Re: ACL vs. TRANSPORT styles
Posted by Mark Martinec <Ma...@ijs.si>.
> Hello SpamAssassin users,
>
> Does anyone out there have any information regarding two purported "styles"
> for SpamAssassin operation - ACL and TRANSPORT?
>
> I was recently made aware of this distinction but after searching for a
> couple days, I am unable to find any further details nor any documentation
> discussing this topic let alone these two different styles.
Is this referring to cPanel & WHM, or Exim, or what?
See:
http://docs.cpanel.net/twiki/bin/view/AllDocumentation/WHMDocs/SpamAssassin
Mark