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Posted to dev@community.apache.org by Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo <th...@gmail.com> on 2013/12/10 02:58:34 UTC
Re: Question about Apache projects and Kickstarter-like campaigns
Hi!
The campaign has just been funded:
http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/a-month-of-apache-tapestry-5 :D
Thanks everybody for your comments and feedback! They really improved my
campaign and helped me getting it funded the right way. :)
Cheers!
--
Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo
Tapestry, Java and Hibernate consultant and developer
http://machina.com.br
Re: Question about Apache projects and Kickstarter-like campaigns
Posted by jan i <ja...@apache.org>.
On 10 December 2013 02:58, Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo
<th...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Hi!
>
> The campaign has just been funded: http://www.indiegogo.com/
> projects/a-month-of-apache-tapestry-5 :D
>
> Thanks everybody for your comments and feedback! They really improved my
> campaign and helped me getting it funded the right way. :)
>
> Cheers!
>
Congratualations, please lets hear how the story ends (after the month).
rgds
jan I.
>
> --
> Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo
> Tapestry, Java and Hibernate consultant and developer
> http://machina.com.br
>
Re: Fwd: Question about Apache projects and Kickstarter-like campaigns
Posted by jan i <ja...@apache.org>.
On 14 December 2013 23:07, Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org> wrote:
> On 10/12/2013 jan i wrote:
>
>> It seems crowdfunding is slowly becomming more accepted and funding is
>> possible for opensource projects.
>> Something to think about, if we want a bigger task done.
>>
>
> Indeed this is a good option. Of course, Apache does not pay for
> developers and doesn't accept targeted donations, so the way it can work
> for us is (exactly like the Apache Tapestry case) that an individual or a
> group asks for donations, outside the project, for a dedicated development
> task.
>
> Code will then have to pass the usual review and QA steps before it is
> accepted and released, so developers should mention that they cannot
> guarantee that the project will accept the code.
>
> And a standard disclaimer, from the dev@community thread, is:
> ---
> Disclaimer: This campaign is done by me, FOO, as an independent
> individual, not by the Apache Software Foundation nor the Apache OpenOffice
> project. I'm not representing the Foundation in any way in this campaign
> nor does Apache endorse it. The Foundation has a policy of not paying for
> development work. All its members are volunteers. Any code I'll write or
> change will pass the usual OpenOffice team approval process.
> ---
>
It is now on the web page as well, and infra pages link to it.
http://community.apache.org/committers/funding-disclaimer.html
We had a fun discussion about who has read/write access to those pages, but
that solved.
rgds
jan I.
> Raphael had announced a similar initiative on this list, but I don't know
> if the funding target has already been reached.
>
> Regards,
> Andrea.
>
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Re: Fwd: Question about Apache projects and Kickstarter-like campaigns
Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
On 10/12/2013 jan i wrote:
> It seems crowdfunding is slowly becomming more accepted and funding is
> possible for opensource projects.
> Something to think about, if we want a bigger task done.
Indeed this is a good option. Of course, Apache does not pay for
developers and doesn't accept targeted donations, so the way it can work
for us is (exactly like the Apache Tapestry case) that an individual or
a group asks for donations, outside the project, for a dedicated
development task.
Code will then have to pass the usual review and QA steps before it is
accepted and released, so developers should mention that they cannot
guarantee that the project will accept the code.
And a standard disclaimer, from the dev@community thread, is:
---
Disclaimer: This campaign is done by me, FOO, as an independent
individual, not by the Apache Software Foundation nor the Apache
OpenOffice project. I'm not representing the Foundation in any way in
this campaign nor does Apache endorse it. The Foundation has a policy of
not paying for development work. All its members are volunteers. Any
code I'll write or change will pass the usual OpenOffice team approval
process.
---
Raphael had announced a similar initiative on this list, but I don't
know if the funding target has already been reached.
Regards,
Andrea.
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Fwd: Question about Apache projects and Kickstarter-like campaigns
Posted by jan i <ja...@apache.org>.
Information to those that do not follow the community list.
It seems crowdfunding is slowly becomming more accepted and funding is
possible for opensource projects.
Something to think about, if we want a bigger task done.
rgds
jan I.
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From: Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo <th...@gmail.com>
Date: 10 December 2013 02:58
Subject: Re: Question about Apache projects and Kickstarter-like campaigns
To: "dev@community.apache.org" <de...@community.apache.org>
Hi!
The campaign has just been funded: http://www.indiegogo.com/
projects/a-month-of-apache-tapestry-5 :D
Thanks everybody for your comments and feedback! They really improved my
campaign and helped me getting it funded the right way. :)
Cheers!
--
Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo
Tapestry, Java and Hibernate consultant and developer
http://machina.com.br
Re: Question about Apache projects and Kickstarter-like campaigns
Posted by Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>.
On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 1:05 PM, jan i <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
> ...Not only members but also committers have default rw
> to the site...
Good! My hint was the right one then ;-)
>
> I will add the link to /dev and just to avoid any confusion about the
> document skeleton, it is at the moment merely an idea, which hopefully soon
> turns into a proposal.
Thanks.
-Bertrand
Re: Question about Apache projects and Kickstarter-like campaigns
Posted by jan i <ja...@apache.org>.
On 10 December 2013 12:49, Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 12:44 PM, jan i <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
> > ...My little hint did not work :-) I would like to help with the
> community
> > work, but when I search/browse through the site for "getting involved" it
> > all about becomming a committer. What did I miss ?...
>
> ah ok...I guess we should just grant all ASF members write access to
> the community website, as long as they let us know here what they're
> about we're fine.
>
> Can you confirm that you do not have write access to
> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/comdev/site/ ? If you don't we need to
> fix that IMO.
>
Hi again.
Sorry, my bad, I should have checked before writing (I guess I am just so
used to hit the wall), Not only members but also committers have default rw
to the site.
I will add the link to /dev and just to avoid any confusion about the
document skeleton, it is at the moment merely an idea, which hopefully soon
turns into a proposal.
thx for your time.
rgds
jan I.
>
> -Bertrand
>
Re: Question about Apache projects and Kickstarter-like campaigns
Posted by Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>.
On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 12:44 PM, jan i <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
> ...My little hint did not work :-) I would like to help with the community
> work, but when I search/browse through the site for "getting involved" it
> all about becomming a committer. What did I miss ?...
ah ok...I guess we should just grant all ASF members write access to
the community website, as long as they let us know here what they're
about we're fine.
Can you confirm that you do not have write access to
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/comdev/site/ ? If you don't we need to
fix that IMO.
-Bertrand
Re: Question about Apache projects and Kickstarter-like campaigns
Posted by jan i <ja...@apache.org>.
On 10 December 2013 12:37, Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 11:53 AM, jan i <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
> > On 10 December 2013 11:36, Bertrand Delacretaz <bdelacretaz@apache.org
> >wrote:
> >> ...do you want to add it to the http://community.apache.org/
> >> website under "for committers/PMCs"?
> >>
> >> I would like to do that, but I am not sure I have karma for the
> community
> > pages (I am just infra and aoo)...
>
> ok, ok ;-)
>
My little hint did not work :-) I would like to help with the community
work, but when I search/browse through the site for "getting involved" it
all about becomming a committer. What did I miss ?
> I have added it at
> http://community.apache.org/committers/funding-disclaimer.html , can
> you add the /dev link?
>
thx for adding it, it look nice, I will get the /dev link done. One of
infra-root (humbedooh) has made a new skeleton for documentation, and we
are right now moving documents.
have a nice day
jan I.
>
> -Bertrand
>
Re: Question about Apache projects and Kickstarter-like campaigns
Posted by Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>.
On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 11:53 AM, jan i <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
> On 10 December 2013 11:36, Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>wrote:
>> ...do you want to add it to the http://community.apache.org/
>> website under "for committers/PMCs"?
>>
>> I would like to do that, but I am not sure I have karma for the community
> pages (I am just infra and aoo)...
ok, ok ;-)
I have added it at
http://community.apache.org/committers/funding-disclaimer.html , can
you add the /dev link?
-Bertrand
Re: Question about Apache projects and Kickstarter-like campaigns
Posted by jan i <ja...@apache.org>.
On 10 December 2013 11:36, Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 11:31 AM, jan i <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
> > ...Since it seems more committers start to use this way (which I find
> ok),
> > maybe we should remove the project names and put it on a url with a link
> > from http://www.apache.org/dev/#committers ...
>
> good idea, do you want to add it to the http://community.apache.org/
> website under "for committers/PMCs"?
>
> I would like to do that, but I am not sure I have karma for the community
pages (I am just infra and aoo).
I am actually not quite sure how "community" works, its defined as a
project, but does not seem to have its own svn group or members.
rgds
jan I.
Link from /dev/#committers is a good idea as well.
>
thats easy.
>
> -Bertrand
>
Re: Question about Apache projects and Kickstarter-like campaigns
Posted by Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>.
On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 11:31 AM, jan i <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
> ...Since it seems more committers start to use this way (which I find ok),
> maybe we should remove the project names and put it on a url with a link
> from http://www.apache.org/dev/#committers ...
good idea, do you want to add it to the http://community.apache.org/
website under "for committers/PMCs"?
Link from /dev/#committers is a good idea as well.
-Bertrand
Re: Question about Apache projects and Kickstarter-like campaigns
Posted by jan i <ja...@apache.org>.
On 10 December 2013 11:12, Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 11:07 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
> <bd...@apache.org> wrote:
> > ...I like how you've phrased the disclaimers, makes things quite
> clear....
>
> Here's a copy of that BTW, can be useful to have it in our archives.
>
> > Disclaimers: This campaign is done by me, FOO, as an independent
> individual, not
> > by the Apache Software Foundation nor the Apache BAR project. I'm not
> representing
> > the Foundation in any way in this campaign nor does Apache endorse it.
> The
> > Foundation has a policy of not paying for development work. All its
> members are
> > voluntary, me included. Any code I'll write or change will pass the
> usual Tapestry
> > team approval process. If this campaign isn't funded, I'll continue
> participating
> > in the Tapestry project in the same way as always.
>
Since it seems more committers start to use this way (which I find ok),
maybe we should remove the project names and put it on a url with a link
from http://www.apache.org/dev/#committers
rgds
jan I.
>
> -Bertrand
>
Re: Question about Apache projects and Kickstarter-like campaigns
Posted by Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>.
On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 11:07 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
<bd...@apache.org> wrote:
> ...I like how you've phrased the disclaimers, makes things quite clear....
Here's a copy of that BTW, can be useful to have it in our archives.
> Disclaimers: This campaign is done by me, FOO, as an independent individual, not
> by the Apache Software Foundation nor the Apache BAR project. I'm not representing
> the Foundation in any way in this campaign nor does Apache endorse it. The
> Foundation has a policy of not paying for development work. All its members are
> voluntary, me included. Any code I'll write or change will pass the usual Tapestry
> team approval process. If this campaign isn't funded, I'll continue participating
> in the Tapestry project in the same way as always.
-Bertrand
Re: Question about Apache projects and Kickstarter-like campaigns
Posted by Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>.
Hi,
On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 2:58 AM, Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo
<th...@gmail.com> wrote:
> ...The campaign has just been funded:
> http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/a-month-of-apache-tapestry-5 :D ...
Congrats!
I like how you've phrased the disclaimers, makes things quite clear.
Too bad nobody signed up for the "You in my e-mail signature" perk ;-)
As Jan says, a blog post about the experiment and results would be cool.
-Bertrand