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Posted to dev@activemq.apache.org by Bruce Snyder <br...@gmail.com> on 2015/04/17 22:07:15 UTC
How to encourage more diversity on ActiveMQ
Clearly a discussion of this topic needs to be started. I proposed some
actions late last night in a different discussion, so let's just start with
those and couple more I have thought of since:
* Offering karma to those contributors who have provided enhancements to
ActiveMQ over the years but who have not been offered it yet (for this I am
already working to compile a list of people who have contributed enough
patches that they should be offered karma -- anyone care to help?)
* Publish a list of expectations on the wiki for contributors who are
interested in seeking karma
* Discussing ideas openly via the lists so that *everyone* has the context
that David mentioned
* Working publicly via the lists to foster trust amongst and offer one
another compromises
* Taking the time to include the rest of the community in the discussion by
reflecting the outcome of offline conversions via the lists
* Publish a plan of actions for the 'HornetQ donated code base' (including
Hiram's clarification)
What other ideas do people have for encouraging diversity?
Bruce
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Re: How to encourage more diversity on ActiveMQ
Posted by Clebert <cl...@gmail.com>.
Write a hacking guide, as we talked on apachecon at the hackaton area
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> On Apr 17, 2015, at 17:00, Hiram Chirino <hi...@hiramchirino.com> wrote:
>
> +1 Sounds like you got a good start :)
>
>> On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 4:07 PM, Bruce Snyder <br...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Clearly a discussion of this topic needs to be started. I proposed some
>> actions late last night in a different discussion, so let's just start with
>> those and couple more I have thought of since:
>>
>> * Offering karma to those contributors who have provided enhancements to
>> ActiveMQ over the years but who have not been offered it yet (for this I am
>> already working to compile a list of people who have contributed enough
>> patches that they should be offered karma -- anyone care to help?)
>> * Publish a list of expectations on the wiki for contributors who are
>> interested in seeking karma
>> * Discussing ideas openly via the lists so that *everyone* has the context
>> that David mentioned
>> * Working publicly via the lists to foster trust amongst and offer one
>> another compromises
>> * Taking the time to include the rest of the community in the discussion by
>> reflecting the outcome of offline conversions via the lists
>> * Publish a plan of actions for the 'HornetQ donated code base' (including
>> Hiram's clarification)
>>
>> What other ideas do people have for encouraging diversity?
>>
>> Bruce
>>
>> --
>> perl -e 'print
>> unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*" );'
>>
>> ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ
>> Blog: http://bruceblog.org/
>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder
>
>
>
> --
> Hiram Chirino
> Engineering | Red Hat, Inc.
> hchirino@redhat.com | fusesource.com | redhat.com
> skype: hiramchirino | twitter: @hiramchirino
Re: How to encourage more diversity on ActiveMQ
Posted by Hiram Chirino <hi...@hiramchirino.com>.
+1 Sounds like you got a good start :)
On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 4:07 PM, Bruce Snyder <br...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Clearly a discussion of this topic needs to be started. I proposed some
> actions late last night in a different discussion, so let's just start with
> those and couple more I have thought of since:
>
> * Offering karma to those contributors who have provided enhancements to
> ActiveMQ over the years but who have not been offered it yet (for this I am
> already working to compile a list of people who have contributed enough
> patches that they should be offered karma -- anyone care to help?)
> * Publish a list of expectations on the wiki for contributors who are
> interested in seeking karma
> * Discussing ideas openly via the lists so that *everyone* has the context
> that David mentioned
> * Working publicly via the lists to foster trust amongst and offer one
> another compromises
> * Taking the time to include the rest of the community in the discussion by
> reflecting the outcome of offline conversions via the lists
> * Publish a plan of actions for the 'HornetQ donated code base' (including
> Hiram's clarification)
>
> What other ideas do people have for encouraging diversity?
>
> Bruce
>
> --
> perl -e 'print
> unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*" );'
>
> ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ
> Blog: http://bruceblog.org/
> Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder
--
Hiram Chirino
Engineering | Red Hat, Inc.
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Re: How to encourage more diversity on ActiveMQ
Posted by jgenender <jg...@apache.org>.
Awesome ideas! Keep em coming!
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Re: How to encourage more diversity on ActiveMQ
Posted by Bruce Snyder <br...@gmail.com>.
Big +1 on these, David!
Bruce
On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 4:22 PM, David Jencks <
david_jencks@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote:
> - reduce or eliminate the backlog of unapplied/unaccepted/uncommented
> patches/pull requests
>
> - keep it that way :-)
>
> - (maybe) provide hints rather than complete solutions for bugs that don't
> seem too hard to fix given a starting point as an easy way to start to get
> involved.
>
> I think the above will increase the list of people we'd want to offer
> karma to.
>
> - look at what openejb does :-)
>
> So, I haven't compiled any statistics but think that some people have
> complained about ignored contributions. Ignoring people is kinda asking
> them to go away, not what we want.
>
> thanks
> david jencks
>
> On Apr 17, 2015, at 4:07 PM, Bruce Snyder <br...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Clearly a discussion of this topic needs to be started. I proposed some
> > actions late last night in a different discussion, so let's just start
> with
> > those and couple more I have thought of since:
> >
> > * Offering karma to those contributors who have provided enhancements to
> > ActiveMQ over the years but who have not been offered it yet (for this I
> am
> > already working to compile a list of people who have contributed enough
> > patches that they should be offered karma -- anyone care to help?)
> > * Publish a list of expectations on the wiki for contributors who are
> > interested in seeking karma
> > * Discussing ideas openly via the lists so that *everyone* has the
> context
> > that David mentioned
> > * Working publicly via the lists to foster trust amongst and offer one
> > another compromises
> > * Taking the time to include the rest of the community in the discussion
> by
> > reflecting the outcome of offline conversions via the lists
> > * Publish a plan of actions for the 'HornetQ donated code base'
> (including
> > Hiram's clarification)
> >
> > What other ideas do people have for encouraging diversity?
> >
> > Bruce
> >
> > --
> > perl -e 'print
> > unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*" );'
> >
> > ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ
> > Blog: http://bruceblog.org/
> > Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder
>
>
--
perl -e 'print
unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*" );'
ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ
Blog: http://bruceblog.org/
Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder
Re: How to encourage more diversity on ActiveMQ
Posted by David Jencks <da...@yahoo.com.INVALID>.
- reduce or eliminate the backlog of unapplied/unaccepted/uncommented patches/pull requests
- keep it that way :-)
- (maybe) provide hints rather than complete solutions for bugs that don't seem too hard to fix given a starting point as an easy way to start to get involved.
I think the above will increase the list of people we'd want to offer karma to.
- look at what openejb does :-)
So, I haven't compiled any statistics but think that some people have complained about ignored contributions. Ignoring people is kinda asking them to go away, not what we want.
thanks
david jencks
On Apr 17, 2015, at 4:07 PM, Bruce Snyder <br...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Clearly a discussion of this topic needs to be started. I proposed some
> actions late last night in a different discussion, so let's just start with
> those and couple more I have thought of since:
>
> * Offering karma to those contributors who have provided enhancements to
> ActiveMQ over the years but who have not been offered it yet (for this I am
> already working to compile a list of people who have contributed enough
> patches that they should be offered karma -- anyone care to help?)
> * Publish a list of expectations on the wiki for contributors who are
> interested in seeking karma
> * Discussing ideas openly via the lists so that *everyone* has the context
> that David mentioned
> * Working publicly via the lists to foster trust amongst and offer one
> another compromises
> * Taking the time to include the rest of the community in the discussion by
> reflecting the outcome of offline conversions via the lists
> * Publish a plan of actions for the 'HornetQ donated code base' (including
> Hiram's clarification)
>
> What other ideas do people have for encouraging diversity?
>
> Bruce
>
> --
> perl -e 'print
> unpack("u30","D0G)U8V4\@4VYY9&5R\"F)R=6-E+G-N>61E<D\!G;6%I;\"YC;VT*" );'
>
> ActiveMQ in Action: http://bit.ly/2je6cQ
> Blog: http://bruceblog.org/
> Twitter: http://twitter.com/brucesnyder