Status of kernel

[Reinhard Poetz <re...@apache.org>]

Sylvain Wallez wrote:

> Reinhard Poetz wrote:
>
>> Antonio Gallardo wrote:
>>
>>> Ugo Cei dijo:
>>>  
>>>
>>>> Il giorno 07/ago/04, alle 12:29, Antonio Gallardo ha scritto:
>>>>
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>>> BTW, miss we the first friday? Can we reschedule it to the next 
>>>>> friday?
>>>>>     
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I was online, and closed one bug (#30321), but keep in mind that, at
>>>> least in Europe, many people are on vacation in August and things are
>>>> not going to get any better next friday. I was able to contribute some
>>>> of my time, since I was on vacation but at home.
>>>>   
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for the info. A question:
>>>
>>> The main trunk is for the 2.2. This is the version with the new kernel
>>> based on Excalibur Fortress?
>>>
>>> Sorry, but I have a mess in my head about the new kernel.
>>
>>
>>
>> Carsten will upgrade 2.2 (trunk) to Fortress. In parallel Pier and 
>> Ugo work on their proposals about a new fundament of Cocoon. We will 
>> move both work into the whiteboard. Some time in the future we have 
>> to agree on one of the three ways (Fortress, kernel or spring) but 
>> now its time to learn what each alternative can do for us.
>
>
>
> A distinction should be made between the two levels of containers:
> 1/ a container for blocks (requiring hot deploy and wiring)
> 2/ a container for components within a block.
>
> The new kernel is in category 1 as could be Geronimo's GBeans (based 
> on JMX) Merlin or OSGi (used in Eclipse 3.0)
>
> Fortress and Spring are in category 2. I just started an in-depth 
> reading of Spring docs (starting with [1]) and must say I'm now almost 
> sold to it. While reading, some random thoughts pop up giving me the 
> feeling that writing an Avalon Framework compatibility layer should be 
> feasible.
>
> Sylvain
>
> [1] http://www.theserverside.com/resources/article.jsp?l=SpringFramework
>

Pier, what's the current status of the new kernel?

-- 
Reinhard

Re: Ghent in October?

[Reinhard Poetz <re...@apache.org>]

Pier Fumagalli wrote:

> On 9 Aug 2004, at 08:08, Reinhard Poetz wrote:
>
>> Cool, this means that we have to discuss a lot in Ghent in October :-)
>
>
> That's great! :-) Any confirmation on the dates? Steven?
>
> I'll need to inform the boss about that...
>
>     Pier

http://www.orixo.com/events/gt2004/

-- 
Reinhard

Re: Ghent in October?

[Gianugo Rabellino <gi...@apache.org>]

On Aug 9, 2004, at 11:25 AM, Pier Fumagalli wrote:

> On 9 Aug 2004, at 08:08, Reinhard Poetz wrote:
>
>> Cool, this means that we have to discuss a lot in Ghent in October :-)
>
> That's great! :-) Any confirmation on the dates? Steven?
>
> I'll need to inform the boss about that...

http://www.orixo.com/events/gt2004/

Still lots of work to do, but dates are fixed at least.

Ciao,
-- 
Gianugo Rabellino
Pro-netics s.r.l. -  http://www.pro-netics.com
Orixo, the XML business alliance: http://www.orixo.com

Ghent in October?

[Pier Fumagalli <pi...@betaversion.org>]

On 9 Aug 2004, at 08:08, Reinhard Poetz wrote:

> Cool, this means that we have to discuss a lot in Ghent in October :-)

That's great! :-) Any confirmation on the dates? Steven?

I'll need to inform the boss about that...

	Pier

Re: Status of kernel

[Reinhard Poetz <re...@apache.org>]

Pier Fumagalli wrote:

> On 8 Aug 2004, at 17:22, Reinhard Poetz wrote:
>
>> Pier, what's the current status of the new kernel?
>
>
> Up and running :-)
>
> Seriously, I had to concentrate in moving all our sites (15) to 
> Cocoon, and got cornered up with this job (which is kinda neat, I 
> mean, right now all IT Magazines by VNU/UK are running on Cocoon, so, 
> I'm happy).
>
> The backend is already using the new kernel to provide the real XML 
> repository of documents, and so far, it's working kinda neatly.
>
> I need to pick it back up as I identified a major design flaw in the 
> way in which events are dispatched, and blocks are reloaded (that's a 
> kind of a bummer), but should start hammering on that pretty soon...
>
> Events is vital for one other of our little projects, our NIO based 
> proxy server.
>
> I think you'll see more happening around september, we have new staff 
> starting (whohooo!) and once they're up to speed, we'll finally be in 
> 3 working on VNU's Cocoon and XML Backend, which means more work both 
> on the 2.2 branch (we're still having trouble with cache) and on the 
> new kernel!
>
>     Pier


Cool, this means that we have to discuss a lot in Ghent in October :-)

-- 
Reinhard

Re: Status of kernel

[Pier Fumagalli <pi...@betaversion.org>]

On 8 Aug 2004, at 17:22, Reinhard Poetz wrote:

> Pier, what's the current status of the new kernel?

Up and running :-)

Seriously, I had to concentrate in moving all our sites (15) to Cocoon, 
and got cornered up with this job (which is kinda neat, I mean, right 
now all IT Magazines by VNU/UK are running on Cocoon, so, I'm happy).

The backend is already using the new kernel to provide the real XML 
repository of documents, and so far, it's working kinda neatly.

I need to pick it back up as I identified a major design flaw in the 
way in which events are dispatched, and blocks are reloaded (that's a 
kind of a bummer), but should start hammering on that pretty soon...

Events is vital for one other of our little projects, our NIO based 
proxy server.

I think you'll see more happening around september, we have new staff 
starting (whohooo!) and once they're up to speed, we'll finally be in 3 
working on VNU's Cocoon and XML Backend, which means more work both on 
the 2.2 branch (we're still having trouble with cache) and on the new 
kernel!

	Pier