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Posted to dev@tomee.apache.org by David Blevins <da...@visi.com> on 2010/11/04 22:13:59 UTC
Renaming the OpenEJB/Tomcat bundle
Getting the feeling calling the bundle Tomtom is a disadvantage. Hadn't realized how incredible popular the Tomtom GPS tech was in Europe. There's really no way to google it or monitor it on twitter without getting a ton of results related to the GPS. I've seen a fair number of people say they dislike the name -- course they say so in unflattering ways :)
Have been thinking about what a better name would be and finally had a thought that wasn't terrible.
Thinking Tomee might be fun (pronounced like Tommy). Basically short for Tomcat EE.
Thoughts?
-David
Re: Renaming the OpenEJB/Tomcat bundle
Posted by Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <je...@atosorigin.com>.
Good catch!
+1
Jean-Louis
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Re: Renaming the OpenEJB/Tomcat bundle
Posted by Stephen Connolly <st...@gmail.com>.
That could work well for the jetty equivalent, jetee
On 4 Nov 2010 21:14, "David Blevins" <da...@visi.com> wrote:
Getting the feeling calling the bundle Tomtom is a disadvantage. Hadn't
realized how incredible popular the Tomtom GPS tech was in Europe. There's
really no way to google it or monitor it on twitter without getting a ton of
results related to the GPS. I've seen a fair number of people say they
dislike the name -- course they say so in unflattering ways :)
Have been thinking about what a better name would be and finally had a
thought that wasn't terrible.
Thinking Tomee might be fun (pronounced like Tommy). Basically short for
Tomcat EE.
Thoughts?
-David
Re: Renaming the OpenEJB/Tomcat bundle
Posted by Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org>.
+1 on TomEE
Also, I am currently (when ever time permits) trying to merge MyFaces
and OWB into it...
That's even more EE
-Matthias
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 4:15 PM, Jean-Louis MONTEIRO
<je...@atosorigin.com> wrote:
>
> Interesting post from Adam
> http://www.adam-bien.com/roller/abien/entry/tomcat_on_steroids_with_ejb
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Re: Renaming the OpenEJB/Tomcat bundle
Posted by Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <je...@atosorigin.com>.
Interesting post from Adam
http://www.adam-bien.com/roller/abien/entry/tomcat_on_steroids_with_ejb
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Re: Renaming the OpenEJB/Tomcat bundle
Posted by Jonathan Gallimore <jo...@gmail.com>.
I like it. I did like TomTom as well, but was a bit wary about the name
clash.
Jon
On 4 Nov 2010 21:18, "Thiago Veronezi" <th...@veronezi.org> wrote:
> I think thats a really good name.
> []s,
> Thiago.
>
> On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 5:13 PM, David Blevins <david.blevins@visi.com
>wrote:
>
>> Getting the feeling calling the bundle Tomtom is a disadvantage. Hadn't
>> realized how incredible popular the Tomtom GPS tech was in Europe.
There's
>> really no way to google it or monitor it on twitter without getting a ton
of
>> results related to the GPS. I've seen a fair number of people say they
>> dislike the name -- course they say so in unflattering ways :)
>>
>> Have been thinking about what a better name would be and finally had a
>> thought that wasn't terrible.
>>
>> Thinking Tomee might be fun (pronounced like Tommy). Basically short for
>> Tomcat EE.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>>
>> -David
>>
Re: Renaming the OpenEJB/Tomcat bundle
Posted by Thiago Veronezi <th...@veronezi.org>.
I think thats a really good name.
[]s,
Thiago.
On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 5:13 PM, David Blevins <da...@visi.com>wrote:
> Getting the feeling calling the bundle Tomtom is a disadvantage. Hadn't
> realized how incredible popular the Tomtom GPS tech was in Europe. There's
> really no way to google it or monitor it on twitter without getting a ton of
> results related to the GPS. I've seen a fair number of people say they
> dislike the name -- course they say so in unflattering ways :)
>
> Have been thinking about what a better name would be and finally had a
> thought that wasn't terrible.
>
> Thinking Tomee might be fun (pronounced like Tommy). Basically short for
> Tomcat EE.
>
> Thoughts?
>
>
> -David
>
Re: Renaming the OpenEJB/Tomcat bundle
Posted by David Blevins <da...@visi.com>.
On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 4:43 AM, Gurkan Erdogdu <gu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> David when we started SIwpas, OpenEJB/Tomcat integration was not the right
> project for us to contribute. Becuase it needs lots of customization and also
> trimming of the features like Web Services, Connectors , JMS etc. Moreover, at
> that time OpenEJB/Tomcat integration was not so active project as today. For
> example, OpenEJB/Tomcat still does not support Tomcat 7. Working with that type
> of project consumes lots of time becuase of patching, waiting for accepting,
> etc....
>
> When you are not a committer of the project, it is not easy to patch everthing
> and continue to next. While we write SIwpas, we patch other projects like
> OpenEJB, MyFaces, Tomcat, OpenWebBeans etc. It means that we did not just get
> OpenEJB/Tomcat integration and started forking. SIwpas contains lots of new
> things. It has passed OpenWebBeans Web Profile TCK, and we will start to
> certify it as a Java EE Web Profile Container. SIwpas Web 2.0 administration
> console is on the way also.
>
>
> Anyway, I understood your points but I ensure that you also understand my
> points....
>
> Just my 2 cents
This seems easy to fix. If you're passionate about the success of the
project and are willing to do those things here, I don't see any
reason you couldn't be a committer right now.
As you point out we could use the help.
Dain was the most recent to take the Tomcat code under his wing and
really took it a level further than its previous version. It would be
great to have you in there pushing it to the next level.
There's plenty of room for more ideas and hands!
-David
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: dblevins <da...@visi.com>
> To: dev@openejb.apache.org
> Sent: Sat, November 6, 2010 6:02:33 AM
> Subject: Re: Renaming the OpenEJB/Tomcat bundle
>
>
> Why not just help out?
>
> I have to say I'm confused why you would fork the OpenEJB/Tomcat integration
> code to a google code project, then reintroduce it back into Apache as an
> Incubator project.
>
> If you have new ideas I'm sure we'd all love to hear them and be excited to
> have the help.
>
>
> -David
>
>
> Gurkan Erdogdu wrote:
>>
>> Hi folks;
>>
>> We are thinking to propose SIwpas as an incubator porject in ASF.
>>
>> Gurkan
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <je...@atosorigin.com>
>> To: dev@openejb.apache.org
>> Sent: Fri, November 5, 2010 4:44:48 PM
>> Subject: Re: Renaming the OpenEJB/Tomcat bundle
>>
>>
>> WDYT about
>>
>> http://code.google.com/p/siwpas/
>>
>> and the company
>> http://mechsoft.com.tr/Mechsoft/software/en/acikkaynak/siwpas.html
>>
>> JLouis
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Re: Renaming the OpenEJB/Tomcat bundle
Posted by Gurkan Erdogdu <gu...@yahoo.com>.
Hi,
David when we started SIwpas, OpenEJB/Tomcat integration was not the right
project for us to contribute. Becuase it needs lots of customization and also
trimming of the features like Web Services, Connectors , JMS etc. Moreover, at
that time OpenEJB/Tomcat integration was not so active project as today. For
example, OpenEJB/Tomcat still does not support Tomcat 7. Working with that type
of project consumes lots of time becuase of patching, waiting for accepting,
etc....
When you are not a committer of the project, it is not easy to patch everthing
and continue to next. While we write SIwpas, we patch other projects like
OpenEJB, MyFaces, Tomcat, OpenWebBeans etc. It means that we did not just get
OpenEJB/Tomcat integration and started forking. SIwpas contains lots of new
things. It has passed OpenWebBeans Web Profile TCK, and we will start to
certify it as a Java EE Web Profile Container. SIwpas Web 2.0 administration
console is on the way also.
Anyway, I understood your points but I ensure that you also understand my
points....
Just my 2 cents
Thanks;
--Gurkan
----- Original Message ----
From: dblevins <da...@visi.com>
To: dev@openejb.apache.org
Sent: Sat, November 6, 2010 6:02:33 AM
Subject: Re: Renaming the OpenEJB/Tomcat bundle
Why not just help out?
I have to say I'm confused why you would fork the OpenEJB/Tomcat integration
code to a google code project, then reintroduce it back into Apache as an
Incubator project.
If you have new ideas I'm sure we'd all love to hear them and be excited to
have the help.
-David
Gurkan Erdogdu wrote:
>
> Hi folks;
>
> We are thinking to propose SIwpas as an incubator porject in ASF.
>
> Gurkan
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <je...@atosorigin.com>
> To: dev@openejb.apache.org
> Sent: Fri, November 5, 2010 4:44:48 PM
> Subject: Re: Renaming the OpenEJB/Tomcat bundle
>
>
> WDYT about
>
> http://code.google.com/p/siwpas/
>
> and the company
> http://mechsoft.com.tr/Mechsoft/software/en/acikkaynak/siwpas.html
>
> JLouis
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Re: Renaming the OpenEJB/Tomcat bundle
Posted by dblevins <da...@visi.com>.
Why not just help out?
I have to say I'm confused why you would fork the OpenEJB/Tomcat integration
code to a google code project, then reintroduce it back into Apache as an
Incubator project.
If you have new ideas I'm sure we'd all love to hear them and be excited to
have the help.
-David
Gurkan Erdogdu wrote:
>
> Hi folks;
>
> We are thinking to propose SIwpas as an incubator porject in ASF.
>
> Gurkan
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <je...@atosorigin.com>
> To: dev@openejb.apache.org
> Sent: Fri, November 5, 2010 4:44:48 PM
> Subject: Re: Renaming the OpenEJB/Tomcat bundle
>
>
> WDYT about
>
> http://code.google.com/p/siwpas/
>
> and the company
> http://mechsoft.com.tr/Mechsoft/software/en/acikkaynak/siwpas.html
>
> JLouis
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Re: Renaming the OpenEJB/Tomcat bundle
Posted by Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org>.
Cool!
-Matze
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On Nov 5, 2010 6:43 PM, "Gurkan Erdogdu" <gu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi folks;
>
> We are thinking to propose SIwpas as an incubator porject in ASF.
>
> Gurkan
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <je...@atosorigin.com>
> To: dev@openejb.apache.org
> Sent: Fri, November 5, 2010 4:44:48 PM
> Subject: Re: Renaming the OpenEJB/Tomcat bundle
>
>
> WDYT about
>
> http://code.google.com/p/siwpas/
>
> and the company
> http://mechsoft.com.tr/Mechsoft/software/en/acikkaynak/siwpas.html
>
> JLouis
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Re: Renaming the OpenEJB/Tomcat bundle
Posted by Gurkan Erdogdu <gu...@yahoo.com>.
Hi folks;
We are thinking to propose SIwpas as an incubator porject in ASF.
Gurkan
----- Original Message ----
From: Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <je...@atosorigin.com>
To: dev@openejb.apache.org
Sent: Fri, November 5, 2010 4:44:48 PM
Subject: Re: Renaming the OpenEJB/Tomcat bundle
WDYT about
http://code.google.com/p/siwpas/
and the company
http://mechsoft.com.tr/Mechsoft/software/en/acikkaynak/siwpas.html
JLouis
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Re: Renaming the OpenEJB/Tomcat bundle
Posted by Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <je...@atosorigin.com>.
WDYT about
http://code.google.com/p/siwpas/
and the company
http://mechsoft.com.tr/Mechsoft/software/en/acikkaynak/siwpas.html
JLouis
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Re: Renaming the OpenEJB/Tomcat bundle
Posted by AndyG <an...@orprovision.com>.
I like TomEE - With capitals ;-)
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