Getting rid of the "wish" issue type

[Mike Kienenberger <mk...@gmail.com>]

I think we should get rid of the "wish" issue type.

I don't see that we're likely to have someone surfing the jira issue
tracker looking for things to do.

If someone wants to wish for something, the user list (or maybe a wiki
page) seems like a better place to do it.

All this issue type is doing is collecting work that other people are
not willing to do themselves.

We already have a "new feature" type that people use when they plan to
provide patches to implement their new feature.

Re: Re: Getting rid of the "wish" issue type

[Sean Schofield <se...@gmail.com>]

Sorry but its been there all along.

Sean

On 8/20/06, Mike Kienenberger <mk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Has this stuff been here all along and I somehow missed it when
> looking for it, or was it added recently (in the last couple of
> months)?   I feel like a fool for not seeing it up to this point.
>
> On 8/20/06, Adam Winer <aw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Even easier than that - there''s a link right off the main
> > "Browse Project" page...  Look under Project Summary
> > at http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MYFACES
> >
> > -- Adam
> >
> > On 8/20/06, Sean Schofield <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Is there any way to search for "Patch Available" issues?
> > > > I haven't been able to figure this out yet myself.
> > >
> > > Just create a custom search under "Find Issues"  Be sure to change the
> > > project to MyFaces and click the "refresh link" that they show you.
> > > Otherwise you are stuck with options available for all projects and
> > > you don't see MyFaces specific stuff.
> > >
> > > Sean
> > >
> >
>

Re: Re: Getting rid of the "wish" issue type

[Mike Kienenberger <mk...@gmail.com>]

Has this stuff been here all along and I somehow missed it when
looking for it, or was it added recently (in the last couple of
months)?   I feel like a fool for not seeing it up to this point.

On 8/20/06, Adam Winer <aw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Even easier than that - there''s a link right off the main
> "Browse Project" page...  Look under Project Summary
> at http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MYFACES
>
> -- Adam
>
> On 8/20/06, Sean Schofield <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Is there any way to search for "Patch Available" issues?
> > > I haven't been able to figure this out yet myself.
> >
> > Just create a custom search under "Find Issues"  Be sure to change the
> > project to MyFaces and click the "refresh link" that they show you.
> > Otherwise you are stuck with options available for all projects and
> > you don't see MyFaces specific stuff.
> >
> > Sean
> >
>

Re: Re: Getting rid of the "wish" issue type

[Adam Winer <aw...@gmail.com>]

Even easier than that - there''s a link right off the main
"Browse Project" page...  Look under Project Summary
at http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MYFACES

-- Adam

On 8/20/06, Sean Schofield <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Is there any way to search for "Patch Available" issues?
> > I haven't been able to figure this out yet myself.
>
> Just create a custom search under "Find Issues"  Be sure to change the
> project to MyFaces and click the "refresh link" that they show you.
> Otherwise you are stuck with options available for all projects and
> you don't see MyFaces specific stuff.
>
> Sean
>

Re: Getting rid of the "wish" issue type

[Mike Kienenberger <mk...@gmail.com>]

Aha!   I was sure that the last time I looked, Patch Available wasn't
an option under status.   Thanks for pointing this out.


On 8/20/06, Sean Schofield <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Is there any way to search for "Patch Available" issues?
> > I haven't been able to figure this out yet myself.
>
> Just create a custom search under "Find Issues"  Be sure to change the
> project to MyFaces and click the "refresh link" that they show you.
> Otherwise you are stuck with options available for all projects and
> you don't see MyFaces specific stuff.
>
> Sean
>

Re: Getting rid of the "wish" issue type

[Sean Schofield <se...@gmail.com>]

> Is there any way to search for "Patch Available" issues?
> I haven't been able to figure this out yet myself.

Just create a custom search under "Find Issues"  Be sure to change the
project to MyFaces and click the "refresh link" that they show you.
Otherwise you are stuck with options available for all projects and
you don't see MyFaces specific stuff.

Sean

Re: Getting rid of the "wish" issue type

[Mike Kienenberger <mk...@gmail.com>]

Is there any way to search for "Patch Available" issues?
I haven't been able to figure this out yet myself.


On 8/20/06, Sean Schofield <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> +1 for removing wish.  Its all a wish - even the bugs.  I think the
> current voting system is a better way for finding what the popular
> requests are.  IMO those take second priority over "Patch Available."
>
> sean
>
> On 8/18/06, Cagatay Civici <ca...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > for a "wish" ?
> >
> > Yes, I do it if only I believe the demand seems important.
> >
> > But no problem for me, I'd not oppose getting rid of wish type issues.
> >
> > On 8/18/06, Matthias Wessendorf < matzew@apache.org> wrote:
> > > > Well, I'm doing that and assign the issues that I find reasonable to
> > myself.
> > >
> > > for a "wish" ?
> > >
> > > I look at open issues (bugs) but not wishes.
> > >
> > > > On 8/17/06, Matthias Wessendorf < matzew@apache.org> wrote:
> > > > > +1
> > > > >
> > > > > On 8/17/06, Mike Kienenberger < mkienenb@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > I think we should get rid of the "wish" issue type.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I don't see that we're likely to have someone surfing the jira issue
> > > > > > tracker looking for things to do.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If someone wants to wish for something, the user list (or maybe a
> > wiki
> > > > > > page) seems like a better place to do it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > All this issue type is doing is collecting work that other people
> > are
> > > > > > not willing to do themselves.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We already have a "new feature" type that people use when they plan
> > to
> > > > > > provide patches to implement their new feature.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Matthias Wessendorf
> > > > >
> > > > > further stuff:
> > > > > blog: http://jroller.com/page/mwessendorf
> > > > > mail: mwessendorf-at-gmail-dot-com
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Matthias Wessendorf
> > >
> > > further stuff:
> > > blog: http://jroller.com/page/mwessendorf
> > > mail: mwessendorf-at-gmail-dot-com
> > >
> >
> >
>

Re: Getting rid of the "wish" issue type

[Sean Schofield <se...@gmail.com>]

+1 for removing wish.  Its all a wish - even the bugs.  I think the
current voting system is a better way for finding what the popular
requests are.  IMO those take second priority over "Patch Available."

sean

On 8/18/06, Cagatay Civici <ca...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > for a "wish" ?
>
> Yes, I do it if only I believe the demand seems important.
>
> But no problem for me, I'd not oppose getting rid of wish type issues.
>
> On 8/18/06, Matthias Wessendorf < matzew@apache.org> wrote:
> > > Well, I'm doing that and assign the issues that I find reasonable to
> myself.
> >
> > for a "wish" ?
> >
> > I look at open issues (bugs) but not wishes.
> >
> > > On 8/17/06, Matthias Wessendorf < matzew@apache.org> wrote:
> > > > +1
> > > >
> > > > On 8/17/06, Mike Kienenberger < mkienenb@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > I think we should get rid of the "wish" issue type.
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't see that we're likely to have someone surfing the jira issue
> > > > > tracker looking for things to do.
> > > > >
> > > > > If someone wants to wish for something, the user list (or maybe a
> wiki
> > > > > page) seems like a better place to do it.
> > > > >
> > > > > All this issue type is doing is collecting work that other people
> are
> > > > > not willing to do themselves.
> > > > >
> > > > > We already have a "new feature" type that people use when they plan
> to
> > > > > provide patches to implement their new feature.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Matthias Wessendorf
> > > >
> > > > further stuff:
> > > > blog: http://jroller.com/page/mwessendorf
> > > > mail: mwessendorf-at-gmail-dot-com
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Matthias Wessendorf
> >
> > further stuff:
> > blog: http://jroller.com/page/mwessendorf
> > mail: mwessendorf-at-gmail-dot-com
> >
>
>

Re: Getting rid of the "wish" issue type

[Cagatay Civici <ca...@gmail.com>]

>
> for a "wish" ?


Yes, I do it if only I believe the demand seems important.

But no problem for me, I'd not oppose getting rid of wish type issues.

On 8/18/06, Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Well, I'm doing that and assign the issues that I find reasonable to
> myself.
>
> for a "wish" ?
>
> I look at open issues (bugs) but not wishes.
>
> > On 8/17/06, Matthias Wessendorf < matzew@apache.org> wrote:
> > > +1
> > >
> > > On 8/17/06, Mike Kienenberger < mkienenb@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > I think we should get rid of the "wish" issue type.
> > > >
> > > > I don't see that we're likely to have someone surfing the jira issue
> > > > tracker looking for things to do.
> > > >
> > > > If someone wants to wish for something, the user list (or maybe a
> wiki
> > > > page) seems like a better place to do it.
> > > >
> > > > All this issue type is doing is collecting work that other people
> are
> > > > not willing to do themselves.
> > > >
> > > > We already have a "new feature" type that people use when they plan
> to
> > > > provide patches to implement their new feature.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Matthias Wessendorf
> > >
> > > further stuff:
> > > blog: http://jroller.com/page/mwessendorf
> > > mail: mwessendorf-at-gmail-dot-com
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Matthias Wessendorf
>
> further stuff:
> blog: http://jroller.com/page/mwessendorf
> mail: mwessendorf-at-gmail-dot-com
>

Re: Getting rid of the "wish" issue type

[Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org>]

> Well, I'm doing that and assign the issues that I find reasonable to myself.

for a "wish" ?

I look at open issues (bugs) but not wishes.

> On 8/17/06, Matthias Wessendorf < matzew@apache.org> wrote:
> > +1
> >
> > On 8/17/06, Mike Kienenberger < mkienenb@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I think we should get rid of the "wish" issue type.
> > >
> > > I don't see that we're likely to have someone surfing the jira issue
> > > tracker looking for things to do.
> > >
> > > If someone wants to wish for something, the user list (or maybe a wiki
> > > page) seems like a better place to do it.
> > >
> > > All this issue type is doing is collecting work that other people are
> > > not willing to do themselves.
> > >
> > > We already have a "new feature" type that people use when they plan to
> > > provide patches to implement their new feature.
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Matthias Wessendorf
> >
> > further stuff:
> > blog: http://jroller.com/page/mwessendorf
> > mail: mwessendorf-at-gmail-dot-com
> >
>
>


-- 
Matthias Wessendorf

further stuff:
blog: http://jroller.com/page/mwessendorf
mail: mwessendorf-at-gmail-dot-com

Re: Getting rid of the "wish" issue type

[Cagatay Civici <ca...@gmail.com>]

>
> I don't see that we're likely to have someone surfing the jira issue
> tracker looking for things to do.



Well, I'm doing that and assign the issues that I find reasonable to myself.

On 8/17/06, Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> +1
>
> On 8/17/06, Mike Kienenberger <mk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I think we should get rid of the "wish" issue type.
> >
> > I don't see that we're likely to have someone surfing the jira issue
> > tracker looking for things to do.
> >
> > If someone wants to wish for something, the user list (or maybe a wiki
> > page) seems like a better place to do it.
> >
> > All this issue type is doing is collecting work that other people are
> > not willing to do themselves.
> >
> > We already have a "new feature" type that people use when they plan to
> > provide patches to implement their new feature.
> >
>
>
> --
> Matthias Wessendorf
>
> further stuff:
> blog: http://jroller.com/page/mwessendorf
> mail: mwessendorf-at-gmail-dot-com
>

Re: Getting rid of the "wish" issue type

[Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org>]

+1

On 8/17/06, Mike Kienenberger <mk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think we should get rid of the "wish" issue type.
>
> I don't see that we're likely to have someone surfing the jira issue
> tracker looking for things to do.
>
> If someone wants to wish for something, the user list (or maybe a wiki
> page) seems like a better place to do it.
>
> All this issue type is doing is collecting work that other people are
> not willing to do themselves.
>
> We already have a "new feature" type that people use when they plan to
> provide patches to implement their new feature.
>


-- 
Matthias Wessendorf

further stuff:
blog: http://jroller.com/page/mwessendorf
mail: mwessendorf-at-gmail-dot-com

Re: Getting rid of the "wish" issue type

[Mike Kienenberger <mk...@gmail.com>]

Thanks, Manfred.  I forgot to check for closed issues.
I'll take care of those, and make the change when I've done so.

On 9/22/06, Manfred Geiler <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Just created the "MyFaces Issue Type Scheme" but were unable to assign
> it to "MyFaces Core" because there are still 6 "Test" and 3 "Wish"
> issues.
> The "Sub-Task" seems to be a special type and it looks like it is
> mandatory in some way.
>
> Mike, I just gave you jira-admin permissions. Feel free to reorganize
> the issue types according to your proposal (but please be careful
> because your admin permissions allow you to do really bad things not
> only in MyFaces but also in other Jira projects).
>
> Thanks,
> Manfred
>
>
>
> On 9/22/06, Mike Kienenberger <mk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Yeah, I don't seem to have that level of JIRA privs.   I see a couple
> > other strange issue types we probably could also get rid of (Test,
> > subtask->subtask)
> >
> > On 9/22/06, Craig McClanahan <cr...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > On 9/22/06, Mike Kienenberger <mk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > On 8/17/06, Mike Kienenberger <mk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > I think we should get rid of the "wish" issue type.
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't see that we're likely to have someone surfing the jira issue
> > > > > tracker looking for things to do.
> > > > >
> > > > > If someone wants to wish for something, the user list (or maybe a wiki
> > > > > page) seems like a better place to do it.
> > > > >
> > > > > All this issue type is doing is collecting work that other people are
> > > > > not willing to do themselves.
> > > > >
> > > > > We already have a "new feature" type that people use when they plan to
> > > > > provide patches to implement their new feature.
> > > >
> > > > No one objected to removing "Wish" as an issue type.
> > > > Unfortunately, that appears to be beyond my ability to change in the
> > > > JIRA system.
> > > >
> > > > Looks like it is defined here:
> > > >
> > > > Issue Type Scheme:  Apache Default Issue Type Scheme
> > > >
> > > > So maybe it's not something we can change solely for our project.
> > > >
> > >
> > > One approach to this would be to clone the "Apache Default Issue Type
> > > Scheme" into a "MyFaces Issue Type Scheme" and make any adjustments, then
> > > assign this scheme to the MyFaces project(s).  I did something like this for
> > > Shale (which shares a JIRA instance with Struts, but has slightly different
> > > requirements) and it has worked out pretty well.
> > >
> > > Craig
> > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: Getting rid of the "wish" issue type

[Manfred Geiler <ma...@gmail.com>]

Just created the "MyFaces Issue Type Scheme" but were unable to assign
it to "MyFaces Core" because there are still 6 "Test" and 3 "Wish"
issues.
The "Sub-Task" seems to be a special type and it looks like it is
mandatory in some way.

Mike, I just gave you jira-admin permissions. Feel free to reorganize
the issue types according to your proposal (but please be careful
because your admin permissions allow you to do really bad things not
only in MyFaces but also in other Jira projects).

Thanks,
Manfred



On 9/22/06, Mike Kienenberger <mk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Yeah, I don't seem to have that level of JIRA privs.   I see a couple
> other strange issue types we probably could also get rid of (Test,
> subtask->subtask)
>
> On 9/22/06, Craig McClanahan <cr...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 9/22/06, Mike Kienenberger <mk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On 8/17/06, Mike Kienenberger <mk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > I think we should get rid of the "wish" issue type.
> > > >
> > > > I don't see that we're likely to have someone surfing the jira issue
> > > > tracker looking for things to do.
> > > >
> > > > If someone wants to wish for something, the user list (or maybe a wiki
> > > > page) seems like a better place to do it.
> > > >
> > > > All this issue type is doing is collecting work that other people are
> > > > not willing to do themselves.
> > > >
> > > > We already have a "new feature" type that people use when they plan to
> > > > provide patches to implement their new feature.
> > >
> > > No one objected to removing "Wish" as an issue type.
> > > Unfortunately, that appears to be beyond my ability to change in the
> > > JIRA system.
> > >
> > > Looks like it is defined here:
> > >
> > > Issue Type Scheme:  Apache Default Issue Type Scheme
> > >
> > > So maybe it's not something we can change solely for our project.
> > >
> >
> > One approach to this would be to clone the "Apache Default Issue Type
> > Scheme" into a "MyFaces Issue Type Scheme" and make any adjustments, then
> > assign this scheme to the MyFaces project(s).  I did something like this for
> > Shale (which shares a JIRA instance with Struts, but has slightly different
> > requirements) and it has worked out pretty well.
> >
> > Craig
> >
> >
>

Re: Getting rid of the "wish" issue type

[Mike Kienenberger <mk...@gmail.com>]

Yeah, I don't seem to have that level of JIRA privs.   I see a couple
other strange issue types we probably could also get rid of (Test,
subtask->subtask)

On 9/22/06, Craig McClanahan <cr...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>
> On 9/22/06, Mike Kienenberger <mk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 8/17/06, Mike Kienenberger <mk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I think we should get rid of the "wish" issue type.
> > >
> > > I don't see that we're likely to have someone surfing the jira issue
> > > tracker looking for things to do.
> > >
> > > If someone wants to wish for something, the user list (or maybe a wiki
> > > page) seems like a better place to do it.
> > >
> > > All this issue type is doing is collecting work that other people are
> > > not willing to do themselves.
> > >
> > > We already have a "new feature" type that people use when they plan to
> > > provide patches to implement their new feature.
> >
> > No one objected to removing "Wish" as an issue type.
> > Unfortunately, that appears to be beyond my ability to change in the
> > JIRA system.
> >
> > Looks like it is defined here:
> >
> > Issue Type Scheme:  Apache Default Issue Type Scheme
> >
> > So maybe it's not something we can change solely for our project.
> >
>
> One approach to this would be to clone the "Apache Default Issue Type
> Scheme" into a "MyFaces Issue Type Scheme" and make any adjustments, then
> assign this scheme to the MyFaces project(s).  I did something like this for
> Shale (which shares a JIRA instance with Struts, but has slightly different
> requirements) and it has worked out pretty well.
>
> Craig
>
>

Re: Getting rid of the "wish" issue type

[Craig McClanahan <cr...@apache.org>]

On 9/22/06, Mike Kienenberger <mk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 8/17/06, Mike Kienenberger <mk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I think we should get rid of the "wish" issue type.
> >
> > I don't see that we're likely to have someone surfing the jira issue
> > tracker looking for things to do.
> >
> > If someone wants to wish for something, the user list (or maybe a wiki
> > page) seems like a better place to do it.
> >
> > All this issue type is doing is collecting work that other people are
> > not willing to do themselves.
> >
> > We already have a "new feature" type that people use when they plan to
> > provide patches to implement their new feature.
>
> No one objected to removing "Wish" as an issue type.
> Unfortunately, that appears to be beyond my ability to change in the
> JIRA system.
>
> Looks like it is defined here:
>
> Issue Type Scheme:  Apache Default Issue Type Scheme
>
> So maybe it's not something we can change solely for our project.
>

One approach to this would be to clone the "Apache Default Issue Type
Scheme" into a "MyFaces Issue Type Scheme" and make any adjustments, then
assign this scheme to the MyFaces project(s).  I did something like this for
Shale (which shares a JIRA instance with Struts, but has slightly different
requirements) and it has worked out pretty well.

Craig

Re: Getting rid of the "wish" issue type

[Mike Kienenberger <mk...@gmail.com>]

On 8/17/06, Mike Kienenberger <mk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think we should get rid of the "wish" issue type.
>
> I don't see that we're likely to have someone surfing the jira issue
> tracker looking for things to do.
>
> If someone wants to wish for something, the user list (or maybe a wiki
> page) seems like a better place to do it.
>
> All this issue type is doing is collecting work that other people are
> not willing to do themselves.
>
> We already have a "new feature" type that people use when they plan to
> provide patches to implement their new feature.

No one objected to removing "Wish" as an issue type.
Unfortunately, that appears to be beyond my ability to change in the
JIRA system.

Looks like it is defined here:

Issue Type Scheme:  Apache Default Issue Type Scheme

So maybe it's not something we can change solely for our project.