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Posted to dev@commons.apache.org by Nicholas Lesiecki <ni...@eblox.com> on 2001/12/31 19:06:48 UTC
Torque learning curve WAS: RE: Jakarta Persistence Framework?
Amen on the learning curve. Erik Hatcher recommended Torque to me, and I
tried checking it out...I had no idea where to start. So I'm continuing to
use EJB/CMP--which does in fact work just fine with Struts.
Kudos to all committers on keeping Struts' domain of expertise limited.
Cheers,
nick
-----Original Message-----
From: Ted Husted [mailto:husted@apache.org]
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 10:47 AM
To: Jakarta Commons Developers List
Subject: Re: Jakarta Persistence Framework?
Vincent Massol wrote:
> Have you checked Scaffold (built by Ted Husted) in the contrib directory
> of Struts (http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs/jakarta-struts/contrib/) ? It
> does a bit of what you'd like although maybe not everything.
No! Stop! -- Let Bryan hook up Torque to Struts -- so he can tell me how
to do it too ;-)
I'm *very* interested in doing more work with Torque, but coming from
outside a Turbine background, I just don't know where to start ;-(
Calling any persistence layer from a Struts Action should not be
difficult. The Action just pulls out what is needed from the http layer,
passes it up, and passes back the result. The trick is often finding a
simple enough example. I'm sure Scarab puts Torque through its paces,
but a "Hello World" would be very helpful for a newcomer. (And, of
course, if I ever get past the curve, I'll eagerly provide one of my own
;0)
Most of *really* aren't interested in re-inventing the wheel. Sometimes
it's just hard to find out how the lugnuts are threaded.
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Re: Torque learning curve WAS: RE: Jakarta Persistence Framework?
Posted by Ted Husted <hu...@apache.org>.
Thanks, Erik, that did help. I got Torque to build, but the build-test
failed. I may have to go back and be sure I have the right versions of
all the JARs. It wanted a later version of Village for example, along
with some others that I didn't have handy.
D:\jakarta\CVS\jakarta-turbine-torque\bin\test\rttest\build-torque.xml:97:
taskdef class org.apache.torque.task.TorqueDocumentationTask cannot be
found
--- Nested Exception ---
java.lang.ClassNotFoundException:
org.apache.torque.task.TorqueDocumentationTask
-Ted.
Erik Hatcher wrote:
>
> While I did refer Nick to Torque, I have not had the pleasure of using it
> yet, although I have seen a very impressive demo of it and highly recommend
> it over any of the alternatives I've seen.
>
> Ted, will the JAR's in the lib directory of the torque-2.1 download at
> http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/jakarta-turbine/release/2.1/ do the trick
> for you?
>
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Re: Torque learning curve WAS: RE: Jakarta Persistence Framework?
Posted by Erik Hatcher <ja...@ehatchersolutions.com>.
While I did refer Nick to Torque, I have not had the pleasure of using it
yet, although I have seen a very impressive demo of it and highly recommend
it over any of the alternatives I've seen.
Ted, will the JAR's in the lib directory of the torque-2.1 download at
http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/jakarta-turbine/release/2.1/ do the trick
for you?
Erik
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From: "Ted Husted" <hu...@apache.org>
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Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2002 9:42 AM
Subject: Re: Torque learning curve WAS: RE: Jakarta Persistence Framework?
> Martin Poeschl wrote:
> > there is a testbed in torque cvs (/src/rttest)) ... it runs all
generation tasks and includes a
> > simple app which adds data to the db ...
>
> Has www.working-dogs.com moved? Is that were Village lives? I don't have
> the JAR handy, and the build file wants it. Or is there a WAR for the
> testbed someplace?
>
> -- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com, Fairport NY USA.
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Re: Torque learning curve WAS: RE: Jakarta Persistence Framework?
Posted by Jason van Zyl <jv...@zenplex.com>.
On 1/2/02 2:43 PM, "Ted Husted" <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
> Perhaps you might consider starting a top-level Torque sub-project
> sooner than later, in the hope of attracting volunteers from outside the
> Turbine community, who could help broaden the package.
>
It's definitely part of the overall plan, the decoupling has of course taken
longer than I expected but I do feel it requires some work before even
trying to promote it to top-level subproject. We are actually trying to get
a comprehensive testbed in place so that we can prepare for some aggressive
refactoring and also allow others to contribute in a way where they can be
assured they haven't broken anything. This will definitely help to allow
more people to contribute and hopefully push Torque to critical mass where
it can be a subproject in its own right.
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Re: Torque learning curve WAS: RE: Jakarta Persistence Framework?
Posted by Ted Husted <hu...@apache.org>.
Perhaps you might consider starting a top-level Torque sub-project
sooner than later, in the hope of attracting volunteers from outside the
Turbine community, who could help broaden the package.
-Ted.
Jason van Zyl wrote:
>
> On 1/2/02 1:49 PM, "Ted Husted" <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Martin Poeschl wrote:
> >>
> >> i send a copy to the turbine list, so we can discuss on the right list ;-)
> >>
> >
> > If the Torque dependancies on Turbine have been removed, perhaps its
> > time to consider transferring Torque et al to the Commons -- then this
> > would be the right list ;-)
>
> Possibly, IMO Torque still has some issues that need to be worked out before
> widespread use. Pluggable connection pools, some very strange initialization
> patterns have to be removed, and the collection of single RDB's peculiar
> features into one location as they are in a couple now. I also have some
> serious problems with it's mode of usage, Torque primarily being a
> datamodel-centric tool as opposed a persistence layer for an object model.
> Right now the object model produced is really a thin veneer over top the
> datamodel (an object produced for each table) which can certainly work in a
> lot of cases but I don't think that's anywhere close to being usable in many
> real world situations.
>
> I also feel that Torque is a little out of scope for a commons package and
> the general feeling within the Turbine group is that Torque should
> eventually become its own project when it leaves the Turbine fold.
>
> > As mentioned, I would be happy to help with the packaging and additional
> > documentation, especially if it were distributed through the Commons.
> >
> >
> > -- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com, Fairport NY USA.
> > -- Building Java web applications with Struts.
> > -- Tel +1 585 737-3463.
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> jvz.
>
> Jason van Zyl
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Re: Torque learning curve WAS: RE: Jakarta Persistence Framework?
Posted by "Kevin A. Burton" <bu...@openprivacy.org>.
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> I also feel that Torque is a little out of scope for a commons package and
> the general feeling within the Turbine group is that Torque should
> eventually become its own project when it leaves the Turbine fold.
<snip/>
I would agree here. Torques complexities really deserve its own 'focus' group,
separation of concerns and all.
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RE: Torque learning curve WAS: RE: Jakarta Persistence Framework?
Posted by Paulo Gaspar <pa...@krankikom.de>.
> Pluggable connection pools...
If you make it use a DataSource to obtain connections then you can use
a DataSource wrapper for the pool and a Connection wrapper for the
pooled connection.
Obvious advantages:
- That is what most database connection pools already do;
- You can always wrap other database connection pools this way;
- You can also use Application Server DataSources.
Have fun,
Paulo Gaspar
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jason van Zyl [mailto:jvanzyl@zenplex.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 8:39 PM
> To: Jakarta Commons Developers List
> Subject: Re: Torque learning curve WAS: RE: Jakarta Persistence
> Framework?
>
>
> On 1/2/02 1:49 PM, "Ted Husted" <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Martin Poeschl wrote:
> >>
> >> i send a copy to the turbine list, so we can discuss on the
> right list ;-)
> >>
> >
> > If the Torque dependancies on Turbine have been removed, perhaps its
> > time to consider transferring Torque et al to the Commons -- then this
> > would be the right list ;-)
>
> Possibly, IMO Torque still has some issues that need to be worked
> out before
> widespread use. Pluggable connection pools, some very strange
> initialization
> patterns have to be removed, and the collection of single RDB's peculiar
> features into one location as they are in a couple now. I also have some
> serious problems with it's mode of usage, Torque primarily being a
> datamodel-centric tool as opposed a persistence layer for an object model.
> Right now the object model produced is really a thin veneer over top the
> datamodel (an object produced for each table) which can certainly
> work in a
> lot of cases but I don't think that's anywhere close to being
> usable in many
> real world situations.
>
> I also feel that Torque is a little out of scope for a commons package and
> the general feeling within the Turbine group is that Torque should
> eventually become its own project when it leaves the Turbine fold.
>
> > As mentioned, I would be happy to help with the packaging and additional
> > documentation, especially if it were distributed through the Commons.
> >
> >
> > -- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com, Fairport NY USA.
> > -- Building Java web applications with Struts.
> > -- Tel +1 585 737-3463.
> > -- Web http://www.husted.com/struts/
> >
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Re: Torque learning curve WAS: RE: Jakarta Persistence Framework?
Posted by Jason van Zyl <jv...@zenplex.com>.
On 1/2/02 1:49 PM, "Ted Husted" <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
> Martin Poeschl wrote:
>>
>> i send a copy to the turbine list, so we can discuss on the right list ;-)
>>
>
> If the Torque dependancies on Turbine have been removed, perhaps its
> time to consider transferring Torque et al to the Commons -- then this
> would be the right list ;-)
Possibly, IMO Torque still has some issues that need to be worked out before
widespread use. Pluggable connection pools, some very strange initialization
patterns have to be removed, and the collection of single RDB's peculiar
features into one location as they are in a couple now. I also have some
serious problems with it's mode of usage, Torque primarily being a
datamodel-centric tool as opposed a persistence layer for an object model.
Right now the object model produced is really a thin veneer over top the
datamodel (an object produced for each table) which can certainly work in a
lot of cases but I don't think that's anywhere close to being usable in many
real world situations.
I also feel that Torque is a little out of scope for a commons package and
the general feeling within the Turbine group is that Torque should
eventually become its own project when it leaves the Turbine fold.
> As mentioned, I would be happy to help with the packaging and additional
> documentation, especially if it were distributed through the Commons.
>
>
> -- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com, Fairport NY USA.
> -- Building Java web applications with Struts.
> -- Tel +1 585 737-3463.
> -- Web http://www.husted.com/struts/
>
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Re: Torque learning curve WAS: RE: Jakarta Persistence Framework?
Posted by Ted Husted <hu...@apache.org>.
Martin Poeschl wrote:
>
> i send a copy to the turbine list, so we can discuss on the right list ;-)
>
If the Torque dependancies on Turbine have been removed, perhaps its
time to consider transferring Torque et al to the Commons -- then this
would be the right list ;-)
As mentioned, I would be happy to help with the packaging and additional
documentation, especially if it were distributed through the Commons.
-- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com, Fairport NY USA.
-- Building Java web applications with Struts.
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Re: Torque learning curve WAS: RE: Jakarta Persistence Framework?
Posted by Martin Poeschl <mp...@marmot.at>.
i send a copy to the turbine list, so we can discuss on the right list ;-)
Ted Husted wrote:
> Thanks, Martin.
>
> Personally, I would say its not so much a documentation issue, as a
> big-picture example issue. I've read the documention, and it looks like
> all the pieces are are there, but I can't see the forest for the trees.
>
> Something I find helpful is to "walk-through" an application. One of the
> first things I did on Struts is do a tour of Craig's example.
>
> http://husted.com/about/scaffolding/example-tour.html
>
> We now bundle this with the example itself in the distribution.
>
> If someone could do a standalone Turbine example in a WAR, I'd be happy
> to do the same here.
i'd be happy to help with the app ;-)
>
> Another early document that I found helpful was a brief but complete
> overview, again to help with the big picture.
>
> http://husted.com/about/scaffolding/overview.htm
>
> If you like, I have a small "article posting" application available.
> Perhaps we could convert this to Torque?
>
> http://husted.com/struts/resources/artimus.zip
i'm converting a swing app i wrote 2 years ago at the moment and it works fine.
if it's finnished i'll take a look at your app
martin
>
>
> -- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com, Fairport NY USA.
> -- Building Java web applications with Struts.
> -- Tel +1 585 737-3463.
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>
>
> Martin Poeschl wrote:
>
>>>Has www.working-dogs.com moved? Is that were Village lives? I don't have
>>>the JAR handy, and the build file wants it. Or is there a WAR for the
>>>testbed someplace?
>>>
>>yes village is now on share.whichever.com
>>you should use the latest version from cvs
>>
>>i'll do some documentation work for torque ... it must be easier to start using it!!
>>
>>martin
>>
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Re: Torque learning curve WAS: RE: Jakarta Persistence Framework?
Posted by Martin Poeschl <mp...@marmot.at>.
i send a copy to the turbine list, so we can discuss on the right list ;-)
Ted Husted wrote:
> Thanks, Martin.
>
> Personally, I would say its not so much a documentation issue, as a
> big-picture example issue. I've read the documention, and it looks like
> all the pieces are are there, but I can't see the forest for the trees.
>
> Something I find helpful is to "walk-through" an application. One of the
> first things I did on Struts is do a tour of Craig's example.
>
> http://husted.com/about/scaffolding/example-tour.html
>
> We now bundle this with the example itself in the distribution.
>
> If someone could do a standalone Turbine example in a WAR, I'd be happy
> to do the same here.
i'd be happy to help with the app ;-)
>
> Another early document that I found helpful was a brief but complete
> overview, again to help with the big picture.
>
> http://husted.com/about/scaffolding/overview.htm
>
> If you like, I have a small "article posting" application available.
> Perhaps we could convert this to Torque?
>
> http://husted.com/struts/resources/artimus.zip
i'm converting a swing app i wrote 2 years ago at the moment and it works fine.
if it's finnished i'll take a look at your app
martin
>
>
> -- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com, Fairport NY USA.
> -- Building Java web applications with Struts.
> -- Tel +1 585 737-3463.
> -- Web http://www.husted.com/struts/
>
>
> Martin Poeschl wrote:
>
>>>Has www.working-dogs.com moved? Is that were Village lives? I don't have
>>>the JAR handy, and the build file wants it. Or is there a WAR for the
>>>testbed someplace?
>>>
>>yes village is now on share.whichever.com
>>you should use the latest version from cvs
>>
>>i'll do some documentation work for torque ... it must be easier to start using it!!
>>
>>martin
>>
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Re: Torque learning curve WAS: RE: Jakarta Persistence Framework?
Posted by Ted Husted <hu...@apache.org>.
Thanks, Martin.
Personally, I would say its not so much a documentation issue, as a
big-picture example issue. I've read the documention, and it looks like
all the pieces are are there, but I can't see the forest for the trees.
Something I find helpful is to "walk-through" an application. One of the
first things I did on Struts is do a tour of Craig's example.
http://husted.com/about/scaffolding/example-tour.html
We now bundle this with the example itself in the distribution.
If someone could do a standalone Turbine example in a WAR, I'd be happy
to do the same here.
Another early document that I found helpful was a brief but complete
overview, again to help with the big picture.
http://husted.com/about/scaffolding/overview.htm
If you like, I have a small "article posting" application available.
Perhaps we could convert this to Torque?
http://husted.com/struts/resources/artimus.zip
-- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com, Fairport NY USA.
-- Building Java web applications with Struts.
-- Tel +1 585 737-3463.
-- Web http://www.husted.com/struts/
Martin Poeschl wrote:
> > Has www.working-dogs.com moved? Is that were Village lives? I don't have
> > the JAR handy, and the build file wants it. Or is there a WAR for the
> > testbed someplace?
>
> yes village is now on share.whichever.com
> you should use the latest version from cvs
>
> i'll do some documentation work for torque ... it must be easier to start using it!!
>
> martin
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Re: Torque learning curve WAS: RE: Jakarta Persistence Framework?
Posted by Martin Poeschl <mp...@marmot.at>.
Ted Husted wrote:
> Martin Poeschl wrote:
>
>>there is a testbed in torque cvs (/src/rttest)) ... it runs all generation tasks and includes a
>>simple app which adds data to the db ...
>>
>
> Has www.working-dogs.com moved? Is that were Village lives? I don't have
> the JAR handy, and the build file wants it. Or is there a WAR for the
> testbed someplace?
yes village is now on share.whichever.com
you should use the latest version from cvs
i'll do some documentation work for torque ... it must be easier to start using it!!
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Re: Torque learning curve WAS: RE: Jakarta Persistence Framework?
Posted by Ted Husted <hu...@apache.org>.
Martin Poeschl wrote:
> there is a testbed in torque cvs (/src/rttest)) ... it runs all generation tasks and includes a
> simple app which adds data to the db ...
Has www.working-dogs.com moved? Is that were Village lives? I don't have
the JAR handy, and the build file wants it. Or is there a WAR for the
testbed someplace?
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Re: Torque learning curve WAS: RE: Jakarta Persistence Framework?
Posted by Martin Poeschl <mp...@marmot.at>.
Ted Husted wrote:
> Jon Scott Stevens wrote:
>
>>Look at Scarab.
>>
>
> I've got the CVS snapshot from 12/31. There are 193 classes.
>
> Which of those should I look at first if my goal is to use Torque and
> Peers in a simple test project, with maybe one table and no security?
>
> I would in fact like to spend some quality time with Scarab, but that's
> outside the scope of simply learning to use Torque and Peers, which is
> what I would really, really like to do first. (I'm quite sincere about
> all this. I just have to be careful about how I spend my time right
> now.)
>
> If anyone has a simple application that they have done using Torque and
> Peers (perhaps when they were learning it themselves) that they can send
> me in confidence, I will be very eager to use as the base of another
> "cleanroom" example that we could make available publically, and include
> a "tour" as I did with the Struts example application. It's obvious that
> there is some great technology here, and I would love to make it more
> accessible to busy developers (and which of us is not one of those?).
there is a testbed in torque cvs (/src/rttest)) ... it runs all generation tasks and includes a
simple app which adds data to the db ...
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Re: Torque learning curve WAS: RE: Jakarta Persistence Framework?
Posted by "Kevin A. Burton" <bu...@openprivacy.org>.
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> > <snip/>
> >
> > http://reptile.openprivacy.org
> >
> > Doesn't use any Turbine code (we don't need any) and uses Torque by itself.
> >
> > The only thing I did was download torque, symlink the 'src' directory to
> > Reptile's 'src', edited build.properties to reflect my install and just ran
> > 'ant'.
> >
> > The only thing you need to do is init Turbine.
> >
> > TurbineConfig config = new TurbineConfig( ".",
> > "webapps/reptile/WEB-INF/etc/TurbineResources.properties" );
> >
> > config.init();
>
> This is not the correct way to use Torque in a stand-alone fashion, look at
> the tests in the decoupled torque for an example of how to do. I've been
> trying to get rid of TurbineConfig forever.
<snip/>
We are running an older version of Torque..
Kevin
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Re: Torque learning curve WAS: RE: Jakarta Persistence Framework?
Posted by Jason van Zyl <jv...@zenplex.com>.
On 1/3/02 12:35 AM, "Kevin A. Burton" <bu...@openprivacy.org> wrote:
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> Ted Husted <hu...@apache.org> writes:
> <snip/>
>
>> If anyone has a simple application that they have done using Torque and
>> Peers (perhaps when they were learning it themselves) that they can send
>> me in confidence, I will be very eager to use as the base of another
>> "cleanroom" example that we could make available publically, and include
>> a "tour" as I did with the Struts example application.
>
> <snip/>
>
> http://reptile.openprivacy.org
>
> Doesn't use any Turbine code (we don't need any) and uses Torque by itself.
>
> The only thing I did was download torque, symlink the 'src' directory to
> Reptile's 'src', edited build.properties to reflect my install and just ran
> 'ant'.
>
> The only thing you need to do is init Turbine.
>
> TurbineConfig config = new TurbineConfig( ".",
> "webapps/reptile/WEB-INF/etc/TurbineResources.properties" );
>
> config.init();
This is not the correct way to use Torque in a stand-alone fashion, look at
the tests in the decoupled torque for an example of how to do. I've been
trying to get rid of TurbineConfig forever.
> Have fun! :)
>
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Re: Torque learning curve WAS: RE: Jakarta Persistence Framework?
Posted by "Kevin A. Burton" <bu...@openprivacy.org>.
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<snip/>
> If anyone has a simple application that they have done using Torque and
> Peers (perhaps when they were learning it themselves) that they can send
> me in confidence, I will be very eager to use as the base of another
> "cleanroom" example that we could make available publically, and include
> a "tour" as I did with the Struts example application.
<snip/>
http://reptile.openprivacy.org
Doesn't use any Turbine code (we don't need any) and uses Torque by itself.
The only thing I did was download torque, symlink the 'src' directory to
Reptile's 'src', edited build.properties to reflect my install and just ran
'ant'.
The only thing you need to do is init Turbine.
TurbineConfig config = new TurbineConfig( ".", "webapps/reptile/WEB-INF/etc/TurbineResources.properties" );
config.init();
Have fun! :)
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Re: Torque learning curve WAS: RE: Jakarta Persistence Framework?
Posted by Ted Husted <hu...@apache.org>.
Jon Scott Stevens wrote:
> Look at Scarab.
I've got the CVS snapshot from 12/31. There are 193 classes.
Which of those should I look at first if my goal is to use Torque and
Peers in a simple test project, with maybe one table and no security?
I would in fact like to spend some quality time with Scarab, but that's
outside the scope of simply learning to use Torque and Peers, which is
what I would really, really like to do first. (I'm quite sincere about
all this. I just have to be careful about how I spend my time right
now.)
If anyone has a simple application that they have done using Torque and
Peers (perhaps when they were learning it themselves) that they can send
me in confidence, I will be very eager to use as the base of another
"cleanroom" example that we could make available publically, and include
a "tour" as I did with the Struts example application. It's obvious that
there is some great technology here, and I would love to make it more
accessible to busy developers (and which of us is not one of those?).
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Re: Torque learning curve WAS: RE: Jakarta Persistence Framework?
Posted by Jon Scott Stevens <jo...@latchkey.com>.
on 12/31/01 10:06 AM, "Nicholas Lesiecki" <ni...@eblox.com> wrote:
> Amen on the learning curve. Erik Hatcher recommended Torque to me, and I
> tried checking it out...I had no idea where to start.
Look at Scarab.
-jon
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