[clay] Clay: possible subproject of Tiles?

[Antonio Petrelli <an...@gmail.com>]

Hi all (and in particular Gary VanMatre).
Now that Shale is being dismantled, I think that Clay could live as a
subproject of Tiles, since its primary goal is to work with templates.
I think that both projects could benefit from each other, though Clay
is tightly connected to JSF.

Thoughts?
Antonio

Re: [clay] Clay: possible subproject of Tiles?

[Antonio Petrelli <an...@gmail.com>]

2008/1/14, Wendy Smoak <ws...@gmail.com>:
> As I responded
> there (not realizing this was cross posted)

My fault, sorry, will never do it again :-)
This was a bad way to let the Tiles developers know what was I thinking.

Antonio

Re: [clay] Clay: possible subproject of Tiles?

[Wendy Smoak <ws...@gmail.com>]

On Jan 14, 2008 10:33 AM, Stephen More <st...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 14, 2008 10:59 AM, Antonio Petrelli  wrote:
> > Now that Shale is being dismantled,
>
> Where can I read more about the dismantling of Shale ?

Just as decisions about Tiles are made on this list, Shale has a
development list where such things are discussed.  As I responded
there (not realizing this was cross posted) I don't actually think
Shale is going anywhere, not least because it would be far more work
than just leaving it where it is. :)

http://www.nabble.com/Shale---Dev-f15682.html

-- 
Wendy

Re: [clay] Clay: possible subproject of Tiles?

[Stephen More <st...@gmail.com>]

On Jan 14, 2008 10:59 AM, Antonio Petrelli  wrote:
> Now that Shale is being dismantled,

Where can I read more about the dismantling of Shale ?

-Thanks
Steve More

Re: [clay] Clay: possible subproject of Tiles?

[Rahul Akolkar <ra...@gmail.com>]

On 1/15/08, Ryan Wynn <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 14, 2008 11:33 AM, Wendy Smoak <ws...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Jan 14, 2008 8:59 AM, Antonio Petrelli <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hi all (and in particular Gary VanMatre).
> > > Now that Shale is being dismantled, I think that Clay could live as a
> > > subproject of Tiles, since its primary goal is to work with templates.
> > > I think that both projects could benefit from each other, though Clay
> > > is tightly connected to JSF.
> >
> > I actually don't think Shale is going anywhere... what seems more
> > likely is that we'll "retire" bits of it (like the Tiles integration)
> > in favor of other things that already exist, and _maybe_ split up the
> > distribution so things can be released separately as people are
> > interested in them.
>
>
> For what its worth, I am very interested in the future of clay as I
> have a lot of work invested in it.  I am willing do whatever it takes
> to keep it around.
>
<snip/>

Thanks. As you may have noticed in other threads, we are slowly (given
some recent distractions) moving towards a new release. That being the
case, it would be very helpful if you could try the latest code
(specifically Clay, and whatever other modules interest you) in the
active release branches [1],[2] and give us feedback. Such feedback is
one of the important factors that will be used to determine the
quality of the release, for example. Thanks again for your interest.

-Rahul

[1] http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/shale/framework/trunk/
[2] http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/shale/framework/branches/SHALE_1_0_X/

Re: [clay] Clay: possible subproject of Tiles?

[Ryan Wynn <bi...@gmail.com>]

On Jan 14, 2008 11:33 AM, Wendy Smoak <ws...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Jan 14, 2008 8:59 AM, Antonio Petrelli <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi all (and in particular Gary VanMatre).
> > Now that Shale is being dismantled, I think that Clay could live as a
> > subproject of Tiles, since its primary goal is to work with templates.
> > I think that both projects could benefit from each other, though Clay
> > is tightly connected to JSF.
>
> I actually don't think Shale is going anywhere... what seems more
> likely is that we'll "retire" bits of it (like the Tiles integration)
> in favor of other things that already exist, and _maybe_ split up the
> distribution so things can be released separately as people are
> interested in them.


For what its worth, I am very interested in the future of clay as I
have a lot of work invested in it.  I am willing do whatever it takes
to keep it around.

Ryan

>
> --
> Wendy
>

Re: [clay] Clay: possible subproject of Tiles?

[Wendy Smoak <ws...@gmail.com>]

On Jan 14, 2008 8:59 AM, Antonio Petrelli <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all (and in particular Gary VanMatre).
> Now that Shale is being dismantled, I think that Clay could live as a
> subproject of Tiles, since its primary goal is to work with templates.
> I think that both projects could benefit from each other, though Clay
> is tightly connected to JSF.

I actually don't think Shale is going anywhere... what seems more
likely is that we'll "retire" bits of it (like the Tiles integration)
in favor of other things that already exist, and _maybe_ split up the
distribution so things can be released separately as people are
interested in them.

-- 
Wendy