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Posted to users@cloudstack.apache.org by Matthew Midgett <cl...@trick-solutions.com.INVALID> on 2014/11/03 16:09:32 UTC
ACS 4.4.0 - Xenserver OS Templates
How is everyone setting up their templates for different size hard drives?
Has anyone heard when root disk resize will be available for xen? It would
be far nicer to have 5GB templates and then resize the disk when the
customer provisions one. Is there any work around ATM for linux and freebsd
os?
Matthew Midgett
Re: ACS 4.4.0 - Xenserver OS Templates
Posted by Nux! <nu...@li.nux.ro>.
Andrija,
Thanks for the offer. I already have such templates at $work, but for obvious reasons we can't publish them on openvm.eu. :-)
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www.nux.ro
----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andrija Panic" <an...@gmail.com>
> To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
> Sent: Monday, 3 November, 2014 16:42:38
> Subject: Re: ACS 4.4.0 - Xenserver OS Templates
> @Nux
>
> Not sure if it is allowed - but I can provide you with Windows Server 2008
> and 2012 R2 templateas, free trial versions from Technet/MSDN, not
> registered (no serial etc), syspreped, with VirtIO drivers and Password
> reset features - updated few months ago (Windows updates)... Vanilla in
> general, except for password reset feature is working ( .msi file installed
> for password reset feature)
>
> Let me know if you are interested...
>
> On 3 November 2014 17:30, Matthew Midgett <
> cloudstck@trick-solutions.com.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Well not all of us have 10Gb networking and when copying the templates
>> from secondary to primary the smaller the disk the faster it get to the
>> customer. Resizing the disk on my san will be a lot faster than on my nfs
>> server. I'm not sure why no one is really interested in it. I mean one
>> template for all HD sizes sounds great as I don't have to create and
>> maintain lots of different sizes. Also I would be able to bill by resource
>> usages on the HD's just like ram and cpu and network. My Cloudstack is
>> working just fine and we are ready to deploy but creating 64 different
>> images to me doesn't sound fun.
>>
>> Is password reset and hostname set working with these templates?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Nux! [mailto:nux@li.nux.ro]
>> Sent: Monday, November 03, 2014 10:27 AM
>> To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: ACS 4.4.0 - Xenserver OS Templates
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Check dl.openvm.eu for templates, they're mostly 8GB in size, with the
>> hope root resize will become available across all HVs; though people do not
>> seem very interested in it.
>> What work around do you mean for linux and freebsd?
>>
>> --
>> Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology!
>>
>> Nux!
>> www.nux.ro
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Matthew Midgett" <cl...@trick-solutions.com.INVALID>
>> > To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
>> > Sent: Monday, 3 November, 2014 15:09:32
>> > Subject: ACS 4.4.0 - Xenserver OS Templates
>>
>> > How is everyone setting up their templates for different size hard
>> drives?
>> > Has anyone heard when root disk resize will be available for xen? It
>> > would be far nicer to have 5GB templates and then resize the disk when
>> > the customer provisions one. Is there any work around ATM for linux
>> > and freebsd os?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Matthew Midgett
>>
>>
>
>
> --
>
> Andrija Panić
> --------------------------------------
> http://admintweets.com
> --------------------------------------
Re: ACS 4.4.0 - Xenserver OS Templates
Posted by Andrija Panic <an...@gmail.com>.
Hi Ian,
we are not using any advanced way to do stuff - we do not have lot of
Windows machines, and templates are updated in few months intervals - I
deploy 2 VMs, do the updates, convert back to templates - not the optimal
way, but since we do not have many templates (only 2 Windows ones) - this
aproach works fine for us...
in general, you have installed Window VM, do the sysprep /generalize and
that's it...
On 3 November 2014 18:24, Ian Duffy <ia...@ianduffy.ie> wrote:
> @Andrija
>
> Just out of interest, how are you handling the update stage?
> Do you install a copy of windows server and let it update naturally from
> windows update or an internal WSUS server?
>
> Or are you using DISM and integrating them into the original WIM?
>
> On 3 November 2014 16:42, Andrija Panic <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > @Nux
> >
> > Not sure if it is allowed - but I can provide you with Windows Server
> 2008
> > and 2012 R2 templateas, free trial versions from Technet/MSDN, not
> > registered (no serial etc), syspreped, with VirtIO drivers and Password
> > reset features - updated few months ago (Windows updates)... Vanilla in
> > general, except for password reset feature is working ( .msi file
> installed
> > for password reset feature)
> >
> > Let me know if you are interested...
> >
> > On 3 November 2014 17:30, Matthew Midgett <
> > cloudstck@trick-solutions.com.invalid> wrote:
> >
> > > Well not all of us have 10Gb networking and when copying the templates
> > > from secondary to primary the smaller the disk the faster it get to the
> > > customer. Resizing the disk on my san will be a lot faster than on my
> nfs
> > > server. I'm not sure why no one is really interested in it. I mean one
> > > template for all HD sizes sounds great as I don't have to create and
> > > maintain lots of different sizes. Also I would be able to bill by
> > resource
> > > usages on the HD's just like ram and cpu and network. My Cloudstack is
> > > working just fine and we are ready to deploy but creating 64 different
> > > images to me doesn't sound fun.
> > >
> > > Is password reset and hostname set working with these templates?
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Nux! [mailto:nux@li.nux.ro]
> > > Sent: Monday, November 03, 2014 10:27 AM
> > > To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
> > > Subject: Re: ACS 4.4.0 - Xenserver OS Templates
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > Check dl.openvm.eu for templates, they're mostly 8GB in size, with the
> > > hope root resize will become available across all HVs; though people do
> > not
> > > seem very interested in it.
> > > What work around do you mean for linux and freebsd?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology!
> > >
> > > Nux!
> > > www.nux.ro
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Matthew Midgett" <cl...@trick-solutions.com.INVALID>
> > > > To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
> > > > Sent: Monday, 3 November, 2014 15:09:32
> > > > Subject: ACS 4.4.0 - Xenserver OS Templates
> > >
> > > > How is everyone setting up their templates for different size hard
> > > drives?
> > > > Has anyone heard when root disk resize will be available for xen? It
> > > > would be far nicer to have 5GB templates and then resize the disk
> when
> > > > the customer provisions one. Is there any work around ATM for linux
> > > > and freebsd os?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Matthew Midgett
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Andrija Panić
> > --------------------------------------
> > http://admintweets.com
> > --------------------------------------
> >
>
--
Andrija Panić
--------------------------------------
http://admintweets.com
--------------------------------------
Re: ACS 4.4.0 - Xenserver OS Templates
Posted by Ian Duffy <ia...@ianduffy.ie>.
@Andrija
Just out of interest, how are you handling the update stage?
Do you install a copy of windows server and let it update naturally from
windows update or an internal WSUS server?
Or are you using DISM and integrating them into the original WIM?
On 3 November 2014 16:42, Andrija Panic <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
> @Nux
>
> Not sure if it is allowed - but I can provide you with Windows Server 2008
> and 2012 R2 templateas, free trial versions from Technet/MSDN, not
> registered (no serial etc), syspreped, with VirtIO drivers and Password
> reset features - updated few months ago (Windows updates)... Vanilla in
> general, except for password reset feature is working ( .msi file installed
> for password reset feature)
>
> Let me know if you are interested...
>
> On 3 November 2014 17:30, Matthew Midgett <
> cloudstck@trick-solutions.com.invalid> wrote:
>
> > Well not all of us have 10Gb networking and when copying the templates
> > from secondary to primary the smaller the disk the faster it get to the
> > customer. Resizing the disk on my san will be a lot faster than on my nfs
> > server. I'm not sure why no one is really interested in it. I mean one
> > template for all HD sizes sounds great as I don't have to create and
> > maintain lots of different sizes. Also I would be able to bill by
> resource
> > usages on the HD's just like ram and cpu and network. My Cloudstack is
> > working just fine and we are ready to deploy but creating 64 different
> > images to me doesn't sound fun.
> >
> > Is password reset and hostname set working with these templates?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Nux! [mailto:nux@li.nux.ro]
> > Sent: Monday, November 03, 2014 10:27 AM
> > To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: ACS 4.4.0 - Xenserver OS Templates
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > Check dl.openvm.eu for templates, they're mostly 8GB in size, with the
> > hope root resize will become available across all HVs; though people do
> not
> > seem very interested in it.
> > What work around do you mean for linux and freebsd?
> >
> > --
> > Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology!
> >
> > Nux!
> > www.nux.ro
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Matthew Midgett" <cl...@trick-solutions.com.INVALID>
> > > To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
> > > Sent: Monday, 3 November, 2014 15:09:32
> > > Subject: ACS 4.4.0 - Xenserver OS Templates
> >
> > > How is everyone setting up their templates for different size hard
> > drives?
> > > Has anyone heard when root disk resize will be available for xen? It
> > > would be far nicer to have 5GB templates and then resize the disk when
> > > the customer provisions one. Is there any work around ATM for linux
> > > and freebsd os?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Matthew Midgett
> >
> >
>
>
> --
>
> Andrija Panić
> --------------------------------------
> http://admintweets.com
> --------------------------------------
>
Re: ACS 4.4.0 - Xenserver OS Templates
Posted by Andrija Panic <an...@gmail.com>.
@Nux
Not sure if it is allowed - but I can provide you with Windows Server 2008
and 2012 R2 templateas, free trial versions from Technet/MSDN, not
registered (no serial etc), syspreped, with VirtIO drivers and Password
reset features - updated few months ago (Windows updates)... Vanilla in
general, except for password reset feature is working ( .msi file installed
for password reset feature)
Let me know if you are interested...
On 3 November 2014 17:30, Matthew Midgett <
cloudstck@trick-solutions.com.invalid> wrote:
> Well not all of us have 10Gb networking and when copying the templates
> from secondary to primary the smaller the disk the faster it get to the
> customer. Resizing the disk on my san will be a lot faster than on my nfs
> server. I'm not sure why no one is really interested in it. I mean one
> template for all HD sizes sounds great as I don't have to create and
> maintain lots of different sizes. Also I would be able to bill by resource
> usages on the HD's just like ram and cpu and network. My Cloudstack is
> working just fine and we are ready to deploy but creating 64 different
> images to me doesn't sound fun.
>
> Is password reset and hostname set working with these templates?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nux! [mailto:nux@li.nux.ro]
> Sent: Monday, November 03, 2014 10:27 AM
> To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: Re: ACS 4.4.0 - Xenserver OS Templates
>
> Hello,
>
> Check dl.openvm.eu for templates, they're mostly 8GB in size, with the
> hope root resize will become available across all HVs; though people do not
> seem very interested in it.
> What work around do you mean for linux and freebsd?
>
> --
> Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology!
>
> Nux!
> www.nux.ro
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Matthew Midgett" <cl...@trick-solutions.com.INVALID>
> > To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
> > Sent: Monday, 3 November, 2014 15:09:32
> > Subject: ACS 4.4.0 - Xenserver OS Templates
>
> > How is everyone setting up their templates for different size hard
> drives?
> > Has anyone heard when root disk resize will be available for xen? It
> > would be far nicer to have 5GB templates and then resize the disk when
> > the customer provisions one. Is there any work around ATM for linux
> > and freebsd os?
> >
> >
> >
> > Matthew Midgett
>
>
--
Andrija Panić
--------------------------------------
http://admintweets.com
--------------------------------------
Re: ACS 4.4.0 - Xenserver OS Templates
Posted by Nux! <nu...@li.nux.ro>.
The openvm templates all come with the password script and cloud-ini, but they are primarily tested on KVM, would love feedback from other HVs.
Re interest in self-resizable stuff, the main explanation/excuse for it around here is that that's now how AWS and other big clouds do it.
Until 4.4 we were struggling as well with multiple templates; see my initial issue https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CLOUDSTACK-6181
I can't thank Marcus, Wido and Mike enough for this. Thanks guys! :)
--
Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology!
Nux!
www.nux.ro
----- Original Message -----
> From: "Matthew Midgett" <cl...@trick-solutions.com.INVALID>
> To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
> Sent: Monday, 3 November, 2014 16:30:01
> Subject: RE: ACS 4.4.0 - Xenserver OS Templates
> Well not all of us have 10Gb networking and when copying the templates from
> secondary to primary the smaller the disk the faster it get to the customer.
> Resizing the disk on my san will be a lot faster than on my nfs server. I'm not
> sure why no one is really interested in it. I mean one template for all HD
> sizes sounds great as I don't have to create and maintain lots of different
> sizes. Also I would be able to bill by resource usages on the HD's just like
> ram and cpu and network. My Cloudstack is working just fine and we are ready to
> deploy but creating 64 different images to me doesn't sound fun.
>
> Is password reset and hostname set working with these templates?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nux! [mailto:nux@li.nux.ro]
> Sent: Monday, November 03, 2014 10:27 AM
> To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: Re: ACS 4.4.0 - Xenserver OS Templates
>
> Hello,
>
> Check dl.openvm.eu for templates, they're mostly 8GB in size, with the hope root
> resize will become available across all HVs; though people do not seem very
> interested in it.
> What work around do you mean for linux and freebsd?
>
> --
> Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology!
>
> Nux!
> www.nux.ro
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Matthew Midgett" <cl...@trick-solutions.com.INVALID>
>> To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
>> Sent: Monday, 3 November, 2014 15:09:32
>> Subject: ACS 4.4.0 - Xenserver OS Templates
>
>> How is everyone setting up their templates for different size hard drives?
>> Has anyone heard when root disk resize will be available for xen? It
>> would be far nicer to have 5GB templates and then resize the disk when
>> the customer provisions one. Is there any work around ATM for linux
>> and freebsd os?
>>
>>
>>
> > Matthew Midgett
RE: ACS 4.4.0 - Xenserver OS Templates
Posted by Matthew Midgett <cl...@trick-solutions.com.INVALID>.
Well not all of us have 10Gb networking and when copying the templates from secondary to primary the smaller the disk the faster it get to the customer. Resizing the disk on my san will be a lot faster than on my nfs server. I'm not sure why no one is really interested in it. I mean one template for all HD sizes sounds great as I don't have to create and maintain lots of different sizes. Also I would be able to bill by resource usages on the HD's just like ram and cpu and network. My Cloudstack is working just fine and we are ready to deploy but creating 64 different images to me doesn't sound fun.
Is password reset and hostname set working with these templates?
-----Original Message-----
From: Nux! [mailto:nux@li.nux.ro]
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2014 10:27 AM
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: Re: ACS 4.4.0 - Xenserver OS Templates
Hello,
Check dl.openvm.eu for templates, they're mostly 8GB in size, with the hope root resize will become available across all HVs; though people do not seem very interested in it.
What work around do you mean for linux and freebsd?
--
Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology!
Nux!
www.nux.ro
----- Original Message -----
> From: "Matthew Midgett" <cl...@trick-solutions.com.INVALID>
> To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
> Sent: Monday, 3 November, 2014 15:09:32
> Subject: ACS 4.4.0 - Xenserver OS Templates
> How is everyone setting up their templates for different size hard drives?
> Has anyone heard when root disk resize will be available for xen? It
> would be far nicer to have 5GB templates and then resize the disk when
> the customer provisions one. Is there any work around ATM for linux
> and freebsd os?
>
>
>
> Matthew Midgett
RE: ACS 4.4.0 - Xenserver OS Templates
Posted by Matthew Midgett <cl...@trick-solutions.com.INVALID>.
What I mean for the work around is the scrips like you run on a raspbury pi to resize its sdcard on first boot. Xenserver API supports the resize just Cloudstack doesn't right?
-----Original Message-----
From: Nux! [mailto:nux@li.nux.ro]
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2014 10:27 AM
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: Re: ACS 4.4.0 - Xenserver OS Templates
Hello,
Check dl.openvm.eu for templates, they're mostly 8GB in size, with the hope root resize will become available across all HVs; though people do not seem very interested in it.
What work around do you mean for linux and freebsd?
--
Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology!
Nux!
www.nux.ro
----- Original Message -----
> From: "Matthew Midgett" <cl...@trick-solutions.com.INVALID>
> To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
> Sent: Monday, 3 November, 2014 15:09:32
> Subject: ACS 4.4.0 - Xenserver OS Templates
> How is everyone setting up their templates for different size hard drives?
> Has anyone heard when root disk resize will be available for xen? It
> would be far nicer to have 5GB templates and then resize the disk when
> the customer provisions one. Is there any work around ATM for linux
> and freebsd os?
>
>
>
> Matthew Midgett
Re: ACS 4.4.0 - Xenserver OS Templates
Posted by Nux! <nu...@li.nux.ro>.
Hello,
Check dl.openvm.eu for templates, they're mostly 8GB in size, with the hope root resize will become available across all HVs; though people do not seem very interested in it.
What work around do you mean for linux and freebsd?
--
Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology!
Nux!
www.nux.ro
----- Original Message -----
> From: "Matthew Midgett" <cl...@trick-solutions.com.INVALID>
> To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
> Sent: Monday, 3 November, 2014 15:09:32
> Subject: ACS 4.4.0 - Xenserver OS Templates
> How is everyone setting up their templates for different size hard drives?
> Has anyone heard when root disk resize will be available for xen? It would
> be far nicer to have 5GB templates and then resize the disk when the
> customer provisions one. Is there any work around ATM for linux and freebsd
> os?
>
>
>
> Matthew Midgett