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[all] [VFS] Where are the committers?
Hello,
It looks as though the committers for VFS are currently busy working on
other projects. I would like to propose that a vote is held to admit
Mario Ivankovits as a Commons-Sandbox committer.
Mario has been active on the developer list for over a year and has
submitted patches for FTP and VFS. More recently, Mario has spent
some time setting up a test server for VFS.
http://www.mail-archive.com/commons-dev@jakarta.apache.org/msg38267.html
http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=27776
http://www.mail-archive.com/commons-dev@jakarta.apache.org/msg38413.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/commons-dev@jakarta.apache.org/msg38412.html
There has been increasing interest in the VFS project over the last few
months, and it needs someone to be focusing on it. Mario has expressed an
interest in moving VFS forward and, I believe, is ready.
However, I am not a committer myself, so is there anyone who would be
willing to sponsor this proposal and send out the appropriate "VOTE"
email?
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Re: [VOTE (2)] Mario Ivankovits as a Commons committer
Posted by Stephen Colebourne <sc...@btopenworld.com>.
Mario as full commons committer
+1
Stephen
(politics is boring)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dirk Verbeeck" <di...@pandora.be>
> I propose to make Mario a full jakarta-commons committer.
> He contributed to the VFS component in the sandbox but also to the net
> component in commons proper.
> Mario did also some bugfixing on tomcat.
>
> See mailing list archive & bugzilla 7831,27858,27776,...? for details.
>
> here is my +1
>
> -- Dirk
>
>
> Stephen Colebourne wrote:
>
> > Well, I'll call a vote and see what happens.
> >
> > [ ] +1 Let Mario commit in the sandbox
> > [ ] 0 Not bothered
> > [ ] -1 Not at this time, because.....
> >
> > Stephen
>
>
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Re: [VOTE RESULT] Mario Ivankovits as a Commons-Sandbox committer
Posted by Stephen Colebourne <sc...@btopenworld.com>.
Mario,
your private email reject my mails. Please add
scolebourne
btopenworld
com
And yes, you should fax your CLA, and send user name and contact email
address to me/the list.
Stephen
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stephen Colebourne" <sc...@btopenworld.com>
> Based on this email and subsequant replies, Mario is approved as a full
> commons committer (ignore subject line).
>
> Mario,
> Please read:
> http://www.apache.org/dev/
> http://www.apache.org/dev/committers.html
>
> and obtain and read in detail:
> http://www.apache.org/licenses/#clas
> (read carefully and check with your HR/legal department that you can sign)
>
> Once the vote is complete, fax in a copy. Be warned setting up accounts
> takes some time ;-)
>
> Stephen
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dirk Verbeeck" <di...@pandora.be>
> > I propose to make Mario a full jakarta-commons committer.
> > He contributed to the VFS component in the sandbox but also to the net
> > component in commons proper.
> > Mario did also some bugfixing on tomcat.
> >
> > See mailing list archive & bugzilla 7831,27858,27776,...? for details.
> >
> > here is my +1
> >
> > -- Dirk
> >
> >
> > Stephen Colebourne wrote:
> >
> > > Well, I'll call a vote and see what happens.
> > >
> > > [ ] +1 Let Mario commit in the sandbox
> > > [ ] 0 Not bothered
> > > [ ] -1 Not at this time, because.....
> > >
> > > Stephen
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [VOTE RESULT] Mario Ivankovits
Posted by Stephen Colebourne <sc...@btopenworld.com>.
Done
Stephen
----- Original Message -----
From: "Noel J. Bergman" <no...@devtech.com>
To: "Jakarta Commons Developers List" <co...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 5:46 PM
Subject: RE: [VOTE RESULT] Mario Ivankovits
> Stephen Colebourne wrote:
> > Mario is approved as a full commons committer
>
> His CLA was recorded today. Please follow up as per
> http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#newcommitter
>
> --- Noel
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RE: [VOTE RESULT] Mario Ivankovits
Posted by "Noel J. Bergman" <no...@devtech.com>.
Stephen Colebourne wrote:
> Mario is approved as a full commons committer
His CLA was recorded today. Please follow up as per
http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#newcommitter
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Re: [VOTE RESULT] Mario Ivankovits as a Commons-Sandbox committer
Posted by Stephen Colebourne <sc...@btopenworld.com>.
Based on this email and subsequant replies, Mario is approved as a full
commons committer (ignore subject line).
Mario,
Please read:
http://www.apache.org/dev/
http://www.apache.org/dev/committers.html
and obtain and read in detail:
http://www.apache.org/licenses/#clas
(read carefully and check with your HR/legal department that you can sign)
Once the vote is complete, fax in a copy. Be warned setting up accounts
takes some time ;-)
Stephen
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dirk Verbeeck" <di...@pandora.be>
> I propose to make Mario a full jakarta-commons committer.
> He contributed to the VFS component in the sandbox but also to the net
> component in commons proper.
> Mario did also some bugfixing on tomcat.
>
> See mailing list archive & bugzilla 7831,27858,27776,...? for details.
>
> here is my +1
>
> -- Dirk
>
>
> Stephen Colebourne wrote:
>
> > Well, I'll call a vote and see what happens.
> >
> > [ ] +1 Let Mario commit in the sandbox
> > [ ] 0 Not bothered
> > [ ] -1 Not at this time, because.....
> >
> > Stephen
>
>
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Re: [VOTE] Mario Ivankovits as a Commons-Sandbox committer
Posted by di...@multitask.com.au.
Dirk Verbeeck <di...@pandora.be> wrote on 02/04/2004 08:59:31 AM:
> I propose to make Mario a full jakarta-commons committer.
> He contributed to the VFS component in the sandbox but also to the net
> component in commons proper.
> Mario did also some bugfixing on tomcat.
>
> See mailing list archive & bugzilla 7831,27858,27776,...? for details.
>
> here is my +1
And mine: +1.
--
dIon Gillard, Multitask Consulting
Re: [VOTE] Mario Ivankovits as a Commons-Sandbox committer
Posted by Henri Yandell <ba...@generationjava.com>.
+1 from me. The sandbox has good oversight by the rest of the Commons
developers [who have time to check email anyway....sorry, been busy :( ]
and anyone who is working hard to help a slumbering project deserves a
chance to do so.
It is important that this doesn't become a nice backdoor way to get access
to the system, but as long as Mario has contributed patches and/or time to
the project of enough quantity to impress us, he should be allowed to
join.
Hen
On Fri, 2 Apr 2004, Dirk Verbeeck wrote:
> I propose to make Mario a full jakarta-commons committer.
> He contributed to the VFS component in the sandbox but also to the net
> component in commons proper.
> Mario did also some bugfixing on tomcat.
>
> See mailing list archive & bugzilla 7831,27858,27776,...? for details.
>
> here is my +1
>
> -- Dirk
>
>
> Stephen Colebourne wrote:
>
> > Well, I'll call a vote and see what happens.
> >
> > [ ] +1 Let Mario commit in the sandbox
> > [ ] 0 Not bothered
> > [ ] -1 Not at this time, because.....
> >
> > Stephen
>
>
>
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RE: [VOTE] Mario Ivankovits as a Commons-Sandbox committer
Posted by "Noel J. Bergman" <no...@devtech.com>.
> I propose to make Mario a full jakarta-commons committer.
+1
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Re: [VOTE] Mario Ivankovits as a Commons-Sandbox committer
Posted by Dirk Verbeeck <di...@pandora.be>.
I propose to make Mario a full jakarta-commons committer.
He contributed to the VFS component in the sandbox but also to the net
component in commons proper.
Mario did also some bugfixing on tomcat.
See mailing list archive & bugzilla 7831,27858,27776,...? for details.
here is my +1
-- Dirk
Stephen Colebourne wrote:
> Well, I'll call a vote and see what happens.
>
> [ ] +1 Let Mario commit in the sandbox
> [ ] 0 Not bothered
> [ ] -1 Not at this time, because.....
>
> Stephen
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Re: [VOTE] Mario Ivankovits as a Commons-Sandbox committer
Posted by Stephen Colebourne <sc...@btopenworld.com>.
[X] +1 Let Mario commit in the sandbox
[ ] 0 Not bothered
[ ] -1 Not at this time, because.....
Stephen
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Re: Comment on [VOTE] Mario Ivankovits as a Commons-Sandbox committer
Posted by Stephen Colebourne <sc...@btopenworld.com>.
PMC replied:
"No, it's a commons rule IIRC. The Jakarta PMC has no such rule."
However, the vote for Mario as a full commons committers seems to be
passing.
Stephen
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stephen Colebourne" <sc...@btopenworld.com>
> Question asked on PMC. No comment as yet. Will inform further in a few
days.
>
> Stephen
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "robert burrell donkin" <ro...@blueyonder.co.uk>
> > i'm not interested into getting into arguments about ASF politics again
> > so consider this veto withdrawn. i'd like to leave this decision to
> > others.
> >
> > - robert
> >
> > On 1 Apr 2004, at 21:53, robert burrell donkin wrote:
> >
> > > -1
> > >
> > > IMO this vote exceeds our authority
> > >
> > > - robert
> > >
> > > On 1 Apr 2004, at 21:30, Stephen Colebourne wrote:
> > >
> > >> Well, I'll call a vote and see what happens.
> > >>
> > >> [ ] +1 Let Mario commit in the sandbox
> > >> [ ] 0 Not bothered
> > >> [ ] -1 Not at this time, because.....
> > >>
> > >> Stephen
> > >>
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "Michael Davey" <Mi...@coderage.org>
> > >>> It looks as though the committers for VFS are currently busy working
> > >>> on
> > >>> other projects. I would like to propose that a vote is held to
admit
> > >>> Mario Ivankovits as a Commons-Sandbox committer.
> > >>>
> > >>> Mario has been active on the developer list for over a year and has
> > >>> submitted patches for FTP and VFS. More recently, Mario has spent
> > >>> some time setting up a test server for VFS.
> > >>>
> > >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/commons-dev@jakarta.apache.org/
> > >>> msg38267.html
> > >>> http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=27776
> > >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/commons-dev@jakarta.apache.org/
> > >>> msg38413.html
> > >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/commons-dev@jakarta.apache.org/
> > >>> msg38412.html
> > >>>
> > >>> There has been increasing interest in the VFS project over the last
> > >>> few
> > >>> months, and it needs someone to be focusing on it. Mario has
> > >>> expressed an
> > >>> interest in moving VFS forward and, I believe, is ready.
> > >>>
> > >>> However, I am not a committer myself, so is there anyone who would
be
> > >>> willing to sponsor this proposal and send out the appropriate "VOTE"
> > >>> email?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
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Re: Comment on [VOTE] Mario Ivankovits as a Commons-Sandbox committer
Posted by Stephen Colebourne <sc...@btopenworld.com>.
Question asked on PMC. No comment as yet. Will inform further in a few days.
Stephen
----- Original Message -----
From: "robert burrell donkin" <ro...@blueyonder.co.uk>
> i'm not interested into getting into arguments about ASF politics again
> so consider this veto withdrawn. i'd like to leave this decision to
> others.
>
> - robert
>
> On 1 Apr 2004, at 21:53, robert burrell donkin wrote:
>
> > -1
> >
> > IMO this vote exceeds our authority
> >
> > - robert
> >
> > On 1 Apr 2004, at 21:30, Stephen Colebourne wrote:
> >
> >> Well, I'll call a vote and see what happens.
> >>
> >> [ ] +1 Let Mario commit in the sandbox
> >> [ ] 0 Not bothered
> >> [ ] -1 Not at this time, because.....
> >>
> >> Stephen
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Michael Davey" <Mi...@coderage.org>
> >>> It looks as though the committers for VFS are currently busy working
> >>> on
> >>> other projects. I would like to propose that a vote is held to admit
> >>> Mario Ivankovits as a Commons-Sandbox committer.
> >>>
> >>> Mario has been active on the developer list for over a year and has
> >>> submitted patches for FTP and VFS. More recently, Mario has spent
> >>> some time setting up a test server for VFS.
> >>>
> >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/commons-dev@jakarta.apache.org/
> >>> msg38267.html
> >>> http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=27776
> >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/commons-dev@jakarta.apache.org/
> >>> msg38413.html
> >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/commons-dev@jakarta.apache.org/
> >>> msg38412.html
> >>>
> >>> There has been increasing interest in the VFS project over the last
> >>> few
> >>> months, and it needs someone to be focusing on it. Mario has
> >>> expressed an
> >>> interest in moving VFS forward and, I believe, is ready.
> >>>
> >>> However, I am not a committer myself, so is there anyone who would be
> >>> willing to sponsor this proposal and send out the appropriate "VOTE"
> >>> email?
> >>
> >>
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Re: [VOTE] Mario Ivankovits as a Commons-Sandbox committer
Posted by robert burrell donkin <ro...@blueyonder.co.uk>.
i'm not interested into getting into arguments about ASF politics again
so consider this veto withdrawn. i'd like to leave this decision to
others.
- robert
On 1 Apr 2004, at 21:53, robert burrell donkin wrote:
> -1
>
> IMO this vote exceeds our authority
>
> - robert
>
> On 1 Apr 2004, at 21:30, Stephen Colebourne wrote:
>
>> Well, I'll call a vote and see what happens.
>>
>> [ ] +1 Let Mario commit in the sandbox
>> [ ] 0 Not bothered
>> [ ] -1 Not at this time, because.....
>>
>> Stephen
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Michael Davey" <Mi...@coderage.org>
>>> It looks as though the committers for VFS are currently busy working
>>> on
>>> other projects. I would like to propose that a vote is held to admit
>>> Mario Ivankovits as a Commons-Sandbox committer.
>>>
>>> Mario has been active on the developer list for over a year and has
>>> submitted patches for FTP and VFS. More recently, Mario has spent
>>> some time setting up a test server for VFS.
>>>
>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/commons-dev@jakarta.apache.org/
>>> msg38267.html
>>> http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=27776
>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/commons-dev@jakarta.apache.org/
>>> msg38413.html
>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/commons-dev@jakarta.apache.org/
>>> msg38412.html
>>>
>>> There has been increasing interest in the VFS project over the last
>>> few
>>> months, and it needs someone to be focusing on it. Mario has
>>> expressed an
>>> interest in moving VFS forward and, I believe, is ready.
>>>
>>> However, I am not a committer myself, so is there anyone who would be
>>> willing to sponsor this proposal and send out the appropriate "VOTE"
>>> email?
>>
>>
>>
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RE: [VOTE] Mario Ivankovits as a Commons-Sandbox committer
Posted by "Noel J. Bergman" <no...@devtech.com>.
> > [ ] +1 Let Mario commit in the sandbox
> > [ ] 0 Not bothered
> > [ ] -1 Not at this time, because.....
> -1
> IMO this vote exceeds our authority
What authority do you mean? Please be specific, so we have an idea of what
problem is perceived.
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Re: [VOTE] Mario Ivankovits as a Commons-Sandbox committer
Posted by robert burrell donkin <ro...@blueyonder.co.uk>.
-1
IMO this vote exceeds our authority
- robert
On 1 Apr 2004, at 21:30, Stephen Colebourne wrote:
> Well, I'll call a vote and see what happens.
>
> [ ] +1 Let Mario commit in the sandbox
> [ ] 0 Not bothered
> [ ] -1 Not at this time, because.....
>
> Stephen
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Davey" <Mi...@coderage.org>
>> It looks as though the committers for VFS are currently busy working
>> on
>> other projects. I would like to propose that a vote is held to admit
>> Mario Ivankovits as a Commons-Sandbox committer.
>>
>> Mario has been active on the developer list for over a year and has
>> submitted patches for FTP and VFS. More recently, Mario has spent
>> some time setting up a test server for VFS.
>>
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/commons-dev@jakarta.apache.org/
>> msg38267.html
>> http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=27776
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/commons-dev@jakarta.apache.org/
>> msg38413.html
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/commons-dev@jakarta.apache.org/
>> msg38412.html
>>
>> There has been increasing interest in the VFS project over the last
>> few
>> months, and it needs someone to be focusing on it. Mario has
>> expressed an
>> interest in moving VFS forward and, I believe, is ready.
>>
>> However, I am not a committer myself, so is there anyone who would be
>> willing to sponsor this proposal and send out the appropriate "VOTE"
>> email?
>
>
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RE: [VOTE] Mario Ivankovits as a Commons-Sandbox committer
Posted by "Noel J. Bergman" <no...@devtech.com>.
> [X] +1 Let Mario commit in the sandbox
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[VOTE] Mario Ivankovits as a Commons-Sandbox committer
Posted by Stephen Colebourne <sc...@btopenworld.com>.
Well, I'll call a vote and see what happens.
[ ] +1 Let Mario commit in the sandbox
[ ] 0 Not bothered
[ ] -1 Not at this time, because.....
Stephen
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Davey" <Mi...@coderage.org>
> It looks as though the committers for VFS are currently busy working on
> other projects. I would like to propose that a vote is held to admit
> Mario Ivankovits as a Commons-Sandbox committer.
>
> Mario has been active on the developer list for over a year and has
> submitted patches for FTP and VFS. More recently, Mario has spent
> some time setting up a test server for VFS.
>
> http://www.mail-archive.com/commons-dev@jakarta.apache.org/msg38267.html
> http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=27776
> http://www.mail-archive.com/commons-dev@jakarta.apache.org/msg38413.html
> http://www.mail-archive.com/commons-dev@jakarta.apache.org/msg38412.html
>
> There has been increasing interest in the VFS project over the last few
> months, and it needs someone to be focusing on it. Mario has expressed an
> interest in moving VFS forward and, I believe, is ready.
>
> However, I am not a committer myself, so is there anyone who would be
> willing to sponsor this proposal and send out the appropriate "VOTE"
> email?
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Re: [all] [VFS] Where are the committers?
Posted by robert burrell donkin <ro...@blueyonder.co.uk>.
On 1 Apr 2004, at 21:59, Stephen Colebourne wrote:
> What change? What rule? I would feel more comfortable if I could see
> the
> rule being asserted here. What I'm trying to convery is a sense that
> there
> is no rule here other than that we make ourselves.
this discussion is moved towards ASF politics so i'd like to politely
bow out now :)
- robert
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Re: [all] [VFS] Where are the committers?
Posted by Stephen Colebourne <sc...@btopenworld.com>.
What change? What rule? I would feel more comfortable if I could see the
rule being asserted here. What I'm trying to convery is a sense that there
is no rule here other than that we make ourselves.
Stephen
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From: "robert burrell donkin" <ro...@blueyonder.co.uk>
> On 1 Apr 2004, at 21:24, Stephen Colebourne wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> > IMHO we can't afford to be this strict can we? It certainly leads to a
> > not
> > invented here attitude and the loss of good codebases. The line to draw
> > should be that new committers cannot create new sandbox projects (that
> > way
> > leads to SF) but can join an existing dormant sandbox project.
>
> IMO this is a matter for the jakarta pmc. whilst we're part of jakarta,
> we should aide by their rules. the right place to lobby for this change
> is on the general list.
>
> - robert
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Re: [all] [VFS] Where are the committers?
Posted by robert burrell donkin <ro...@blueyonder.co.uk>.
On 1 Apr 2004, at 21:24, Stephen Colebourne wrote:
<snip>
> IMHO we can't afford to be this strict can we? It certainly leads to a
> not
> invented here attitude and the loss of good codebases. The line to draw
> should be that new committers cannot create new sandbox projects (that
> way
> leads to SF) but can join an existing dormant sandbox project.
IMO this is a matter for the jakarta pmc. whilst we're part of jakarta,
we should aide by their rules. the right place to lobby for this change
is on the general list.
- robert
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Re: [all] [VFS] Where are the committers?
Posted by robert burrell donkin <ro...@blueyonder.co.uk>.
On 1 Apr 2004, at 21:24, Stephen Colebourne wrote:
> We have quoted this line for some time, however I am unclear as to
> where it
> comes from. The commons charter does not rule out adding committers to
> work
> in the sandbox as far as I can see. A low bar of entry seems like a
> positive
> to me.
many senior ASF figures already think that jakarta in general and
jakarta commons in particular set the barrier for committers very much
too low but this is probably the last thing i want to say on this
subject (i'm fed up of ASF politics).
- robert
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Re: [all] [VFS] Where are the committers?
Posted by Stephen Colebourne <sc...@btopenworld.com>.
We have quoted this line for some time, however I am unclear as to where it
comes from. The commons charter does not rule out adding committers to work
in the sandbox as far as I can see. A low bar of entry seems like a positive
to me.
IMHO we can't afford to be this strict can we? It certainly leads to a not
invented here attitude and the loss of good codebases. The line to draw
should be that new committers cannot create new sandbox projects (that way
leads to SF) but can join an existing dormant sandbox project.
Stephen
From: "robert burrell donkin" <ro...@blueyonder.co.uk>
> hi michael
>
> (please take this in the positive way in which it's intended.)
>
> i'm very sad to say that the jakarta commons rules don't really allow
> new committers to be nominated for sandbox components: existing apache
> committers will be granted karma upon request but new committers should
> only be elected for work on existing components.
>
> the jakarta commons team runs the sandbox on behalf of the jakarta pmc
> and the rules are theirs (not ours). so one option would be to repeat
> this request (or ask for an existing ASF committer to volunteer) on
> jakarta general.
>
> the sandbox is a public place where existing apache committers can
> experiment. some experiment gather momentum and gain promotion either
> to the commons proper or elsewhere. in other cases the committers loose
> interest and the component languishes.
>
> if vfs has good code but has lost it's community of developers then
> there are various options. hopefully an existing committer might
> volunteer to restart VFS development. with a healthy community,
> development and promotion could be reasonably quick.
>
> but if this doesn't happen then the VFS community might consider
> starting to work on an enhanced version over at sourceforge. you would
> still be very welcome to continue to use this list for communication
> but you would have the freedom to develop and nominate committers
> without the rules we need here at apache. if you choose the AL2.0
> license then there's every possibility that the project could be
> reunified one day.
>
> - robert
>
> On 1 Apr 2004, at 09:21, Michael Davey wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > It looks as though the committers for VFS are currently busy working on
> > other projects. I would like to propose that a vote is held to admit
> > Mario Ivankovits as a Commons-Sandbox committer.
> >
> > Mario has been active on the developer list for over a year and has
> > submitted patches for FTP and VFS. More recently, Mario has spent
> > some time setting up a test server for VFS.
> >
> > http://www.mail-archive.com/commons-dev@jakarta.apache.org/
> > msg38267.html
> > http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=27776
> > http://www.mail-archive.com/commons-dev@jakarta.apache.org/
> > msg38413.html
> > http://www.mail-archive.com/commons-dev@jakarta.apache.org/
> > msg38412.html
> >
> > There has been increasing interest in the VFS project over the last few
> > months, and it needs someone to be focusing on it. Mario has expressed
> > an
> > interest in moving VFS forward and, I believe, is ready.
> >
> > However, I am not a committer myself, so is there anyone who would be
> > willing to sponsor this proposal and send out the appropriate "VOTE"
> > email?
> >
> > --
> > Michael
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [all] [VFS] Where are the committers?
Posted by robert burrell donkin <ro...@blueyonder.co.uk>.
hi michael
(please take this in the positive way in which it's intended.)
i'm very sad to say that the jakarta commons rules don't really allow
new committers to be nominated for sandbox components: existing apache
committers will be granted karma upon request but new committers should
only be elected for work on existing components.
the jakarta commons team runs the sandbox on behalf of the jakarta pmc
and the rules are theirs (not ours). so one option would be to repeat
this request (or ask for an existing ASF committer to volunteer) on
jakarta general.
the sandbox is a public place where existing apache committers can
experiment. some experiment gather momentum and gain promotion either
to the commons proper or elsewhere. in other cases the committers loose
interest and the component languishes.
if vfs has good code but has lost it's community of developers then
there are various options. hopefully an existing committer might
volunteer to restart VFS development. with a healthy community,
development and promotion could be reasonably quick.
but if this doesn't happen then the VFS community might consider
starting to work on an enhanced version over at sourceforge. you would
still be very welcome to continue to use this list for communication
but you would have the freedom to develop and nominate committers
without the rules we need here at apache. if you choose the AL2.0
license then there's every possibility that the project could be
reunified one day.
- robert
On 1 Apr 2004, at 09:21, Michael Davey wrote:
> Hello,
>
> It looks as though the committers for VFS are currently busy working on
> other projects. I would like to propose that a vote is held to admit
> Mario Ivankovits as a Commons-Sandbox committer.
>
> Mario has been active on the developer list for over a year and has
> submitted patches for FTP and VFS. More recently, Mario has spent
> some time setting up a test server for VFS.
>
> http://www.mail-archive.com/commons-dev@jakarta.apache.org/
> msg38267.html
> http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=27776
> http://www.mail-archive.com/commons-dev@jakarta.apache.org/
> msg38413.html
> http://www.mail-archive.com/commons-dev@jakarta.apache.org/
> msg38412.html
>
> There has been increasing interest in the VFS project over the last few
> months, and it needs someone to be focusing on it. Mario has expressed
> an
> interest in moving VFS forward and, I believe, is ready.
>
> However, I am not a committer myself, so is there anyone who would be
> willing to sponsor this proposal and send out the appropriate "VOTE"
> email?
>
> --
> Michael
>
>
>
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