RE: RE: cvs commit: xml-axis/java/src/org/apache/axis/wsdl/toJava Jav aComplexTypeWriter.java JavaStubWriter.java

[Glen Daniels <gd...@macromedia.com>]

I think Rick raises some good points.

I've never seen i18n'ed debug msgs in other products I've worked on either, and it makes what should be a quick and easy debugging aid into something that's heavyweight both to code and to debug with....

--G

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rick Rineholt [mailto:rineholt@us.ibm.com]
> Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 9:19 AM
> To: axis-dev@xml.apache.org
> Subject: Re: RE: cvs commit:
> xml-axis/java/src/org/apache/axis/wsdl/toJava Jav
> aComplexTypeWriter.java JavaStubWriter.java
> 
> 
> I agree here with Glen.  I have never seen in my time in IBM 
> where debug
> trace was I18N.
> I have also worked overseas and for technical positions it 
> was understood
> that English was
> a requirement.  I even once asked some of the developers at 
> the time why
> they didn't get
> product documentation in their native language and was told 
> that technical
> translations were so
> poor that it was almost useless.  Besides the trace 
> information is for the
> most part useless
> unless you have a reasonable understanding of the code in 
> which case as
> part of the translation
> effort will the code comments be also translated? :-)  It also adds
> additional cumbersome when
> trying to debug to have to look up in message tables to match 
> the trace
> statements with the
> outputs.  Which also leads to developers ultimately not putting trace
> statements in whatsoever.
> 
> 
> >I don't agree (obviously, since I keep i18ning them!).  
> IBM's got customer
> >support sites all over the world.  Most of the problems they 
> support will
> >be resolved by them and not even get to a developer back 
> here.  When they
> >tell their customers to turn on debug, they would really 
> prefer to work in
> >their own language.
> >Russell Butek
> >butek@us.ibm.com
> >
> >Glen Daniels <gd...@macromedia.com> on 03/14/2002 10:16:30 PM
> >Please respond to axis-dev@xml.apache.org
> >To:    "'axis-dev@xml.apache.org'" <ax...@xml.apache.org>
> >cc:
> >Subject:    RE: cvs commit: 
> xml-axis/java/src/org/apache/axis/wsdl/toJava
> >Jav  aComplexTypeWriter.java JavaStubWriter.java
> >
> >
> >You know, if you ask me, it's going a bit far to internationalize
> debugging
> >trace messages....
> >
> 
> 
> Rick Rineholt
> "The truth is out there...  All you need is a better search engine!"
> 
> rineholt@us.ibm.com
>