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Posted to dev@community.apache.org by Carlos Gonzalez Galera <cg...@uci.cu> on 2016/01/18 17:59:40 UTC

Enhancing apache server for LMS environments

Hello. I am currently working with Moodle, which is a LMS( Learning Management System). The LMS concept is quite similar to the CMS but focused on educative content, in that sense,a LMS system handles a sort of virtual courses and the management of its content. In my daily job, usually i have to create virtual servers for differents LMS and these servers are hosted under an apache server and everything works fine and here comes the thing: i want it works GREAT,not just fine.
What i really need to know  if exists some recommended configuration to the apache server for this specific environment(LMS systems): recommended modules, changes on the default configuration and so on, in order to improve the performance. I am using apache 2.2 in a context of 10.000 users with 30-45 concurrent users. Any help is welcome.
Thanks.

[users@httpd] Re: [MASSMAIL]Re: [users@httpd] Enhancing apache server for LMS environments

Posted by Carlos Gonzalez Galera <cg...@uci.cu>.

First than all, thanks for the quick answer. I am looking for improvements in both sides: the moodle itself and the web server.I will check your recomendations. Thanks again.

----- Mensaje original -----
De: "Tobias Adolph" <To...@lrz.de>
Para: users@httpd.apache.org
Enviados: Martes, 19 de Enero 2016 10:23:46
Asunto: [MASSMAIL]Re: [users@httpd] Enhancing apache server for LMS environments

Hi Carlos,

Am 19.01.2016 um 15:50 schrieb Carlos Gonzalez Galera:
> What i really need to know if exists some recommended configuration to the apache server for this specific environment(LMS systems): recommended modules, changes on the default configuration and so on, in order to improve the performance. I am using apache 2.2 in a context of 10.000 users with 30-45 concurrent users. Any help is welcome.
> Thanks.
this answer will be - as Eric Covener pointed out - kind of generic.

Since Moodle is PHP-based the most important question IMHO is how you
connect Apache with PHP. In 2.2 there are two possibilities AFAIK
mod_php and mod_fcgid. Since mod_php is not multi-client capable (it
runs under the ID of the apache) and separation of instances should be
an issue for you (there are some sensible data in LMS, such as marks
etc.) mod_fcgid is most probably your best choice.

If it is an option for you to upgrade to Apache 2.4 you could also use
mod_proxy_fcgi.

But since your question is specific to a web-application, maybe you'll
get a better answer asking the moodle community:
https://moodle.org/course/ (My search query with the keyword "Apache"
had 19985 results, "Apache" and "2.2" still got 2305 results).

Hope this helps.

Tobias

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Re: [users@httpd] Enhancing apache server for LMS environments

Posted by Tobias Adolph <To...@lrz.de>.

Hi Carlos,

Am 19.01.2016 um 15:50 schrieb Carlos Gonzalez Galera:
> What i really need to know  if exists some recommended configuration to the apache server for this specific environment(LMS systems): recommended modules, changes on the default configuration and so on, in order to improve the performance. I am using apache 2.2 in a context of 10.000 users with 30-45 concurrent users. Any help is welcome.
> Thanks.
this answer will be - as Eric Covener pointed out - kind of generic.

Since Moodle is PHP-based the most important question IMHO is how you 
connect Apache with PHP. In 2.2 there are two possibilities AFAIK 
mod_php and mod_fcgid. Since mod_php is not multi-client capable (it 
runs under the ID of the apache) and separation of instances should be 
an issue for you (there are some sensible data in LMS, such as marks 
etc.) mod_fcgid is most probably your best choice.

If it is an option for you to upgrade to Apache  2.4 you could also use 
mod_proxy_fcgi.

But since your question is specific to a web-application, maybe you'll 
get a better answer asking the moodle community: 
https://moodle.org/course/ (My search query with the keyword "Apache" 
had 19985 results, "Apache" and "2.2" still got 2305 results).

Hope this helps.

Tobias

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Re: [users@httpd] Enhancing apache server for LMS environments

Posted by Eric Covener <co...@gmail.com>.

On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 9:50 AM, Carlos Gonzalez Galera <cg...@uci.cu> wrote:
> What i really need to know  if exists some recommended configuration to the apache server for this specific environment(LMS systems):

It's very unlikely anything that abstract would come with
recommendations.  You'll need to find something concrete to measure
and improve.

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[users@httpd] Enhancing apache server for LMS environments

Posted by Carlos Gonzalez Galera <cg...@uci.cu>.


Hello. I am currently working with Moodle, which is a LMS( Learning Management System). The LMS concept is quite similar to the CMS but focused on educative content, in that sense,a LMS system handles a sort of virtual courses and the management of its content. In my daily job, usually i have to create virtual servers for differents LMS and these servers are hosted under an apache server and everything works fine and here comes the thing: i want it works GREAT,not just fine.
What i really need to know  if exists some recommended configuration to the apache server for this specific environment(LMS systems): recommended modules, changes on the default configuration and so on, in order to improve the performance. I am using apache 2.2 in a context of 10.000 users with 30-45 concurrent users. Any help is welcome.
Thanks.

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Re: [MASSMAIL]Re: Enhancing apache server for LMS environments

Posted by Carlos Gonzalez Galera <cg...@uci.cu>.

Thanks

----- Mensaje original -----
De: "Sergio Fernández" <wi...@apache.org>
Para: dev@community.apache.org
Enviados: Martes, 19 de Enero 2016 2:43:53
Asunto: [MASSMAIL]Re: Enhancing apache server for LMS environments

Hi Carlos, I guess you actually wanted to contact the HTTPd project:
http://httpd.apache.org/lists.html

On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 5:59 PM, Carlos Gonzalez Galera <cg...@uci.cu>
wrote:

> Hello. I am currently working with Moodle, which is a LMS( Learning
> Management System). The LMS concept is quite similar to the CMS but focused
> on educative content, in that sense,a LMS system handles a sort of virtual
> courses and the management of its content. In my daily job, usually i have
> to create virtual servers for differents LMS and these servers are hosted
> under an apache server and everything works fine and here comes the thing:
> i want it works GREAT,not just fine.
> What i really need to know  if exists some recommended configuration to
> the apache server for this specific environment(LMS systems): recommended
> modules, changes on the default configuration and so on, in order to
> improve the performance. I am using apache 2.2 in a context of 10.000 users
> with 30-45 concurrent users. Any help is welcome.
> Thanks.
>



-- 
Sergio Fernández
Partner Technology Manager
Redlink GmbH
m: +43 6602747925
e: sergio.fernandez@redlink.co
w: http://redlink.co

Re: Enhancing apache server for LMS environments

Posted by Sergio Fernández <wi...@apache.org>.

Hi Carlos, I guess you actually wanted to contact the HTTPd project:
http://httpd.apache.org/lists.html

On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 5:59 PM, Carlos Gonzalez Galera <cg...@uci.cu>
wrote:

> Hello. I am currently working with Moodle, which is a LMS( Learning
> Management System). The LMS concept is quite similar to the CMS but focused
> on educative content, in that sense,a LMS system handles a sort of virtual
> courses and the management of its content. In my daily job, usually i have
> to create virtual servers for differents LMS and these servers are hosted
> under an apache server and everything works fine and here comes the thing:
> i want it works GREAT,not just fine.
> What i really need to know  if exists some recommended configuration to
> the apache server for this specific environment(LMS systems): recommended
> modules, changes on the default configuration and so on, in order to
> improve the performance. I am using apache 2.2 in a context of 10.000 users
> with 30-45 concurrent users. Any help is welcome.
> Thanks.
>



-- 
Sergio Fernández
Partner Technology Manager
Redlink GmbH
m: +43 6602747925
e: sergio.fernandez@redlink.co
w: http://redlink.co