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Posted to jetspeed-dev@portals.apache.org by Frans Thamura <ft...@yahoo.com> on 2001/07/18 04:22:49 UTC
JetSpeed 2
Tips for JetSpeed 2.
I prefer a compatibility with 1.3 version in
specification like xreg, PSML, etc..
Why do I email this to all of you?
Because there is a jetspeed 2 directory when I
download the CVS.
1.3a2 have a great improvement, I prefer make it
stable also..
Oke..
Frans
--- David Sean Taylor <da...@bluesunrise.com> wrote:
> >
> > http://relativity.yi.org/portal.png
> >
>
> I can't view the image.
> I get an error:
>
> Cannot find server or DNS Error
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: burtonator [mailto:burton@relativity.yi.org]
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 4:51 AM
> > To: jetspeed-dev@jakarta.apache.org
> > Cc: Reptile Mailing List
> > Subject: [LONG] The future of Jetspeed... is with
> Reptile
> >
> >
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> >
> > Hello.
> >
> > I have been vacant on this mailing list for a
> while. The
> > reasons for this
> > absence will be explained shortly. I would like
> to apologize
> > in advance for the
> > controversial nature of this e-mail.
> >
> > After creating the Jetspeed project and driving it
> to the
> > point where it was
> > about 8 months ago, I learned a LOT about what to
> do and what
> > not to do when
> > building a Jetspeed like application.
> >
> > I use the term "Jetspeed like application" because
> I believe
> > the term Portal or
> > Enterprise Information Portal has been used
> incorrectly. A
> > lot of people have
> > applied the term Portal to describe a
> client/server
> > application which is behind
> > a centralized web server.
> >
> > I do not believe this is the future of this
> technology.
> >
> > I believe the term Portal should be redefined to
> describe a
> > fully distributed,
> > XML centric, syndication framework with the
> addition of
> > services such as
> > Reputation, XML based content syndication, P2P
> style
> > functionality (node-to-node
> > caching, node-to-node syndication, HTTP layer
> which doesn't
> > use DNS, etc),
> > micropayment integration and language translation
> services.
> > Privacy protection
> > should also make up a significant portion of the
> project and
> > it should support
> > distributed, nym based authentication (which can
> drive reputation).
> >
> > They say a picture is worth a thousand words and I
> believe
> > this describes the
> > type of power this technology could give to the
> individual.
> >
> > http://relativity.yi.org/portal.png
> >
> > To that end, a friend (Fen Labalme) and I founded
> the
> > OpenPrivacy project
> > (http://www.openprivacy.org) and spent the last 8
> months in
> > research and
> > development mode trying to figure out where this
> stuff was
> > going. We began by
> > focusing on using Reputation to measure the
> quality of
> > distributed resources
> > (URLs) and tried to incorporate this into
> correctly measuring
> > privacy concerns
> > so that one can use the system without fear of the
> Orwellian
> > issues that arise
> > from fully uniform and traceable systems.
> >
> > If you accept my redefinition of the term Portal
> it quickly
> > becomes clear that
> > Jetspeed won't solve these problems. The problem
> is that
> > Jetspeed is a Java/Web
> > application which uses XML in a limited manner.
> The correct
> > interpretation
> > should realize that XML is what is *most*
> important and that
> > Java and any other
> > specific technologies are used simply to optimize
> and transform XML.
> >
> > The Reptile project
> (http://reptile.openprivacy.org) was
> > created to solve these
> > problems and provide an implementation of this
> technology.
> > Since its creation
> > about a month ago the Reptile project has made
> amazing progress.
> >
> > - From an architecture perspective, Reptile is
> significantly
> > different from
> > Jetspeed. First off there is no plugin API. The
> only way
> > content can make it
> > into Reptile is via XML and a contentType. That
> said
> > developers can still use
> > Java code to produce XML and integrate it any way
> they want.
> >
> > Jetspeed could not function without the Portlet
> API. This is
> > especially true
> > because a lot of Jetspeed's own UI is generated
> with
> > Portlets. Reptile handles
> > this problem with Xalan extensions. This also has
> the added
> > advantage of
> > providing Reptile with a plugin architecture which
> supports
> > other languages
> > besides Java including Python, Javascript, etc due
> to the IBM
> > Bean Scripting
> > framework.
> >
> > Another main difference is that there is no PSML.
> Instead we
> > use a system of
> > layout, control and page schemas which can produce
> the same
> > output but in a much
> > more flexible manner.
> >
> > We have no capability system like the Jetspeed
> capability
> > map. I expect this to
> > be integrated soon but it is currently at a low
> priority. It
> > will probably be
> > integrated into our sequence dispatch system.
> >
> > Reptile does not use Turbine. I have mixed
> feelings about
> > this. In some ways
> > Turbine is great but in others it is a hindrance.
> Hopefully
> > we can come up with
> > a solution to this soon. I really feel that
> Turbine should
> > to be split into
> > multiple projects. Right now there is just too
> much code in
> > one place.
> >
> > We do have PortletControl functionality within
> Reptile but it
> > doesn't use Java
> > and instead uses XML and a dedicated namespace.
> >
> > Due this new design I believe that it is currently
> more
> > advanced that Jetspeed.
> > The main advantage that Jetspeed provides is that
> people are
> > currently using it
> > right now and it is stable. I would invite
> everyone here to
> > take a look at
> > Reptile and see what they think.
>
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