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Posted to mirrors@apache.org by Peter Losher <Pe...@isc.org> on 2004/12/09 20:26:39 UTC
Use of mirrors@apache.org...
Question - As subscribing to this list was part of the "How to become a Apache
mirror", is there any practical use to remain part of this list if you are
already a official mirror? (i.e. are there official announcements that we as
mirrors should read?)
Because all I see here are a stream of mirror applications, and discussions on
how they are not complying with the mirror requirements, and I'd rather save
you all the CPU and bandwidth of sending me all that. :)
Best Wishes - Peter
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Re: Use of mirrors@apache.org...
Posted by Eric Pancer <ep...@security.depaul.edu>.
Justin Erenkrantz wrote on Thu, 2004-12-09 at 12:46:20 -0800...
> +1. I think making the submitters file a JIRA entry for their new mirrors
> would be goodness as it'd ensure that submissions don't get lost. -- justin
I've seen bug entries for mirrors get lost for both gentoo and other
major projects.
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Re: Use of mirrors@apache.org...
Posted by Justin Erenkrantz <ju...@erenkrantz.com>.
--On Thursday, December 9, 2004 3:16 PM -0500 Joshua Slive <jo...@slive.ca>
wrote:
> If there is a general feeling that there is too much traffic on this list
> (and hence it won't serve its purpose as an announcement list), we can try
> to redirect submissions to another location (like the bug database).
+1. I think making the submitters file a JIRA entry for their new mirrors
would be goodness as it'd ensure that submissions don't get lost. -- justin
Re: [gulus-miroir] Re: Use of mirrors@apache.org...
Posted by Simon Valiquette <v....@ieee.org>.
jason andrade a écrit :
> On Thu, 9 Dec 2004, Astharot wrote:
>
>> I agree with Peter. There should be a separate list about new
>> submissions... see other link requests are useless, imho.
>
>
> the convention on other mirror lists has been for something like:
>
> mirrors-announce@apache.org - restricted posting (e.g only by the apache
> mirror maintainers and core/developers). very low volume, only informational
> posts (e.g new releases)
>
> mirrors@apache.org - discussion list for mirror admins
>
Just getting the new mirrors, mirror X unavailable for the next few
days and such requests off this list should already be enought for now,
in my opinion.
I think that putting 2 lists is too much for now, because there is
only very few discussions anyway. If after all we see that there is
effectivelly a need for another list, nothing will prevent us from
creating it later.
Simon Valiquette
http://gulus.USherbrooke.ca
http://www.gulus.org
Re: Use of mirrors@apache.org...
Posted by jason andrade <ja...@rtfmconsult.com>.
On Thu, 9 Dec 2004, Astharot wrote:
> I agree with Peter. There should be a separate list about new submissions...
> see other link requests are useless, imho.
the convention on other mirror lists has been for something like:
mirrors-announce@apache.org - restricted posting (e.g only by the apache mirror
maintainers and core/developers). very low volume, only informational posts
(e.g new releases)
mirrors@apache.org - discussion list for mirror admins
regards,
-jason
Re: Use of mirrors@apache.org...
Posted by Astharot <as...@zone-h.org>.
Joshua Slive wrote:
> Yes, unfortunately, this list is a combined
> submission/discussion/announcement list. It would be nice if we could
> have a separate channel for the first topic (submission) to lighten the
> bandwidth on this list. We did have it at one point, but it wasn't
> monitored very effectively, so mirror requests wound up getting ignored.
>
> If there is a general feeling that there is too much traffic on this
> list (and hence it won't serve its purpose as an announcement list), we
> can try to redirect submissions to another location (like the bug
> database).
>
> Opinions?
>
> Joshua.
>
I agree with Peter. There should be a separate list about new
submissions... see other link requests are useless, imho.
Bye
Gerardo Di Giacomo
Re: Use of mirrors@apache.org...
Posted by Ryan <EN...@Yahoo.Ca>.
nevermind got it to work... ack
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ryan" <EN...@Yahoo.Ca>
To: <mi...@apache.org>
Cc: <jo...@slive.ca>
Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 16:47
Subject: Re: Use of mirrors@apache.org...
> There is no component "Mirrors", under "Infrastructure"
> when creating a new issue in project ...
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joshua Slive" <jo...@slive.ca>
> To: <mi...@apache.org>
> Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 14:38
> Subject: Re: Use of mirrors@apache.org...
>
>
>> I've just changed the instructions on this page:
>> http://www.apache.org/info/how-to-mirror.html
>> to suggest the usage of our Jira issue tracker for new-mirror
>> submissions. I'm not a huge fan of Jira, but it seems to be the best
>> that we have at the moment.
>>
>> That should lighten the load on mirrors@apache.org and allow this list to
>> be used for announcements and discussion that is of broad interest to all
>> apache mirror maintainers.
>>
>> So if you have an outstanding new-mirror submission that hasn't yet been
>> addressed, please follow the instructions on that page. Also, changes to
>> existing mirrors, or problems in our mirror infrastructure can be
>> submitted in the same way. You can always follow-up on this list if you
>> don't get any action.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Joshua.
>>
>>
>> Joshua Slive wrote:
>>>
>>> On Thu, 9 Dec 2004, Peter Losher wrote:
>>>
>>>> Question - As subscribing to this list was part of the "How to become a
>>>> Apache
>>>> mirror", is there any practical use to remain part of this list if you
>>>> are
>>>> already a official mirror? (i.e. are there official announcements that
>>>> we as
>>>> mirrors should read?)
>>>>
>>>> Because all I see here are a stream of mirror applications, and
>>>> discussions on
>>>> how they are not complying with the mirror requirements, and I'd rather
>>>> save
>>>> you all the CPU and bandwidth of sending me all that. :)
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, unfortunately, this list is a combined
>>> submission/discussion/announcement list. It would be nice if we could
>>> have a separate channel for the first topic (submission) to lighten the
>>> bandwidth on this list. We did have it at one point, but it wasn't
>>> monitored very effectively, so mirror requests wound up getting ignored.
>>>
>>> If there is a general feeling that there is too much traffic on this
>>> list (and hence it won't serve its purpose as an announcement list), we
>>> can try to redirect submissions to another location (like the bug
>>> database).
>>>
>>> Opinions?
>>>
>>> Joshua.
>>
>
>
Re: Use of mirrors@apache.org...
Posted by Ryan <EN...@Yahoo.Ca>.
There is no component "Mirrors", under "Infrastructure"
when creating a new issue in project ...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joshua Slive" <jo...@slive.ca>
To: <mi...@apache.org>
Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 14:38
Subject: Re: Use of mirrors@apache.org...
> I've just changed the instructions on this page:
> http://www.apache.org/info/how-to-mirror.html
> to suggest the usage of our Jira issue tracker for new-mirror
> submissions. I'm not a huge fan of Jira, but it seems to be the best
> that we have at the moment.
>
> That should lighten the load on mirrors@apache.org and allow this list
> to be used for announcements and discussion that is of broad interest to
> all apache mirror maintainers.
>
> So if you have an outstanding new-mirror submission that hasn't yet been
> addressed, please follow the instructions on that page. Also, changes
> to existing mirrors, or problems in our mirror infrastructure can be
> submitted in the same way. You can always follow-up on this list if you
> don't get any action.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Joshua.
>
>
> Joshua Slive wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 9 Dec 2004, Peter Losher wrote:
>>
>>> Question - As subscribing to this list was part of the "How to become
>>> a Apache
>>> mirror", is there any practical use to remain part of this list if you
>>> are
>>> already a official mirror? (i.e. are there official announcements
>>> that we as
>>> mirrors should read?)
>>>
>>> Because all I see here are a stream of mirror applications, and
>>> discussions on
>>> how they are not complying with the mirror requirements, and I'd
>>> rather save
>>> you all the CPU and bandwidth of sending me all that. :)
>>
>>
>> Yes, unfortunately, this list is a combined
>> submission/discussion/announcement list. It would be nice if we could
>> have a separate channel for the first topic (submission) to lighten the
>> bandwidth on this list. We did have it at one point, but it wasn't
>> monitored very effectively, so mirror requests wound up getting ignored.
>>
>> If there is a general feeling that there is too much traffic on this
>> list (and hence it won't serve its purpose as an announcement list), we
>> can try to redirect submissions to another location (like the bug
>> database).
>>
>> Opinions?
>>
>> Joshua.
>
Re: Use of mirrors@apache.org...
Posted by Joshua Slive <jo...@slive.ca>.
I've just changed the instructions on this page:
http://www.apache.org/info/how-to-mirror.html
to suggest the usage of our Jira issue tracker for new-mirror
submissions. I'm not a huge fan of Jira, but it seems to be the best
that we have at the moment.
That should lighten the load on mirrors@apache.org and allow this list
to be used for announcements and discussion that is of broad interest to
all apache mirror maintainers.
So if you have an outstanding new-mirror submission that hasn't yet been
addressed, please follow the instructions on that page. Also, changes
to existing mirrors, or problems in our mirror infrastructure can be
submitted in the same way. You can always follow-up on this list if you
don't get any action.
Thanks.
Joshua.
Joshua Slive wrote:
>
> On Thu, 9 Dec 2004, Peter Losher wrote:
>
>> Question - As subscribing to this list was part of the "How to become
>> a Apache
>> mirror", is there any practical use to remain part of this list if you
>> are
>> already a official mirror? (i.e. are there official announcements
>> that we as
>> mirrors should read?)
>>
>> Because all I see here are a stream of mirror applications, and
>> discussions on
>> how they are not complying with the mirror requirements, and I'd
>> rather save
>> you all the CPU and bandwidth of sending me all that. :)
>
>
> Yes, unfortunately, this list is a combined
> submission/discussion/announcement list. It would be nice if we could
> have a separate channel for the first topic (submission) to lighten the
> bandwidth on this list. We did have it at one point, but it wasn't
> monitored very effectively, so mirror requests wound up getting ignored.
>
> If there is a general feeling that there is too much traffic on this
> list (and hence it won't serve its purpose as an announcement list), we
> can try to redirect submissions to another location (like the bug
> database).
>
> Opinions?
>
> Joshua.
Re: Use of mirrors@apache.org...
Posted by Joshua Slive <jo...@slive.ca>.
On Thu, 9 Dec 2004, Peter Losher wrote:
> Question - As subscribing to this list was part of the "How to become a Apache
> mirror", is there any practical use to remain part of this list if you are
> already a official mirror? (i.e. are there official announcements that we as
> mirrors should read?)
>
> Because all I see here are a stream of mirror applications, and discussions on
> how they are not complying with the mirror requirements, and I'd rather save
> you all the CPU and bandwidth of sending me all that. :)
Yes, unfortunately, this list is a combined
submission/discussion/announcement list. It would be nice if we could
have a separate channel for the first topic (submission) to lighten the
bandwidth on this list. We did have it at one point, but it wasn't
monitored very effectively, so mirror requests wound up getting ignored.
If there is a general feeling that there is too much traffic on this list
(and hence it won't serve its purpose as an announcement list), we can try
to redirect submissions to another location (like the bug database).
Opinions?
Joshua.
RE: apache.uwhdc.com
Posted by Ryan <EN...@Yahoo.Ca>.
Sorry we changed our os on our primary server.
I'm in the process of setting up the mirror again.
Hope to have it back online by tomorrow night.