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[Mirror file structure][DISCUSS] Wanted: New mirror file structure for AOO 4.0

Many months ago we agreed to create a new file structure for the mirrors 
to get rid of some historical grown limitations and complexity.

I want to continue this and come to a final result.

Current situation:

- Mostly it's about to differenciate the files between "stable" for 
en-US files only and "localized" for all other languages.

- Due to Apache policy the source files must not be distributed by 
mirrors, but have to be offered from Apache servers only.

New naming structure:

- A new structure could look like the following:

<path_on_the_mirror>/<release_version>/<file_type>/<language_code>/<install_file>

Some examples to make it more realistic:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/
4.0.0/binaries/en-US/Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.0_Win_x86_install_en-US.exe

http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/
4.0.0/binaries/it/Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.0_Win_x86_langpack_it.exe

http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/
4.0.0/binaries/SDK/Apache_OpenOffice-SDK_4.0.0_Win_x86_install_en-US.exe

http://www.apache.org/dyn/aoo-closer.cgi/ooo/
4.0.0/source/aoo-4.0.0-src.tar.bz2

What do you think?

Thanks

Marcus

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Re: [Mirror file structure][DISCUSS] Wanted: New mirror file structure for AOO 4.0

Posted by janI <ja...@apache.org>.
On Mar 31, 2013 6:21 PM, "Marcus (OOo)" <ma...@wtnet.de> wrote:
>
> Am 03/31/2013 06:18 PM, schrieb janI:
>
>> On 31 March 2013 18:07, Marcus (OOo)<ma...@wtnet.de>  wrote:
>>
>>> Many months ago we agreed to create a new file structure for the mirrors
>>> to get rid of some historical grown limitations and complexity.
>>>
>>> I want to continue this and come to a final result.
>>>
>>> Current situation:
>>>
>>> - Mostly it's about to differenciate the files between "stable" for
en-US
>>> files only and "localized" for all other languages.
>>>
>>> - Due to Apache policy the source files must not be distributed by
>>> mirrors, but have to be offered from Apache servers only.
>>>
>>> New naming structure:
>>>
>>> - A new structure could look like the following:
>>>
>>>
>>>
<path_on_the_mirror>/<release_version>/<file_type>/<language_code>/<install_file>
>>>
>>> Some examples to make it more realistic:
>>>
>>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/
>>> 4.0.0/binaries/en-US/Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.0_Win_x86_install_en-US.exe
>>>
>>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/
>>> 4.0.0/binaries/it/Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.0_Win_x86_langpack_it.exe
>>>
>>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/
>>> 4.0.0/binaries/SDK/Apache_OpenOffice-SDK_4.0.0_Win_x86_install_en-US.exe
>>>
>>> http://www.apache.org/dyn/aoo-closer.cgi/ooo/
>>> 4.0.0/source/aoo-4.0.0-src.tar.bz2
>>>
>>> What do you think?
>>>
>> +1, that fits nicely with my work on l10n. For the src, I have moved lang
>> from extras/l10n to main/solenv/lang (and po files instead of sdf), so we
>> only need to distribute branches/<release>/main
>>
>> ps. dont forget the language packs.
>
>
> In my example I've listed an Italian langpack, or do you mean something
else?
ups overlooked the little "It", no nothing else.

rgdd
jan i
>
>
> Marcus
>
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Re: [Mirror file structure][DISCUSS] Wanted: New mirror file structure for AOO 4.0

Posted by "Marcus (OOo)" <ma...@wtnet.de>.
Am 03/31/2013 06:18 PM, schrieb janI:
> On 31 March 2013 18:07, Marcus (OOo)<ma...@wtnet.de>  wrote:
>
>> Many months ago we agreed to create a new file structure for the mirrors
>> to get rid of some historical grown limitations and complexity.
>>
>> I want to continue this and come to a final result.
>>
>> Current situation:
>>
>> - Mostly it's about to differenciate the files between "stable" for en-US
>> files only and "localized" for all other languages.
>>
>> - Due to Apache policy the source files must not be distributed by
>> mirrors, but have to be offered from Apache servers only.
>>
>> New naming structure:
>>
>> - A new structure could look like the following:
>>
>>
>> <path_on_the_mirror>/<release_version>/<file_type>/<language_code>/<install_file>
>>
>> Some examples to make it more realistic:
>>
>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/
>> 4.0.0/binaries/en-US/Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.0_Win_x86_install_en-US.exe
>>
>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/
>> 4.0.0/binaries/it/Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.0_Win_x86_langpack_it.exe
>>
>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/
>> 4.0.0/binaries/SDK/Apache_OpenOffice-SDK_4.0.0_Win_x86_install_en-US.exe
>>
>> http://www.apache.org/dyn/aoo-closer.cgi/ooo/
>> 4.0.0/source/aoo-4.0.0-src.tar.bz2
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
> +1, that fits nicely with my work on l10n. For the src, I have moved lang
> from extras/l10n to main/solenv/lang (and po files instead of sdf), so we
> only need to distribute branches/<release>/main
>
> ps. dont forget the language packs.

In my example I've listed an Italian langpack, or do you mean something 
else?

Marcus


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Re: [Mirror file structure][DISCUSS] Wanted: New mirror file structure for AOO 4.0

Posted by janI <ja...@apache.org>.
On 31 March 2013 18:07, Marcus (OOo) <ma...@wtnet.de> wrote:

> Many months ago we agreed to create a new file structure for the mirrors
> to get rid of some historical grown limitations and complexity.
>
> I want to continue this and come to a final result.
>
> Current situation:
>
> - Mostly it's about to differenciate the files between "stable" for en-US
> files only and "localized" for all other languages.
>
> - Due to Apache policy the source files must not be distributed by
> mirrors, but have to be offered from Apache servers only.
>
> New naming structure:
>
> - A new structure could look like the following:
>
>
> <path_on_the_mirror>/<release_version>/<file_type>/<language_code>/<install_file>
>
> Some examples to make it more realistic:
>
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/
> 4.0.0/binaries/en-US/Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.0_Win_x86_install_en-US.exe
>
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/
> 4.0.0/binaries/it/Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.0_Win_x86_langpack_it.exe
>
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/
> 4.0.0/binaries/SDK/Apache_OpenOffice-SDK_4.0.0_Win_x86_install_en-US.exe
>
> http://www.apache.org/dyn/aoo-closer.cgi/ooo/
> 4.0.0/source/aoo-4.0.0-src.tar.bz2
>
> What do you think?
>
+1, that fits nicely with my work on l10n. For the src, I have moved lang
from extras/l10n to main/solenv/lang (and po files instead of sdf), so we
only need to distribute branches/<release>/main

ps. dont forget the language packs.

rgds
jan I.


>
> Thanks
>
> Marcus
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Re: [Mirror file structure][DISCUSS] Wanted: New mirror file structure for AOO 4.0

Posted by "Marcus (OOo)" <ma...@wtnet.de>.
Am 04/01/2013 03:39 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
> On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 9:12 AM, Marcus (OOo)<ma...@wtnet.de>  wrote:
>
>> Am 04/01/2013 01:49 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
>>
>>   On Apr 1, 2013, at 3:54 AM, "Marcus (OOo)"<ma...@wtnet.de>   wrote:
>>>
>>>   Am 04/01/2013 03:20 AM, schrieb Rob Weir:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 12:07 PM, Marcus (OOo)<ma...@wtnet.de>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Many months ago we agreed to create a new file structure for the
>>>>>> mirrors to
>>>>>> get rid of some historical grown limitations and complexity.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I want to continue this and come to a final result.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Current situation:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Mostly it's about to differenciate the files between "stable" for
>>>>>> en-US
>>>>>> files only and "localized" for all other languages.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Due to Apache policy the source files must not be distributed by
>>>>>> mirrors,
>>>>>> but have to be offered from Apache servers only.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Is that actually true?  I thought it was fine to distribute our source
>>>>> tarballs via the Apache mirror network.  The things that must be
>>>>> distributed from the Apache dist server are the hash files and
>>>>> detached signature files.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You are right, I've checked this with the current downloads. So, it can
>>>> stay as it is now.
>>>>
>>>>   New naming structure:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - A new structure could look like the following:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <path_on_the_mirror>/<release_**version>/<file_type>/<**
>>>>>> language_code>/<install_file>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Some examples to make it more realistic:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://sourceforge.net/**projects/openofficeorg.mirror/<http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/>
>>>>>> 4.0.0/binaries/en-US/Apache_**OpenOffice_4.0.0_Win_x86_**
>>>>>> install_en-US.exe
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://sourceforge.net/**projects/openofficeorg.mirror/<http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/>
>>>>>> 4.0.0/binaries/it/Apache_**OpenOffice_4.0.0_Win_x86_**langpack_it.exe
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://sourceforge.net/**projects/openofficeorg.mirror/<http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/>
>>>>>> 4.0.0/binaries/SDK/Apache_**OpenOffice-SDK_4.0.0_Win_x86_**
>>>>>> install_en-US.exe
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This does not match your pattern.  There is no<language-code>
>>>>> component to the path?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It is, have a look for the "en-US" "it", and "SDK" pattern.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Maybe a typo in you example?  I see "SDK" (and "binaries") but no
>>> language. Surely pretending that "SDK" is a language would only
>>> complicate the logic.
>>>
>>
>> As the SDK is distributed as "en-US" files we can put them also into this
>> dir. However, don't worry about the logic. ;-)
>>
>>
>
> But I do care, since my statistics gathering tools rely on a consistent
> directory structure.
>
> Better, IMHO, to have<file-type>  be more meaningful, e.g.,
> "full-install",  "lang-pack", "SDK", "source", etc.  Pretending that the
> SDK is merely another form of en-US binary is suboptimal.

Sure, "SDK" could be also a file-type instead of a language.

Marcus



>>   http://www.apache.org/dyn/aoo-**closer.cgi/ooo/<http://www.apache.org/dyn/aoo-closer.cgi/ooo/>
>>>>>> 4.0.0/source/aoo-4.0.0-src.**tar.bz2
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What do you think?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This is fine.  Could even do without the<file_type>    directory.  If
>>>>> you do then directly to the<language_code>    directory, everything is
>>>>> clear by the file name.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sure, but someone (or more people) wanted to have another sub-dir. But I
>>>> don't remember who it was.
>>>>
>>>>   Otherwise we end up with many directories
>>>>> with only a very small number of files in them.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I don't think so. When you look at the following I wouldn't call it a
>>>> small number of files:
>>>>
>>>> http://sourceforge.net/**projects/openofficeorg.mirror/**
>>>> files/localized/ar/3.4.1/<http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/localized/ar/3.4.1/>
>>>>
>>>> However, I don't care. Of course we could elleminate "<file_type>" from
>>>> the pattern when we could come to an agreeement.
>>>>
>>>> Marcus

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Re: [Mirror file structure][DISCUSS] Wanted: New mirror file structure for AOO 4.0

Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 9:12 AM, Marcus (OOo) <ma...@wtnet.de> wrote:

> Am 04/01/2013 01:49 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
>
>  On Apr 1, 2013, at 3:54 AM, "Marcus (OOo)"<ma...@wtnet.de>  wrote:
>>
>>  Am 04/01/2013 03:20 AM, schrieb Rob Weir:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 12:07 PM, Marcus (OOo)<ma...@wtnet.de>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Many months ago we agreed to create a new file structure for the
>>>>> mirrors to
>>>>> get rid of some historical grown limitations and complexity.
>>>>>
>>>>> I want to continue this and come to a final result.
>>>>>
>>>>> Current situation:
>>>>>
>>>>> - Mostly it's about to differenciate the files between "stable" for
>>>>> en-US
>>>>> files only and "localized" for all other languages.
>>>>>
>>>>> - Due to Apache policy the source files must not be distributed by
>>>>> mirrors,
>>>>> but have to be offered from Apache servers only.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Is that actually true?  I thought it was fine to distribute our source
>>>> tarballs via the Apache mirror network.  The things that must be
>>>> distributed from the Apache dist server are the hash files and
>>>> detached signature files.
>>>>
>>>
>>> You are right, I've checked this with the current downloads. So, it can
>>> stay as it is now.
>>>
>>>  New naming structure:
>>>>>
>>>>> - A new structure could look like the following:
>>>>>
>>>>> <path_on_the_mirror>/<release_**version>/<file_type>/<**
>>>>> language_code>/<install_file>
>>>>>
>>>>> Some examples to make it more realistic:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://sourceforge.net/**projects/openofficeorg.mirror/<http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/>
>>>>> 4.0.0/binaries/en-US/Apache_**OpenOffice_4.0.0_Win_x86_**
>>>>> install_en-US.exe
>>>>>
>>>>> http://sourceforge.net/**projects/openofficeorg.mirror/<http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/>
>>>>> 4.0.0/binaries/it/Apache_**OpenOffice_4.0.0_Win_x86_**langpack_it.exe
>>>>>
>>>>> http://sourceforge.net/**projects/openofficeorg.mirror/<http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/>
>>>>> 4.0.0/binaries/SDK/Apache_**OpenOffice-SDK_4.0.0_Win_x86_**
>>>>> install_en-US.exe
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This does not match your pattern.  There is no<language-code>
>>>> component to the path?
>>>>
>>>
>>> It is, have a look for the "en-US" "it", and "SDK" pattern.
>>>
>>>
>> Maybe a typo in you example?  I see "SDK" (and "binaries") but no
>> language. Surely pretending that "SDK" is a language would only
>> complicate the logic.
>>
>
> As the SDK is distributed as "en-US" files we can put them also into this
> dir. However, don't worry about the logic. ;-)
>
>

But I do care, since my statistics gathering tools rely on a consistent
directory structure.

Better, IMHO, to have <file-type> be more meaningful, e.g.,
"full-install",  "lang-pack", "SDK", "source", etc.  Pretending that the
SDK is merely another form of en-US binary is suboptimal.

-Rob



> Marcus
>
>
>
>
>  http://www.apache.org/dyn/aoo-**closer.cgi/ooo/<http://www.apache.org/dyn/aoo-closer.cgi/ooo/>
>>>>> 4.0.0/source/aoo-4.0.0-src.**tar.bz2
>>>>>
>>>>> What do you think?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This is fine.  Could even do without the<file_type>   directory.  If
>>>> you do then directly to the<language_code>   directory, everything is
>>>> clear by the file name.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Sure, but someone (or more people) wanted to have another sub-dir. But I
>>> don't remember who it was.
>>>
>>>  Otherwise we end up with many directories
>>>> with only a very small number of files in them.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I don't think so. When you look at the following I wouldn't call it a
>>> small number of files:
>>>
>>> http://sourceforge.net/**projects/openofficeorg.mirror/**
>>> files/localized/ar/3.4.1/<http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/localized/ar/3.4.1/>
>>>
>>> However, I don't care. Of course we could elleminate "<file_type>" from
>>> the pattern when we could come to an agreeement.
>>>
>>> Marcus
>>>
>>
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Re: [Mirror file structure][DISCUSS] Wanted: New mirror file structure for AOO 4.0

Posted by "Marcus (OOo)" <ma...@wtnet.de>.
Am 04/01/2013 01:49 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
> On Apr 1, 2013, at 3:54 AM, "Marcus (OOo)"<ma...@wtnet.de>  wrote:
>
>> Am 04/01/2013 03:20 AM, schrieb Rob Weir:
>>> On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 12:07 PM, Marcus (OOo)<ma...@wtnet.de>   wrote:
>>>> Many months ago we agreed to create a new file structure for the mirrors to
>>>> get rid of some historical grown limitations and complexity.
>>>>
>>>> I want to continue this and come to a final result.
>>>>
>>>> Current situation:
>>>>
>>>> - Mostly it's about to differenciate the files between "stable" for en-US
>>>> files only and "localized" for all other languages.
>>>>
>>>> - Due to Apache policy the source files must not be distributed by mirrors,
>>>> but have to be offered from Apache servers only.
>>>
>>> Is that actually true?  I thought it was fine to distribute our source
>>> tarballs via the Apache mirror network.  The things that must be
>>> distributed from the Apache dist server are the hash files and
>>> detached signature files.
>>
>> You are right, I've checked this with the current downloads. So, it can stay as it is now.
>>
>>>> New naming structure:
>>>>
>>>> - A new structure could look like the following:
>>>>
>>>> <path_on_the_mirror>/<release_version>/<file_type>/<language_code>/<install_file>
>>>>
>>>> Some examples to make it more realistic:
>>>>
>>>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/
>>>> 4.0.0/binaries/en-US/Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.0_Win_x86_install_en-US.exe
>>>>
>>>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/
>>>> 4.0.0/binaries/it/Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.0_Win_x86_langpack_it.exe
>>>>
>>>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/
>>>> 4.0.0/binaries/SDK/Apache_OpenOffice-SDK_4.0.0_Win_x86_install_en-US.exe
>>>
>>> This does not match your pattern.  There is no<language-code>
>>> component to the path?
>>
>> It is, have a look for the "en-US" "it", and "SDK" pattern.
>>
>
> Maybe a typo in you example?  I see "SDK" (and "binaries") but no
> language. Surely pretending that "SDK" is a language would only
> complicate the logic.

As the SDK is distributed as "en-US" files we can put them also into 
this dir. However, don't worry about the logic. ;-)

Marcus



>>>> http://www.apache.org/dyn/aoo-closer.cgi/ooo/
>>>> 4.0.0/source/aoo-4.0.0-src.tar.bz2
>>>>
>>>> What do you think?
>>>
>>> This is fine.  Could even do without the<file_type>   directory.  If
>>> you do then directly to the<language_code>   directory, everything is
>>> clear by the file name.
>>
>> Sure, but someone (or more people) wanted to have another sub-dir. But I don't remember who it was.
>>
>>> Otherwise we end up with many directories
>>> with only a very small number of files in them.
>>
>> I don't think so. When you look at the following I wouldn't call it a small number of files:
>>
>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/localized/ar/3.4.1/
>>
>> However, I don't care. Of course we could elleminate "<file_type>" from the pattern when we could come to an agreeement.
>>
>> Marcus

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Re: [Mirror file structure][DISCUSS] Wanted: New mirror file structure for AOO 4.0

Posted by Rob Weir <ra...@gmail.com>.
On Apr 1, 2013, at 3:54 AM, "Marcus (OOo)" <ma...@wtnet.de> wrote:

> Am 04/01/2013 03:20 AM, schrieb Rob Weir:
>> On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 12:07 PM, Marcus (OOo)<ma...@wtnet.de>  wrote:
>>> Many months ago we agreed to create a new file structure for the mirrors to
>>> get rid of some historical grown limitations and complexity.
>>>
>>> I want to continue this and come to a final result.
>>>
>>> Current situation:
>>>
>>> - Mostly it's about to differenciate the files between "stable" for en-US
>>> files only and "localized" for all other languages.
>>>
>>> - Due to Apache policy the source files must not be distributed by mirrors,
>>> but have to be offered from Apache servers only.
>>
>> Is that actually true?  I thought it was fine to distribute our source
>> tarballs via the Apache mirror network.  The things that must be
>> distributed from the Apache dist server are the hash files and
>> detached signature files.
>
> You are right, I've checked this with the current downloads. So, it can stay as it is now.
>
>>> New naming structure:
>>>
>>> - A new structure could look like the following:
>>>
>>> <path_on_the_mirror>/<release_version>/<file_type>/<language_code>/<install_file>
>>>
>>> Some examples to make it more realistic:
>>>
>>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/
>>> 4.0.0/binaries/en-US/Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.0_Win_x86_install_en-US.exe
>>>
>>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/
>>> 4.0.0/binaries/it/Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.0_Win_x86_langpack_it.exe
>>>
>>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/
>>> 4.0.0/binaries/SDK/Apache_OpenOffice-SDK_4.0.0_Win_x86_install_en-US.exe
>>
>> This does not match your pattern.  There is no<language-code>
>> component to the path?
>
> It is, have a look for the "en-US" "it", and "SDK" pattern.
>

Maybe a typo in you example?  I see "SDK" (and "binaries") but no
language. Surely pretending that "SDK" is a language would only
complicate the logic.


>>> http://www.apache.org/dyn/aoo-closer.cgi/ooo/
>>> 4.0.0/source/aoo-4.0.0-src.tar.bz2
>>>
>>> What do you think?
>>
>> This is fine.  Could even do without the<file_type>  directory.  If
>> you do then directly to the<language_code>  directory, everything is
>> clear by the file name.
>
> Sure, but someone (or more people) wanted to have another sub-dir. But I don't remember who it was.
>
> > Otherwise we end up with many directories
>> with only a very small number of files in them.
>
> I don't think so. When you look at the following I wouldn't call it a small number of files:
>
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/localized/ar/3.4.1/
>
> However, I don't care. Of course we could elleminate "<file_type>" from the pattern when we could come to an agreeement.
>
> Marcus
>
>
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Re: [Mirror file structure][DISCUSS] Wanted: New mirror file structure for AOO 4.0

Posted by "Marcus (OOo)" <ma...@wtnet.de>.
Am 04/01/2013 03:20 AM, schrieb Rob Weir:
> On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 12:07 PM, Marcus (OOo)<ma...@wtnet.de>  wrote:
>> Many months ago we agreed to create a new file structure for the mirrors to
>> get rid of some historical grown limitations and complexity.
>>
>> I want to continue this and come to a final result.
>>
>> Current situation:
>>
>> - Mostly it's about to differenciate the files between "stable" for en-US
>> files only and "localized" for all other languages.
>>
>> - Due to Apache policy the source files must not be distributed by mirrors,
>> but have to be offered from Apache servers only.
>>
>
> Is that actually true?  I thought it was fine to distribute our source
> tarballs via the Apache mirror network.  The things that must be
> distributed from the Apache dist server are the hash files and
> detached signature files.

You are right, I've checked this with the current downloads. So, it can 
stay as it is now.

>> New naming structure:
>>
>> - A new structure could look like the following:
>>
>> <path_on_the_mirror>/<release_version>/<file_type>/<language_code>/<install_file>
>>
>> Some examples to make it more realistic:
>>
>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/
>> 4.0.0/binaries/en-US/Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.0_Win_x86_install_en-US.exe
>>
>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/
>> 4.0.0/binaries/it/Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.0_Win_x86_langpack_it.exe
>>
>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/
>> 4.0.0/binaries/SDK/Apache_OpenOffice-SDK_4.0.0_Win_x86_install_en-US.exe
>>
>
> This does not match your pattern.  There is no<language-code>
> component to the path?

It is, have a look for the "en-US" "it", and "SDK" pattern.

>> http://www.apache.org/dyn/aoo-closer.cgi/ooo/
>> 4.0.0/source/aoo-4.0.0-src.tar.bz2
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
>
> This is fine.  Could even do without the<file_type>  directory.  If
> you do then directly to the<language_code>  directory, everything is
> clear by the file name.

Sure, but someone (or more people) wanted to have another sub-dir. But I 
don't remember who it was.

 > Otherwise we end up with many directories
> with only a very small number of files in them.

I don't think so. When you look at the following I wouldn't call it a 
small number of files:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/localized/ar/3.4.1/

However, I don't care. Of course we could elleminate "<file_type>" from 
the pattern when we could come to an agreeement.

Marcus


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Re: [Mirror file structure][DISCUSS] Wanted: New mirror file structure for AOO 4.0

Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 12:07 PM, Marcus (OOo) <ma...@wtnet.de> wrote:
> Many months ago we agreed to create a new file structure for the mirrors to
> get rid of some historical grown limitations and complexity.
>
> I want to continue this and come to a final result.
>
> Current situation:
>
> - Mostly it's about to differenciate the files between "stable" for en-US
> files only and "localized" for all other languages.
>
> - Due to Apache policy the source files must not be distributed by mirrors,
> but have to be offered from Apache servers only.
>

Is that actually true?  I thought it was fine to distribute our source
tarballs via the Apache mirror network.  The things that must be
distributed from the Apache dist server are the hash files and
detached signature files.

> New naming structure:
>
> - A new structure could look like the following:
>
> <path_on_the_mirror>/<release_version>/<file_type>/<language_code>/<install_file>
>
> Some examples to make it more realistic:
>
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/
> 4.0.0/binaries/en-US/Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.0_Win_x86_install_en-US.exe
>
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/
> 4.0.0/binaries/it/Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.0_Win_x86_langpack_it.exe
>
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/
> 4.0.0/binaries/SDK/Apache_OpenOffice-SDK_4.0.0_Win_x86_install_en-US.exe
>

This does not match your pattern.  There is no <language-code>
component to the path?

> http://www.apache.org/dyn/aoo-closer.cgi/ooo/
> 4.0.0/source/aoo-4.0.0-src.tar.bz2
>
> What do you think?
>

This is fine.  Could even do without the <file_type> directory.  If
you do then directly to the <language_code> directory, everything is
clear by the file name.  Otherwise we end up with many directories
with only a very small number of files in them.

-Rob

> Thanks
>
> Marcus
>
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Re: [Mirror file structure][DISCUSS] Wanted: New mirror file structure for AOO 4.0

Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
On 31/03/2013 Marcus (OOo) wrote:
> - A new structure could look like the following:
> <path_on_the_mirror>/<release_version>/<file_type>/<language_code>/<install_file>
> Some examples to make it more realistic:
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/
> 4.0.0/binaries/en-US/Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.0_Win_x86_install_en-US.exe

Good structure. It mixes the SDK and the various N-L versions, but this 
is minor (the SDK is rarely downloaded anyway).

Regards,
   Andrea.

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