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Posted to dev@fineract.apache.org by James Dailey <ja...@gmail.com> on 2018/06/26 19:04:42 UTC
Fineract intro text proposed changes
Hi all -
Fineract was contributed by Mifos.org which began life in the world of
Microfinance, however has since then expanded to a broader concept of
Financial Inclusion. And, the concept behind contributing to Apache was to
broaden the appeal even more. That is, the fineract platform is intended to
serve finTechs and any number of financial service providers. I believe
that it is important to have a landing page that aligns with that vision,
gives people a way to see their projects fitting into fineract, and I think
that the current articulation might brand the project as "microfinance
only".
To that end, I think it would be useful to be more general-purpose and more
aspirational in our introductory language, which is at the URL:
http://fineract.apache.org/
I propose this *new version*, which removes specific "features" (which
evolve over time) and emphasizes functional areas.
https://goo.gl/jQwTiw
If there is someone who wants to edit further, or comment, please do so.
PMC members - how do you want to treat this? - does it require a formal
vote or can it be changed on the basis of "contribution offered, considered
by members, and accepted?", or is this a merge request?
Thanks,
James Dailey
Re: Fineract intro text proposed changes
Posted by James Dailey <ja...@gmail.com>.
Thanks.
On Tue, Jul 24, 2018, 1:18 AM Myrle Krantz <my...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hey James,
>
> Took a bit of time out of my family reunion to make this happen.
> Extra-special just for you (but also because this isn't actually hard
> to do -- I'm hoping that if you hadn't directed the request at me, one
> of the other committers would've stepped up and typed out the 6 git
> commands required. : o)
>
> Greets from the roads of England,
> Myrle
>
> On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 8:36 PM James Dailey <ja...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Myrle - could you please push this to production website?
> >
> > We hope that people will follow up from the OSCON exposure we (you, Ed
> and
> > I at OSCON) have been giving fineract and I firmly believe it is
> important
> > that the language on the front page positions the project in a good
> way...
> > it helps with the approachability of the project, making it easier for
> > others to understand why they would join and to really understand the
> > purpose of the project. This seems like a minor thing and no one has
> > objected to the text change in over two weeks.
> >
> > James
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 9:13 AM Ed Cable <ed...@mifos.org> wrote:
> >
> > > +1 from me to push as is too.
> > >
> > > Ed
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 9:12 AM James Dailey <ja...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Myrle - This is all fine by me and seems like a useful update.
> Can we
> > > > push live? - James
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 2:20 AM Myrle Krantz <my...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hey James,
> > > > >
> > > > > I made that change and several more. I've pushed them as a
> separate
> > > > > branch.
> > > > >
> > > > > All, have a look at
> > > > > https://github.com/apache/fineract-site/tree/FINERACT-639 My
> first
> > > > > changeset there is content-free. It's just a reflow, with the
> > > > > intention of making subsequent changes easier to see. If there
> are no
> > > > > objections by early next week, I'll merge that branch and it'll go
> > > > > live.
> > > > >
> > > > > Best Regards,
> > > > > Myrle
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 10:47 PM James Dailey <
> jamespdailey@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Myrle
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks. Please make that minor change if that's ok w you.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > James
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Jul 4, 2018, 7:58 AM Myrle Krantz <my...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hey James,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I saw your ICLA submission, and I love your changes. I agree
> 100%
> > > > > > > with your approach to the changes. I also see you caught a
> bug and
> > > > > > > fixed it: the link to the old incubating fineract repository.
> > > > > > > Awesome! Thank you.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I need you to change one thing though before I can merge your
> > > > changes:
> > > > > > > The mention of Mifos that you added stretches the boundaries
> of
> > > what
> > > > > > > Apache projects are allowed to do in terms of crediting
> > > organizations
> > > > > > > and companies which contribute to Apache projects. "Fineract
> code
> > > > was
> > > > > > > originally developed by contributors to Mifos.org, a US-Based
> > > Charity
> > > > > > > with a mission for financial inclusion globally." What you
> write
> > > > > > > there is true of the original code base, but it downplays the
> > > > > > > contributions of individuals who've contributed since Fineract
> > > joined
> > > > > > > Apache. If you want to say a few words about the history of
> the
> > > > > > > project, I would love to see that on a sub-page, but not on our
> > > main
> > > > > > > page.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Would you like me to fix that minor issue, or would you prefer
> to
> > > do
> > > > > > > it yourself?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Best Regards,
> > > > > > > Myrle
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > P.S. I've created an issue for the changes, in case you
> prefer to
> > > > > > > name your branch after Jira issues:
> > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FINERACT-639
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 1:17 AM James Dailey <
> > > jamespdailey@gmail.com
> > > > >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi Myrle - Ok. Got my ICLA approved and proposed a PR via
> Github.
> > > > my
> > > > > id
> > > > > > > > there is jdailey.
> > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/fineract-site/pull/12
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 1:26 PM Myrle Krantz <
> myrle@apache.org>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hey James,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > it would be easier for me to see what you're actually
> changing
> > > > if I
> > > > > > > > > could see the diff. Can you submit a PR containing your
> > > > > suggestions?
> > > > > > > > > In case you need help, follow the following steps:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 1.) Create a github account for yourself.
> > > > > > > > > 2.) Fork the repository at
> > > > https://github.com/apache/fineract-site
> > > > > > > > > 3.) (Optionally clone it to your computer locally or just
> edit
> > > > > > > > > directly on github.)
> > > > > > > > > 4.) Edit index.html to contain your changes.
> > > > > > > > > 5.) Submit a pull request (PR) via github.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I know you don't have much experience developing, but
> because
> > > > > you're
> > > > > > > > > asking for simple text changes, this is also possible for a
> > > > > > > > > non-developer who's willing to "get his hands dirty". If
> you
> > > > have
> > > > > any
> > > > > > > > > questions on the details of any of these steps, please ask.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > When you do this, anyone who is interested can review the
> PR,
> > > > make
> > > > > > > > > change suggestions directly via the same source code you
> > > > submitted,
> > > > > > > > > and finally merge the changes. Once a PR is merged, it can
> > > take
> > > > > up to
> > > > > > > > > 30 minutes for those changes to be reflected on the
> website.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Also, no matter how the change suggestion is submitted or
> > > > accepted,
> > > > > > > > > you will need to submit an ICLA to the Apache Software
> > > Foundation
> > > > > > > > > before any of your content can be accepted. You can find
> that
> > > > form
> > > > > > > > > here:
> > > > > > > > > https://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.pdf
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Best Regards,
> > > > > > > > > Myrle
> > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 9:10 PM Ed Cable <
> edcable@mifos.org>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > +1 from my side and I'm happy to make these changes to
> the
> > > > > website
> > > > > > > text
> > > > > > > > > > once agreed upon.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Ed
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 12:04 PM James Dailey <
> > > > > > > jamespdailey@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Hi all -
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Fineract was contributed by Mifos.org which began life
> in
> > > the
> > > > > > > world of
> > > > > > > > > > > Microfinance, however has since then expanded to a
> broader
> > > > > concept
> > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > > Financial Inclusion. And, the concept behind
> contributing
> > > to
> > > > > > > Apache
> > > > > > > > > was to
> > > > > > > > > > > broaden the appeal even more. That is, the fineract
> > > platform
> > > > is
> > > > > > > > > intended to
> > > > > > > > > > > serve finTechs and any number of financial service
> > > providers.
> > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > believe
> > > > > > > > > > > that it is important to have a landing page that aligns
> > > with
> > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > vision,
> > > > > > > > > > > gives people a way to see their projects fitting into
> > > > fineract,
> > > > > > > and I
> > > > > > > > > think
> > > > > > > > > > > that the current articulation might brand the project
> as
> > > > > > > "microfinance
> > > > > > > > > > > only".
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > To that end, I think it would be useful to be more
> > > > > general-purpose
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > more
> > > > > > > > > > > aspirational in our introductory language, which is at
> the
> > > > URL:
> > > > > > > > > > > http://fineract.apache.org/
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I propose this *new version*, which removes specific
> > > > "features"
> > > > > > > (which
> > > > > > > > > > > evolve over time) and emphasizes functional areas.
> > > > > > > > > > > https://goo.gl/jQwTiw
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > If there is someone who wants to edit further, or
> comment,
> > > > > please
> > > > > > > do
> > > > > > > > > so.
> > > > > > > > > > > PMC members - how do you want to treat this? - does it
> > > > require
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > formal
> > > > > > > > > > > vote or can it be changed on the basis of "contribution
> > > > > offered,
> > > > > > > > > considered
> > > > > > > > > > > by members, and accepted?", or is this a merge request?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > > > > James Dailey
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > *Ed Cable*
> > > > > > > > > > President/CEO, Mifos Initiative
> > > > > > > > > > edcable@mifos.org | Skype: edcable | Mobile:
> +1.484.477.8649
> > > <(484)%20477-8649>
> > > > > <(484)%20477-8649>
> > > > > > > > > <(484)%20477-8649>
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > *Collectively Creating a World of 3 Billion Maries | *
> > > > > > > http://mifos.org
> > > > > > > > > > <http://facebook.com/mifos> <
> http://www.twitter.com/mifos>
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > *Ed Cable*
> > > President/CEO, Mifos Initiative
> > > edcable@mifos.org | Skype: edcable | Mobile: +1.484.477.8649
> > > <(484)%20477-8649>
> > >
> > > *Collectively Creating a World of 3 Billion Maries | *http://mifos.org
> > > <http://facebook.com/mifos> <http://www.twitter.com/mifos>
> > >
>
Re: Fineract intro text proposed changes
Posted by Myrle Krantz <my...@apache.org>.
Hey James,
Took a bit of time out of my family reunion to make this happen.
Extra-special just for you (but also because this isn't actually hard
to do -- I'm hoping that if you hadn't directed the request at me, one
of the other committers would've stepped up and typed out the 6 git
commands required. : o)
Greets from the roads of England,
Myrle
On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 8:36 PM James Dailey <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Myrle - could you please push this to production website?
>
> We hope that people will follow up from the OSCON exposure we (you, Ed and
> I at OSCON) have been giving fineract and I firmly believe it is important
> that the language on the front page positions the project in a good way...
> it helps with the approachability of the project, making it easier for
> others to understand why they would join and to really understand the
> purpose of the project. This seems like a minor thing and no one has
> objected to the text change in over two weeks.
>
> James
>
> On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 9:13 AM Ed Cable <ed...@mifos.org> wrote:
>
> > +1 from me to push as is too.
> >
> > Ed
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 9:12 AM James Dailey <ja...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Myrle - This is all fine by me and seems like a useful update. Can we
> > > push live? - James
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 2:20 AM Myrle Krantz <my...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hey James,
> > > >
> > > > I made that change and several more. I've pushed them as a separate
> > > > branch.
> > > >
> > > > All, have a look at
> > > > https://github.com/apache/fineract-site/tree/FINERACT-639 My first
> > > > changeset there is content-free. It's just a reflow, with the
> > > > intention of making subsequent changes easier to see. If there are no
> > > > objections by early next week, I'll merge that branch and it'll go
> > > > live.
> > > >
> > > > Best Regards,
> > > > Myrle
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 10:47 PM James Dailey <ja...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Myrle
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks. Please make that minor change if that's ok w you.
> > > > >
> > > > > James
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Jul 4, 2018, 7:58 AM Myrle Krantz <my...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hey James,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I saw your ICLA submission, and I love your changes. I agree 100%
> > > > > > with your approach to the changes. I also see you caught a bug and
> > > > > > fixed it: the link to the old incubating fineract repository.
> > > > > > Awesome! Thank you.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I need you to change one thing though before I can merge your
> > > changes:
> > > > > > The mention of Mifos that you added stretches the boundaries of
> > what
> > > > > > Apache projects are allowed to do in terms of crediting
> > organizations
> > > > > > and companies which contribute to Apache projects. "Fineract code
> > > was
> > > > > > originally developed by contributors to Mifos.org, a US-Based
> > Charity
> > > > > > with a mission for financial inclusion globally." What you write
> > > > > > there is true of the original code base, but it downplays the
> > > > > > contributions of individuals who've contributed since Fineract
> > joined
> > > > > > Apache. If you want to say a few words about the history of the
> > > > > > project, I would love to see that on a sub-page, but not on our
> > main
> > > > > > page.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Would you like me to fix that minor issue, or would you prefer to
> > do
> > > > > > it yourself?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best Regards,
> > > > > > Myrle
> > > > > >
> > > > > > P.S. I've created an issue for the changes, in case you prefer to
> > > > > > name your branch after Jira issues:
> > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FINERACT-639
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 1:17 AM James Dailey <
> > jamespdailey@gmail.com
> > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi Myrle - Ok. Got my ICLA approved and proposed a PR via Github.
> > > my
> > > > id
> > > > > > > there is jdailey.
> > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/fineract-site/pull/12
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 1:26 PM Myrle Krantz <my...@apache.org>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hey James,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > it would be easier for me to see what you're actually changing
> > > if I
> > > > > > > > could see the diff. Can you submit a PR containing your
> > > > suggestions?
> > > > > > > > In case you need help, follow the following steps:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 1.) Create a github account for yourself.
> > > > > > > > 2.) Fork the repository at
> > > https://github.com/apache/fineract-site
> > > > > > > > 3.) (Optionally clone it to your computer locally or just edit
> > > > > > > > directly on github.)
> > > > > > > > 4.) Edit index.html to contain your changes.
> > > > > > > > 5.) Submit a pull request (PR) via github.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I know you don't have much experience developing, but because
> > > > you're
> > > > > > > > asking for simple text changes, this is also possible for a
> > > > > > > > non-developer who's willing to "get his hands dirty". If you
> > > have
> > > > any
> > > > > > > > questions on the details of any of these steps, please ask.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > When you do this, anyone who is interested can review the PR,
> > > make
> > > > > > > > change suggestions directly via the same source code you
> > > submitted,
> > > > > > > > and finally merge the changes. Once a PR is merged, it can
> > take
> > > > up to
> > > > > > > > 30 minutes for those changes to be reflected on the website.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Also, no matter how the change suggestion is submitted or
> > > accepted,
> > > > > > > > you will need to submit an ICLA to the Apache Software
> > Foundation
> > > > > > > > before any of your content can be accepted. You can find that
> > > form
> > > > > > > > here:
> > > > > > > > https://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.pdf
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Best Regards,
> > > > > > > > Myrle
> > > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 9:10 PM Ed Cable <ed...@mifos.org>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > +1 from my side and I'm happy to make these changes to the
> > > > website
> > > > > > text
> > > > > > > > > once agreed upon.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Ed
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 12:04 PM James Dailey <
> > > > > > jamespdailey@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Hi all -
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Fineract was contributed by Mifos.org which began life in
> > the
> > > > > > world of
> > > > > > > > > > Microfinance, however has since then expanded to a broader
> > > > concept
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > Financial Inclusion. And, the concept behind contributing
> > to
> > > > > > Apache
> > > > > > > > was to
> > > > > > > > > > broaden the appeal even more. That is, the fineract
> > platform
> > > is
> > > > > > > > intended to
> > > > > > > > > > serve finTechs and any number of financial service
> > providers.
> > > > I
> > > > > > > > believe
> > > > > > > > > > that it is important to have a landing page that aligns
> > with
> > > > that
> > > > > > > > vision,
> > > > > > > > > > gives people a way to see their projects fitting into
> > > fineract,
> > > > > > and I
> > > > > > > > think
> > > > > > > > > > that the current articulation might brand the project as
> > > > > > "microfinance
> > > > > > > > > > only".
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > To that end, I think it would be useful to be more
> > > > general-purpose
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > more
> > > > > > > > > > aspirational in our introductory language, which is at the
> > > URL:
> > > > > > > > > > http://fineract.apache.org/
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I propose this *new version*, which removes specific
> > > "features"
> > > > > > (which
> > > > > > > > > > evolve over time) and emphasizes functional areas.
> > > > > > > > > > https://goo.gl/jQwTiw
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > If there is someone who wants to edit further, or comment,
> > > > please
> > > > > > do
> > > > > > > > so.
> > > > > > > > > > PMC members - how do you want to treat this? - does it
> > > require
> > > > a
> > > > > > formal
> > > > > > > > > > vote or can it be changed on the basis of "contribution
> > > > offered,
> > > > > > > > considered
> > > > > > > > > > by members, and accepted?", or is this a merge request?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > > > James Dailey
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > *Ed Cable*
> > > > > > > > > President/CEO, Mifos Initiative
> > > > > > > > > edcable@mifos.org | Skype: edcable | Mobile: +1.484.477.8649
> > <(484)%20477-8649>
> > > > <(484)%20477-8649>
> > > > > > > > <(484)%20477-8649>
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > *Collectively Creating a World of 3 Billion Maries | *
> > > > > > http://mifos.org
> > > > > > > > > <http://facebook.com/mifos> <http://www.twitter.com/mifos>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > *Ed Cable*
> > President/CEO, Mifos Initiative
> > edcable@mifos.org | Skype: edcable | Mobile: +1.484.477.8649
> > <(484)%20477-8649>
> >
> > *Collectively Creating a World of 3 Billion Maries | *http://mifos.org
> > <http://facebook.com/mifos> <http://www.twitter.com/mifos>
> >
Re: Fineract intro text proposed changes
Posted by James Dailey <ja...@gmail.com>.
Hi Myrle - could you please push this to production website?
We hope that people will follow up from the OSCON exposure we (you, Ed and
I at OSCON) have been giving fineract and I firmly believe it is important
that the language on the front page positions the project in a good way...
it helps with the approachability of the project, making it easier for
others to understand why they would join and to really understand the
purpose of the project. This seems like a minor thing and no one has
objected to the text change in over two weeks.
James
On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 9:13 AM Ed Cable <ed...@mifos.org> wrote:
> +1 from me to push as is too.
>
> Ed
>
> On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 9:12 AM James Dailey <ja...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Myrle - This is all fine by me and seems like a useful update. Can we
> > push live? - James
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 2:20 AM Myrle Krantz <my...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Hey James,
> > >
> > > I made that change and several more. I've pushed them as a separate
> > > branch.
> > >
> > > All, have a look at
> > > https://github.com/apache/fineract-site/tree/FINERACT-639 My first
> > > changeset there is content-free. It's just a reflow, with the
> > > intention of making subsequent changes easier to see. If there are no
> > > objections by early next week, I'll merge that branch and it'll go
> > > live.
> > >
> > > Best Regards,
> > > Myrle
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 10:47 PM James Dailey <ja...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Myrle
> > > >
> > > > Thanks. Please make that minor change if that's ok w you.
> > > >
> > > > James
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Jul 4, 2018, 7:58 AM Myrle Krantz <my...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hey James,
> > > > >
> > > > > I saw your ICLA submission, and I love your changes. I agree 100%
> > > > > with your approach to the changes. I also see you caught a bug and
> > > > > fixed it: the link to the old incubating fineract repository.
> > > > > Awesome! Thank you.
> > > > >
> > > > > I need you to change one thing though before I can merge your
> > changes:
> > > > > The mention of Mifos that you added stretches the boundaries of
> what
> > > > > Apache projects are allowed to do in terms of crediting
> organizations
> > > > > and companies which contribute to Apache projects. "Fineract code
> > was
> > > > > originally developed by contributors to Mifos.org, a US-Based
> Charity
> > > > > with a mission for financial inclusion globally." What you write
> > > > > there is true of the original code base, but it downplays the
> > > > > contributions of individuals who've contributed since Fineract
> joined
> > > > > Apache. If you want to say a few words about the history of the
> > > > > project, I would love to see that on a sub-page, but not on our
> main
> > > > > page.
> > > > >
> > > > > Would you like me to fix that minor issue, or would you prefer to
> do
> > > > > it yourself?
> > > > >
> > > > > Best Regards,
> > > > > Myrle
> > > > >
> > > > > P.S. I've created an issue for the changes, in case you prefer to
> > > > > name your branch after Jira issues:
> > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FINERACT-639
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 1:17 AM James Dailey <
> jamespdailey@gmail.com
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Myrle - Ok. Got my ICLA approved and proposed a PR via Github.
> > my
> > > id
> > > > > > there is jdailey.
> > > > > > https://github.com/apache/fineract-site/pull/12
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 1:26 PM Myrle Krantz <my...@apache.org>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hey James,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > it would be easier for me to see what you're actually changing
> > if I
> > > > > > > could see the diff. Can you submit a PR containing your
> > > suggestions?
> > > > > > > In case you need help, follow the following steps:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 1.) Create a github account for yourself.
> > > > > > > 2.) Fork the repository at
> > https://github.com/apache/fineract-site
> > > > > > > 3.) (Optionally clone it to your computer locally or just edit
> > > > > > > directly on github.)
> > > > > > > 4.) Edit index.html to contain your changes.
> > > > > > > 5.) Submit a pull request (PR) via github.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I know you don't have much experience developing, but because
> > > you're
> > > > > > > asking for simple text changes, this is also possible for a
> > > > > > > non-developer who's willing to "get his hands dirty". If you
> > have
> > > any
> > > > > > > questions on the details of any of these steps, please ask.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > When you do this, anyone who is interested can review the PR,
> > make
> > > > > > > change suggestions directly via the same source code you
> > submitted,
> > > > > > > and finally merge the changes. Once a PR is merged, it can
> take
> > > up to
> > > > > > > 30 minutes for those changes to be reflected on the website.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Also, no matter how the change suggestion is submitted or
> > accepted,
> > > > > > > you will need to submit an ICLA to the Apache Software
> Foundation
> > > > > > > before any of your content can be accepted. You can find that
> > form
> > > > > > > here:
> > > > > > > https://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.pdf
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Best Regards,
> > > > > > > Myrle
> > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 9:10 PM Ed Cable <ed...@mifos.org>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > +1 from my side and I'm happy to make these changes to the
> > > website
> > > > > text
> > > > > > > > once agreed upon.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Ed
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 12:04 PM James Dailey <
> > > > > jamespdailey@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hi all -
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Fineract was contributed by Mifos.org which began life in
> the
> > > > > world of
> > > > > > > > > Microfinance, however has since then expanded to a broader
> > > concept
> > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > Financial Inclusion. And, the concept behind contributing
> to
> > > > > Apache
> > > > > > > was to
> > > > > > > > > broaden the appeal even more. That is, the fineract
> platform
> > is
> > > > > > > intended to
> > > > > > > > > serve finTechs and any number of financial service
> providers.
> > > I
> > > > > > > believe
> > > > > > > > > that it is important to have a landing page that aligns
> with
> > > that
> > > > > > > vision,
> > > > > > > > > gives people a way to see their projects fitting into
> > fineract,
> > > > > and I
> > > > > > > think
> > > > > > > > > that the current articulation might brand the project as
> > > > > "microfinance
> > > > > > > > > only".
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > To that end, I think it would be useful to be more
> > > general-purpose
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > more
> > > > > > > > > aspirational in our introductory language, which is at the
> > URL:
> > > > > > > > > http://fineract.apache.org/
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I propose this *new version*, which removes specific
> > "features"
> > > > > (which
> > > > > > > > > evolve over time) and emphasizes functional areas.
> > > > > > > > > https://goo.gl/jQwTiw
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > If there is someone who wants to edit further, or comment,
> > > please
> > > > > do
> > > > > > > so.
> > > > > > > > > PMC members - how do you want to treat this? - does it
> > require
> > > a
> > > > > formal
> > > > > > > > > vote or can it be changed on the basis of "contribution
> > > offered,
> > > > > > > considered
> > > > > > > > > by members, and accepted?", or is this a merge request?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > > James Dailey
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > *Ed Cable*
> > > > > > > > President/CEO, Mifos Initiative
> > > > > > > > edcable@mifos.org | Skype: edcable | Mobile: +1.484.477.8649
> <(484)%20477-8649>
> > > <(484)%20477-8649>
> > > > > > > <(484)%20477-8649>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > *Collectively Creating a World of 3 Billion Maries | *
> > > > > http://mifos.org
> > > > > > > > <http://facebook.com/mifos> <http://www.twitter.com/mifos>
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> >
>
>
> --
> *Ed Cable*
> President/CEO, Mifos Initiative
> edcable@mifos.org | Skype: edcable | Mobile: +1.484.477.8649
> <(484)%20477-8649>
>
> *Collectively Creating a World of 3 Billion Maries | *http://mifos.org
> <http://facebook.com/mifos> <http://www.twitter.com/mifos>
>
Re: Fineract intro text proposed changes
Posted by Ed Cable <ed...@mifos.org>.
+1 from me to push as is too.
Ed
On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 9:12 AM James Dailey <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Myrle - This is all fine by me and seems like a useful update. Can we
> push live? - James
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 2:20 AM Myrle Krantz <my...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Hey James,
> >
> > I made that change and several more. I've pushed them as a separate
> > branch.
> >
> > All, have a look at
> > https://github.com/apache/fineract-site/tree/FINERACT-639 My first
> > changeset there is content-free. It's just a reflow, with the
> > intention of making subsequent changes easier to see. If there are no
> > objections by early next week, I'll merge that branch and it'll go
> > live.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Myrle
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 10:47 PM James Dailey <ja...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Myrle
> > >
> > > Thanks. Please make that minor change if that's ok w you.
> > >
> > > James
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jul 4, 2018, 7:58 AM Myrle Krantz <my...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hey James,
> > > >
> > > > I saw your ICLA submission, and I love your changes. I agree 100%
> > > > with your approach to the changes. I also see you caught a bug and
> > > > fixed it: the link to the old incubating fineract repository.
> > > > Awesome! Thank you.
> > > >
> > > > I need you to change one thing though before I can merge your
> changes:
> > > > The mention of Mifos that you added stretches the boundaries of what
> > > > Apache projects are allowed to do in terms of crediting organizations
> > > > and companies which contribute to Apache projects. "Fineract code
> was
> > > > originally developed by contributors to Mifos.org, a US-Based Charity
> > > > with a mission for financial inclusion globally." What you write
> > > > there is true of the original code base, but it downplays the
> > > > contributions of individuals who've contributed since Fineract joined
> > > > Apache. If you want to say a few words about the history of the
> > > > project, I would love to see that on a sub-page, but not on our main
> > > > page.
> > > >
> > > > Would you like me to fix that minor issue, or would you prefer to do
> > > > it yourself?
> > > >
> > > > Best Regards,
> > > > Myrle
> > > >
> > > > P.S. I've created an issue for the changes, in case you prefer to
> > > > name your branch after Jira issues:
> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FINERACT-639
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 1:17 AM James Dailey <jamespdailey@gmail.com
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Myrle - Ok. Got my ICLA approved and proposed a PR via Github.
> my
> > id
> > > > > there is jdailey.
> > > > > https://github.com/apache/fineract-site/pull/12
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 1:26 PM Myrle Krantz <my...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hey James,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > it would be easier for me to see what you're actually changing
> if I
> > > > > > could see the diff. Can you submit a PR containing your
> > suggestions?
> > > > > > In case you need help, follow the following steps:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1.) Create a github account for yourself.
> > > > > > 2.) Fork the repository at
> https://github.com/apache/fineract-site
> > > > > > 3.) (Optionally clone it to your computer locally or just edit
> > > > > > directly on github.)
> > > > > > 4.) Edit index.html to contain your changes.
> > > > > > 5.) Submit a pull request (PR) via github.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I know you don't have much experience developing, but because
> > you're
> > > > > > asking for simple text changes, this is also possible for a
> > > > > > non-developer who's willing to "get his hands dirty". If you
> have
> > any
> > > > > > questions on the details of any of these steps, please ask.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > When you do this, anyone who is interested can review the PR,
> make
> > > > > > change suggestions directly via the same source code you
> submitted,
> > > > > > and finally merge the changes. Once a PR is merged, it can take
> > up to
> > > > > > 30 minutes for those changes to be reflected on the website.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Also, no matter how the change suggestion is submitted or
> accepted,
> > > > > > you will need to submit an ICLA to the Apache Software Foundation
> > > > > > before any of your content can be accepted. You can find that
> form
> > > > > > here:
> > > > > > https://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.pdf
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best Regards,
> > > > > > Myrle
> > > > > > On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 9:10 PM Ed Cable <ed...@mifos.org>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > +1 from my side and I'm happy to make these changes to the
> > website
> > > > text
> > > > > > > once agreed upon.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ed
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 12:04 PM James Dailey <
> > > > jamespdailey@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi all -
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Fineract was contributed by Mifos.org which began life in the
> > > > world of
> > > > > > > > Microfinance, however has since then expanded to a broader
> > concept
> > > > of
> > > > > > > > Financial Inclusion. And, the concept behind contributing to
> > > > Apache
> > > > > > was to
> > > > > > > > broaden the appeal even more. That is, the fineract platform
> is
> > > > > > intended to
> > > > > > > > serve finTechs and any number of financial service providers.
> > I
> > > > > > believe
> > > > > > > > that it is important to have a landing page that aligns with
> > that
> > > > > > vision,
> > > > > > > > gives people a way to see their projects fitting into
> fineract,
> > > > and I
> > > > > > think
> > > > > > > > that the current articulation might brand the project as
> > > > "microfinance
> > > > > > > > only".
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > To that end, I think it would be useful to be more
> > general-purpose
> > > > and
> > > > > > more
> > > > > > > > aspirational in our introductory language, which is at the
> URL:
> > > > > > > > http://fineract.apache.org/
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I propose this *new version*, which removes specific
> "features"
> > > > (which
> > > > > > > > evolve over time) and emphasizes functional areas.
> > > > > > > > https://goo.gl/jQwTiw
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > If there is someone who wants to edit further, or comment,
> > please
> > > > do
> > > > > > so.
> > > > > > > > PMC members - how do you want to treat this? - does it
> require
> > a
> > > > formal
> > > > > > > > vote or can it be changed on the basis of "contribution
> > offered,
> > > > > > considered
> > > > > > > > by members, and accepted?", or is this a merge request?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > James Dailey
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > *Ed Cable*
> > > > > > > President/CEO, Mifos Initiative
> > > > > > > edcable@mifos.org | Skype: edcable | Mobile: +1.484.477.8649
> > <(484)%20477-8649>
> > > > > > <(484)%20477-8649>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > *Collectively Creating a World of 3 Billion Maries | *
> > > > http://mifos.org
> > > > > > > <http://facebook.com/mifos> <http://www.twitter.com/mifos>
> > > > > >
> > > >
> >
>
--
*Ed Cable*
President/CEO, Mifos Initiative
edcable@mifos.org | Skype: edcable | Mobile: +1.484.477.8649
*Collectively Creating a World of 3 Billion Maries | *http://mifos.org
<http://facebook.com/mifos> <http://www.twitter.com/mifos>
Re: Fineract intro text proposed changes
Posted by James Dailey <ja...@gmail.com>.
Hi Myrle - This is all fine by me and seems like a useful update. Can we
push live? - James
On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 2:20 AM Myrle Krantz <my...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hey James,
>
> I made that change and several more. I've pushed them as a separate
> branch.
>
> All, have a look at
> https://github.com/apache/fineract-site/tree/FINERACT-639 My first
> changeset there is content-free. It's just a reflow, with the
> intention of making subsequent changes easier to see. If there are no
> objections by early next week, I'll merge that branch and it'll go
> live.
>
> Best Regards,
> Myrle
>
> On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 10:47 PM James Dailey <ja...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Myrle
> >
> > Thanks. Please make that minor change if that's ok w you.
> >
> > James
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 4, 2018, 7:58 AM Myrle Krantz <my...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Hey James,
> > >
> > > I saw your ICLA submission, and I love your changes. I agree 100%
> > > with your approach to the changes. I also see you caught a bug and
> > > fixed it: the link to the old incubating fineract repository.
> > > Awesome! Thank you.
> > >
> > > I need you to change one thing though before I can merge your changes:
> > > The mention of Mifos that you added stretches the boundaries of what
> > > Apache projects are allowed to do in terms of crediting organizations
> > > and companies which contribute to Apache projects. "Fineract code was
> > > originally developed by contributors to Mifos.org, a US-Based Charity
> > > with a mission for financial inclusion globally." What you write
> > > there is true of the original code base, but it downplays the
> > > contributions of individuals who've contributed since Fineract joined
> > > Apache. If you want to say a few words about the history of the
> > > project, I would love to see that on a sub-page, but not on our main
> > > page.
> > >
> > > Would you like me to fix that minor issue, or would you prefer to do
> > > it yourself?
> > >
> > > Best Regards,
> > > Myrle
> > >
> > > P.S. I've created an issue for the changes, in case you prefer to
> > > name your branch after Jira issues:
> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FINERACT-639
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 1:17 AM James Dailey <ja...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Myrle - Ok. Got my ICLA approved and proposed a PR via Github. my
> id
> > > > there is jdailey.
> > > > https://github.com/apache/fineract-site/pull/12
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 1:26 PM Myrle Krantz <my...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hey James,
> > > > >
> > > > > it would be easier for me to see what you're actually changing if I
> > > > > could see the diff. Can you submit a PR containing your
> suggestions?
> > > > > In case you need help, follow the following steps:
> > > > >
> > > > > 1.) Create a github account for yourself.
> > > > > 2.) Fork the repository at https://github.com/apache/fineract-site
> > > > > 3.) (Optionally clone it to your computer locally or just edit
> > > > > directly on github.)
> > > > > 4.) Edit index.html to contain your changes.
> > > > > 5.) Submit a pull request (PR) via github.
> > > > >
> > > > > I know you don't have much experience developing, but because
> you're
> > > > > asking for simple text changes, this is also possible for a
> > > > > non-developer who's willing to "get his hands dirty". If you have
> any
> > > > > questions on the details of any of these steps, please ask.
> > > > >
> > > > > When you do this, anyone who is interested can review the PR, make
> > > > > change suggestions directly via the same source code you submitted,
> > > > > and finally merge the changes. Once a PR is merged, it can take
> up to
> > > > > 30 minutes for those changes to be reflected on the website.
> > > > >
> > > > > Also, no matter how the change suggestion is submitted or accepted,
> > > > > you will need to submit an ICLA to the Apache Software Foundation
> > > > > before any of your content can be accepted. You can find that form
> > > > > here:
> > > > > https://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.pdf
> > > > >
> > > > > Best Regards,
> > > > > Myrle
> > > > > On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 9:10 PM Ed Cable <ed...@mifos.org>
> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > +1 from my side and I'm happy to make these changes to the
> website
> > > text
> > > > > > once agreed upon.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ed
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 12:04 PM James Dailey <
> > > jamespdailey@gmail.com>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi all -
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Fineract was contributed by Mifos.org which began life in the
> > > world of
> > > > > > > Microfinance, however has since then expanded to a broader
> concept
> > > of
> > > > > > > Financial Inclusion. And, the concept behind contributing to
> > > Apache
> > > > > was to
> > > > > > > broaden the appeal even more. That is, the fineract platform is
> > > > > intended to
> > > > > > > serve finTechs and any number of financial service providers.
> I
> > > > > believe
> > > > > > > that it is important to have a landing page that aligns with
> that
> > > > > vision,
> > > > > > > gives people a way to see their projects fitting into fineract,
> > > and I
> > > > > think
> > > > > > > that the current articulation might brand the project as
> > > "microfinance
> > > > > > > only".
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > To that end, I think it would be useful to be more
> general-purpose
> > > and
> > > > > more
> > > > > > > aspirational in our introductory language, which is at the URL:
> > > > > > > http://fineract.apache.org/
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I propose this *new version*, which removes specific "features"
> > > (which
> > > > > > > evolve over time) and emphasizes functional areas.
> > > > > > > https://goo.gl/jQwTiw
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If there is someone who wants to edit further, or comment,
> please
> > > do
> > > > > so.
> > > > > > > PMC members - how do you want to treat this? - does it require
> a
> > > formal
> > > > > > > vote or can it be changed on the basis of "contribution
> offered,
> > > > > considered
> > > > > > > by members, and accepted?", or is this a merge request?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > James Dailey
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > *Ed Cable*
> > > > > > President/CEO, Mifos Initiative
> > > > > > edcable@mifos.org | Skype: edcable | Mobile: +1.484.477.8649
> <(484)%20477-8649>
> > > > > <(484)%20477-8649>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > *Collectively Creating a World of 3 Billion Maries | *
> > > http://mifos.org
> > > > > > <http://facebook.com/mifos> <http://www.twitter.com/mifos>
> > > > >
> > >
>
Re: Fineract intro text proposed changes
Posted by Myrle Krantz <my...@apache.org>.
Hey James,
I made that change and several more. I've pushed them as a separate branch.
All, have a look at
https://github.com/apache/fineract-site/tree/FINERACT-639 My first
changeset there is content-free. It's just a reflow, with the
intention of making subsequent changes easier to see. If there are no
objections by early next week, I'll merge that branch and it'll go
live.
Best Regards,
Myrle
On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 10:47 PM James Dailey <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Myrle
>
> Thanks. Please make that minor change if that's ok w you.
>
> James
>
> On Wed, Jul 4, 2018, 7:58 AM Myrle Krantz <my...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Hey James,
> >
> > I saw your ICLA submission, and I love your changes. I agree 100%
> > with your approach to the changes. I also see you caught a bug and
> > fixed it: the link to the old incubating fineract repository.
> > Awesome! Thank you.
> >
> > I need you to change one thing though before I can merge your changes:
> > The mention of Mifos that you added stretches the boundaries of what
> > Apache projects are allowed to do in terms of crediting organizations
> > and companies which contribute to Apache projects. "Fineract code was
> > originally developed by contributors to Mifos.org, a US-Based Charity
> > with a mission for financial inclusion globally." What you write
> > there is true of the original code base, but it downplays the
> > contributions of individuals who've contributed since Fineract joined
> > Apache. If you want to say a few words about the history of the
> > project, I would love to see that on a sub-page, but not on our main
> > page.
> >
> > Would you like me to fix that minor issue, or would you prefer to do
> > it yourself?
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Myrle
> >
> > P.S. I've created an issue for the changes, in case you prefer to
> > name your branch after Jira issues:
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FINERACT-639
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 1:17 AM James Dailey <ja...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Myrle - Ok. Got my ICLA approved and proposed a PR via Github. my id
> > > there is jdailey.
> > > https://github.com/apache/fineract-site/pull/12
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 1:26 PM Myrle Krantz <my...@apache.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hey James,
> > > >
> > > > it would be easier for me to see what you're actually changing if I
> > > > could see the diff. Can you submit a PR containing your suggestions?
> > > > In case you need help, follow the following steps:
> > > >
> > > > 1.) Create a github account for yourself.
> > > > 2.) Fork the repository at https://github.com/apache/fineract-site
> > > > 3.) (Optionally clone it to your computer locally or just edit
> > > > directly on github.)
> > > > 4.) Edit index.html to contain your changes.
> > > > 5.) Submit a pull request (PR) via github.
> > > >
> > > > I know you don't have much experience developing, but because you're
> > > > asking for simple text changes, this is also possible for a
> > > > non-developer who's willing to "get his hands dirty". If you have any
> > > > questions on the details of any of these steps, please ask.
> > > >
> > > > When you do this, anyone who is interested can review the PR, make
> > > > change suggestions directly via the same source code you submitted,
> > > > and finally merge the changes. Once a PR is merged, it can take up to
> > > > 30 minutes for those changes to be reflected on the website.
> > > >
> > > > Also, no matter how the change suggestion is submitted or accepted,
> > > > you will need to submit an ICLA to the Apache Software Foundation
> > > > before any of your content can be accepted. You can find that form
> > > > here:
> > > > https://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.pdf
> > > >
> > > > Best Regards,
> > > > Myrle
> > > > On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 9:10 PM Ed Cable <ed...@mifos.org> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > +1 from my side and I'm happy to make these changes to the website
> > text
> > > > > once agreed upon.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ed
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 12:04 PM James Dailey <
> > jamespdailey@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi all -
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Fineract was contributed by Mifos.org which began life in the
> > world of
> > > > > > Microfinance, however has since then expanded to a broader concept
> > of
> > > > > > Financial Inclusion. And, the concept behind contributing to
> > Apache
> > > > was to
> > > > > > broaden the appeal even more. That is, the fineract platform is
> > > > intended to
> > > > > > serve finTechs and any number of financial service providers. I
> > > > believe
> > > > > > that it is important to have a landing page that aligns with that
> > > > vision,
> > > > > > gives people a way to see their projects fitting into fineract,
> > and I
> > > > think
> > > > > > that the current articulation might brand the project as
> > "microfinance
> > > > > > only".
> > > > > >
> > > > > > To that end, I think it would be useful to be more general-purpose
> > and
> > > > more
> > > > > > aspirational in our introductory language, which is at the URL:
> > > > > > http://fineract.apache.org/
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I propose this *new version*, which removes specific "features"
> > (which
> > > > > > evolve over time) and emphasizes functional areas.
> > > > > > https://goo.gl/jQwTiw
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If there is someone who wants to edit further, or comment, please
> > do
> > > > so.
> > > > > > PMC members - how do you want to treat this? - does it require a
> > formal
> > > > > > vote or can it be changed on the basis of "contribution offered,
> > > > considered
> > > > > > by members, and accepted?", or is this a merge request?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > James Dailey
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > *Ed Cable*
> > > > > President/CEO, Mifos Initiative
> > > > > edcable@mifos.org | Skype: edcable | Mobile: +1.484.477.8649
> > > > <(484)%20477-8649>
> > > > >
> > > > > *Collectively Creating a World of 3 Billion Maries | *
> > http://mifos.org
> > > > > <http://facebook.com/mifos> <http://www.twitter.com/mifos>
> > > >
> >
Re: Fineract intro text proposed changes
Posted by James Dailey <ja...@gmail.com>.
Hi Myrle
Thanks. Please make that minor change if that's ok w you.
James
On Wed, Jul 4, 2018, 7:58 AM Myrle Krantz <my...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hey James,
>
> I saw your ICLA submission, and I love your changes. I agree 100%
> with your approach to the changes. I also see you caught a bug and
> fixed it: the link to the old incubating fineract repository.
> Awesome! Thank you.
>
> I need you to change one thing though before I can merge your changes:
> The mention of Mifos that you added stretches the boundaries of what
> Apache projects are allowed to do in terms of crediting organizations
> and companies which contribute to Apache projects. "Fineract code was
> originally developed by contributors to Mifos.org, a US-Based Charity
> with a mission for financial inclusion globally." What you write
> there is true of the original code base, but it downplays the
> contributions of individuals who've contributed since Fineract joined
> Apache. If you want to say a few words about the history of the
> project, I would love to see that on a sub-page, but not on our main
> page.
>
> Would you like me to fix that minor issue, or would you prefer to do
> it yourself?
>
> Best Regards,
> Myrle
>
> P.S. I've created an issue for the changes, in case you prefer to
> name your branch after Jira issues:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FINERACT-639
>
> On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 1:17 AM James Dailey <ja...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Myrle - Ok. Got my ICLA approved and proposed a PR via Github. my id
> > there is jdailey.
> > https://github.com/apache/fineract-site/pull/12
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 1:26 PM Myrle Krantz <my...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Hey James,
> > >
> > > it would be easier for me to see what you're actually changing if I
> > > could see the diff. Can you submit a PR containing your suggestions?
> > > In case you need help, follow the following steps:
> > >
> > > 1.) Create a github account for yourself.
> > > 2.) Fork the repository at https://github.com/apache/fineract-site
> > > 3.) (Optionally clone it to your computer locally or just edit
> > > directly on github.)
> > > 4.) Edit index.html to contain your changes.
> > > 5.) Submit a pull request (PR) via github.
> > >
> > > I know you don't have much experience developing, but because you're
> > > asking for simple text changes, this is also possible for a
> > > non-developer who's willing to "get his hands dirty". If you have any
> > > questions on the details of any of these steps, please ask.
> > >
> > > When you do this, anyone who is interested can review the PR, make
> > > change suggestions directly via the same source code you submitted,
> > > and finally merge the changes. Once a PR is merged, it can take up to
> > > 30 minutes for those changes to be reflected on the website.
> > >
> > > Also, no matter how the change suggestion is submitted or accepted,
> > > you will need to submit an ICLA to the Apache Software Foundation
> > > before any of your content can be accepted. You can find that form
> > > here:
> > > https://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.pdf
> > >
> > > Best Regards,
> > > Myrle
> > > On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 9:10 PM Ed Cable <ed...@mifos.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > +1 from my side and I'm happy to make these changes to the website
> text
> > > > once agreed upon.
> > > >
> > > > Ed
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 12:04 PM James Dailey <
> jamespdailey@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi all -
> > > > >
> > > > > Fineract was contributed by Mifos.org which began life in the
> world of
> > > > > Microfinance, however has since then expanded to a broader concept
> of
> > > > > Financial Inclusion. And, the concept behind contributing to
> Apache
> > > was to
> > > > > broaden the appeal even more. That is, the fineract platform is
> > > intended to
> > > > > serve finTechs and any number of financial service providers. I
> > > believe
> > > > > that it is important to have a landing page that aligns with that
> > > vision,
> > > > > gives people a way to see their projects fitting into fineract,
> and I
> > > think
> > > > > that the current articulation might brand the project as
> "microfinance
> > > > > only".
> > > > >
> > > > > To that end, I think it would be useful to be more general-purpose
> and
> > > more
> > > > > aspirational in our introductory language, which is at the URL:
> > > > > http://fineract.apache.org/
> > > > >
> > > > > I propose this *new version*, which removes specific "features"
> (which
> > > > > evolve over time) and emphasizes functional areas.
> > > > > https://goo.gl/jQwTiw
> > > > >
> > > > > If there is someone who wants to edit further, or comment, please
> do
> > > so.
> > > > > PMC members - how do you want to treat this? - does it require a
> formal
> > > > > vote or can it be changed on the basis of "contribution offered,
> > > considered
> > > > > by members, and accepted?", or is this a merge request?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > James Dailey
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > *Ed Cable*
> > > > President/CEO, Mifos Initiative
> > > > edcable@mifos.org | Skype: edcable | Mobile: +1.484.477.8649
> > > <(484)%20477-8649>
> > > >
> > > > *Collectively Creating a World of 3 Billion Maries | *
> http://mifos.org
> > > > <http://facebook.com/mifos> <http://www.twitter.com/mifos>
> > >
>
Re: Fineract intro text proposed changes
Posted by Myrle Krantz <my...@apache.org>.
Hey James,
I saw your ICLA submission, and I love your changes. I agree 100%
with your approach to the changes. I also see you caught a bug and
fixed it: the link to the old incubating fineract repository.
Awesome! Thank you.
I need you to change one thing though before I can merge your changes:
The mention of Mifos that you added stretches the boundaries of what
Apache projects are allowed to do in terms of crediting organizations
and companies which contribute to Apache projects. "Fineract code was
originally developed by contributors to Mifos.org, a US-Based Charity
with a mission for financial inclusion globally." What you write
there is true of the original code base, but it downplays the
contributions of individuals who've contributed since Fineract joined
Apache. If you want to say a few words about the history of the
project, I would love to see that on a sub-page, but not on our main
page.
Would you like me to fix that minor issue, or would you prefer to do
it yourself?
Best Regards,
Myrle
P.S. I've created an issue for the changes, in case you prefer to
name your branch after Jira issues:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FINERACT-639
On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 1:17 AM James Dailey <ja...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Myrle - Ok. Got my ICLA approved and proposed a PR via Github. my id
> there is jdailey.
> https://github.com/apache/fineract-site/pull/12
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 1:26 PM Myrle Krantz <my...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Hey James,
> >
> > it would be easier for me to see what you're actually changing if I
> > could see the diff. Can you submit a PR containing your suggestions?
> > In case you need help, follow the following steps:
> >
> > 1.) Create a github account for yourself.
> > 2.) Fork the repository at https://github.com/apache/fineract-site
> > 3.) (Optionally clone it to your computer locally or just edit
> > directly on github.)
> > 4.) Edit index.html to contain your changes.
> > 5.) Submit a pull request (PR) via github.
> >
> > I know you don't have much experience developing, but because you're
> > asking for simple text changes, this is also possible for a
> > non-developer who's willing to "get his hands dirty". If you have any
> > questions on the details of any of these steps, please ask.
> >
> > When you do this, anyone who is interested can review the PR, make
> > change suggestions directly via the same source code you submitted,
> > and finally merge the changes. Once a PR is merged, it can take up to
> > 30 minutes for those changes to be reflected on the website.
> >
> > Also, no matter how the change suggestion is submitted or accepted,
> > you will need to submit an ICLA to the Apache Software Foundation
> > before any of your content can be accepted. You can find that form
> > here:
> > https://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.pdf
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Myrle
> > On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 9:10 PM Ed Cable <ed...@mifos.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > +1 from my side and I'm happy to make these changes to the website text
> > > once agreed upon.
> > >
> > > Ed
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 12:04 PM James Dailey <ja...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi all -
> > > >
> > > > Fineract was contributed by Mifos.org which began life in the world of
> > > > Microfinance, however has since then expanded to a broader concept of
> > > > Financial Inclusion. And, the concept behind contributing to Apache
> > was to
> > > > broaden the appeal even more. That is, the fineract platform is
> > intended to
> > > > serve finTechs and any number of financial service providers. I
> > believe
> > > > that it is important to have a landing page that aligns with that
> > vision,
> > > > gives people a way to see their projects fitting into fineract, and I
> > think
> > > > that the current articulation might brand the project as "microfinance
> > > > only".
> > > >
> > > > To that end, I think it would be useful to be more general-purpose and
> > more
> > > > aspirational in our introductory language, which is at the URL:
> > > > http://fineract.apache.org/
> > > >
> > > > I propose this *new version*, which removes specific "features" (which
> > > > evolve over time) and emphasizes functional areas.
> > > > https://goo.gl/jQwTiw
> > > >
> > > > If there is someone who wants to edit further, or comment, please do
> > so.
> > > > PMC members - how do you want to treat this? - does it require a formal
> > > > vote or can it be changed on the basis of "contribution offered,
> > considered
> > > > by members, and accepted?", or is this a merge request?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > James Dailey
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > *Ed Cable*
> > > President/CEO, Mifos Initiative
> > > edcable@mifos.org | Skype: edcable | Mobile: +1.484.477.8649
> > <(484)%20477-8649>
> > >
> > > *Collectively Creating a World of 3 Billion Maries | *http://mifos.org
> > > <http://facebook.com/mifos> <http://www.twitter.com/mifos>
> >
Re: Fineract intro text proposed changes
Posted by James Dailey <ja...@gmail.com>.
Hi Myrle - Ok. Got my ICLA approved and proposed a PR via Github. my id
there is jdailey.
https://github.com/apache/fineract-site/pull/12
On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 1:26 PM Myrle Krantz <my...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hey James,
>
> it would be easier for me to see what you're actually changing if I
> could see the diff. Can you submit a PR containing your suggestions?
> In case you need help, follow the following steps:
>
> 1.) Create a github account for yourself.
> 2.) Fork the repository at https://github.com/apache/fineract-site
> 3.) (Optionally clone it to your computer locally or just edit
> directly on github.)
> 4.) Edit index.html to contain your changes.
> 5.) Submit a pull request (PR) via github.
>
> I know you don't have much experience developing, but because you're
> asking for simple text changes, this is also possible for a
> non-developer who's willing to "get his hands dirty". If you have any
> questions on the details of any of these steps, please ask.
>
> When you do this, anyone who is interested can review the PR, make
> change suggestions directly via the same source code you submitted,
> and finally merge the changes. Once a PR is merged, it can take up to
> 30 minutes for those changes to be reflected on the website.
>
> Also, no matter how the change suggestion is submitted or accepted,
> you will need to submit an ICLA to the Apache Software Foundation
> before any of your content can be accepted. You can find that form
> here:
> https://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.pdf
>
> Best Regards,
> Myrle
> On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 9:10 PM Ed Cable <ed...@mifos.org> wrote:
> >
> > +1 from my side and I'm happy to make these changes to the website text
> > once agreed upon.
> >
> > Ed
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 12:04 PM James Dailey <ja...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all -
> > >
> > > Fineract was contributed by Mifos.org which began life in the world of
> > > Microfinance, however has since then expanded to a broader concept of
> > > Financial Inclusion. And, the concept behind contributing to Apache
> was to
> > > broaden the appeal even more. That is, the fineract platform is
> intended to
> > > serve finTechs and any number of financial service providers. I
> believe
> > > that it is important to have a landing page that aligns with that
> vision,
> > > gives people a way to see their projects fitting into fineract, and I
> think
> > > that the current articulation might brand the project as "microfinance
> > > only".
> > >
> > > To that end, I think it would be useful to be more general-purpose and
> more
> > > aspirational in our introductory language, which is at the URL:
> > > http://fineract.apache.org/
> > >
> > > I propose this *new version*, which removes specific "features" (which
> > > evolve over time) and emphasizes functional areas.
> > > https://goo.gl/jQwTiw
> > >
> > > If there is someone who wants to edit further, or comment, please do
> so.
> > > PMC members - how do you want to treat this? - does it require a formal
> > > vote or can it be changed on the basis of "contribution offered,
> considered
> > > by members, and accepted?", or is this a merge request?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > James Dailey
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > *Ed Cable*
> > President/CEO, Mifos Initiative
> > edcable@mifos.org | Skype: edcable | Mobile: +1.484.477.8649
> <(484)%20477-8649>
> >
> > *Collectively Creating a World of 3 Billion Maries | *http://mifos.org
> > <http://facebook.com/mifos> <http://www.twitter.com/mifos>
>
Re: Fineract intro text proposed changes
Posted by Myrle Krantz <my...@apache.org>.
Hey James,
it would be easier for me to see what you're actually changing if I
could see the diff. Can you submit a PR containing your suggestions?
In case you need help, follow the following steps:
1.) Create a github account for yourself.
2.) Fork the repository at https://github.com/apache/fineract-site
3.) (Optionally clone it to your computer locally or just edit
directly on github.)
4.) Edit index.html to contain your changes.
5.) Submit a pull request (PR) via github.
I know you don't have much experience developing, but because you're
asking for simple text changes, this is also possible for a
non-developer who's willing to "get his hands dirty". If you have any
questions on the details of any of these steps, please ask.
When you do this, anyone who is interested can review the PR, make
change suggestions directly via the same source code you submitted,
and finally merge the changes. Once a PR is merged, it can take up to
30 minutes for those changes to be reflected on the website.
Also, no matter how the change suggestion is submitted or accepted,
you will need to submit an ICLA to the Apache Software Foundation
before any of your content can be accepted. You can find that form
here:
https://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.pdf
Best Regards,
Myrle
On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 9:10 PM Ed Cable <ed...@mifos.org> wrote:
>
> +1 from my side and I'm happy to make these changes to the website text
> once agreed upon.
>
> Ed
>
> On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 12:04 PM James Dailey <ja...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi all -
> >
> > Fineract was contributed by Mifos.org which began life in the world of
> > Microfinance, however has since then expanded to a broader concept of
> > Financial Inclusion. And, the concept behind contributing to Apache was to
> > broaden the appeal even more. That is, the fineract platform is intended to
> > serve finTechs and any number of financial service providers. I believe
> > that it is important to have a landing page that aligns with that vision,
> > gives people a way to see their projects fitting into fineract, and I think
> > that the current articulation might brand the project as "microfinance
> > only".
> >
> > To that end, I think it would be useful to be more general-purpose and more
> > aspirational in our introductory language, which is at the URL:
> > http://fineract.apache.org/
> >
> > I propose this *new version*, which removes specific "features" (which
> > evolve over time) and emphasizes functional areas.
> > https://goo.gl/jQwTiw
> >
> > If there is someone who wants to edit further, or comment, please do so.
> > PMC members - how do you want to treat this? - does it require a formal
> > vote or can it be changed on the basis of "contribution offered, considered
> > by members, and accepted?", or is this a merge request?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > James Dailey
> >
>
>
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> *Ed Cable*
> President/CEO, Mifos Initiative
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>
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Re: Fineract intro text proposed changes
Posted by Ed Cable <ed...@mifos.org>.
+1 from my side and I'm happy to make these changes to the website text
once agreed upon.
Ed
On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 12:04 PM James Dailey <ja...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hi all -
>
> Fineract was contributed by Mifos.org which began life in the world of
> Microfinance, however has since then expanded to a broader concept of
> Financial Inclusion. And, the concept behind contributing to Apache was to
> broaden the appeal even more. That is, the fineract platform is intended to
> serve finTechs and any number of financial service providers. I believe
> that it is important to have a landing page that aligns with that vision,
> gives people a way to see their projects fitting into fineract, and I think
> that the current articulation might brand the project as "microfinance
> only".
>
> To that end, I think it would be useful to be more general-purpose and more
> aspirational in our introductory language, which is at the URL:
> http://fineract.apache.org/
>
> I propose this *new version*, which removes specific "features" (which
> evolve over time) and emphasizes functional areas.
> https://goo.gl/jQwTiw
>
> If there is someone who wants to edit further, or comment, please do so.
> PMC members - how do you want to treat this? - does it require a formal
> vote or can it be changed on the basis of "contribution offered, considered
> by members, and accepted?", or is this a merge request?
>
> Thanks,
> James Dailey
>
--
*Ed Cable*
President/CEO, Mifos Initiative
edcable@mifos.org | Skype: edcable | Mobile: +1.484.477.8649
*Collectively Creating a World of 3 Billion Maries | *http://mifos.org
<http://facebook.com/mifos> <http://www.twitter.com/mifos>