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Posted to dev@openoffice.apache.org by Rob Weir <ap...@robweir.com> on 2011/07/08 15:41:31 UTC
ooo-dev list subscriber stats?
Is there a way for list moderators to get a tally of list subscribers?
Or is this an admin permission?
I'm interesting in knowing how many people are currently subscribed,
especially a sense of the ratio of "lurkers" to active participants,
contributors to users, etc. This could be one indication of whether
we are ready for a ooo-user list now.
-Rob
RE: ooo-dev list subscriber stats?
Posted by "Dennis E. Hamilton" <de...@acm.org>.
For balance, I recommend lurking on [libreoffice-users] and [libreoffice-documentation]. The developers list (counterpart of ooo-dev, right down to patch pushing), [libreoffice] is part of a separate system. This list is useful, especially for the tech steering committee minutes, and it may provide more visibility on issues that are being addressed in current builds, betas, and release candidates there.
For reasons that escape me, there are user, documentation and technical issues on the steering-discuss@documentfoundation.org and some on the discuss@documentfoundation.org lists too.
- Dennis
PS: I have not seen any discussion of Apache OOo recently on any of these.
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Fisher [mailto:dave2wave@comcast.net]
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 06:53
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: ooo-dev list subscriber stats?
On Jul 8, 2011, at 6:41 AM, Rob Weir wrote:
> Is there a way for list moderators to get a tally of list subscribers?
> Or is this an admin permission?
On another thread and list I saw this:
"Email ooo-dev-help@ from your moderator address for more information."
> I'm interesting in knowing how many people are currently subscribed,
> especially a sense of the ratio of "lurkers" to active participants,
> contributors to users, etc. This could be one indication of whether
> we are ready for a ooo-user list now.
I have been lurking on users@openoffice.org - there have been approximately 130 emails since June 24. Not a very high volume I haven't seen anything regarding Apache OOo.
Regards,
Dave=
Re: ooo-dev list subscriber stats?
Posted by Rob Weir <ap...@robweir.com>.
On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 10:06 AM, Sam Ruby <ru...@intertwingly.net> wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 9:52 AM, Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> On Jul 8, 2011, at 6:41 AM, Rob Weir wrote:
>>
>>> Is there a way for list moderators to get a tally of list subscribers?
>>> Or is this an admin permission?
>>
>> On another thread and list I saw this:
>>
>> "Email ooo-dev-help@ from your moderator address for more information."
>
> The man page for ezmlm is also online:
>
> http://www.ezmlm.org/ezman/ezman2.html#ss2.6
>
>>> I'm interesting in knowing how many people are currently subscribed,
>>> especially a sense of the ratio of "lurkers" to active participants,
>>> contributors to users, etc. This could be one indication of whether
>>> we are ready for a ooo-user list now.
>
> You might also find the following to be helpful:
>
> http://pulse.apache.org/#ooo-dev_at_incubator.apache.org
>
Thanks, even better. Someone has already crunched the numbers.
>> I have been lurking on users@openoffice.org - there have been approximately 130 emails since June 24. Not a very high volume I haven't seen anything regarding Apache OOo.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>
> - Sam Ruby
>
Re: ooo-dev list subscriber stats?
Posted by Sam Ruby <ru...@intertwingly.net>.
On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 9:52 AM, Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> On Jul 8, 2011, at 6:41 AM, Rob Weir wrote:
>
>> Is there a way for list moderators to get a tally of list subscribers?
>> Or is this an admin permission?
>
> On another thread and list I saw this:
>
> "Email ooo-dev-help@ from your moderator address for more information."
The man page for ezmlm is also online:
http://www.ezmlm.org/ezman/ezman2.html#ss2.6
>> I'm interesting in knowing how many people are currently subscribed,
>> especially a sense of the ratio of "lurkers" to active participants,
>> contributors to users, etc. This could be one indication of whether
>> we are ready for a ooo-user list now.
You might also find the following to be helpful:
http://pulse.apache.org/#ooo-dev_at_incubator.apache.org
> I have been lurking on users@openoffice.org - there have been approximately 130 emails since June 24. Not a very high volume I haven't seen anything regarding Apache OOo.
>
> Regards,
> Dave
- Sam Ruby
RE: ooo-dev list subscriber stats?
Posted by "Dennis E. Hamilton" <de...@acm.org>.
+1:
"- introduce an AOOo blog so that the Community can follow our progress."
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Fisher [mailto:dave2wave@comcast.net]
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 09:44
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: ooo-dev list subscriber stats?
Hi Manfred,
> did you check all the other (not US/UK) user ML as well?
No, I did it mostly out of curiosity. Although I speak multiple computer languages, my human language skills are English with a little high school German over 30 years ago.
If others know ....
> IMHO we need a statement for all the current subscribers on the actual user
> MLs. You can hardly regain customers you lost.
Agreed. Someone should write an announcement for use to disseminate.
An announcement should probably include:
- introduce AOOo (incubating)
- a promise that all bugs, user forums, and mailing lists will be migrated carefully and people can continue as now.
- a call for developers (code and documentation) to join us on ooo-dev w/ a mention and link to the Apache Way.
- introduce an AOOo blog so that the Community can follow our progress.
Regards,
Dave
>
> ## Manfred - (android) mobil - please excuse typos
> Am 08.07.2011 15:53 schrieb "Dave Fisher" <da...@comcast.net>:
>>
>> On Jul 8, 2011, at 6:41 AM, Rob Weir wrote:
>>
>>> Is there a way for list moderators to get a tally of list subscribers?
>>> Or is this an admin permission?
>>
>> On another thread and list I saw this:
>>
>> "Email ooo-dev-help@ from your moderator address for more information."
>>
>>> I'm interesting in knowing how many people are currently subscribed,
>>> especially a sense of the ratio of "lurkers" to active participants,
>>> contributors to users, etc. This could be one indication of whether
>>> we are ready for a ooo-user list now.
>>
>> I have been lurking on users@openoffice.org - there have been
> approximately 130 emails since June 24. Not a very high volume I haven't
> seen anything regarding Apache OOo.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Dave
Re: ooo-dev list subscriber stats?
Posted by Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>.
Hi Manfred,
> did you check all the other (not US/UK) user ML as well?
No, I did it mostly out of curiosity. Although I speak multiple computer languages, my human language skills are English with a little high school German over 30 years ago.
If others know ....
> IMHO we need a statement for all the current subscribers on the actual user
> MLs. You can hardly regain customers you lost.
Agreed. Someone should write an announcement for use to disseminate.
An announcement should probably include:
- introduce AOOo (incubating)
- a promise that all bugs, user forums, and mailing lists will be migrated carefully and people can continue as now.
- a call for developers (code and documentation) to join us on ooo-dev w/ a mention and link to the Apache Way.
- introduce an AOOo blog so that the Community can follow our progress.
Regards,
Dave
>
> ## Manfred - (android) mobil - please excuse typos
> Am 08.07.2011 15:53 schrieb "Dave Fisher" <da...@comcast.net>:
>>
>> On Jul 8, 2011, at 6:41 AM, Rob Weir wrote:
>>
>>> Is there a way for list moderators to get a tally of list subscribers?
>>> Or is this an admin permission?
>>
>> On another thread and list I saw this:
>>
>> "Email ooo-dev-help@ from your moderator address for more information."
>>
>>> I'm interesting in knowing how many people are currently subscribed,
>>> especially a sense of the ratio of "lurkers" to active participants,
>>> contributors to users, etc. This could be one indication of whether
>>> we are ready for a ooo-user list now.
>>
>> I have been lurking on users@openoffice.org - there have been
> approximately 130 emails since June 24. Not a very high volume I haven't
> seen anything regarding Apache OOo.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Dave
Re: ooo-dev list subscriber stats?
Posted by "Manfred A. Reiter" <ma...@gmail.com>.
Hi Dave, *,
did you check all the other (not US/UK) user ML as well?
IMHO we need a statement for all the current subscribers on the actual user
MLs. You can hardly regain customers you lost.
## Manfred - (android) mobil - please excuse typos
Am 08.07.2011 15:53 schrieb "Dave Fisher" <da...@comcast.net>:
>
> On Jul 8, 2011, at 6:41 AM, Rob Weir wrote:
>
>> Is there a way for list moderators to get a tally of list subscribers?
>> Or is this an admin permission?
>
> On another thread and list I saw this:
>
> "Email ooo-dev-help@ from your moderator address for more information."
>
>> I'm interesting in knowing how many people are currently subscribed,
>> especially a sense of the ratio of "lurkers" to active participants,
>> contributors to users, etc. This could be one indication of whether
>> we are ready for a ooo-user list now.
>
> I have been lurking on users@openoffice.org - there have been
approximately 130 emails since June 24. Not a very high volume I haven't
seen anything regarding Apache OOo.
>
> Regards,
> Dave
RE: ooo-dev list subscriber stats?
Posted by Gavin McDonald <ga...@16degrees.com.au>.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rabastus@gmail.com [mailto:rabastus@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Rob
> Weir
> Sent: Saturday, 9 July 2011 12:41 AM
> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: ooo-dev list subscriber stats?
>
> On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 9:52 AM, Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>
> wrote:
> >
> > On Jul 8, 2011, at 6:41 AM, Rob Weir wrote:
> >
> >> Is there a way for list moderators to get a tally of list subscribers?
> >> Or is this an admin permission?
> >
> > On another thread and list I saw this:
> >
> > "Email ooo-dev-help@ from your moderator address for more
> information."
> >
>
> I did do that, and sent a note to : ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org
>
> But the response I received back did not seem to be the generic help
> response. I didn't see anything there relevant.
Please tell me what response you did get back.
Please tell me you emailed to that help address using the same email address
in which you told us to use for your moderator address.
Thanks
Gav...
>
> >> I'm interesting in knowing how many people are currently subscribed,
> >> especially a sense of the ratio of "lurkers" to active participants,
> >> contributors to users, etc. This could be one indication of whether
> >> we are ready for a ooo-user list now.
> >
> > I have been lurking on users@openoffice.org - there have been
> approximately 130 emails since June 24. Not a very high volume I haven't
> seen anything regarding Apache OOo.
> >
>
> OK. That is good to know.
>
> > Regards,
> > Dave
Re: ooo-dev list subscriber stats?
Posted by "Manfred A. Reiter" <ma...@gmail.com>.
## Manfred - (android) mobil - please excuse typos
Am 08.07.2011 16:41 schrieb "Rob Weir" <ap...@robweir.com>:
> On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 9:52 AM, Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> On Jul 8, 2011, at 6:41 AM, Rob Weir wrote:
>>
>>> Is there a way for list moderators to get a tally of list subscribers?
>>> Or is this an admin permission?
>>
>> On another thread and list I saw this:
>>
>> "Email ooo-dev-help@ from your moderator address for more information."
>>
>
> I did do that, and sent a note to : ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org
>
> But the response I received back did not seem to be the generic help
> response. I didn't see anything there relevant.
>
>>> I'm interesting in knowing how many people are currently subscribed,
>>> especially a sense of the ratio of "lurkers" to active participants,
>>> contributors to users, etc. This could be one indication of whether
>>> we are ready for a ooo-user list now.
>>
>> I have been lurking on users@openoffice.org - there have been
approximately 130 emails since June 24. Not a very high volume I haven't
seen anything regarding Apache OOo.
>>
>
> OK. That is good to know.
>
>> Regards,
>> Dave
Re: ooo-dev list subscriber stats?
Posted by Rob Weir <ap...@robweir.com>.
On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 9:52 AM, Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> On Jul 8, 2011, at 6:41 AM, Rob Weir wrote:
>
>> Is there a way for list moderators to get a tally of list subscribers?
>> Or is this an admin permission?
>
> On another thread and list I saw this:
>
> "Email ooo-dev-help@ from your moderator address for more information."
>
I did do that, and sent a note to : ooo-dev-help@incubator.apache.org
But the response I received back did not seem to be the generic help
response. I didn't see anything there relevant.
>> I'm interesting in knowing how many people are currently subscribed,
>> especially a sense of the ratio of "lurkers" to active participants,
>> contributors to users, etc. This could be one indication of whether
>> we are ready for a ooo-user list now.
>
> I have been lurking on users@openoffice.org - there have been approximately 130 emails since June 24. Not a very high volume I haven't seen anything regarding Apache OOo.
>
OK. That is good to know.
> Regards,
> Dave
Re: ooo-dev list subscriber stats?
Posted by Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>.
On Jul 8, 2011, at 6:41 AM, Rob Weir wrote:
> Is there a way for list moderators to get a tally of list subscribers?
> Or is this an admin permission?
On another thread and list I saw this:
"Email ooo-dev-help@ from your moderator address for more information."
> I'm interesting in knowing how many people are currently subscribed,
> especially a sense of the ratio of "lurkers" to active participants,
> contributors to users, etc. This could be one indication of whether
> we are ready for a ooo-user list now.
I have been lurking on users@openoffice.org - there have been approximately 130 emails since June 24. Not a very high volume I haven't seen anything regarding Apache OOo.
Regards,
Dave