1.4 RC

[Richard Frovarp <Ri...@sendit.nodak.edu>]

What's the status on a 1.4 RC? The fact that core parts of 1.4 keep 
changing is becoming a real problem and quite frustrating. I was told a 
stable 1.4 release was not far out in December 2005. I think many would 
appreciate a feature and API freeze on 1.4, so that we can have 
something stable to build on.

Thanks,

Richard

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Re: 1.4 RC

[Joern Nettingsmeier <ne...@folkwang-hochschule.de>]

Andreas Hartmann wrote:
>> next in line is getting tinymce integration into a better shape,
> 
> IMO this can be deferred.

of course. this should not be a barrier for the RC at all.

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Re: 1.4 RC

[Andreas Hartmann <an...@apache.org>]

Joern Nettingsmeier schrieb:
> Richard Frovarp wrote:
>> What's the status on a 1.4 RC? The fact that core parts of 1.4 keep
>> changing is becoming a real problem and quite frustrating. I was told
>> a stable 1.4 release was not far out in December 2005. 
> 
> welcome to the club :) watch out, i used to be a paid web systems
> builder, and now i'm a pro bono lenya committer :-D
> 
>> I think many would appreciate a feature and API freeze on 1.4, so that
>> we can have something stable to build on.
> 
> absolutely. i think andreas is best qualified to comment on the state of
> things, since he has been the most active committer lately, by a huge
> margin... and btw, i think that most of his recent changes were vital,
> even though they took some effort to track.

>From my POV we could freeze the API (apart from Joern's pending
changes).

There are some things which I'd like to have fixed before the release,
but they don't prevent us from doing an RC.


> i know i have one thing in the queue i'd like to push in before the
> freeze, and that is a consolidation and simplification of the pub
> configuration. i'll try to provide detailed upgrade guides and a
> migration script for unix-based installations.

It seems that nobody objects to these changes, so they should be
done before the RC.

> next in line is getting tinymce integration into a better shape,

IMO this can be deferred.

> but that should not be too intrusive...

[...]

> best regards, and many thanks for your many valuable contributions,

Yes, thanks a lot,

-- Andreas


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Re: 1.4 RC

[Richard Frovarp <Ri...@sendit.nodak.edu>]

Joern Nettingsmeier wrote:
> Richard Frovarp wrote:
>> What's the status on a 1.4 RC? The fact that core parts of 1.4 keep 
>> changing is becoming a real problem and quite frustrating. I was told 
>> a stable 1.4 release was not far out in December 2005. 
>
> welcome to the club :) watch out, i used to be a paid web systems 
> builder, and now i'm a pro bono lenya committer :-D
>
>> I think many would appreciate a feature and API freeze on 1.4, so 
>> that we can have something stable to build on.
>
> absolutely. i think andreas is best qualified to comment on the state 
> of things, since he has been the most active committer lately, by a 
> huge margin... and btw, i think that most of his recent changes were 
> vital, even though they took some effort to track.
>
> i know i have one thing in the queue i'd like to push in before the 
> freeze, and that is a consolidation and simplification of the pub 
> configuration. i'll try to provide detailed upgrade guides and a 
> migration script for unix-based installations. next in line is getting 
> tinymce integration into a better shape, but that should not be too 
> intrusive...
>
> since you are apparently preparing a publication for production use: 
> could you share this publication (w/o content, of course) with us for 
> testing, or does it include proprietary code?
> if i knew what features people are actually using and relying on, i 
> would do extra tests before committing anything...
>
> best regards, and many thanks for your many valuable contributions,
>
> jörn

I am using a little bit of all the standard stuff. I had to change my 
custom user type when the user code changed. I've had to change my 
usecase jx files because they have changed (trying to make the forms 
more simplified for my end users). My last build didn't insert images or 
recover from trash. I update and I can do those two items. However, now 
I see that only the last 7 revisions that are shown to choose from. And 
actually viewing a revision throws up an error. 
lenya/trunk/src/modules/xhtml/xslt/clean-xhtml.xsl isn't only called by 
Kupu, so now img tags are converted to object tags and are not 
modifiable after the first save in FCKeditor.

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Re: 1.4 RC

[Joern Nettingsmeier <ne...@folkwang-hochschule.de>]

Richard Frovarp wrote:
> What's the status on a 1.4 RC? The fact that core parts of 1.4 keep 
> changing is becoming a real problem and quite frustrating. I was told a 
> stable 1.4 release was not far out in December 2005. 

welcome to the club :) watch out, i used to be a paid web systems 
builder, and now i'm a pro bono lenya committer :-D

> I think many would 
> appreciate a feature and API freeze on 1.4, so that we can have 
> something stable to build on.

absolutely. i think andreas is best qualified to comment on the state of 
things, since he has been the most active committer lately, by a huge 
margin... and btw, i think that most of his recent changes were vital, 
even though they took some effort to track.

i know i have one thing in the queue i'd like to push in before the 
freeze, and that is a consolidation and simplification of the pub 
configuration. i'll try to provide detailed upgrade guides and a 
migration script for unix-based installations. next in line is getting 
tinymce integration into a better shape, but that should not be too 
intrusive...

since you are apparently preparing a publication for production use: 
could you share this publication (w/o content, of course) with us for 
testing, or does it include proprietary code?
if i knew what features people are actually using and relying on, i 
would do extra tests before committing anything...

best regards, and many thanks for your many valuable contributions,

jörn


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