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Posted to dev@openoffice.apache.org by "Keith N. McKenna" <ke...@comcast.net> on 2012/12/23 19:31:46 UTC
Update to merge of FAQ's from web site to mwiki
Keith N. McKenna wrote:
> Based on extended discussions on this list at:
> http://markmail.org/search/+list:org.apache.incubator.ooo-dev#query:%20list%3Aorg.apache.incubator.ooo-dev+page:1+mid:pkyogj4m45anxuxg+state:results.
> I propose to start merging and updating the User FAQ's from the website
> into the current structure on the mediawiki (mwiki) and updating the
> FAQ's already there by eliminating outdated references to version 1 and
> version 2 and any duplications.
>
> If there are no objections in 72 hours I will start merging the entries
> from the website into the mwiki.
>
> Regards
> Keith N. Mckenna
>
>
Good day all;
Just a quick update to where this mini-project is. I have jut about
finished all the modifications to the faqtoc on the mwiki. This is being
done through a copy of the template file so as to avoid multiple saves
to the template bringing the mwiki to its knees. Once the copy is
finalized the changes will be made to the actual template file and saved
once. Though tj has told me there should be no major performance hit by
doing this I will schedule it probably over a weekend when usage is
lower to (hopefully) minimize the hurt when Murphy inevitably bites.
I came across the following page http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/FAQ
that appears to be a sandbox that was started for developer FAQ's and
then abandoned. There has been no development activity on it since 2009.
Since many of the faq's on the web site are aimed towards developers, I
would like to use this page as an index page for a number of different
categories of developer faq's. I someone with a better knowledge and
background in development could take a look at the page and if there is
anything worth keeping let me know.
Regards
Keith
Re: Update to merge of FAQ's from web site to mwiki
Posted by janI <ja...@apache.org>.
On 23 December 2012 19:31, Keith N. McKenna <ke...@comcast.net>wrote:
> Keith N. McKenna wrote:
>
>> Based on extended discussions on this list at:
>> http://markmail.org/search/+**list:org.apache.incubator.ooo-**
>> dev#query:%20list%3Aorg.**apache.incubator.ooo-dev+page:**
>> 1+mid:pkyogj4m45anxuxg+state:**results<http://markmail.org/search/+list:org.apache.incubator.ooo-dev#query:%20list%3Aorg.apache.incubator.ooo-dev+page:1+mid:pkyogj4m45anxuxg+state:results>
>> .
>> I propose to start merging and updating the User FAQ's from the website
>> into the current structure on the mediawiki (mwiki) and updating the
>> FAQ's already there by eliminating outdated references to version 1 and
>> version 2 and any duplications.
>>
>> If there are no objections in 72 hours I will start merging the entries
>> from the website into the mwiki.
>>
>> Regards
>> Keith N. Mckenna
>>
>>
>> Good day all;
>
> Just a quick update to where this mini-project is. I have jut about
> finished all the modifications to the faqtoc on the mwiki. This is being
> done through a copy of the template file so as to avoid multiple saves to
> the template bringing the mwiki to its knees. Once the copy is finalized
> the changes will be made to the actual template file and saved once. Though
> tj has told me there should be no major performance hit by doing this I
> will schedule it probably over a weekend when usage is lower to (hopefully)
> minimize the hurt when Murphy inevitably bites.
>
I agree with tj, that is not a major burden for the mysql. Please be aware
that I am looking at moving wikitest to production before end of the
year...so please send me an e-mail directly, when you want to start
working, then I keep my hands off.
Jan I.
>
> I came across the following page http://wiki.openoffice.org/**wiki/FAQ<http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/FAQ>that appears to be a sandbox that was started for developer FAQ's and then
> abandoned. There has been no development activity on it since 2009. Since
> many of the faq's on the web site are aimed towards developers, I would
> like to use this page as an index page for a number of different categories
> of developer faq's. I someone with a better knowledge and background in
> development could take a look at the page and if there is anything worth
> keeping let me know.
>
> Regards
> Keith
>
>
Re: Update to merge of FAQ's from web site to mwiki
Posted by "Keith N. McKenna" <ke...@comcast.net>.
Keith N. McKenna wrote:
> Keith N. McKenna wrote:
>> Based on extended discussions on this list at:
>> http://markmail.org/search/+list:org.apache.incubator.ooo-dev#query:%20list%3Aorg.apache.incubator.ooo-dev+page:1+mid:pkyogj4m45anxuxg+state:results.
>>
>> I propose to start merging and updating the User FAQ's from the website
>> into the current structure on the mediawiki (mwiki) and updating the
>> FAQ's already there by eliminating outdated references to version 1 and
>> version 2 and any duplications.
>>
>> If there are no objections in 72 hours I will start merging the entries
>> from the website into the mwiki.
>>
>> Regards
>> Keith N. Mckenna
>>
>>
> Good day all;
>
> Just a quick update to where this mini-project is. I have jut about
> finished all the modifications to the faqtoc on the mwiki. This is being
> done through a copy of the template file so as to avoid multiple saves
> to the template bringing the mwiki to its knees. Once the copy is
> finalized the changes will be made to the actual template file and saved
> once. Though tj has told me there should be no major performance hit by
> doing this I will schedule it probably over a weekend when usage is
> lower to (hopefully) minimize the hurt when Murphy inevitably bites.
>
> I came across the following page http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/FAQ
> that appears to be a sandbox that was started for developer FAQ's and
> then abandoned. There has been no development activity on it since 2009.
> Since many of the faq's on the web site are aimed towards developers, I
> would like to use this page as an index page for a number of different
> categories of developer faq's. I someone with a better knowledge and
> background in development could take a look at the page and if there is
> anything worth keeping let me know.
>
> Regards
> Keith
>
>
Evening All;
I wanted to get back to this. Due to a change in my daughter's schedule
my time was cut that I could spend on this as I babysit my 2 year old
granddaughter. Also medical issues with both myself and my significant
other have been sneaking in.
Work has not stopped, but it has slowed more than I had hoped. The
design work of adding new categories and hierarchy are done and work is
progressing slowly on the culling and rewording. I will be spending more
time on this in the next few weeks to try and get it moving quicker
again. Hopefully in the next few days redirect can be set on the some of
the categories on the web site to the wiki.
Regards
Keith
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Re: Update to merge of FAQ's from web site to mwiki
Posted by "Keith N. McKenna" <ke...@comcast.net>.
Alexandro Colorado wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 12:31 PM, Keith N. McKenna <
> keith.mckenna@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Keith N. McKenna wrote:
>>
>>> Based on extended discussions on this list at:
>>> http://markmail.org/search/+**list:org.apache.incubator.ooo-**
>>> dev#query:%20list%3Aorg.**apache.incubator.ooo-dev+page:**
>>> 1+mid:pkyogj4m45anxuxg+state:**results<http://markmail.org/search/+list:org.apache.incubator.ooo-dev#query:%20list%3Aorg.apache.incubator.ooo-dev+page:1+mid:pkyogj4m45anxuxg+state:results>
>>> .
>>> I propose to start merging and updating the User FAQ's from the website
>>> into the current structure on the mediawiki (mwiki) and updating the
>>> FAQ's already there by eliminating outdated references to version 1 and
>>> version 2 and any duplications.
>>>
>>> If there are no objections in 72 hours I will start merging the entries
>>> from the website into the mwiki.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Keith N. Mckenna
>>>
>>>
>>> Good day all;
>>
>> Just a quick update to where this mini-project is. I have jut about
>> finished all the modifications to the faqtoc on the mwiki. This is being
>> done through a copy of the template file so as to avoid multiple saves to
>> the template bringing the mwiki to its knees. Once the copy is finalized
>> the changes will be made to the actual template file and saved once. Though
>> tj has told me there should be no major performance hit by doing this I
>> will schedule it probably over a weekend when usage is lower to (hopefully)
>> minimize the hurt when Murphy inevitably bites.
>>
>
> Awesome news, I will be having some spare time this month and the next. I
> am still need to finalize the mediawiki theme, but I sure can help if you
> need any.
>
Alexandro;
It is good to hear that you will be willing to help. Many of the FAQ's
on the web site are geared towards developers on things like the XML
format and using the API. Though I can weed out the more obvious ones, I
will need help on the others as well re-wording to reflect the realities
of today's environment. Programming and software development are not my
forte.
Keith
>
>
>>
>> I came across the following page http://wiki.openoffice.org/**wiki/FAQ<http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/FAQ>that appears to be a sandbox that was started for developer FAQ's and then
>> abandoned. There has been no development activity on it since 2009. Since
>> many of the faq's on the web site are aimed towards developers, I would
>> like to use this page as an index page for a number of different categories
>> of developer faq's. I someone with a better knowledge and background in
>> development could take a look at the page and if there is anything worth
>> keeping let me know.
>>
>
> Like there was said before, a lot of dev-oriented projects were abandoned
> when Sun/Oracle did. Many of these projects werent as widely known but is
> good to have some kind of archieve of projects that people can take over.
>
> One project that comes to mind is the www-at-odf, which started really
> awesome but then the dev left. Any person with OOBasic, PHP and some apache
> knowledge could takee it and port it, or improve it.
> http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/ODF@WWW
>
>
>>
>> Regards
>> Keith
>>
>>
>
>
Re: Update to merge of FAQ's from web site to mwiki
Posted by Alexandro Colorado <jz...@oooes.org>.
On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 12:31 PM, Keith N. McKenna <
keith.mckenna@comcast.net> wrote:
> Keith N. McKenna wrote:
>
>> Based on extended discussions on this list at:
>> http://markmail.org/search/+**list:org.apache.incubator.ooo-**
>> dev#query:%20list%3Aorg.**apache.incubator.ooo-dev+page:**
>> 1+mid:pkyogj4m45anxuxg+state:**results<http://markmail.org/search/+list:org.apache.incubator.ooo-dev#query:%20list%3Aorg.apache.incubator.ooo-dev+page:1+mid:pkyogj4m45anxuxg+state:results>
>> .
>> I propose to start merging and updating the User FAQ's from the website
>> into the current structure on the mediawiki (mwiki) and updating the
>> FAQ's already there by eliminating outdated references to version 1 and
>> version 2 and any duplications.
>>
>> If there are no objections in 72 hours I will start merging the entries
>> from the website into the mwiki.
>>
>> Regards
>> Keith N. Mckenna
>>
>>
>> Good day all;
>
> Just a quick update to where this mini-project is. I have jut about
> finished all the modifications to the faqtoc on the mwiki. This is being
> done through a copy of the template file so as to avoid multiple saves to
> the template bringing the mwiki to its knees. Once the copy is finalized
> the changes will be made to the actual template file and saved once. Though
> tj has told me there should be no major performance hit by doing this I
> will schedule it probably over a weekend when usage is lower to (hopefully)
> minimize the hurt when Murphy inevitably bites.
>
Awesome news, I will be having some spare time this month and the next. I
am still need to finalize the mediawiki theme, but I sure can help if you
need any.
>
> I came across the following page http://wiki.openoffice.org/**wiki/FAQ<http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/FAQ>that appears to be a sandbox that was started for developer FAQ's and then
> abandoned. There has been no development activity on it since 2009. Since
> many of the faq's on the web site are aimed towards developers, I would
> like to use this page as an index page for a number of different categories
> of developer faq's. I someone with a better knowledge and background in
> development could take a look at the page and if there is anything worth
> keeping let me know.
>
Like there was said before, a lot of dev-oriented projects were abandoned
when Sun/Oracle did. Many of these projects werent as widely known but is
good to have some kind of archieve of projects that people can take over.
One project that comes to mind is the www-at-odf, which started really
awesome but then the dev left. Any person with OOBasic, PHP and some apache
knowledge could takee it and port it, or improve it.
http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/ODF@WWW
>
> Regards
> Keith
>
>
--
Alexandro Colorado
Apache OpenOffice Contributor
http://es.openoffice.org
Re: Update to merge of FAQ's from web site to mwiki
Posted by janI <ja...@apache.org>.
On 23 December 2012 21:29, Keith N. McKenna <ke...@comcast.net>wrote:
> janI wrote:
>
>> On 23 December 2012 19:31, Keith N. McKenna <ke...@comcast.net>**
>> wrote:
>>
>> Keith N. McKenna wrote:
>>>
>>> Based on extended discussions on this list at:
>>>> http://markmail.org/search/+****list:org.apache.incubator.ooo-****<http://markmail.org/search/+**list:org.apache.incubator.ooo-**>
>>>> dev#query:%20list%3Aorg.****apache.incubator.ooo-dev+page:****
>>>> 1+mid:pkyogj4m45anxuxg+state:****results<http://markmail.org/**
>>>> search/+list:org.apache.**incubator.ooo-dev#query:%**
>>>> 20list%3Aorg.apache.incubator.**ooo-dev+page:1+mid:**
>>>> pkyogj4m45anxuxg+state:results<http://markmail.org/search/+list:org.apache.incubator.ooo-dev#query:%20list%3Aorg.apache.incubator.ooo-dev+page:1+mid:pkyogj4m45anxuxg+state:results>
>>>> **>
>>>>
>>>> .
>>>> I propose to start merging and updating the User FAQ's from the website
>>>> into the current structure on the mediawiki (mwiki) and updating the
>>>> FAQ's already there by eliminating outdated references to version 1 and
>>>> version 2 and any duplications.
>>>>
>>>> If there are no objections in 72 hours I will start merging the entries
>>>> from the website into the mwiki.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Keith N. Mckenna
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Good day all;
>>>>
>>>
>>> Just a quick update to where this mini-project is. I have jut about
>>> finished all the modifications to the faqtoc on the mwiki. This is being
>>> done through a copy of the template file so as to avoid multiple saves to
>>> the template bringing the mwiki to its knees. Once the copy is finalized
>>> the changes will be made to the actual template file and saved once.
>>> Though
>>> tj has told me there should be no major performance hit by doing this I
>>> will schedule it probably over a weekend when usage is lower to
>>> (hopefully)
>>> minimize the hurt when Murphy inevitably bites.
>>>
>>> I agree with tj, that is not a major burden for the mysql. Please be
>> aware
>> that I am looking at moving wikitest to production before end of the
>> year...so please send me an e-mail directly, when you want to start
>> working, then I keep my hands off.
>>
>> Jan I.
>>
>> Jan;
>
> In my earlier discussions with tj his feeling was that what I will be
> doing should not have any effect on the upgrade procedures. As long as the
> underlying data structure remains with all of it's associations and links
> to categories there should not be a problem. As I told tj previously, I am
> a process engineer and spent most of career in manufacturing. One tends to
> develop a cautious and conservative approach when knowing that it is you
> who has to explain to the operations manager and the plant manager why
> there production line is sitting idle. <lol> I have been bitten by Murphy
> in ways that I had never imagined and I am sure he has more waiting in the
> wings or me.
>
> It will not affect the upgrade, as long as you do it either before or
after I upgrade...if you it after I have made a backup of the db we might
have problems, so lets avoid that. When you want to do all your template
stuff, give me an advance notice, and I will not start the upgrade (or if I
am in the middle tell you).
> If it would be easier to do the rest of the development work on the test
> part I have no problem doing that. We need the software update and the
> clean-up work desperately and I do not want to interfere with that work in
> any way.
>
No, then I would have to merge the databases....but if there is something
you want to test before adding it to production, please feel free to do so
on the test system, that is the purpose of it !!! BUT all changes must be
done in the live wiki.
At the moment I wait for the deletion of at least half of the unused
images, so the backup becomes manageable :-)
>
>>> I came across the following page http://wiki.openoffice.org/****wiki/FAQ<http://wiki.openoffice.org/**wiki/FAQ>
>>> <http://wiki.**openoffice.org/wiki/FAQ<http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/FAQ>>that
>>> appears to be a sandbox that was started for developer FAQ's and then
>>>
>>> abandoned. There has been no development activity on it since 2009. Since
>>> many of the faq's on the web site are aimed towards developers, I would
>>> like to use this page as an index page for a number of different
>>> categories
>>> of developer faq's. I someone with a better knowledge and background in
>>> development could take a look at the page and if there is anything worth
>>> keeping let me know.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Keith
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
Re: Update to merge of FAQ's from web site to mwiki
Posted by "Keith N. McKenna" <ke...@comcast.net>.
janI wrote:
> On 23 December 2012 19:31, Keith N. McKenna <ke...@comcast.net>wrote:
>
>> Keith N. McKenna wrote:
>>
>>> Based on extended discussions on this list at:
>>> http://markmail.org/search/+**list:org.apache.incubator.ooo-**
>>> dev#query:%20list%3Aorg.**apache.incubator.ooo-dev+page:**
>>> 1+mid:pkyogj4m45anxuxg+state:**results<http://markmail.org/search/+list:org.apache.incubator.ooo-dev#query:%20list%3Aorg.apache.incubator.ooo-dev+page:1+mid:pkyogj4m45anxuxg+state:results>
>>> .
>>> I propose to start merging and updating the User FAQ's from the website
>>> into the current structure on the mediawiki (mwiki) and updating the
>>> FAQ's already there by eliminating outdated references to version 1 and
>>> version 2 and any duplications.
>>>
>>> If there are no objections in 72 hours I will start merging the entries
>>> from the website into the mwiki.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Keith N. Mckenna
>>>
>>>
>>> Good day all;
>>
>> Just a quick update to where this mini-project is. I have jut about
>> finished all the modifications to the faqtoc on the mwiki. This is being
>> done through a copy of the template file so as to avoid multiple saves to
>> the template bringing the mwiki to its knees. Once the copy is finalized
>> the changes will be made to the actual template file and saved once. Though
>> tj has told me there should be no major performance hit by doing this I
>> will schedule it probably over a weekend when usage is lower to (hopefully)
>> minimize the hurt when Murphy inevitably bites.
>>
> I agree with tj, that is not a major burden for the mysql. Please be aware
> that I am looking at moving wikitest to production before end of the
> year...so please send me an e-mail directly, when you want to start
> working, then I keep my hands off.
>
> Jan I.
>
Jan;
In my earlier discussions with tj his feeling was that what I will be
doing should not have any effect on the upgrade procedures. As long as
the underlying data structure remains with all of it's associations and
links to categories there should not be a problem. As I told tj
previously, I am a process engineer and spent most of career in
manufacturing. One tends to develop a cautious and conservative approach
when knowing that it is you who has to explain to the operations manager
and the plant manager why there production line is sitting idle. <lol> I
have been bitten by Murphy in ways that I had never imagined and I am
sure he has more waiting in the wings or me.
If it would be easier to do the rest of the development work on the test
part I have no problem doing that. We need the software update and the
clean-up work desperately and I do not want to interfere with that work
in any way.
>>
>> I came across the following page http://wiki.openoffice.org/**wiki/FAQ<http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/FAQ>that appears to be a sandbox that was started for developer FAQ's and then
>> abandoned. There has been no development activity on it since 2009. Since
>> many of the faq's on the web site are aimed towards developers, I would
>> like to use this page as an index page for a number of different categories
>> of developer faq's. I someone with a better knowledge and background in
>> development could take a look at the page and if there is anything worth
>> keeping let me know.
>>
>> Regards
>> Keith
>>
>>
>