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Subversion in Linux Magazine?
My name is Martin Streicher, and I am the Editor of Linux Magazine. Our
April 03 issue is focused on software development tools, and I would like to
know whether Subversion is far enough along to be the topic of a feature
article in that issue. I scanned some of the release notes for recent builds
and see that Subversion is now self-hosting, but I also see that there are
many features to be implemented.
To be clear, I am not concerned about the state of the code. If we ran an
article on Subversion, I would want readers to understand how it differs
from CVS, what it¹s unique features are, and how it compared to other source
control tools, both commercial and open source. If Subversion is a
next-generation management tool, and that design could be shown and
explained, that might be enough.
Please drop me a line and let me know your thoughts. I know I am sending to
a mailing list, so perhaps it is best to discuss the pros and cons and send
a single response. Also, it would be ideal if the author of the story came
from the development team and is capable of producing a compelling magazine
article. I¹d like the story to be authoritative. I can assist in story
development, but would expect good writing skills.
I look forward to your response. And, I am happy to answer questions.
Martin Streicher, Editor
Linux Magazine
mstreicher@linux-mag.com
Re: Subversion in Linux Magazine?
Posted by Oden Eriksson <od...@kvikkjokk.net>.
torsdagen den 7 november 2002 18.59 skrev Martin Streicher, Editor:
> Ben, et al.
[snip]
> If there are no takers, I will suggest the topic to our Compile Time
> columnist. Compile Time is all about developing code on Linux, and a
> hands-on tutorial is very appropriate for that column. A hands-on guide
> would also differentiate our piece from the LJ piece.
Please mention that Mandrake Linux Cooker, the development version of mandrake
now can run subversion. None of the stuff in the contribs branch are
supported by mandrakeSoft though (silly). This doesn't mean that that branch
is useless, in fact many of my "contribs" has made it into the "core" such as
for example "rdesktop", many php extensions, etc.
Chears.
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Check the "Modules For Apache2" status page at:
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Re: Subversion in Linux Magazine?
Posted by "Martin Streicher, Editor" <ms...@linux-mag.com>.
Content that appears in the printed magazine is posted on the
www.linuxmagazine.com site three months after issue hits the newsstand.
However, I am happy to let Tigris and the SVN team re-use the content after
a 30-day delay.
Martin Streicher, Editor
Linux Magazine
mstreicher@linux-mag.com
>
> From: Karl Fogel <kf...@newton.ch.collab.net>
> Reply-To: kfogel@collab.net
> Date: 07 Nov 2002 12:44:49 -0600
> To: "Martin Streicher, Editor" <ms...@linux-mag.com>
> Cc: Ben Collins-Sussman <su...@collab.net>, SVN Dev List
> <de...@subversion.tigris.org>
> Subject: Re: Subversion in Linux Magazine?
>
> (And if Martin Streicher agrees to some sort of "free copyright
> license after a timeout" arrangement, then we can post the article on
> the svn website after it's published.)
RE: Subversion in Linux Magazine?
Posted by Sander Striker <st...@apache.org>.
> From: Martin Streicher, Editor [mailto:mstreicher@linux-mag.com]
> Sent: 07 November 2002 23:52
>
> Deadline would be 15 Jan.
That would work fine ;).
> Your article would run in the April issue,
> which is nice because the feature stories in that issue focuses on SW
> development tools. Word count would be 2000-2500 words or so. Let me
> know if you can meet that deadline, and if so, send me Justins email
> address so I can send both of you a writers kit.
He's on the Cc: line.
Thanks,
Sander
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Re: Subversion in Linux Magazine?
Posted by "Martin Streicher, Editor" <ms...@linux-mag.com>.
Deadline would be 15 Jan. Your article would run in the April issue, which
is nice because the feature stories in that issue focuses on SW development
tools. Word count would be 2000-2500 words or so. Let me know if you can
meet that deadline, and if so, send me Justin¹s email address so I can send
both of you a writer¹s kit.
Martin Streicher, Editor
Linux Magazine
mstreicher@linux-mag.com
>
> From: "Sander Striker" <st...@apache.org>
> Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 20:51:05 +0100
> To: "Martin Streicher, Editor" <ms...@linux-mag.com>
> Cc: "SVN Dev List" <de...@subversion.tigris.org>
> Subject: RE: Subversion in Linux Magazine?
>
> Justin and I would like to take it on as a duo, under the pretext that
> the deadline isn't before half of december.
>
RE: Subversion in Linux Magazine?
Posted by Sander Striker <st...@apache.org>.
> From: Karl Fogel [mailto:kfogel@newton.ch.collab.net]
> Sent: 07 November 2002 19:45
> "Martin Streicher, Editor" <ms...@linux-mag.com> writes:
>> What I would like to see in Linux Magazine is a hands-on tutorial on how to
>> deploy and use Subversion.
>>
>> If there are no takers, I will suggest the topic to our Compile Time
>> columnist. Compile Time is all about developing code on Linux, and a
>> hands-on tutorial is very appropriate for that column. A hands-on guide
>> would also differentiate our piece from the LJ piece.
>
> I'll bet there's someone -- or more than one -- on this list who would
> be interested in writing this. Maybe people were waiting to see if
> Ben wanted to do it? But he can't, unfortunately.
>
> So folks: if you were being polite and waiting to see if someone else
> wanted this, stop waiting :-). Now is your chance to join the Great
> Unofficial Subversion Propaganda Campaign, in collusion with the mass
> media and major multinationals, by writing an article for Linux
> Magazine.
heh heh, I don't think we need that much encouragment ;)
Justin and I would like to take it on as a duo, under the pretext that
the deadline isn't before half of december.
> (And if Martin Streicher agrees to some sort of "free copyright
> license after a timeout" arrangement, then we can post the article on
> the svn website after it's published.)
That would be very nice. Martin?
Sander
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Re: Subversion in Linux Magazine?
Posted by Karl Fogel <kf...@newton.ch.collab.net>.
"Martin Streicher, Editor" <ms...@linux-mag.com> writes:
> What I would like to see in Linux Magazine is a hands-on tutorial on how to
> deploy and use Subversion.
>
> If there are no takers, I will suggest the topic to our Compile Time
> columnist. Compile Time is all about developing code on Linux, and a
> hands-on tutorial is very appropriate for that column. A hands-on guide
> would also differentiate our piece from the LJ piece.
I'll bet there's someone -- or more than one -- on this list who would
be interested in writing this. Maybe people were waiting to see if
Ben wanted to do it? But he can't, unfortunately.
So folks: if you were being polite and waiting to see if someone else
wanted this, stop waiting :-). Now is your chance to join the Great
Unofficial Subversion Propaganda Campaign, in collusion with the mass
media and major multinationals, by writing an article for Linux
Magazine.
(And if Martin Streicher agrees to some sort of "free copyright
license after a timeout" arrangement, then we can post the article on
the svn website after it's published.)
Hoping,
-Karl
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Re: Subversion in Linux Magazine?
Posted by "Martin Streicher, Editor" <ms...@linux-mag.com>.
Ben -
Just following up that James will write a hands-on, how-to feature on
Subversion and PHP for PHP Journal #2, scheduled for April 2003.
A separate hands-on, how-to Subversion article is being written for Linux
Magazine, also (coincidentally) for April 03.
Martin Streicher, Editor
Linux Magazine
mstreicher@linux-mag.com
>
> From: "James Cox" <ja...@imajes.info>
> Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 20:58:57 -0000
> To: "Martin Streicher, Editor"<ms...@linux-mag.com>, "Ben
> Collins-Sussman"<su...@collab.net>, "SVN Dev
> List"<de...@subversion.tigris.org>
> Subject: RE: Subversion in Linux Magazine?
>
> Martin, Ben,
>
> if it works for you then i would really like to do this. I am going through
> the process of installing svn as my repository control, and also as a
> read-only repository for a major open source venture (will let everyone know
> when it's done!)
>
> I have already written CNET articles, and I am working on a book, so i do have
> writing experience.
>
> With that said, and no objections, martin, feel free to hit me up with the
> details!
>
> -- james
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Martin Streicher, Editor [mailto:mstreicher@linux-mag.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 5:59 PM
>> To: Ben Collins-Sussman; SVN Dev List
>> Subject: Re: Subversion in Linux Magazine?
>>
>>
>> Ben, et al.
>>
>> I read the Linux Journal article and thought that piece presented a good
>> rationale and roadmap of Subversion.
>>
>> What I would like to see in Linux Magazine is a hands-on tutorial on how to
>> deploy and use Subversion.
>>
>> If there are no takers, I will suggest the topic to our Compile Time
>> columnist. Compile Time is all about developing code on Linux, and a
>> hands-on tutorial is very appropriate for that column. A hands-on guide would
>> also differentiate our piece from the LJ piece.
>>
>> Martin
>>
>>
>>
>> Martin Streicher, Editor
>> Linux Magazine
>> mstreicher@linux-mag.com
>>>
>>> From: Ben Collins-Sussman <su...@collab.net>
>>> Date: 05 Nov 2002 19:38:15 -0600
>>> To: "Martin Streicher, Editor"<ms...@linux-mag.com>, SVN Dev List
>>> <de...@subversion.tigris.org>
>>> Subject: Re: Subversion in Linux Magazine?
>>>
>>
>>> "Martin Streicher, Editor" <ms...@linux-mag.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> > My name is Martin Streicher, and I am the Editor of Linux Magazine. Our
>>>> > April 03 issue is focused on software development tools, and I would like
>>>> to
>>>> > know whether Subversion is far enough along to be the topic of a feature
>>>> > article in that issue. I scanned some of the release notes for recent
>>>> builds
>>>> > and see that Subversion is now self-hosting, but I also see that there
>>>> are
>>>> > many features to be implemented.
>>>
>>> Subversion has been self-hosting for over a year, and many people are
>>> using it. It's in the middle of a long march to Beta and 1.0, mostly
>>> bug fixing for the next few months. A number of folks have started using
>>> it.
>>>
>>> I wrote an article about Subversion for Linux Journal last year
>>> (should I mention the competition?!), which is here:
>>>
>>> http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=4768
>>>
>>> That said, I'm also busy collaborating on an O'Reilly book about
>>> Subversion. This pretty much marks me as "too busy to write any more
>>> articles."
>>>
>>> I think is this a *great* opportunity for someone else in our community
>>> to do some writing (and project promotion).
>>>
>>> Who's gonna do it? Step forward!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
RE: Subversion in Linux Magazine?
Posted by James Cox <ja...@imajes.info>.
Re: Subversion in Linux Magazine?that's wierd, i just got it....
but imajes@php.net should work too..
-- james
-----Original Message-----
From: Martin Streicher, Editor [mailto:mstreicher@linux-mag.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 10:13 PM
To: James Cox; Ben Collins-Sussman; SVN Dev List
Subject: Re: Subversion in Linux Magazine?
James My email to you (individually) keeps bouncing. Do you have another
email address? The .info one is not working for me.
Martin Streicher, Editor
Linux Magazine
mstreicher@linux-mag.com
From: "James Cox" <ja...@imajes.info>
Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 20:58:57 -0000
To: "Martin Streicher, Editor"<ms...@linux-mag.com>, "Ben
Collins-Sussman"<su...@collab.net>, "SVN Dev
List"<de...@subversion.tigris.org>
Subject: RE: Subversion in Linux Magazine?
Martin, Ben,
if it works for you then i would really like to do this. I am going
through the process of installing svn as my repository control, and also as
a read-only repository for a major open source venture (will let everyone
know when it's done!)
I have already written CNET articles, and I am working on a book, so i
do have writing experience.
With that said, and no objections, martin, feel free to hit me up with
the details!
-- james
-----Original Message-----
From: Martin Streicher, Editor [mailto:mstreicher@linux-mag.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 5:59 PM
To: Ben Collins-Sussman; SVN Dev List
Subject: Re: Subversion in Linux Magazine?
Ben, et al.
I read the Linux Journal article and thought that piece presented a
good rationale and roadmap of Subversion.
What I would like to see in Linux Magazine is a hands-on tutorial on
how to deploy and use Subversion.
If there are no takers, I will suggest the topic to our Compile Time
columnist. Compile Time is all about developing code on Linux, and a
hands-on tutorial is very appropriate for that column. A hands-on guide
would also differentiate our piece from the LJ piece.
Martin
Martin Streicher, Editor
Linux Magazine
mstreicher@linux-mag.com
From: Ben Collins-Sussman <su...@collab.net>
Date: 05 Nov 2002 19:38:15 -0600
To: "Martin Streicher, Editor"<ms...@linux-mag.com>, SVN Dev
List <de...@subversion.tigris.org>
Subject: Re: Subversion in Linux Magazine?
"Martin Streicher, Editor" <ms...@linux-mag.com> writes:
> My name is Martin Streicher, and I am the Editor of Linux
Magazine. Our
> April 03 issue is focused on software development tools, and I
would like to
> know whether Subversion is far enough along to be the topic of a
feature
> article in that issue. I scanned some of the release notes for
recent builds
> and see that Subversion is now self-hosting, but I also see that
there are
> many features to be implemented.
Subversion has been self-hosting for over a year, and many people
are
using it. It's in the middle of a long march to Beta and 1.0,
mostly
bug fixing for the next few months. A number of folks have started
using it.
I wrote an article about Subversion for Linux Journal last year
(should I mention the competition?!), which is here:
http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=4768
That said, I'm also busy collaborating on an O'Reilly book about
Subversion. This pretty much marks me as "too busy to write any
more
articles."
I think is this a *great* opportunity for someone else in our
community
to do some writing (and project promotion).
Who's gonna do it? Step forward!
Re: Subversion in Linux Magazine?
Posted by "Martin Streicher, Editor" <ms...@linux-mag.com>.
James My email to you (individually) keeps bouncing. Do you have another
email address? The .info one is not working for me.
Martin Streicher, Editor
Linux Magazine
mstreicher@linux-mag.com
>
> From: "James Cox" <ja...@imajes.info>
> Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 20:58:57 -0000
> To: "Martin Streicher, Editor"<ms...@linux-mag.com>, "Ben
> Collins-Sussman"<su...@collab.net>, "SVN Dev
> List"<de...@subversion.tigris.org>
> Subject: RE: Subversion in Linux Magazine?
>
> Martin, Ben,
>
> if it works for you then i would really like to do this. I am going through
> the process of installing svn as my repository control, and also as a
> read-only repository for a major open source venture (will let everyone know
> when it's done!)
>
> I have already written CNET articles, and I am working on a book, so i do have
> writing experience.
>
> With that said, and no objections, martin, feel free to hit me up with the
> details!
>
> -- james
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Martin Streicher, Editor [mailto:mstreicher@linux-mag.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 5:59 PM
>> To: Ben Collins-Sussman; SVN Dev List
>> Subject: Re: Subversion in Linux Magazine?
>>
>>
>> Ben, et al.
>>
>> I read the Linux Journal article and thought that piece presented a good
>> rationale and roadmap of Subversion.
>>
>> What I would like to see in Linux Magazine is a hands-on tutorial on how to
>> deploy and use Subversion.
>>
>> If there are no takers, I will suggest the topic to our Compile Time
>> columnist. Compile Time is all about developing code on Linux, and a
>> hands-on tutorial is very appropriate for that column. A hands-on guide would
>> also differentiate our piece from the LJ piece.
>>
>> Martin
>>
>>
>>
>> Martin Streicher, Editor
>> Linux Magazine
>> mstreicher@linux-mag.com
>>>
>>> From: Ben Collins-Sussman <su...@collab.net>
>>> Date: 05 Nov 2002 19:38:15 -0600
>>> To: "Martin Streicher, Editor"<ms...@linux-mag.com>, SVN Dev List
>>> <de...@subversion.tigris.org>
>>> Subject: Re: Subversion in Linux Magazine?
>>>
>>
>>> "Martin Streicher, Editor" <ms...@linux-mag.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> > My name is Martin Streicher, and I am the Editor of Linux Magazine. Our
>>>> > April 03 issue is focused on software development tools, and I would like
>>>> to
>>>> > know whether Subversion is far enough along to be the topic of a feature
>>>> > article in that issue. I scanned some of the release notes for recent
>>>> builds
>>>> > and see that Subversion is now self-hosting, but I also see that there
>>>> are
>>>> > many features to be implemented.
>>>
>>> Subversion has been self-hosting for over a year, and many people are
>>> using it. It's in the middle of a long march to Beta and 1.0, mostly
>>> bug fixing for the next few months. A number of folks have started using
>>> it.
>>>
>>> I wrote an article about Subversion for Linux Journal last year
>>> (should I mention the competition?!), which is here:
>>>
>>> http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=4768
>>>
>>> That said, I'm also busy collaborating on an O'Reilly book about
>>> Subversion. This pretty much marks me as "too busy to write any more
>>> articles."
>>>
>>> I think is this a *great* opportunity for someone else in our community
>>> to do some writing (and project promotion).
>>>
>>> Who's gonna do it? Step forward!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
RE: Subversion in Linux Magazine?
Posted by James Cox <ja...@imajes.info>.
Re: Subversion in Linux Magazine?Martin, Ben,
if it works for you then i would really like to do this. I am going through
the process of installing svn as my repository control, and also as a
read-only repository for a major open source venture (will let everyone know
when it's done!)
I have already written CNET articles, and I am working on a book, so i do
have writing experience.
With that said, and no objections, martin, feel free to hit me up with the
details!
-- james
-----Original Message-----
From: Martin Streicher, Editor [mailto:mstreicher@linux-mag.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 5:59 PM
To: Ben Collins-Sussman; SVN Dev List
Subject: Re: Subversion in Linux Magazine?
Ben, et al.
I read the Linux Journal article and thought that piece presented a good
rationale and roadmap of Subversion.
What I would like to see in Linux Magazine is a hands-on tutorial on how
to deploy and use Subversion.
If there are no takers, I will suggest the topic to our Compile Time
columnist. Compile Time is all about developing code on Linux, and a
hands-on tutorial is very appropriate for that column. A hands-on guide
would also differentiate our piece from the LJ piece.
Martin
Martin Streicher, Editor
Linux Magazine
mstreicher@linux-mag.com
From: Ben Collins-Sussman <su...@collab.net>
Date: 05 Nov 2002 19:38:15 -0600
To: "Martin Streicher, Editor"<ms...@linux-mag.com>, SVN Dev List
<de...@subversion.tigris.org>
Subject: Re: Subversion in Linux Magazine?
"Martin Streicher, Editor" <ms...@linux-mag.com> writes:
> My name is Martin Streicher, and I am the Editor of Linux Magazine.
Our
> April 03 issue is focused on software development tools, and I would
like to
> know whether Subversion is far enough along to be the topic of a
feature
> article in that issue. I scanned some of the release notes for recent
builds
> and see that Subversion is now self-hosting, but I also see that there
are
> many features to be implemented.
Subversion has been self-hosting for over a year, and many people are
using it. It's in the middle of a long march to Beta and 1.0, mostly
bug fixing for the next few months. A number of folks have started
using it.
I wrote an article about Subversion for Linux Journal last year
(should I mention the competition?!), which is here:
http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=4768
That said, I'm also busy collaborating on an O'Reilly book about
Subversion. This pretty much marks me as "too busy to write any more
articles."
I think is this a *great* opportunity for someone else in our community
to do some writing (and project promotion).
Who's gonna do it? Step forward!
Re: Subversion in Linux Magazine?
Posted by "Martin Streicher, Editor" <ms...@linux-mag.com>.
Ben, et al.
I read the Linux Journal article and thought that piece presented a good
rationale and roadmap of Subversion.
What I would like to see in Linux Magazine is a hands-on tutorial on how to
deploy and use Subversion.
If there are no takers, I will suggest the topic to our Compile Time
columnist. Compile Time is all about developing code on Linux, and a
hands-on tutorial is very appropriate for that column. A hands-on guide
would also differentiate our piece from the LJ piece.
Martin
Martin Streicher, Editor
Linux Magazine
mstreicher@linux-mag.com
>
> From: Ben Collins-Sussman <su...@collab.net>
> Date: 05 Nov 2002 19:38:15 -0600
> To: "Martin Streicher, Editor"<ms...@linux-mag.com>, SVN Dev List
> <de...@subversion.tigris.org>
> Subject: Re: Subversion in Linux Magazine?
>
> "Martin Streicher, Editor" <ms...@linux-mag.com> writes:
>
>> > My name is Martin Streicher, and I am the Editor of Linux Magazine. Our
>> > April 03 issue is focused on software development tools, and I would like
>> to
>> > know whether Subversion is far enough along to be the topic of a feature
>> > article in that issue. I scanned some of the release notes for recent
>> builds
>> > and see that Subversion is now self-hosting, but I also see that there are
>> > many features to be implemented.
>
> Subversion has been self-hosting for over a year, and many people are
> using it. It's in the middle of a long march to Beta and 1.0, mostly
> bug fixing for the next few months. A number of folks have started using it.
>
> I wrote an article about Subversion for Linux Journal last year
> (should I mention the competition?!), which is here:
>
> http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=4768
>
> That said, I'm also busy collaborating on an O'Reilly book about
> Subversion. This pretty much marks me as "too busy to write any more
> articles."
>
> I think is this a *great* opportunity for someone else in our community
> to do some writing (and project promotion).
>
> Who's gonna do it? Step forward!
>
>
>
>
>
Re: Subversion in Linux Magazine?
Posted by Ben Collins-Sussman <su...@collab.net>.
"Martin Streicher, Editor" <ms...@linux-mag.com> writes:
> My name is Martin Streicher, and I am the Editor of Linux Magazine. Our
> April 03 issue is focused on software development tools, and I would like to
> know whether Subversion is far enough along to be the topic of a feature
> article in that issue. I scanned some of the release notes for recent builds
> and see that Subversion is now self-hosting, but I also see that there are
> many features to be implemented.
Subversion has been self-hosting for over a year, and many people are
using it. It's in the middle of a long march to Beta and 1.0, mostly
bug fixing for the next few months. A number of folks have started using it.
I wrote an article about Subversion for Linux Journal last year
(should I mention the competition?!), which is here:
http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=4768
That said, I'm also busy collaborating on an O'Reilly book about
Subversion. This pretty much marks me as "too busy to write any more
articles."
I think is this a *great* opportunity for someone else in our community
to do some writing (and project promotion).
Who's gonna do it? Step forward!
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