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Posted to dev@sling.apache.org by Paul Walker <wa...@gmail.com> on 2008/01/14 07:33:40 UTC
GHOP issue 2: Design two related logos for the sling project
http://code.google.com/p/google-highly-open-participation-asf/issues/detail?id=2&colspec=ID%20Status%20Owner%20ClaimedBy%20Summary
> The Sling project (http://incubator.apache.org/sling) needs two
> related logos, one for Sling itself and one for microsling, which is
> a simplified version of the same software.
The following are my first proposals for a new logo for the project.
These are just drafts, and any comments & suggestions are welcome. http://bitliquid.com/private/sling.jpg
(my personal favourite is the bottom set)
One specific question I'd like to know about is your thoughts on using
a stylised Apache feather, as i have on the top & bottom logos.
They're used on a couple of other Project logos but I've heard that
there was an issue with it for the jackrabbit project. the bottom logo
can easily use the normal feather (http://bitliquid.com/private/normal_feather.jpg
) but it's not quite so clean - the top logo kind of relies upon the
stylised feather (the third logo doesn't have a feather at all ATM -
if it is preferred, I'll work one into it)
Re: GHOP issue 2: Design two related logos for the sling project
Posted by Felix Meschberger <fm...@gmail.com>.
Hi Paul,
As Bertrand, I like the enhanced original logo (the second) the best.
Also the integration of the µ looks good to me (though I would rotate
counter-clockwise instead of clockwise, probably). In addition, I think
we should go with a single color, either the left one (my favorite) or
the right one. The differentiator between Sling and µsling is just the
µ.
>>From your original proposal I also liked the third one with
"backslashed-zero" left of the name. Refining this one by making it seem
less "bulky" - maybe with a contrasting border, see the Apache Felix
Logo [1] - and "underlyning" the whole thing with the Apache feather
would be interesting.
Regards
Felix
[1] http://felix.apache.org/site/media.data/logo.png
Am Montag, den 14.01.2008, 23:54 +1100 schrieb Paul Walker:
> OK - the issue said to use the term microsling. I've updated the logos
> to use µsling in the logos, and to use the official feather in all
> logos. Proposal 1-1 (original proposal also available here)
>
> On 14/01/2008, at 6:54 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
>
> > Hi Paul,
> >
> > Thanks very much for your proposals!
> >
> > Notes on http://bitliquid.com/private/sling.jpg (please use a
> > different filename if you create new variants, so that we know which
> > is which):
> >
> > On the first variant, the stylized feathers looks a bit like bananas
> > to me ;-)
> > And anyway, to answer your question, I think we have to use the
> > "official" feather in the design.
> >
> > My favorite variant is the second one, where you improve on the
> > existing logo. I like the left one with the turquoise color, although
> > it needs "something" to separate the S from the top line better, IMHO.
> > It has kind of a vintage look that I like very much.
> >
> >> ...(my personal favourite is the bottom set...
> >
> > The green translucent shape is very nice, but IMHO this logo has much
> > less "unity" that the second variant - it looks to me as an assembly
> > of things instead of one thing.
> >
> > Note that we now write microsling as "µsling" with a greek mu letter.
> >
> > Let's hear what others think (and let's hope we don't get 6 different
> > opinions from 5 people ;-)
> >
> > -Bertrand
>
Re: GHOP issue 2: Design two related logos for the sling project
Posted by Felix Meschberger <fm...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
Am Freitag, den 18.01.2008, 09:41 +0100 schrieb Bertrand Delacretaz:
> On Jan 18, 2008 9:15 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > ...Please upload them to https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SLING-174...
>
> The logos have been uploaded, thanks!
>
> I'll wait 24 hours before marking the GHOP issue as completed, in case
> other Sling community members want to comment on Paul's final logos.
Great. I like those logos.
>
> Paul's been moving fast
That is very true and good !
> and we have not really taken into account
> Paddy's comment saying "I like the third treatment with the sling pill
> thingy next to it".
I also kind of like the "sling pill thingy" for two reasons: I may
easily be used as a favicon and it may be used "inline" with text
(probably). But then, I am perfectly ok with what exists now and agree
to on deciding whether we take it or not.
Thanks also to Betrand to providing guidance for this.
Regards
Felix
Re: GHOP issue 2: Design two related logos for the sling project
Posted by Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>.
On Jan 18, 2008 9:15 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org> wrote:
> ...Please upload them to https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SLING-174...
The logos have been uploaded, thanks!
I'll wait 24 hours before marking the GHOP issue as completed, in case
other Sling community members want to comment on Paul's final logos.
Paul's been moving fast and we have not really taken into account
Paddy's comment saying "I like the third treatment with the sling pill
thingy next to it". Note that we could create another GHOP issue (if
we act quickly: students can only start working on GHOP issues until
the 22nd) if we want to have another finished logo to have more
choice. Me, I'm perfectly happy with the
http://bitliquid.com/private/sling/Final/ logos.
-Bertrand
Re: GHOP issue 2: Design two related logos for the sling project
Posted by Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>.
Hi Paul,
On Jan 18, 2008 2:56 AM, Paul Walker <wa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> ...Here's what I think are the final logos. http://bitliquid.com/private/sling/final/...
Thanks - it's http://bitliquid.com/private/sling/Final/ with a capital F.
> ...where should I upload these?...
Please upload them to https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SLING-174,
see my comments there.
Many thanks for your work!
-Bertrand
Re: GHOP issue 2: Design two related logos for the sling project
Posted by Paul Walker <wa...@gmail.com>.
Here's what I think are the final logos. http://bitliquid.com/private/sling/final/
(It's pretty much the same as the previous proposal, but with some
additional variations, for B&W and for a favicon) - Are there any
remaining issues? Otherwise,where should I upload these?
On 17/01/2008, at 7:27 PM, Felix Meschberger wrote:
> Hi Paul,
>
> Am Donnerstag, den 17.01.2008, 09:11 +0100 schrieb Bertrand
> Delacretaz:
>> Hi Paul,
>>
>> On Jan 17, 2008 6:59 AM, Paul Walker <wa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> http://bitliquid.com/private/sling/Proposal-2-1.jpg
>>> http://bitliquid.com/private/sling/Proposal-2-1.svg...
>>
>> Great work! I like it.
>
> ++1. Thanks.
>
>>
>>> ...The variant on the bottom was made to address Bertrand
>>> Delacretaz's
>>> concern about the S blending into the top Border. I prefer the other
>>> version, but it's not all up to me…
>>
>> I do prefer this bottom variant, though it might need another
>> interruption in the line that goes from the S to the G, somewhere
>> close to the G.
>>
>> But if people prefer the top logos, no big deal - let's hear what
>> others think.
>
> I only just now realized why there are actually two µ logos.
>
> Probably having the line uninterrupted is slightly better ? Because it
> mimicks the word "Sling" a bit by creating the illusion of a sling. If
> we would interrupt at the g, the µ might seem to hang out in the air ?
>
> BTW: The logo also looks good when printed B&W.
>
> Regards
> Felix
>
>>
>> -Bertrand
>
Re: GHOP issue 2: Design two related logos for the sling project
Posted by Felix Meschberger <fm...@gmail.com>.
Hi Paul,
Am Donnerstag, den 17.01.2008, 09:11 +0100 schrieb Bertrand Delacretaz:
> Hi Paul,
>
> On Jan 17, 2008 6:59 AM, Paul Walker <wa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > http://bitliquid.com/private/sling/Proposal-2-1.jpg
> > http://bitliquid.com/private/sling/Proposal-2-1.svg...
>
> Great work! I like it.
++1. Thanks.
>
> > ...The variant on the bottom was made to address Bertrand Delacretaz's
> > concern about the S blending into the top Border. I prefer the other
> > version, but it's not all up to me…
>
> I do prefer this bottom variant, though it might need another
> interruption in the line that goes from the S to the G, somewhere
> close to the G.
>
> But if people prefer the top logos, no big deal - let's hear what others think.
I only just now realized why there are actually two µ logos.
Probably having the line uninterrupted is slightly better ? Because it
mimicks the word "Sling" a bit by creating the illusion of a sling. If
we would interrupt at the g, the µ might seem to hang out in the air ?
BTW: The logo also looks good when printed B&W.
Regards
Felix
>
> -Bertrand
Re: GHOP issue 2: Design two related logos for the sling project
Posted by Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>.
Hi Paul,
On Jan 17, 2008 6:59 AM, Paul Walker <wa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> http://bitliquid.com/private/sling/Proposal-2-1.jpg
> http://bitliquid.com/private/sling/Proposal-2-1.svg...
Great work! I like it.
> ...The variant on the bottom was made to address Bertrand Delacretaz's
> concern about the S blending into the top Border. I prefer the other
> version, but it's not all up to me…
I do prefer this bottom variant, though it might need another
interruption in the line that goes from the S to the G, somewhere
close to the G.
But if people prefer the top logos, no big deal - let's hear what others think.
-Bertrand
Re: GHOP issue 2: Design two related logos for the sling project
Posted by Paul Walker <wa...@gmail.com>.
http://bitliquid.com/private/sling/Proposal-2-1.jpg
http://bitliquid.com/private/sling/Proposal-2-1.svg
Since, as of now, it seems that the preferred logo is the one based
upon the current one, so I worked on vectorising & improving it. As
suggested, I've switched both of the logos to the blue colour, & have
subsequently switched the colour of the µ to a red colour matching the
Apache feather. I also un-rounded the two corners, I think it gives
the logo a little more personality, and makes it a little less
'generic web 2.0'.
The variant on the bottom was made to address Bertrand Delacretaz's
concern about the S blending into the top Border. I prefer the other
version, but it's not all up to me… what does everyone else think
about this pair of logos?
On 15/01/2008, at 12:26 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
> On Jan 14, 2008 1:54 PM, Paul Walker <wa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> ...OK - the issue said to use the term microsling....
>
> You're right - things are still very much in flux in a young project
> like Sling, sorry about that.
>
>> ... I've updated the logos
>> to use µsling in the logos, and to use the official feather in all
>> logos. Proposal 1-1 (original proposal also available here)..
>
> Thanks (the URL is http://bitliquid.com/private/sling/proposal1-1.jpg)
>
> I like the way you used the mu letter, apart from that my favorite
> hasn't changed - see my previous mail in this thread. And, like Felix,
> I think the Sling and µsling logos should be the same color.
>
> -Bertrand
Re: GHOP issue 2: Design two related logos for the sling project
Posted by Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>.
On Jan 14, 2008 1:54 PM, Paul Walker <wa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> ...OK - the issue said to use the term microsling....
You're right - things are still very much in flux in a young project
like Sling, sorry about that.
> ... I've updated the logos
> to use µsling in the logos, and to use the official feather in all
> logos. Proposal 1-1 (original proposal also available here)..
Thanks (the URL is http://bitliquid.com/private/sling/proposal1-1.jpg)
I like the way you used the mu letter, apart from that my favorite
hasn't changed - see my previous mail in this thread. And, like Felix,
I think the Sling and µsling logos should be the same color.
-Bertrand
Re: GHOP issue 2: Design two related logos for the sling project
Posted by Paul Walker <wa...@gmail.com>.
OK - the issue said to use the term microsling. I've updated the logos
to use µsling in the logos, and to use the official feather in all
logos. Proposal 1-1 (original proposal also available here)
On 14/01/2008, at 6:54 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
> Hi Paul,
>
> Thanks very much for your proposals!
>
> Notes on http://bitliquid.com/private/sling.jpg (please use a
> different filename if you create new variants, so that we know which
> is which):
>
> On the first variant, the stylized feathers looks a bit like bananas
> to me ;-)
> And anyway, to answer your question, I think we have to use the
> "official" feather in the design.
>
> My favorite variant is the second one, where you improve on the
> existing logo. I like the left one with the turquoise color, although
> it needs "something" to separate the S from the top line better, IMHO.
> It has kind of a vintage look that I like very much.
>
>> ...(my personal favourite is the bottom set...
>
> The green translucent shape is very nice, but IMHO this logo has much
> less "unity" that the second variant - it looks to me as an assembly
> of things instead of one thing.
>
> Note that we now write microsling as "µsling" with a greek mu letter.
>
> Let's hear what others think (and let's hope we don't get 6 different
> opinions from 5 people ;-)
>
> -Bertrand
Re: GHOP issue 2: Design two related logos for the sling project
Posted by Padraic Hannon <pi...@wasabicowboy.com>.
I don't feel I have the graphics expertise to comment, although, I
cannot help myself from doing so ;-). For reasons that I cannot
rightly explain, except to say simplicity perhaps, I like the third
treatment with the sling pill thingy next to it. The Green box ones
are cool, sort of like one of those long skinny rubicks things that
where popular in the 80s.
-paddy
On Jan 13, 2008, at 11:54 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
> Hi Paul,
>
> Thanks very much for your proposals!
>
> Notes on http://bitliquid.com/private/sling.jpg (please use a
> different filename if you create new variants, so that we know which
> is which):
>
> On the first variant, the stylized feathers looks a bit like bananas
> to me ;-)
> And anyway, to answer your question, I think we have to use the
> "official" feather in the design.
>
> My favorite variant is the second one, where you improve on the
> existing logo. I like the left one with the turquoise color, although
> it needs "something" to separate the S from the top line better, IMHO.
> It has kind of a vintage look that I like very much.
>
>> ...(my personal favourite is the bottom set...
>
> The green translucent shape is very nice, but IMHO this logo has much
> less "unity" that the second variant - it looks to me as an assembly
> of things instead of one thing.
>
> Note that we now write microsling as "µsling" with a greek mu letter.
>
> Let's hear what others think (and let's hope we don't get 6 different
> opinions from 5 people ;-)
>
> -Bertrand
Re: GHOP issue 2: Design two related logos for the sling project
Posted by Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>.
Hi Paul,
Thanks very much for your proposals!
Notes on http://bitliquid.com/private/sling.jpg (please use a
different filename if you create new variants, so that we know which
is which):
On the first variant, the stylized feathers looks a bit like bananas to me ;-)
And anyway, to answer your question, I think we have to use the
"official" feather in the design.
My favorite variant is the second one, where you improve on the
existing logo. I like the left one with the turquoise color, although
it needs "something" to separate the S from the top line better, IMHO.
It has kind of a vintage look that I like very much.
> ...(my personal favourite is the bottom set...
The green translucent shape is very nice, but IMHO this logo has much
less "unity" that the second variant - it looks to me as an assembly
of things instead of one thing.
Note that we now write microsling as "µsling" with a greek mu letter.
Let's hear what others think (and let's hope we don't get 6 different
opinions from 5 people ;-)
-Bertrand