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Posted to dev@clerezza.apache.org by Tommaso Teofili <to...@gmail.com> on 2010/06/25 07:55:51 UTC
Push for a release
Hi all,
I would like to push for the first incubating release of Clerezza; talking
these days at IKS Workshop with some people made me realize that this is
going to be one of the first steps to enhance our community.
This is going to be a challenging process but hopefully will lead us to have
a cleaner project too.
What do you think?
Tommaso
RE: Push for a release
Posted by Marco Zaugg <ma...@trialox.org>.
+1
I'm also pointing at the fact that we need a proper project website
including updated tutorials. I'll going to work on the Clerezza logo
and screendesign of the website in July, so we should be up and running
in August/September.
Re. logo: Just checked the infos on
http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs.html
Does one of the PMCs know where I do get the proper Apache feather in EPS
format
from? In chapter 'Logos and Graphics' it's said there will be much simpler
version
of the feather. Does anyone know when this is available?
-----Original Message-----
From: Tommaso Teofili [mailto:tommaso.teofili@gmail.com]
Sent: Freitag, 25. Juni 2010 07:56
To: clerezza-dev
Subject: Push for a release
Hi all,
I would like to push for the first incubating release of Clerezza; talking
these days at IKS Workshop with some people made me realize that this is
going to be one of the first steps to enhance our community.
This is going to be a challenging process but hopefully will lead us to have
a cleaner project too.
What do you think?
Tommaso
Re: Push for a release
Posted by Hasan <ha...@trialox.org>.
Hi Tommaso,
I fully support this idea and also the idea of Bertrand for a small
tutorial.
I think, a concise compilation and installation/operation guide is
necessary as well.
kr
Hasan
On 06/25/2010 07:55 AM, Tommaso Teofili wrote:
> Hi all,
> I would like to push for the first incubating release of Clerezza; talking
> these days at IKS Workshop with some people made me realize that this is
> going to be one of the first steps to enhance our community.
> This is going to be a challenging process but hopefully will lead us to have
> a cleaner project too.
> What do you think?
> Tommaso
>
>
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Re: Push for a release
Posted by Tommaso Teofili <to...@gmail.com>.
Thank you very much Bertrand :)
Tommaso
2010/7/8 Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>
> Hi,
>
> On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Tommaso Teofili
> <to...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > ...From what I see on ohloh.net Clerezza code analysis [1], I think a
> > significant part of the release process will be also verifying the code
> and
> > dependencies' licenses....
>
> FYI mvn depedency:list and some shell stuff can be used to produce a
> neat list of all dependencies, just blogged my "recipe" at
> http://grep.codeconsult.ch/2010/07/08/list-all-your-maven-dependencies/
>
> -Bertrand
>
RE: Push for a release
Posted by Marco Zaugg <ma...@trialox.org>.
Tommaso, that's a good idea. We, Reto, Tsuy and I had a chat
about this three weeks ago. We agreed on the following work packages:
Reto is working on the outstanding issues in regards to a first proper
release.
Tsuy is coordinating the documentation, tutorials, step-by-step guide work
that goes together with the release.
I'm coordinating the build of the Apache Clerezza project website that also
includes coming up with suggestions on the Apache Clerezza logo and
screendesign
of the project website.
We agreed on having a first version of the project website up and running
in October. Whether that already includes the first release version I don't
know. Reto thought it might take another month to finish it. But if you can
help to speed up the process that would be fabulous.
Specifically, I'm interested in getting more documentation and tutorials
on your UIMA integration. Do you already have some sample code and working
examples you can show?
-----Original Message-----
From: Tommaso Teofili [mailto:tommaso.teofili@gmail.com]
Sent: Freitag, 3. September 2010 10:12
To: clerezza-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Push for a release
Hi all,
as I still think releasing is important for Clerezza to start attracting
more users and to be able to provide good documentation I would be happy to
act as a release manager. Unfortunately I won't get enough time to do it
'till the end of this month, so if anyone would like to step up please do
it, otherwise I will do it once this "hot" September has passed :-)
Cheers,
Tommaso
2010/7/8 Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>
> On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 12:56 PM, Reto Bachmann-Gmuer
> <re...@trialox.org> wrote:
> > The huge amount of javascript is jquery and yui. not sure if inclusion
of
> > those is problematic.
>
> According to http://jquery.org/license jquery's license is MIT, which
> according to http://apache.org/legal/resolved.html can be included
> with Apache products.
>
> -Bertrand
>
Re: Push for a release
Posted by Tommaso Teofili <to...@gmail.com>.
Hi Marco,
2010/9/3 Marco Zaugg <ma...@trialox.org>
> Tommaso, that's a good idea. We, Reto, Tsuy and I had a chat
> about this three weeks ago. We agreed on the following work packages:
>
> Reto is working on the outstanding issues in regards to a first proper
> release.
>
> Tsuy is coordinating the documentation, tutorials, step-by-step guide work
> that goes together with the release.
>
> I'm coordinating the build of the Apache Clerezza project website that also
> includes coming up with suggestions on the Apache Clerezza logo and
> screendesign
> of the project website.
>
>
I am happy to hear that, as I said I don't have so much time in the upcoming
month but I will do my best to help out.
> We agreed on having a first version of the project website up and running
> in October. Whether that already includes the first release version I don't
> know. Reto thought it might take another month to finish it. But if you can
> help to speed up the process that would be fabulous.
>
> Specifically, I'm interested in getting more documentation and tutorials
> on your UIMA integration. Do you already have some sample code and working
> examples you can show?
>
I started to do Maven site documentation for it the
UIMABaseMetadataGenerator, essentially you can use it for non-interactive
meta-data extraction which could be exposed by some service in order to add
metadata depending on its media type.
I am also working on a second use case that is automatic concept suggestion
when defining concepts for a specific resource (sample URL:
http://clerezza_host:8080/concepts/generic-resource?uri=http://graphurl/ ).
I'll upload basic doc pages (Maven site) now and then update them with
samples.
Have a nice day,
Tommaso
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tommaso Teofili [mailto:tommaso.teofili@gmail.com]
> Sent: Freitag, 3. September 2010 10:12
> To: clerezza-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Push for a release
>
> Hi all,
> as I still think releasing is important for Clerezza to start attracting
> more users and to be able to provide good documentation I would be happy to
> act as a release manager. Unfortunately I won't get enough time to do it
> 'till the end of this month, so if anyone would like to step up please do
> it, otherwise I will do it once this "hot" September has passed :-)
> Cheers,
> Tommaso
>
> 2010/7/8 Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>
>
> > On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 12:56 PM, Reto Bachmann-Gmuer
> > <re...@trialox.org> wrote:
> > > The huge amount of javascript is jquery and yui. not sure if inclusion
> of
> > > those is problematic.
> >
> > According to http://jquery.org/license jquery's license is MIT, which
> > according to http://apache.org/legal/resolved.html can be included
> > with Apache products.
> >
> > -Bertrand
> >
>
>
Re: Push for a release
Posted by Tommaso Teofili <to...@gmail.com>.
Hi all,
as I still think releasing is important for Clerezza to start attracting
more users and to be able to provide good documentation I would be happy to
act as a release manager. Unfortunately I won't get enough time to do it
'till the end of this month, so if anyone would like to step up please do
it, otherwise I will do it once this "hot" September has passed :-)
Cheers,
Tommaso
2010/7/8 Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>
> On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 12:56 PM, Reto Bachmann-Gmuer
> <re...@trialox.org> wrote:
> > The huge amount of javascript is jquery and yui. not sure if inclusion of
> > those is problematic.
>
> According to http://jquery.org/license jquery's license is MIT, which
> according to http://apache.org/legal/resolved.html can be included
> with Apache products.
>
> -Bertrand
>
Re: Push for a release
Posted by Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>.
On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 12:56 PM, Reto Bachmann-Gmuer
<re...@trialox.org> wrote:
> The huge amount of javascript is jquery and yui. not sure if inclusion of
> those is problematic.
According to http://jquery.org/license jquery's license is MIT, which
according to http://apache.org/legal/resolved.html can be included
with Apache products.
-Bertrand
Re: Push for a release
Posted by Reto Bachmann-Gmuer <re...@trialox.org>.
The huge amount of javascript is jquery and yui. not sure if inclusion of
those is problematic.
cheers,
reto
On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz <bdelacretaz@apache.org
> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Tommaso Teofili
> <to...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > ...From what I see on ohloh.net Clerezza code analysis [1], I think a
> > significant part of the release process will be also verifying the code
> and
> > dependencies' licenses....
>
> FYI mvn depedency:list and some shell stuff can be used to produce a
> neat list of all dependencies, just blogged my "recipe" at
> http://grep.codeconsult.ch/2010/07/08/list-all-your-maven-dependencies/
>
> -Bertrand
>
Re: Push for a release
Posted by Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>.
Hi,
On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Tommaso Teofili
<to...@gmail.com> wrote:
> ...From what I see on ohloh.net Clerezza code analysis [1], I think a
> significant part of the release process will be also verifying the code and
> dependencies' licenses....
FYI mvn depedency:list and some shell stuff can be used to produce a
neat list of all dependencies, just blogged my "recipe" at
http://grep.codeconsult.ch/2010/07/08/list-all-your-maven-dependencies/
-Bertrand
Re: Push for a release
Posted by Tommaso Teofili <to...@gmail.com>.
Hi all,
I agree with Reto regarding the shortening of the artifacts ids, but this is
going to be a huge work and maybe we should set a "code freeze" for a couple
of days while doing this name refactoring or make this work in a branch
(maybe better).
I think we should point out the list of issues to be closed in a couple of
weeks and defer everything else past the release.
This is my short list of must-fix issues:
- CLEREZZA-245 - read/write locks are not set in different projects
- CLEREZZA-215 - Triaxrs: jaxrs resources/providers are not bound after
the first start, because their reference is static
- CLEREZZA-206 - test failures in
org.apache.clerezza.rdf.jena.tdb.storage
>From what I see on ohloh.net Clerezza code analysis [1], I think a
significant part of the release process will be also verifying the code and
dependencies' licenses.
My opinion regarding the writing of a tutorial is that we should work on it
just after we have a release so that people can get Clerezza artifacts from
a repository and/or download a distribution to play with. The release will
also force us to have a clean working build process we can then document on
the tutorials so that people shouldn't find so hard to just do a 'mvn
compile'.
Cheers,
Tommaso
[1] : https://www.ohloh.net/p/clerezza/analyses/latest
2010/6/28 Reto Bachmann-Gmuer <re...@trialox.org>
> Another thing: when releasing I think only code from closed issues should
> be
> in trunk and we currently have a couple of issues which request reviewing
> feedback by being in the state "resolved".
>
> On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 2:43 PM, Reto Bachmann-Gmuer <
> reto.bachmann@trialox.org> wrote:
>
> > What comes to mind is:
> >
> > - pax-exam: for the test to be of value, i.e. not generate false positive
> > (by ignoring overwriting methods) and not failing with local snapshot
> > versions we need pax-exam 1.2.1 - On May 31st Toni Menzel said he was
> goind
> > to do the relase asap
> > - sesame: not in maven central -> we can release the non sesame related
> > modules
> > - triaxrs: there are some cddl files from jersey which need to be removed
> >
> > Obviously there are many features I'd like to see in clerezza soon, but I
> > think we should release early and release often. Also to have a stable
> > reeference against which to write tutorials.
> >
> > It would be nice to have our artifact-ids shortened (removing
> > org.apache.clerezza) but this too can be done later (but stability in the
> > naming is an advantage)
> >
> > Cheers,
> > reto
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Tsuyoshi Ito <tsuy.ito@trialox.org
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Hi tommaso
> >>
> >> Absolutely agree with you.
> >>
> >> Probably Reto could create a list of issues which should be fixed for a
> >> release candidate.
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >> Tsuy
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 7:55 AM, Tommaso Teofili
> >> <to...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hi all,
> >> > I would like to push for the first incubating release of Clerezza;
> >> talking
> >> > these days at IKS Workshop with some people made me realize that this
> is
> >> > going to be one of the first steps to enhance our community.
> >> > This is going to be a challenging process but hopefully will lead us
> to
> >> > have
> >> > a cleaner project too.
> >> > What do you think?
> >> > Tommaso
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
>
Re: Push for a release
Posted by Reto Bachmann-Gmuer <re...@trialox.org>.
Another thing: when releasing I think only code from closed issues should be
in trunk and we currently have a couple of issues which request reviewing
feedback by being in the state "resolved".
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 2:43 PM, Reto Bachmann-Gmuer <
reto.bachmann@trialox.org> wrote:
> What comes to mind is:
>
> - pax-exam: for the test to be of value, i.e. not generate false positive
> (by ignoring overwriting methods) and not failing with local snapshot
> versions we need pax-exam 1.2.1 - On May 31st Toni Menzel said he was goind
> to do the relase asap
> - sesame: not in maven central -> we can release the non sesame related
> modules
> - triaxrs: there are some cddl files from jersey which need to be removed
>
> Obviously there are many features I'd like to see in clerezza soon, but I
> think we should release early and release often. Also to have a stable
> reeference against which to write tutorials.
>
> It would be nice to have our artifact-ids shortened (removing
> org.apache.clerezza) but this too can be done later (but stability in the
> naming is an advantage)
>
> Cheers,
> reto
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Tsuyoshi Ito <ts...@trialox.org>wrote:
>
>> Hi tommaso
>>
>> Absolutely agree with you.
>>
>> Probably Reto could create a list of issues which should be fixed for a
>> release candidate.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Tsuy
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 7:55 AM, Tommaso Teofili
>> <to...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>> > Hi all,
>> > I would like to push for the first incubating release of Clerezza;
>> talking
>> > these days at IKS Workshop with some people made me realize that this is
>> > going to be one of the first steps to enhance our community.
>> > This is going to be a challenging process but hopefully will lead us to
>> > have
>> > a cleaner project too.
>> > What do you think?
>> > Tommaso
>> >
>>
>
>
Re: Push for a release
Posted by Reto Bachmann-Gmuer <re...@trialox.org>.
What comes to mind is:
- pax-exam: for the test to be of value, i.e. not generate false positive
(by ignoring overwriting methods) and not failing with local snapshot
versions we need pax-exam 1.2.1 - On May 31st Toni Menzel said he was goind
to do the relase asap
- sesame: not in maven central -> we can release the non sesame related
modules
- triaxrs: there are some cddl files from jersey which need to be removed
Obviously there are many features I'd like to see in clerezza soon, but I
think we should release early and release often. Also to have a stable
reeference against which to write tutorials.
It would be nice to have our artifact-ids shortened (removing
org.apache.clerezza) but this too can be done later (but stability in the
naming is an advantage)
Cheers,
reto
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Tsuyoshi Ito <ts...@trialox.org> wrote:
> Hi tommaso
>
> Absolutely agree with you.
>
> Probably Reto could create a list of issues which should be fixed for a
> release candidate.
>
> Cheers
> Tsuy
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 7:55 AM, Tommaso Teofili
> <to...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> > I would like to push for the first incubating release of Clerezza;
> talking
> > these days at IKS Workshop with some people made me realize that this is
> > going to be one of the first steps to enhance our community.
> > This is going to be a challenging process but hopefully will lead us to
> > have
> > a cleaner project too.
> > What do you think?
> > Tommaso
> >
>
Re: Push for a release
Posted by Tsuyoshi Ito <ts...@trialox.org>.
Hi tommaso
Absolutely agree with you.
Probably Reto could create a list of issues which should be fixed for a
release candidate.
Cheers
Tsuy
On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 7:55 AM, Tommaso Teofili
<to...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Hi all,
> I would like to push for the first incubating release of Clerezza; talking
> these days at IKS Workshop with some people made me realize that this is
> going to be one of the first steps to enhance our community.
> This is going to be a challenging process but hopefully will lead us to
> have
> a cleaner project too.
> What do you think?
> Tommaso
>
Re: Push for a release
Posted by Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>.
Hi Marco,
On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 8:29 AM, Marco Zaugg <ma...@trialox.org> wrote:
> ...I'm also pointing at the fact that we need a proper project website
> including updated tutorials...
I agree with that, IMO a "discover Clerezza in 15 minutes" tutorial
would be cool to help people find out what Clerezza is about. I cannot
help start that as my knowledge of Clerezza is too limited, but I'd
gladly serve as a guinea pig / reviewer if someone can create that.
Still, making a first release before the website is updated would also
be good from my mentor's point of view, so that the project members
learn about the release process.
> ...Re. logo: Just checked the infos on
> http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs.html
>
> Does one of the PMCs know where I do get the proper Apache feather in EPS
> format...
There's one here: http://people.apache.org/~bdelacretaz/files/asf_logo_1999.eps
> ...In chapter 'Logos and Graphics' it's said there will be much simpler
> version of the feather...
I don't think this has happened yet.
-Bertrand