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Posted to users@cloudstack.apache.org by David Matteson <dm...@a2hosting.com> on 2013/08/26 15:35:49 UTC
Remote force expunge?
Hey everybody,
Quick question; there is no API call for it, but does anybody know of a
way to force an expunge to run remotely? Ideally on a specific vmid.
Thanks!
Re: Remote force expunge?
Posted by Koushik Das <ko...@citrix.com>.
The default values for expunge.delay and expunge.interval is 10mins. Have you tried setting these to lower values? I don't think there is any minimum window, it is configurable.
-Koushik
On 26-Aug-2013, at 7:51 PM, David Matteson <dm...@a2hosting.com> wrote:
> Hi Travis,
>
> Wanting to provide a 10 minute (or longer) recovery time is exactly why I'm looking for some way to force an expunge remotely on demand.
>
> The problem with providing a long recovery time is that a user cannot deploy a new VM with the same hostname (or IP address) until the old one is expunged. Thus the desire to be able to say "No I really don't want to recover the old one, get rid of it so I can make a new one."
>
> It seems like an expungeDestroyedVirtualMachine API call might be in order?
>
> On 8/26/13 10:06 AM, Travis Graham wrote:
>> Hey David,
>>
>> As far as I understand it, there is no way to immediately expunge a deleted VM easily. By design there's a minimum 10 minute window to allow the recovery of a VM once it has been deleted.
>>
>> If you wanted to remove all references from the database and manually remove the associated files on your primary and secondary storage, there's nothing stopping you from doing that, but you'd probably be best to set your expunge.delay and expunge.interval to 600 and let the system do the heavy lifting.
>>
>> Travis
>>
>> On Aug 26, 2013, at 9:35 AM, David Matteson <dm...@a2hosting.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey everybody,
>>>
>>> Quick question; there is no API call for it, but does anybody know of a way to force an expunge to run remotely? Ideally on a specific vmid.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>
Re: Remote force expunge?
Posted by David Matteson <dm...@a2hosting.com>.
Will do :)
On 8/26/13 10:25 AM, Geoff Higginbottom wrote:
> +1 from me, why don't you log a feature request
>
> Regards
>
> Geoff Higginbottom
>
> D: +44 20 3603 0542 | S: +44 20 3603 0540 | M: +447968161581
>
> geoff.higginbottom@shapeblue.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kirk Jantzer [mailto:kirk.jantzer@gmail.com]
> Sent: 26 August 2013 10:24
> To: Cloudstack users mailing list
> Subject: Re: Remote force expunge?
>
> I like that idea :-)
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Kirk Jantzer
> http://about.met/kirkjantzer
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 10:21 AM, David Matteson <dm...@a2hosting.com>wrote:
>
>> Hi Travis,
>>
>> Wanting to provide a 10 minute (or longer) recovery time is exactly
>> why I'm looking for some way to force an expunge remotely on demand.
>>
>> The problem with providing a long recovery time is that a user cannot
>> deploy a new VM with the same hostname (or IP address) until the old
>> one is expunged. Thus the desire to be able to say "No I really don't
>> want to recover the old one, get rid of it so I can make a new one."
>>
>> It seems like an expungeDestroyedVirtualMachine API call might be in order?
>>
>>
>> On 8/26/13 10:06 AM, Travis Graham wrote:
>>
>>> Hey David,
>>>
>>> As far as I understand it, there is no way to immediately expunge a
>>> deleted VM easily. By design there's a minimum 10 minute window to
>>> allow the recovery of a VM once it has been deleted.
>>>
>>> If you wanted to remove all references from the database and manually
>>> remove the associated files on your primary and secondary storage,
>>> there's nothing stopping you from doing that, but you'd probably be
>>> best to set your expunge.delay and expunge.interval to 600 and let
>>> the system do the heavy lifting.
>>>
>>> Travis
>>>
>>> On Aug 26, 2013, at 9:35 AM, David Matteson <dm...@a2hosting.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey everybody,
>>>> Quick question; there is no API call for it, but does anybody know
>>>> of a way to force an expunge to run remotely? Ideally on a specific vmid.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
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RE: Remote force expunge?
Posted by Sanjay Tripathi <sa...@citrix.com>.
Nice idea, +1 for it.
--Sanjay
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Geoff Higginbottom [mailto:geoff.higginbottom@shapeblue.com]
> Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 7:56 PM
> To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: RE: Remote force expunge?
>
> +1 from me, why don't you log a feature request
>
> Regards
>
> Geoff Higginbottom
>
> D: +44 20 3603 0542 | S: +44 20 3603 0540 | M: +447968161581
>
> geoff.higginbottom@shapeblue.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kirk Jantzer [mailto:kirk.jantzer@gmail.com]
> Sent: 26 August 2013 10:24
> To: Cloudstack users mailing list
> Subject: Re: Remote force expunge?
>
> I like that idea :-)
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Kirk Jantzer
> http://about.met/kirkjantzer
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 10:21 AM, David Matteson
> <dm...@a2hosting.com>wrote:
>
> > Hi Travis,
> >
> > Wanting to provide a 10 minute (or longer) recovery time is exactly
> > why I'm looking for some way to force an expunge remotely on demand.
> >
> > The problem with providing a long recovery time is that a user cannot
> > deploy a new VM with the same hostname (or IP address) until the old
> > one is expunged. Thus the desire to be able to say "No I really don't
> > want to recover the old one, get rid of it so I can make a new one."
> >
> > It seems like an expungeDestroyedVirtualMachine API call might be in
> order?
> >
> >
> > On 8/26/13 10:06 AM, Travis Graham wrote:
> >
> >> Hey David,
> >>
> >> As far as I understand it, there is no way to immediately expunge a
> >> deleted VM easily. By design there's a minimum 10 minute window to
> >> allow the recovery of a VM once it has been deleted.
> >>
> >> If you wanted to remove all references from the database and manually
> >> remove the associated files on your primary and secondary storage,
> >> there's nothing stopping you from doing that, but you'd probably be
> >> best to set your expunge.delay and expunge.interval to 600 and let
> >> the system do the heavy lifting.
> >>
> >> Travis
> >>
> >> On Aug 26, 2013, at 9:35 AM, David Matteson
> <dm...@a2hosting.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hey everybody,
> >>>
> >>> Quick question; there is no API call for it, but does anybody know
> >>> of a way to force an expunge to run remotely? Ideally on a specific vmid.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks!
> >>>
> >>
> >
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RE: Remote force expunge?
Posted by Geoff Higginbottom <ge...@shapeblue.com>.
+1 from me, why don't you log a feature request
Regards
Geoff Higginbottom
D: +44 20 3603 0542 | S: +44 20 3603 0540 | M: +447968161581
geoff.higginbottom@shapeblue.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Kirk Jantzer [mailto:kirk.jantzer@gmail.com]
Sent: 26 August 2013 10:24
To: Cloudstack users mailing list
Subject: Re: Remote force expunge?
I like that idea :-)
Regards,
Kirk Jantzer
http://about.met/kirkjantzer
On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 10:21 AM, David Matteson <dm...@a2hosting.com>wrote:
> Hi Travis,
>
> Wanting to provide a 10 minute (or longer) recovery time is exactly
> why I'm looking for some way to force an expunge remotely on demand.
>
> The problem with providing a long recovery time is that a user cannot
> deploy a new VM with the same hostname (or IP address) until the old
> one is expunged. Thus the desire to be able to say "No I really don't
> want to recover the old one, get rid of it so I can make a new one."
>
> It seems like an expungeDestroyedVirtualMachine API call might be in order?
>
>
> On 8/26/13 10:06 AM, Travis Graham wrote:
>
>> Hey David,
>>
>> As far as I understand it, there is no way to immediately expunge a
>> deleted VM easily. By design there's a minimum 10 minute window to
>> allow the recovery of a VM once it has been deleted.
>>
>> If you wanted to remove all references from the database and manually
>> remove the associated files on your primary and secondary storage,
>> there's nothing stopping you from doing that, but you'd probably be
>> best to set your expunge.delay and expunge.interval to 600 and let
>> the system do the heavy lifting.
>>
>> Travis
>>
>> On Aug 26, 2013, at 9:35 AM, David Matteson <dm...@a2hosting.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hey everybody,
>>>
>>> Quick question; there is no API call for it, but does anybody know
>>> of a way to force an expunge to run remotely? Ideally on a specific vmid.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>
>
This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Shape Blue Ltd or related companies. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you must neither take any action based upon its contents, nor copy or show it to anyone. Please contact the sender if you believe you have received this email in error. Shape Blue Ltd is a company incorporated in England & Wales. ShapeBlue Services India LLP is operated under license from Shape Blue Ltd. ShapeBlue is a registered trademark.
Re: Remote force expunge?
Posted by Kirk Jantzer <ki...@gmail.com>.
I like that idea :-)
Regards,
Kirk Jantzer
http://about.met/kirkjantzer
On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 10:21 AM, David Matteson <dm...@a2hosting.com>wrote:
> Hi Travis,
>
> Wanting to provide a 10 minute (or longer) recovery time is exactly why
> I'm looking for some way to force an expunge remotely on demand.
>
> The problem with providing a long recovery time is that a user cannot
> deploy a new VM with the same hostname (or IP address) until the old one is
> expunged. Thus the desire to be able to say "No I really don't want to
> recover the old one, get rid of it so I can make a new one."
>
> It seems like an expungeDestroyedVirtualMachine API call might be in order?
>
>
> On 8/26/13 10:06 AM, Travis Graham wrote:
>
>> Hey David,
>>
>> As far as I understand it, there is no way to immediately expunge a
>> deleted VM easily. By design there's a minimum 10 minute window to allow
>> the recovery of a VM once it has been deleted.
>>
>> If you wanted to remove all references from the database and manually
>> remove the associated files on your primary and secondary storage, there's
>> nothing stopping you from doing that, but you'd probably be best to set
>> your expunge.delay and expunge.interval to 600 and let the system do the
>> heavy lifting.
>>
>> Travis
>>
>> On Aug 26, 2013, at 9:35 AM, David Matteson <dm...@a2hosting.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hey everybody,
>>>
>>> Quick question; there is no API call for it, but does anybody know of a
>>> way to force an expunge to run remotely? Ideally on a specific vmid.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>
>
Re: Remote force expunge?
Posted by David Matteson <dm...@a2hosting.com>.
Hi Travis,
Wanting to provide a 10 minute (or longer) recovery time is exactly why
I'm looking for some way to force an expunge remotely on demand.
The problem with providing a long recovery time is that a user cannot
deploy a new VM with the same hostname (or IP address) until the old one
is expunged. Thus the desire to be able to say "No I really don't want
to recover the old one, get rid of it so I can make a new one."
It seems like an expungeDestroyedVirtualMachine API call might be in order?
On 8/26/13 10:06 AM, Travis Graham wrote:
> Hey David,
>
> As far as I understand it, there is no way to immediately expunge a deleted VM easily. By design there's a minimum 10 minute window to allow the recovery of a VM once it has been deleted.
>
> If you wanted to remove all references from the database and manually remove the associated files on your primary and secondary storage, there's nothing stopping you from doing that, but you'd probably be best to set your expunge.delay and expunge.interval to 600 and let the system do the heavy lifting.
>
> Travis
>
> On Aug 26, 2013, at 9:35 AM, David Matteson <dm...@a2hosting.com> wrote:
>
>> Hey everybody,
>>
>> Quick question; there is no API call for it, but does anybody know of a way to force an expunge to run remotely? Ideally on a specific vmid.
>>
>> Thanks!
Re: Remote force expunge?
Posted by Travis Graham <t...@tgraham.us>.
Hey David,
As far as I understand it, there is no way to immediately expunge a deleted VM easily. By design there's a minimum 10 minute window to allow the recovery of a VM once it has been deleted.
If you wanted to remove all references from the database and manually remove the associated files on your primary and secondary storage, there's nothing stopping you from doing that, but you'd probably be best to set your expunge.delay and expunge.interval to 600 and let the system do the heavy lifting.
Travis
On Aug 26, 2013, at 9:35 AM, David Matteson <dm...@a2hosting.com> wrote:
> Hey everybody,
>
> Quick question; there is no API call for it, but does anybody know of a way to force an expunge to run remotely? Ideally on a specific vmid.
>
> Thanks!